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{\an8}For a man buried at
the North Platte cemetery
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his story is lost along
with his identity.
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This all started as one
of my first big stories
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as a News Reporter.
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{\an8}He was found decades ago on
a train cart and buried
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{\an8}with a grave marker that
reads Unknown Negro.
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The moment I saw those words,
it struck me to my core.
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I knew this was more than
just another news story.
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{\an8}Date of death Oct 4th 1961.
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{\an8}Name of deceased
Unidentified Transient.
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Birthplace Unknown.
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Usual residence unknown.
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Unknown.
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This man's life has amounted
to this death certificate
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that doesn't tell
us anything.
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{\an8}Everything is a mystery.
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{\an8}We don't know his name, we
don't know where he's from.
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We just know he was
found dead on a train
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and that he was black.
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But I don't care how hard
it might be to solve this.
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For all these years, he's been
known as the unknown Negro
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and that's not right.
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I want to know who he really
is, that's what I wanna know.
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{\an8}Someone told me about the
grave marker just a few
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{\an8}months into my first
reporting job.
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My family has big ties to
the civil rights movement,
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so I've heard stories of black
people having their rights
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and identity stripped
away from them,
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and then here is this guy
who has lost his identity
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for decades.
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Marresa has spent
more than two years searching
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archives and databases
for some kind of lead
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on the Doe's identity.
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All I've gathered is
that he might have been around
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60 years old, and that he was
found on a coast-to-coast
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freight train when it
stopped in North Platte.
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My first thought was to
follow the tracks
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that might tell me
where he's from.
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But the death certificate
says he was a transient.
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So if he was riding the
rails as a way of life,
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the train tracks aren't
gonna tell me anything.
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Having drawn a
blank with her research,
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Marresa's now taking a much
more ambitious approach.
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She's persuaded local law
enforcement that the case
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is important enough, to try
and exhume the man's remains
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from his grave.
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Sergeant Larry Meyer from the
Sheriff's Office is in charge
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of the operation.
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Best case scenario
is to get him identified
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{\an8}and get this gentleman the
grave marker that he deserves.
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I'm feeling anxious,
hopeful, and doubtful,
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all at the same time.
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Identifying human
remains is highly specialized
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work, so Marresa and Sgt Meyer
have engaged an organization
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that takes on the
very toughest cases.
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This grave
marker, I can't believe it,
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that's all it says.
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{\an8}You know, it just can't stand,
I feel like we really have
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{\an8}to try and see if we
can solve this one.
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{\an8}The DNA Doe Project
uses the revolution in genetic
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information online to
give unidentified John
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and Jane Does back
their names.
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But it totally
relies on being able to get
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a good DNA sample.
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Thanks for making some
time for me today.
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Can you give me an honest
assessment of you know
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what you think our chances
are with the science?
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{\an8}I mean re-
realistically Jen I'm,
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{\an8}I'm not optimistic.
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He's been in the
ground 60 plus years.
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There are a lot of conditions
that make DNA preservation
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poor, and this grave kind
of hits all of them.
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Water is a real problem.
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It's located on the edge of
a golf course which means
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there's likely
sprinkler systems.
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Gonna be real careful,
cos it's starting to feel.
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He's dug enough graves,
you can kind of tell
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by the seat of your pants
what you're feeling.
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Freeze-thaws are
bad for uh DNA preservation
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and in Nebraska you have hot
summers and cold, long winters.
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Looks like there's
some material right there.
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It really
depends on how he was buried
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and if he's in the
soil versus a coffin.
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There's some
cloth or something there.
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The skeletal
remains could be
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totally disintegrated. Just
dirt stains essentially.
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But we can't know
until we try.
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Is there a bone? Is
that a bone right there?
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Is it a bone?
Oh that's a Jesus.
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On the top.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
Okay.
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I can't put into
words my emotions right now.
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Piece of the casket.
Yeah.
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We just
gotta keep waiting.
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Huh!
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There it is.
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Yeah. We've
got bones. Long bone!
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Oh!
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Gonna be getting up to
the skull here pretty quick.
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Huh!
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To see his remains,
to see his skull.
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It's like, that's him,
that's the Unknown Negro.
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I'm closer to him
than I was before.
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It gives me hope,
it really does.
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Hello?
Hello, everyone.
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We're dying to
hear how things went today.
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I'm very
excited to show you
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Oh wow. You guys.
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That's near a complete
skeleton. Almo.
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Yes, it is. We
were very, very happy.
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Way to go Nebraska
soil, um for the last 60 years!
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This is fabulous.
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Does the skull
have any teeth in it?
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Looks like
three teeth in this one.
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Yes.
And then loose.
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I would prefer
the mandibular molars there
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that are in situ because the
root is at least protected
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a little bit by the bone and
we sample just the root.
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All right.
Look forward to working
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with you all.
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The death
certificate told us
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that there was no
autopsy performed.
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Correct.
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My heart is just heavier
and heavier with like,
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what happened?
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We have a broken rib
on the right side.
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Right side.
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And then a
broken wrist on the left
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On the left side.
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Is there anything here
that can tell us how he died?
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There's
really no way to tell.
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Right.
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Seeing the injuries
to the Doe's skeleton,
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Sergeant Meyer searches for
anything that might confirm
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how he died.
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Well this just
came to light this morning.
