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All she's doing is,
on New Year's Day,
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taking a hike with her dog.
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The blood was wet.
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It was fresh.
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That was disturbing.
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It was a calm
place, she thought.
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And then she was kidnapped.
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The way in which
this person gets money
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is by abducting these victims.
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He fits the definition
of a serial killer, by far.
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I mean, he's just pure evil.
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It was too much
to even comprehend.
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And she kept repeating,
he's going to kill me.
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And he shoots my daughter.
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That's about the
only time in my career
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that I just wanted
to shoot him.
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You can run.
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You can't hide.
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North Georgia
is a really unique area.
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It's a very mountainous area.
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National Forest
land is abundant.
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Blood Mountain
is actually the highest
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peak in Georgia that the
Appalachian Trail crosses.
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It's beautiful.
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There's waterfalls
and great mountain views.
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And so we have lots
of tourism and lots
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of hikers and campers
in these areas.
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The forests, as they
are, are remote locations
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throughout the United States.
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But they bring leisure
to most people,
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but sadly can be an
opportunity for those
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looking for
horrific activities,
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criminal activities
to take place.
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My name is Clay Bridges.
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I was working for the
region 8 GBI office.
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And we would be
called in any time
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there was a missing
person, homicide,
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suicide, those type thing.
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I was driving home
and received a telephone
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call from the chief deputy of
Union County Sheriff's Office.
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He contacted me and said
that they had a missing
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person on Blood Mountain.
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So my first action was to
learn as much as I could
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about her, as to what
could have happened to her.
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Meredith Emerson
was 24 years old.
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She lived at the time in a
northern suburb of Atlanta.
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And she was an avid hiker.
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By the next day, when Meredith
Emerson did not show up
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for work, and the fact that
the weather conditions on Blood
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Mountain had deteriorated
greatly, we all were concerned
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that even if it was an injured
hiker or just a lost hiker,
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or got off the
trail and was lost,
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could anybody survive
that kind of environment?
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We set up a command post
at the Vogel State Park,
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which is right there
at the base of the mountain,
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just running down
any kind of leads.
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So a lot of what we were
doing was making phone calls,
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just trying to-- you
know, anybody in the area,
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trying to identify anyone
who may have seen anything.
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The tips we began to receive
were sightings of Meredith
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and her dog, Ella,
that she took with her
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that morning to go hiking.
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I went to the parking
lot of the
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Herbert Reese
Memorial Trailhead
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there at Blood Mountain.
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I call that
the approach trail.
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When we discovered
her water bottles
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and some of her effects
at the trail,
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we felt like
something bad had happened.
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There was also a police
baton found in the area.
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That was concerning for us.
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And, you know,
I wonder if someone
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had tried to strike
her with that.
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The ground was so
disturbed in that area
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where the-- you could tell it
was a very violent fight that
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had taken place right there.
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That was the trigger that
prompted them to contact
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my office, just in case
this was going to be
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more than an overdue hiker.
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All she's doing is,
on New Year's Day,
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taking a hike with her dog.
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I was there on January 2nd
when all this came to light
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and searches began to happen
there on Blood Mountain.
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We needed to close the
trail and the parking lot
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and move down to the
state park, where
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we set up our search effort.
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You can walk
for literally days
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and not come across a road.
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It's just vast amounts of--
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vast amounts of
woods, nothingness.
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If someone disposes of a
body in a national forest,
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you'll never find them.
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We have lots
of tourism and lots
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of hikers and campers
in these areas.
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So a lot of what we were
doing was making phone calls,
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just trying to--
you know, anybody in the area,
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trying to identify anyone
who may have seen anything.
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We pushed out
information asking
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the public to call our
tip line if they had
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seen Meredith on the trail.
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We began to get reports
of a strange-looking man
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with Meredith on the trail.
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They all described him
almost identical-- you know,
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older gentleman, very fit,
wearing high-end hiking gear,
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but he has duct
tape on his shoes.
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He's got a dog with him.
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And they saw him
around a white van.
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The very first thing
I did, I checked her phone
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records and her bank records.