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A News Article, printed
on November 3rd,
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so that would have been
two days following um
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him being buried here.
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So I just thought I'd
let you read that.
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Dead Man
Still Not Identified.
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A Negro man found crushed in
a railroad refrigerator Ice
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Cart was found here Tuesday
morning by railroad workers
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cleaning out the cars.
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Crushed in an ice car?
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If this gentleman is
accustomed to riding trains,
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one would think he would
have known that was a
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very dangerous place to be.
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I have a hard time believing
that he would intentionally
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have put himself
in that situation.
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Crushed in a
refrigerator ice cart.
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That's so sad.
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The big question is why
was he on that cart?
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That's the burning
question for me.
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Maressa's tracked
down something she hopes
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will help, an Ice Car from
the time of the Doe's death.
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Hey there.
How we doing?
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Yeah.
Are you Henry?
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I am Henry.
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{\an8}This is the ice reefer
you were interested in.
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{\an8}I have
so many questions.
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{\an8}I hope you can answer them.
Well, we'll try.
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This class of car
was built in 1957.
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Okay. That was
about four years before
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this gentleman was found.
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Yeah.
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Mechanized monsters of the
rails haul trainloads
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of crisp, cool vegetables
in a chain
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of railway transportation
spanning the United States.
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Ice cars were used
to keep the produce grown
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on the West Coast fresh,
on the multi day journey
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to the cities of the East.
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Was there ever a lock
on it or anything like that?
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Oh, they would put a
lock on it so people didn't
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get in and help themselves
to a box of cucumbers.
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The produce was
cooled by blocks of ice,
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dropped through hatches
into bunker compartments,
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at regular icing stations
along the route.
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Is there a way of us
looking at where they were
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loading those big
chunks of ice to?
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Sure, we'll
have to go up on top.
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Thousands of tons of ice are
tumbled into reefer cars
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and both car and its contents
are cooled in one operation.
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The Doe's body was
found in one of these bunkers,
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crushed by ice.
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This just doesn't
seem like a way somebody
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would wanna travel.
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I mean it's cold, it's
dark. Not a lot of space.
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It's just almost inhumane.
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So why was he in there? Did
he fall in by accident?
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Was he pushed in?
Was he hiding?
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Well we'll
never know, you know.
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I think what's
getting me the most is,
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I don't think he
wanted to be in there.
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Jennifer has
assembled a team of volunteer
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genealogists for an intensive
weekend's work to kick off
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the case.
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Alright, so we
have the results coming in
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the database for a brand new
case, and we're gonna call
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this one Ice Car John Doe.
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In preparation,
Kelly's lab team has taken
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the root from one of the
Doe's teeth and successfully
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extracted his DNA.
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This has been uploaded to
databases containing DNA
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profiles of millions of
people who are tracing
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their family histories.
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Any genetic relatives
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will be returned to
the team as matches.
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Let's see what
we've got to work with.
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There are
thousands of matches,
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but even the closest only
share enough DNA to be
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distant cousins of the doe.
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All right. Guys,
I know this one is not
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a slam dunk like some
cases are, but, you know,
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let's see what we can do.
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If the team
can trace back ancestors
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from matches from
different families,
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and find a relative
that connects them,
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this can lead them
to the Doe.
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{\an8}We use public records,
obituaries, newspapers,
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and all of that helps us
fill in more and more pieces
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and see how they're
connected together.
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But going back
through the generations
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poses a problem.
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With African
American genealogy,
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once we are pre-emancipation,
enslaved people are not known
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by their name.
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So here I have
an 1860 US federal census
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and it's a slave schedule.
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{\an8}And the only information
provided on the schedule
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is the age of the person,
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the race of the
person and their sex.
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No name, no other
information.
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The primary information we
need when building a tree
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is a name, and when you
don't even have a name,
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it makes it really
impossible to build
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a family tree confidently.
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What reason would
want to make somebody ride
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in an ice bunker?
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What was going
on historically?
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{\an8}Marresa's family ties
to the Civil Rights Movement
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date back to the
time the Doe died.
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There he is.
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To me he is my great Uncle
Papa, um, but to the world,
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Mukasa Papa Ricks.
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Black Power! Black Power!
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Growing up I always enjoyed
my uncle coming into town
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and hearing the stories of
Martin Luther King Junior
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being there, and them planning
the civil rights movement.
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One form of
discrimination the movement
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focused on was long
distance travel.
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♪ I'm taking a ride on
the greyhound bus line. ♪
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♪ I'm riding the front
seat to Jacksville. ♪
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{\an8}1961 was a hard time
for African American people
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{\an8}to travel.
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And public transportation, like
a bus, or even hitchhiking,
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cos you just didn't know.
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You just didn't know what
you were gonna encounter.
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When activists
protested at the segregation
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imposed on many
interstate bus routes,
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they were soon
met with violence.
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When the bus finally
pulled out of the terminal,
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the mob went to work on the
bus sides, windows and tires.
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Finally, one of them cut
out a rear side window
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and threw a bomb through it.
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The train might have
been this doe's safest way
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as a Black man to get
across the country.
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The death certificate
calls him a transient,
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but maybe he was just
someone traveling.
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Had a, somewhere to
be, some place in mind.
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Maybe he wasn't experienced
at riding the rails
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and he thought the ice bunker
was a safe place to hide.
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But that just makes
me just wonder,
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where did he start to
where did he want to go?
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{\an8}The train carried
produce from California
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to the East Coast and then
returned empty back through
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North Platte, where the
Doe's body was found.
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{\an8}Maybe the
tracks do mean something.
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{\an8}Could the icing
stops along the route provide
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{\an8}the team with a geographical
lead to help find his family?
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Alright, so
welcome back everybody.
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I think before we dig back in
let's go over where we're at.
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We know names can
be problematic,
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so with this African American
genealogy we should also
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be thinking about place.
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Is there any common geography
in the family history
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because that might be the
path that we need to look
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down to find our DOE.
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The team looks
for shared place names
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that could indicate a possible
connection between matches.
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I think this family
is being researched offline.
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00:18:33,946 --> 00:18:36,156
That sounds
promising.
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Someone on the Doe's
father's side has been
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uploading some
family records.
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She has a blog.
A family history blog.
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00:18:44,415 --> 00:18:45,373
Can you send
me the link?
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00:18:45,374 --> 00:18:46,666
Sure.
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Looks like she's
done a lot of digging
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00:18:48,502 --> 00:18:50,630
in local resources.
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{\an8}Right, we have some
original documents here,
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00:18:53,090 --> 00:18:56,260
including some information
on possible enslavers.
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00:18:57,094 --> 00:18:57,928
This is
a gold mine.
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We actually have the bill
of sale for the ancestor
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where he was sold from one
enslaver to another in 1833.
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00:19:09,357 --> 00:19:11,024
Wow.
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00:19:11,025 --> 00:19:13,485
This document from
Louisiana gives way more
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00:19:13,486 --> 00:19:16,321
detail than the team
has found elsewhere.
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00:19:16,322 --> 00:19:19,032
You can see the
enslavers here and that's
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who he was sold to.
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00:19:20,451 --> 00:19:22,410
Isaac
Griffith. Okay.
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Just the language
of it is absolutely formulaic
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to what you would, if you
sold an acre of land.
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Yeah.
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00:19:30,044 --> 00:19:33,713
So Christine, where was
that Bill of Sale specifically?
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In 1833, sold
into St Landry Parish.
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00:19:39,512 --> 00:19:40,763
Wow that's
a great find.
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00:19:42,973 --> 00:19:44,600
The St Landry
Parish archives show
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{\an8}that there were over 11,000
people enslaved in this hub
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for Louisiana
cotton production.
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00:19:51,982 --> 00:19:54,401
Many of these enslaved
families may have remained
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after emancipation, so did the
ancestors of other matches
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00:19:58,698 --> 00:20:01,992
have records pointing
to this same area?
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00:20:03,244 --> 00:20:05,745
Alright guys if I can
just interrupt you for a second.
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00:20:05,746 --> 00:20:08,581
Other locations of interest?
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00:20:08,582 --> 00:20:10,875
We've got people
living in New Iberia.
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Iberia parish.
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And this is about 30
miles south of St Landry parish.
329
00:20:16,841 --> 00:20:18,800
Anything else?
St Landry parish.
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Alexandria.
Baton Rouge.
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00:20:21,762 --> 00:20:23,888
Everything points
to St Landry parish.
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That's sort
of the epicenter.
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00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,519
Alight. Actually
feeling pretty confident.
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00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:35,233
Now we have place, St
Landry Parish, Louisiana.
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00:20:35,234 --> 00:20:37,694
Relatives of multiple
matches from the Doe's father's
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00:20:37,695 --> 00:20:40,780
side have all lived in this
one small area of southwest
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00:20:40,781 --> 00:20:45,410
Louisiana, strongly suggesting
this is where his father's
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family originated.
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00:20:49,874 --> 00:20:52,292
So we have
Louisiana as this hub where
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a lot of these families came
from and were at at the time
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00:20:55,129 --> 00:20:59,466
of emancipation, and then
later in the 1960s we have
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00:20:59,467 --> 00:21:03,303
our Doe on this train
in North Platte.
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00:21:03,304 --> 00:21:08,267
So how did that happen, can we
find a pattern to explain that?
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00:21:17,401 --> 00:21:19,068
Maressa's trying
to figure out where the Doe
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00:21:19,069 --> 00:21:23,448
may have got on the train as it
made its stops for fresh ice.
346
00:21:23,449 --> 00:21:26,159
She's discovered there's
someone in town who worked
347
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,329
at the North Platte railyard
in the 60s, cleaning out
348
00:21:29,330 --> 00:21:33,416
the Ice Cars on their return
trip from the East coast.
349
00:21:33,417 --> 00:21:36,336
There's somebody
alive that was there
350
00:21:36,337 --> 00:21:38,171
during that time period!
351
00:21:38,172 --> 00:21:40,840
Like, I just, I'm really
shocked and I really want
352
00:21:40,841 --> 00:21:42,593
to talk to them.
353
00:21:43,636 --> 00:21:45,345
A local railway
enthusiast has offered
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00:21:45,346 --> 00:21:47,722
to introduce Marresa.
355
00:21:47,723 --> 00:21:50,183
His name is Leonard?
Leonard. Yeah.
356
00:21:50,184 --> 00:21:52,686
Okay. I'm
excited to meet Leonard.