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We determined that
Meredith's debit card
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had been attempted
to be used at various ATMs
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off the mountain.
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There was one attempt 45
miles away the first night.
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There was another attempt 80
miles away from the abduction
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site the next day.
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At that point,
we were actually contacted
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by law enforcement
in North Carolina
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and said, hey,
we had a couple just
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like that,
that were hiking, that
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went missing without a trace.
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John and Irene Bryant were
in their late 70s, early 80s.
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They were experienced hikers.
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And they took out one
afternoon to just do
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a day hike in the
Pisgah National Forest,
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which is probably a
couple hours from our office
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here in Georgia.
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And the Pisgah National
Forest is extremely remote,
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consists of several thousand
acres of forest land.
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John and Irene Bryant
were very friendly people,
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well-liked in the community.
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And they had told someone
that they were going hiking
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in the National Forest area.
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They disappeared.
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And so, when the
authorities began
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to search for John and Irene,
they found the body of Irene,
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but not--
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no signs of John.
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They stated that she had been
killed with blunt-force trauma.
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And it was a cylindrical
object with what looked like
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maybe a ball at the end of it.
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I immediately thought,
there's a police-style baton
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up here on this trail.
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We believe John
tried to call 911.
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And the call
was almost immediately
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dropped because the
signal was too low.
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Later on in the same
day, John's debit card
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was used at an ATM
in an area called Ducktown,
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Tennessee, which is about
two hours from the Pisgah
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National Forest.
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And that's when North
Carolina officials
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also told us about the Florida
case concerning Sherry Dunlap.
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My name is Gloria Tucker.
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My cousin, Cheryl Dunlap,
which I referred to her
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as Sherry all the time,
she was a beautiful person
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inside and out.
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She had two grown children.
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She was divorced.
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She was somebody who kept
herself busy, primarily
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serving other people.
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She was a devout Christian,
very involved in her church.
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Sherry loved her children.
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She had two boys.
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She took home the burden of
really caring for the boys
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totally all by herself.
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She was just
a very home-oriented
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person who wanted to help
other people have a good life.
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She went for a day
hike in the Apalachicola
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National Forest in an
area called Leon Sinks.
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It's very much like any
other national forest.
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There's hiking trails, you
know, just a very nice area
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to spend time.
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And then she was kidnapped.
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The search for Cheryl
was on down there,
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very similar to
the search for John
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and Irene Bryant
in North Carolina.
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They had volunteers who
came into the forest
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to look for Cheryl.
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And not too far
into the search,
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Cheryl's car was found
just outside the forest.
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And the driver's side rear
tire had been punctured.
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He had his face taped up.
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He didn't want anyone
to recognize who he was.
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The county, at that time,
was just in an uproar.
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Some hunters in the forest
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saw some buzzards circling
in the area and went over
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and found
the remains of Cheryl.
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Her head had been removed,
as well as her hands.
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But they were able to
identify her through some DNA.
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It was unnerving,
you know, the manner in which
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Cheryl Dunlap had been found.
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I didn't want to
know anything about it.
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But several people told my
sister and myself about it.
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So, you know, it was--
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it wasn't a good thing.
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It's just an overwhelming
feeling when you have to deal
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with that much tragedy.
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Just a terrible thing.
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When we learned
of those cases,
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then we began to talk
to both jurisdictions
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about the similarities.
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The photographs of the
person walking up to the ATMs
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was very, very similar.
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The way in which
this person gets money
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is by abducting these victims.
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And then, when we got our
photographs from our ATMs,
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there was no doubt that
it was the same person.
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We got a telephone
call to the tip line
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from a lady about 60 miles
south of Blood Mountain who
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said, I think I just
saw Meredith Emerson's
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dog walk into a grocery store.
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And the video surveillance
at the grocery store
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shows it walking
around, almost--
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it almost looked like
it was asking for help.
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We were able to pick
up the dog very quickly
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and identify the dog as
Ella through an ID chip
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that she had in her.
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So we knew that Ella
was in an area 70 miles
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south of the abduction site.