357
00:21:56,106 --> 00:21:58,316
How long did you work
for the railroad?
358
00:21:58,317 --> 00:22:01,945
I started on
November the ninth, 1951.
359
00:22:01,946 --> 00:22:05,865
Retired July the 30th, 1990.
360
00:22:05,866 --> 00:22:08,535
Wow.
39 plus years.
361
00:22:08,536 --> 00:22:11,329
When you were working
did you ever see any African
362
00:22:11,330 --> 00:22:13,373
American's riding the rails?
363
00:22:13,374 --> 00:22:15,124
{\an8}Yeah I seen a
lot of people traveling,
364
00:22:15,125 --> 00:22:18,878
{\an8}going both ways. I was on
this one trailer one time,
365
00:22:18,879 --> 00:22:22,966
and I had to write down the
temperature and was writing it
366
00:22:22,967 --> 00:22:26,554
down and somebody says,
what town is this?
367
00:22:29,723 --> 00:22:33,393
Here was three black men
underneath that trailer
368
00:22:33,394 --> 00:22:35,228
next to where the
wheels are at.
369
00:22:35,229 --> 00:22:38,314
Did they tell you
where they were trying to go?
370
00:22:38,315 --> 00:22:40,233
Yeah, they
wanted to go to Chicago.
371
00:22:40,234 --> 00:22:42,485
They come from up there
California somewhere.
372
00:22:42,486 --> 00:22:43,653
Chicago.
373
00:22:43,654 --> 00:22:45,406
And they probably
didn't want be identified.
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00:22:45,531 --> 00:22:47,073
They just wanted to know
how to get to Chicago.
375
00:22:47,074 --> 00:22:49,826
Would you have ever
saw somebody trying to be
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00:22:49,827 --> 00:22:52,078
in the ice bunker?
377
00:22:52,079 --> 00:22:54,414
Well, not until I came
across the body at the bottom
378
00:22:54,415 --> 00:23:00,920
of a tank, uh an ice tank,
under about 5000 lbs of ice.
379
00:23:00,921 --> 00:23:03,172
Oh wait a minute,
you were the guy that found
380
00:23:03,173 --> 00:23:05,133
the body in the ice bunker?
381
00:23:05,134 --> 00:23:07,302
Yeah, after I cleaned
the ice out, that's when they,
382
00:23:07,303 --> 00:23:10,722
when I found him,
when I see him.
383
00:23:10,723 --> 00:23:12,725
Wow.
So.
384
00:23:14,977 --> 00:23:17,229
I'm, I'm just
blown away right now.
385
00:23:20,149 --> 00:23:22,942
Um, can you describe how
much of the body you saw?
386
00:23:22,943 --> 00:23:25,445
What did you see
when you looked down?
387
00:23:25,446 --> 00:23:30,909
Well, seen,
probably from here down.
388
00:23:30,910 --> 00:23:32,118
That's all I could see.
389
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,996
You, you couldn't
remember size, skin color,
390
00:23:34,997 --> 00:23:38,124
nothing.
No.
391
00:23:38,125 --> 00:23:41,210
Whether he was already
dead or the ice killed him
392
00:23:41,211 --> 00:23:43,922
and how long he'd been
there, I don't know.
393
00:23:43,923 --> 00:23:46,424
Because he had to be in there
before they put the ice in
394
00:23:46,425 --> 00:23:48,468
while it was empty.
395
00:23:48,469 --> 00:23:51,972
Because he was in there after
I got the ice off of him.
396
00:23:56,727 --> 00:23:58,437
When I
started all this,
397
00:23:58,562 --> 00:24:02,274
I never thought I would meet
the person who discovered
398
00:24:02,399 --> 00:24:05,527
{\an8}his body. That's crazy.
399
00:24:06,904 --> 00:24:09,489
And what Leonard said about
finding him underneath
400
00:24:09,490 --> 00:24:12,992
all the ice, that's huge.
401
00:24:12,993 --> 00:24:15,578
He must have been in
there before the train
402
00:24:15,579 --> 00:24:17,623
was first iced.
403
00:24:21,085 --> 00:24:23,086
{\an8}This means that the
Doe must have already been
404
00:24:23,087 --> 00:24:25,965
{\an8}in the bunker at the start
of the train's journey,
405
00:24:26,632 --> 00:24:28,926
{\an8}which was in Roseville
California.
406
00:24:34,932 --> 00:24:36,683
Marresa is searching
the archives
407
00:24:36,684 --> 00:24:38,268
of the local Roseville press.
408
00:24:43,691 --> 00:24:48,028
Fatal Icing done
here. So it was Roseville.
409
00:24:48,946 --> 00:24:51,991
It came out a week after
this guy was found.
410
00:24:52,324 --> 00:24:57,204
It says, the reefer was iced in
Roseville, and sent to Dinuba.
411
00:24:57,788 --> 00:25:01,165
So it wasn't
delivering produce.
412
00:25:01,166 --> 00:25:04,043
It had to first pick
up its produce,
413
00:25:04,044 --> 00:25:06,547
and that was in Dinuba.
414
00:25:07,006 --> 00:25:08,799
So where's Dinuba?
415
00:25:11,593 --> 00:25:15,638
{\an8}The train was going
down California,
416
00:25:15,639 --> 00:25:20,227
{\an8}south through Fresno, it
wasn't going East right away.
417
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,523
At first I thought he could
be traveling anywhere
418
00:25:25,524 --> 00:25:29,902
from coast to coast, and now
to know he got on in Roseville
419
00:25:29,903 --> 00:25:32,196
California on a train
that was heading
420
00:25:32,197 --> 00:25:34,240
somewhere else in California.
421
00:25:34,241 --> 00:25:39,329
California may be the key.
Maybe there's family there.
422
00:25:44,334 --> 00:25:46,754
The DNA Doe Project
is continuing research
423
00:25:47,087 --> 00:25:49,465
into places that could
connect the Doe's ancestors.
424
00:25:51,008 --> 00:25:53,634
But the strongest lead they
have puts the father's side
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00:25:53,635 --> 00:25:55,845
of the family nearly two
thousand miles
426
00:25:55,846 --> 00:25:58,807
from northern California,
in Louisiana.
427
00:25:59,516 --> 00:26:02,268
{\an8}We have to research to
see if we can find a migration
428
00:26:02,269 --> 00:26:06,190
{\an8}pattern that links us from St
Landry Parish to California.
429
00:26:09,151 --> 00:26:10,735
They painstakingly
work their way through
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00:26:10,736 --> 00:26:13,571
any record they can find
for every descendant
431
00:26:13,572 --> 00:26:17,241
of those Louisiana families.
432
00:26:17,242 --> 00:26:19,994
We work on this
case night and day.
433
00:26:19,995 --> 00:26:22,789
I'm on the computer at 11pm,
so the kids have already gone
434
00:26:22,790 --> 00:26:25,875
to bed and everyone's
sending messages,
435
00:26:25,876 --> 00:26:26,959
like hey check this out,
436
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,295
look at this new
information we have.
437
00:26:29,296 --> 00:26:33,800
Born in Louisiana.
Houston.
438
00:26:33,801 --> 00:26:35,301
Texas!
439
00:26:35,302 --> 00:26:37,970
Yeah they moved, but
they moved to the wrong place.
440
00:26:37,971 --> 00:26:41,933
I'm not looking for Texas,
I'm lookin' for California!
441
00:26:41,934 --> 00:26:44,811
It's hard sometimes,
but we are very dedicated
442
00:26:44,812 --> 00:26:47,856
to solving this case for him.
443
00:26:49,900 --> 00:26:57,406
Born 1995,
mother's maiden name and.
444
00:26:57,407 --> 00:26:59,951
Oh, she's in
California!
445
00:26:59,952 --> 00:27:02,161
Born in San Diego!
446
00:27:02,162 --> 00:27:04,497
So, you know we've got this
family now that were
447
00:27:04,498 --> 00:27:11,629
in Louisiana, and then Texas,
and ultimately in California.
448
00:27:11,630 --> 00:27:13,631
This family
is on the father's side,
449
00:27:13,632 --> 00:27:18,136
and on its own can't
lead them to the Doe.
450
00:27:18,137 --> 00:27:20,847
But then they discover there's
a match living in California
451
00:27:20,848 --> 00:27:24,851
on the Doe's mother's side too,
which offers the possibility
452
00:27:24,852 --> 00:27:27,145
{\an8}of connecting the
two family trees.
453
00:27:29,189 --> 00:27:32,692
{\an8}The Doe, of
course, had two parents,
454
00:27:32,693 --> 00:27:35,778
and if we can build out
the trees for the matches
455
00:27:35,779 --> 00:27:37,948
on each side of his family
far enough, we have a chance
456
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,994
{\an8}of working out who
these two parents were.
457
00:27:51,503 --> 00:27:53,588
Jennifer's come to
the very part of California
458
00:27:53,589 --> 00:27:55,965
the Doe's train was
heading towards, to see
459
00:27:55,966 --> 00:27:59,553
if she can bring the final
pieces of the puzzle together.
460
00:28:00,804 --> 00:28:03,556
It turns out that
this mother's side DNA
461
00:28:03,557 --> 00:28:07,560
relative actually lives in
the same area that the family
462
00:28:07,561 --> 00:28:10,563
on the paternal side
of our doe lives.
463
00:28:10,564 --> 00:28:14,525
You know you can't make this up
right, just a total surprise.
464
00:28:14,526 --> 00:28:17,570
These two sides of the Doe's
family don't actually know
465
00:28:17,571 --> 00:28:21,073
each other but there's
really an opportunity here
466
00:28:21,074 --> 00:28:23,910
to get them together.
467
00:28:23,911 --> 00:28:25,912
Jennifer's hoping
that these two sides can
468
00:28:25,913 --> 00:28:28,039
figure out when and where
a relative from each
469
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,667
of their families
might have met.
470
00:28:31,668 --> 00:28:33,711
We've never done
anything like this before,
471
00:28:33,712 --> 00:28:36,589
but um when we have a tough
case we really have to,
472
00:28:36,590 --> 00:28:39,843
you know try things that are
a little bit out of the box.
473
00:28:48,977 --> 00:28:53,440
Hi, come in,
come in. Look at you.
474
00:28:55,651 --> 00:28:56,776
I'm Angela.
475
00:28:56,777 --> 00:28:58,194
I'm Christopher,
nice to meet you.
476
00:28:58,195 --> 00:29:01,447
Nice to meet you
Christopher. Come on in.