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And the agents
I sent down there found
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a dumpster in the parking lot.
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And they decided
to look in the dumpster.
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And that's where we
found the things that
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I had hoped that we wouldn't.
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We found bloody clothing.
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We found Meredith's
driver's license and wallet.
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We found other clothing,
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men's clothing
with blood on them.
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And this is not
just blood stains.
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This was blood that you could--
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so much, you could
wring it out.
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The blood was wet.
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It was fresh.
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That was disturbing,
because up
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to this point,
we were all holding out
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the hope that Meredith's alive.
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We're going to, you
know, capture the bad guy
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and recover her.
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And it's going to
have a happy ending.
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My name is John Tabor.
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I own a telemarketing
operation.
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I was working out and caught
the top of the news
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where they--
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they broke to cover
this case of the missing
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girl up in North Georgia.
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They said that
there was evidence
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of a struggle in
the parking lot
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where they found
Meredith's vehicle.
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But what really got
my attention was,
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they said they found an
expandable police baton.
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That's what really made
me stop in my tracks.
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I knew someone
who used to work for me
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who carried a police baton.
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And now I'm just staring
at the television.
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I just remember
just going numb.
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John Tabor
contacts us and says,
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I know who you're
talking about.
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His name
is Gary Michael Hilton.
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I first met Gary Hilton
when he replied to a help
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wanted ad for telemarketers.
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He was very fond
of the outdoors.
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And he was a smart individual.
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He could do rather
complex mathematics
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in his head and spit
numbers out that most
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people couldn't do.
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He did his job.
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And my impression was just
that he never got along
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that well with other people
and just, therefore,
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seemed to prefer
the company of his dog
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rather than other humans.
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He worked in that office
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uneventfully for a decade.
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I got frustrated at some
point, where it just
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became obvious that he had lost
interest in actually working.
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And then, suddenly,
within a matter of a few weeks,
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he became extremely
distant and belligerent.
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I realized at that point
that this is a real problem.
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The situation just
spiraled downward rapidly.
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I decided to stop by
the office
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one evening unannounced.
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The first thing
I noticed, there were
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no lights on in the office.
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And the back door was wide
open, which was also unusual.
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I just had
this feeling of doom.
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Nothing seemed right.
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Everything seemed out of order.
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And then suddenly,
he pops out of a doorway.
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So I immediately
noticed that he was much
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more disheveled than normal.
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And I noticed that several
of his teeth were missing.
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And I was pretty
shocked by that.
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And I just said, oh, well, you
know, what happened to you?
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He said, I pulled them out
with this pair of pliers.
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He said he did it so it
would frighten people
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when they looked at him.
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I knew at that point, I needed
to get the hell out of there
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as soon as I could.
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I felt like something bad
could happen at any moment.
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It really hit home when
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he demanded a certain
amount of money, $3,000.
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And he said,
you know, John,
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you've got a great life,
beautiful wife,
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this beautiful young son.
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It would be such a shame
for you to lose all that.
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It's a hell of a thing
to be confronted with.
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I agreed to write
this check for him.
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I told him I would put it by
the front door of my house,
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and he would come get it,
so I did.
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I wrote the check
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put it by the front door
of my house.
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And Hilton came
out of the woods,
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out of nowhere,
at exactly the same time
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as I was walking
down the driveway.
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So we literally are
now facing each other.
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And all I can remember
thinking at that point was,
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wow, I wish I had on a
bulletproof vest and a firearm
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right now.
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I felt incredibly vulnerable.
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I knew at that moment, I needed
to get inside that front door
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of my house
as quickly as possible,
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because I had a Glock
9-millimeter positioned
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close to the front door.
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I dropped my belongings on
the floor, got my firearm,
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chambered the round, and came
right back out the front door
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with the gun pointing
in the direction he was in.
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He was now
maybe a hundred feet away,
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and he was fleeing back
off into the woods.
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I believed that one of us
was going to end up dead.
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We found out of his
bizarre encounters
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with law enforcement
in the past.
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For instance, he would be
confronted in the forest
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for camping
in an unauthorized area.