477
00:29:01,448 --> 00:29:02,949
Oh my gosh!
478
00:29:02,950 --> 00:29:04,742
This is the
moment when we meet family,
479
00:29:04,743 --> 00:29:07,954
but it's also because we
wanna find the unknown Negro.
480
00:29:07,955 --> 00:29:09,080
Yeah.
Yeah.
481
00:29:09,081 --> 00:29:10,915
You know what, that's a
great point cos he has
482
00:29:10,916 --> 00:29:12,291
brought us together.
483
00:29:12,292 --> 00:29:13,960
Isn't that something?
484
00:29:13,961 --> 00:29:15,461
It's amazing.
485
00:29:15,462 --> 00:29:17,797
What a blessing.
486
00:29:17,798 --> 00:29:20,132
Just so everyone
knows how we all fit together
487
00:29:20,133 --> 00:29:23,428
here, we have Angela and
Dora, whose families tie back
488
00:29:23,595 --> 00:29:26,556
{\an8}to St Landry parish and we
know that you're related
489
00:29:26,723 --> 00:29:29,935
{\an8}to our doe on the
father's side.
490
00:29:30,185 --> 00:29:32,687
{\an8}And then we have
Chris and Lerelene,
491
00:29:32,688 --> 00:29:35,190
{\an8}and you're related to our
doe on the mother's side,
492
00:29:35,482 --> 00:29:38,067
{\an8}and the Mom's side has
deep roots in Alabama.
493
00:29:38,068 --> 00:29:40,945
{\an8}So the doe's mother and the
doe's father had to meet
494
00:29:40,946 --> 00:29:44,866
at some point in time and
that might give us a clue.
495
00:29:45,742 --> 00:29:47,159
Where do
y'all originate from?
496
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:48,953
Where do you. Your,
your, your roots?
497
00:29:48,954 --> 00:29:49,912
We was in Beaumont, Texas.
498
00:29:49,913 --> 00:29:51,497
Beaumont Texas
What years
499
00:29:51,498 --> 00:29:54,500
are we talking about, that
the family was in Texas?
500
00:29:54,501 --> 00:29:57,420
I was born in '47.
Okay.
501
00:29:57,421 --> 00:30:00,756
And my mother moved to
California, when I was 16.
502
00:30:00,757 --> 00:30:02,009
Against my will!
503
00:30:05,262 --> 00:30:07,471
Against her will.
I was born in Texas.
504
00:30:07,472 --> 00:30:10,850
If he died in '61 and mom
and them were migrating
505
00:30:10,851 --> 00:30:12,351
to California.
506
00:30:12,352 --> 00:30:14,020
Right. The
intersection of the parents
507
00:30:14,021 --> 00:30:17,440
had to happen before that.
508
00:30:17,441 --> 00:30:19,608
I think we're all starting
to really think that Texas
509
00:30:19,609 --> 00:30:21,110
might have been the place.
510
00:30:21,111 --> 00:30:23,863
Grandma Mira lived
on a farm and if we can
511
00:30:23,864 --> 00:30:26,323
find out where
that farm was.
512
00:30:26,324 --> 00:30:28,117
I think she told
me Kemp or Kent, something
513
00:30:28,118 --> 00:30:30,286
Kemp, okay that's
where the farm was, right?
514
00:30:30,287 --> 00:30:33,080
And that's
near Dallas.
515
00:30:33,081 --> 00:30:37,918
Okay so that's back over
here, and then your family
516
00:30:37,919 --> 00:30:39,879
we find here in Beaumont.
517
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,049
Which is 250 miles.
518
00:30:43,050 --> 00:30:44,801
So it's not super close.
519
00:30:46,428 --> 00:30:49,680
Do you know any more about
sort of more extended family,
520
00:30:49,681 --> 00:30:52,100
and places they might
have been in Texas?
521
00:30:53,268 --> 00:30:56,270
Maybe you all have other
cousins and you all have
522
00:30:56,271 --> 00:30:59,483
other cousins who crossed
over somewhere.
523
00:31:02,611 --> 00:31:03,861
We're
missing a family.
524
00:31:03,862 --> 00:31:07,198
I have a feeling there's a
whole family that we don't
525
00:31:07,199 --> 00:31:09,326
know that we're connected to.
526
00:31:09,993 --> 00:31:11,453
I just
gotta find out.
527
00:31:12,287 --> 00:31:14,914
I feel like he's like
telling us to find out.
528
00:31:14,915 --> 00:31:17,500
I know, he's
dropping breadcrumbs, right.
529
00:31:17,501 --> 00:31:19,710
The thing is to
get as many eyes on it
530
00:31:19,711 --> 00:31:22,963
as possible. Just any, any
little bit, a grain of salt
531
00:31:22,964 --> 00:31:24,299
could change everything.
532
00:31:33,433 --> 00:31:36,144
Getting a message
out to that missing family is
533
00:31:36,353 --> 00:31:38,730
the best hope for leading the
team to the Doe's identity.
534
00:31:40,816 --> 00:31:44,110
We are so fortunate
with this case to be working
535
00:31:44,111 --> 00:31:48,990
with a journalist, Marresa and
she can reach a lot of people.
536
00:31:53,245 --> 00:31:54,621
A couple of
things I'm good at,
537
00:31:54,871 --> 00:31:57,707
is reaching people and
connecting with audiences
538
00:31:57,958 --> 00:32:01,502
so I think it's time for me
to do another news story
539
00:32:01,503 --> 00:32:03,129
and get the word out.
540
00:32:03,130 --> 00:32:04,506
Jen!
541
00:32:04,798 --> 00:32:06,298
Hey. It's so good
to meet you in person!
542
00:32:06,299 --> 00:32:08,051
I know, it's
so good to see you!
543
00:32:08,176 --> 00:32:09,301
Started
out in Nebraska,
544
00:32:09,302 --> 00:32:10,427
and here we are in
California.
545
00:32:10,428 --> 00:32:11,513
I know!
546
00:32:13,890 --> 00:32:17,643
We've tried to use
media outreach with other cases
547
00:32:17,644 --> 00:32:20,939
when they're kind of stalled,
but nothing like this scale.
548
00:32:21,231 --> 00:32:23,274
You know, we can hope it
could lead to something
549
00:32:23,275 --> 00:32:24,233
really important.
550
00:32:24,234 --> 00:32:26,111
My mum always say
nothing beats a failure
551
00:32:26,236 --> 00:32:27,654
than a try.
552
00:32:28,488 --> 00:32:31,657
Marresa wants to
film her report at a location
553
00:32:31,658 --> 00:32:33,785
she can connect with
certainty to the Doe's life,
554
00:32:34,411 --> 00:32:36,913
and that can only
mean one place.
555
00:32:46,548 --> 00:32:50,302
When I think
about the Unknown Negro,
556
00:32:53,096 --> 00:32:58,642
I see this guy in Roseville.
Was he working?
557
00:32:58,643 --> 00:33:01,438
Was he just hanging out?
I don't know.
558
00:33:01,938 --> 00:33:06,276
He hopped on that train
probably to head home.
559
00:33:10,363 --> 00:33:12,741
But then his train was iced.
560
00:33:16,578 --> 00:33:20,039
It's heartbreaking to think
about his body traveled
561
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,960
thousands of miles and
across the country
562
00:33:24,461 --> 00:33:28,005
before being discovered, and
all he could have been trying
563
00:33:28,006 --> 00:33:32,469
to do was go a couple of towns
over to see some family.
564
00:33:36,890 --> 00:33:39,351
Hello, everyone!
565
00:33:39,935 --> 00:33:42,062
The Doe's Californian
relatives have brought
566
00:33:42,187 --> 00:33:45,857
together more relations to
take part in Maressa's report.
567
00:33:46,983 --> 00:33:48,610
We go back
to 9 o'clock.
568
00:33:49,444 --> 00:33:51,403
I'm Chris, I'm
from the mother's side.
569
00:33:51,404 --> 00:33:52,948
Hi.
Hi.
570
00:33:53,156 --> 00:33:58,577
Hi! Oh my goodness.
It's so nice to see everybody.
571
00:33:58,578 --> 00:34:00,413
Hello.
572
00:34:00,538 --> 00:34:02,456
I would have
never thought years ago
573
00:34:02,457 --> 00:34:04,875
when I started this research
that I would have been able
574
00:34:04,876 --> 00:34:06,461
to look at all of you guys.
575
00:34:06,962 --> 00:34:10,047
Because sometimes it felt like
it was an impossible story
576
00:34:10,048 --> 00:34:14,970
to unravel, and to see
relatives of this man.
577
00:34:15,512 --> 00:34:17,680
I'm really like, this
is a big moment for me.
578
00:34:17,681 --> 00:34:19,473
So thank you all for
being here, it really,
579
00:34:19,474 --> 00:34:21,351
it really means a lot
580
00:34:21,726 --> 00:34:25,437
The tenacity that
you've shown to stick this out.
581
00:34:25,438 --> 00:34:28,441
I'm so grateful for you,
that you did not give up.
582
00:34:28,858 --> 00:34:32,444
I think it's stories
like this Doe's that remind
583
00:34:32,445 --> 00:34:36,031
people of how important it is
to know your family history,
584
00:34:36,032 --> 00:34:38,493
know where you come
from, know your roots.
585
00:34:38,868 --> 00:34:41,161
Because this could have been
easily solved if you know,
586
00:34:41,162 --> 00:34:43,373
we all have full family trees,
but we know why we don't.
587
00:34:43,540 --> 00:34:45,542
Uh huh.
Um.
588
00:34:46,543 --> 00:34:49,170
So I, I wanna ask
you guys something.
589
00:34:50,005 --> 00:34:52,047
With the help of
the DNA DOE Project,
590
00:34:52,048 --> 00:34:56,135
we've been able to put um
some facial reconstruction
591
00:34:56,136 --> 00:34:58,513
of what the Doe
might look like.
592
00:34:58,638 --> 00:34:59,805
Would you all like to see it?
593
00:34:59,806 --> 00:35:01,808
Yes!!
594
00:35:03,268 --> 00:35:04,476
Okay, so.
595
00:35:04,477 --> 00:35:05,478
Oh my god.
596
00:35:05,604 --> 00:35:06,646
Wait wait wait. Alright.
597
00:35:06,938 --> 00:35:08,940
Deep breaths.
I know.
598
00:35:09,190 --> 00:35:12,444
Cos the first time I saw
it, it overwhelmed me.