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That was captured on video.
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And he was acting
extremely bizarre.
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When we look at people
who have gotten in trouble
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with the law,
they don't necessarily
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fit our idea as a society
of acceptable behavior.
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That's where most serial
killers kill, in an area
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where they are the
most comfortable,
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and they feel
the most in control.
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He has the upper hand.
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He knows this area
backwards and forwards.
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So it was easy
for him to scout,
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00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,760
to have this fantasy
of whatever he's doing.
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He knows exactly what to
do to get these people to do
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what he wants them to do.
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Authorities hold out little
hope of finding 24-year-old
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Meredith Emerson alive.
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At that time,
the newscast was,
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missing young girl up here
in North Georgia mountains.
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I remember running upstairs
after watching that broadcast
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and telling my wife,
you know, hey,
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you're not going
to believe this.
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But did I just hear
an expandable police baton?
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Because that's
something that I knew
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00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,240
Hilton had with
him all the time.
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He used those to protect
his dog from other dogs
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approaching his dog.
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00:21:51,120 --> 00:21:53,200
And again,
I had never met anyone
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in my life that carried
around a police baton
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unless they were
a police officer.
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00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:03,360
And I said, I think I
need to call the police.
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I basically just said--
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00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:09,080
told them who I was
and that I knew someone
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who carried a police baton.
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He fit the description, had a
dog that fit that description.
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00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,160
I told them his name.
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00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:24,000
I told them the vehicle
that he was driving.
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00:22:24,120 --> 00:22:27,720
John Tabor says, I can give
you the tag number to the van
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because I bought it for him.
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00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,080
So we pull a driver's
license photo of him
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and put it out onto
the news media.
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Maybe six hours after I
made that phone call, and--
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this is the part
that still stuns me today--
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00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:47,280
my phone rang.
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And it was him.
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00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,320
After seven months of
absolutely no communication,
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00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,520
and there he was, on the
phone with me, out of nowhere,
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like a ghost.
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00:23:04,120 --> 00:23:08,320
I'm just, you know,
sitting in my car
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in a state of disbelief.
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And I played along.
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00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:18,800
And he said he needed some
money to get started,
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you know, to get back
to work and whatnot.
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00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:21,760
And I said, hey,
that's no problem.
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How much do you need?
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We discussed an amount.
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00:23:25,120 --> 00:23:26,120
And I said, yeah,
I'll be more than
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00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:27,760
happy to give you the check.
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00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:28,720
I tried to meet him
right then and there.
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00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,080
I said, well, where are you?
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I'll bring you
a check right now.
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He just said that
that's not possible.
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I can't meet you.
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00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,440
He could not meet me then
under any circumstances.
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00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,480
But within the next
couple of days,
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he would come get the check.
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00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,800
Once we learned that there
was a possibility that Hilton
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00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,640
would go to pick up the check,
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00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,440
we got with the local
jurisdiction in Atlanta.
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00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:57,480
And they deployed their SWAT
team around the business.
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00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,360
And they were prepared to
grab him if he showed up.
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00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,240
They stayed all night, into
the next day, and into Friday,
404
00:24:04,360 --> 00:24:06,200
and he didn't show up.
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00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:17,320
It wasn't that long until a
citizen called 911 in that
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00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,520
jurisdiction
in Atlanta and said,
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00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,280
I think I'm looking
at the guy that y'all
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00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,000
have been looking for all
week with the missing hiker.
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00:24:24,120 --> 00:24:25,360
DeKalb 911.
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00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,080
What's the exact location?
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00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,040
Basically stayed
on the phone,
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00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,520
watching him, while the
officers were responding
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00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:17,840
to take him into custody.
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00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,120
He was not talking.
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00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:27,840
But we knew that there
were answers to some
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00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,000
of our questions in the van.
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00:25:30,120 --> 00:25:33,160
Three bloody fleece tops and
a bloodstained piece of a car
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00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,360
seat belt were
found in a trash bin
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00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:36,880
beside a convenience
store where
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00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,600
Hilton had used a pay phone.