599
00:35:13,570 --> 00:35:17,532
So this is what we believe,
that he looked like.
600
00:35:17,741 --> 00:35:19,451
Oh my goodness!
601
00:35:19,909 --> 00:35:22,120
So that's the
older version of him.
602
00:35:23,204 --> 00:35:24,371
Oh my gosh
And then,
603
00:35:24,372 --> 00:35:26,665
this is what we believe
he may have looked like
604
00:35:26,666 --> 00:35:28,000
when he was younger.
605
00:35:28,001 --> 00:35:29,209
Wow.
606
00:35:29,210 --> 00:35:34,466
Oh!
Oh My Goodness.
607
00:35:53,109 --> 00:35:54,778
The first thing
that came to mind is that I
608
00:35:54,903 --> 00:35:59,198
can feel it in my bones saying
like you know, help me out.
609
00:35:59,199 --> 00:36:03,244
Help me. Nobody has
to be alone.
610
00:36:04,829 --> 00:36:06,539
It's like a, a,
an aching inside.
611
00:36:10,460 --> 00:36:12,795
I never got
to know who he was.
612
00:36:12,796 --> 00:36:16,215
There's nobody, cousins
and uncles to say,
613
00:36:16,216 --> 00:36:18,884
yeah remember when so and
so did this and remember
614
00:36:18,885 --> 00:36:21,512
when he climbed a tree
and fell out'.
615
00:36:21,513 --> 00:36:24,014
Those stories are so important.
616
00:36:24,015 --> 00:36:26,183
This is what my nephew,
Michael, looks like.
617
00:36:26,184 --> 00:36:27,477
He could be his doppelganger.
618
00:36:28,812 --> 00:36:30,479
Do you see
Uncle Aaron in there?
619
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:31,271
The cheekbones.
620
00:36:31,272 --> 00:36:32,482
The nose.
621
00:36:40,782 --> 00:36:42,867
He's welcomed
in our family.
622
00:36:44,327 --> 00:36:47,079
His life was a blessing.
623
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,624
To bring two families together
that did not even know
624
00:36:50,625 --> 00:36:52,293
that the other existed.
625
00:36:55,505 --> 00:36:58,716
To me, us being here
is really a testament
626
00:36:58,717 --> 00:37:01,928
to the journey that our
people have gone through.
627
00:37:02,512 --> 00:37:04,931
You know? I'm connected
to that person
628
00:37:05,515 --> 00:37:08,225
and we are connected
to that person.
629
00:37:08,226 --> 00:37:12,313
By us coming together,
we have the opportunity
630
00:37:12,689 --> 00:37:18,153
and we have the hope that
his name will be remembered,
631
00:37:18,945 --> 00:37:21,740
and it's through our connection
that that's gonna happen.
632
00:37:23,825 --> 00:37:25,577
Here we go.
633
00:37:25,702 --> 00:37:28,204
I'm rolling.
Okay and Action.
634
00:37:28,413 --> 00:37:30,539
Two families
who have never met,
635
00:37:30,540 --> 00:37:32,917
share a bond they
would never imagine.
636
00:37:33,126 --> 00:37:36,754
{\an8}Their DNA connects them to
a story of man found dead
637
00:37:36,755 --> 00:37:38,965
{\an8}on a train in 1961.
638
00:37:39,716 --> 00:37:42,050
Marresa's news
package will be broadcast
639
00:37:42,051 --> 00:37:44,303
in all parts of the country
where the Doe's roots
640
00:37:44,304 --> 00:37:46,305
have been discovered.
641
00:37:46,306 --> 00:37:49,183
We're trying to
find out how Mum and Dad met.
642
00:37:49,184 --> 00:37:51,810
We can work on this
as long as it takes.
643
00:37:51,811 --> 00:37:54,689
{\an8}DNA. It not
just connects the dead,
644
00:37:54,814 --> 00:37:56,357
{\an8}it connects the living.
645
00:37:57,150 --> 00:38:01,528
{\an8}My ultimate hope
is to have the one set of DNA
646
00:38:01,529 --> 00:38:04,991
{\an8}that we're missing that can
put the whole puzzle together,
647
00:38:05,533 --> 00:38:10,120
{\an8}and that these remains, will
go in a respectful manner
648
00:38:10,121 --> 00:38:12,040
{\an8}to where they truly belong.
649
00:38:12,624 --> 00:38:14,625
{\an8}If this story
resonates with your family
650
00:38:14,626 --> 00:38:18,253
{\an8}history you can help by
uploading your DNA profile,
651
00:38:18,254 --> 00:38:21,382
{\an8}those details will be
available on Wave 3.com.
652
00:38:21,966 --> 00:38:23,175
In Roseville, California.
653
00:38:23,176 --> 00:38:24,594
Marresa Burke Wave News.
654
00:38:29,098 --> 00:38:31,768
It's hard to think
about him being alone,
655
00:38:32,268 --> 00:38:34,437
like when I first
started on my research.
656
00:38:35,647 --> 00:38:41,986
Because he's not alone.
He has family now.
657
00:38:44,364 --> 00:38:48,993
But it's not enough,
and I'm not gonna stop
658
00:38:49,744 --> 00:38:54,415
until the Unknown Negro
has his name back.
658
00:38:55,305 --> 00:39:55,652