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00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,680
Hilton had attempted
to vacuum and wash
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00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,400
portions of his van.
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Basically, everything that
had blood on it, or he thought
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00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,720
had blood on it, or anything
that could tie him to Meredith,
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00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,520
he was trying to rid his
van of it, basically.
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00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,840
We had DeKalb County transport
him to our headquarters.
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00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,320
When I arrived at the scene,
Gary's vehicle was there.
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00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,200
There were witnesses that had
seen Gary taking items out
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00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,280
of his vehicle and throwing
them in the dumpster
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00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,040
at the convenience store.
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00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,160
So I had a long
night ahead of me.
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00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:13,840
I had to go through
the dumpster,
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00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:15,680
process every item
in the dumpster
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00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,640
behind a convenience store.
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00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,400
I then had Gary's van,
which we made the decision
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00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,160
to tow the van and process it
in a controlled environment
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00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,080
back in our lab.
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00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,720
When I first met him, he was
on the floor in a conference
439
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,400
room in GBI headquarters.
440
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:36,520
Gary was lying on the
floor in a fetal position
441
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,640
and kept saying that he
had multiple sclerosis,
442
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:44,240
and he needed an immediate shot
of folic acid,
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00:26:44,360 --> 00:26:47,840
and just kind of talking crazy.
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00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:52,160
He had a fingernail
gouge into his nose,
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00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:57,320
a pretty substantial cut on
his nose from a fingernail.
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00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,640
It looked to be a
defensive wound someone
447
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,680
else had inflicted on him.
448
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,480
And his hand
was obviously broken.
449
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:10,000
And I said, hey,
I just want to talk
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00:27:10,120 --> 00:27:11,840
to you a little bit about
where Meredith Emerson is.
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00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,720
He said, I believe
verbatim, he said,
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00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,000
I'm answering no questions.
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00:27:36,120 --> 00:27:37,920
I'm waiving no rights.
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00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,560
I want an attorney present
with me before any questioning.
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00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,400
In Georgia,
police are questioning
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00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,640
the man last seen with missing
hiker Meredith Emerson.
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00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,560
Emerson disappeared
on New Year's Day
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00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,840
after going to a state park
for a hike with her dog.
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00:27:54,960 --> 00:28:00,000
Once we had his van,
we had tons of evidence.
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00:28:00,120 --> 00:28:03,080
The first obvious blood
pattern that was located
461
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,840
was on the back
of the driver's seat.
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00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,040
So we cut it out.
463
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:12,440
We had blood in the van
that matched Meredith Emerson.
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00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,040
Cheryl Dunlap's
car had a flat tire.
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00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,080
And there was a bayonet
that we recovered,
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00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,480
like a
military-style bayonet knife.
467
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,400
And Florida forensics
were able to match that
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00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,200
to the puncture in the tire.
469
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:30,120
In a couple of the videos,
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00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:34,000
where Gary is trying to get
money out of the ATM,
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00:28:34,120 --> 00:28:36,240
he's wearing a yellow
jacket with a piece
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00:28:36,360 --> 00:28:38,520
of reflective material on it.
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00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,560
That jacket was in the van.
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00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,080
In Georgia,
there is a criminal statute
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00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,440
called kidnapping
with bodily injury,
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00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,440
which carries a life sentence.
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00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,920
So we knew that we
had him for that.
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00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:55,240
We got a call
from the prosecutor
479
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,960
and said, OK, he's
willing to meet and tell
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00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,320
you where Meredith is.
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00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,200
He is such a narcissist
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00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:13,040
that he believes that he
is the best at what he does.
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00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:18,280
And I believe that
for him to be caught
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00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,720
was almost humiliating
to him, because he was
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00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,160
smarter than anybody,
486
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,080
smarter than any of us
in the room with him.
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00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:42,480
Everything I've studied
throughout my career
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00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,440
tells me that he's probably
a sexual sadist psychopath.
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00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,640
One thing that he
wanted very much
490
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,200
was to have the death
penalty taken off the table
491
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,080
before he would talk.
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00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,080
At that point,
we knew we had John Bryant
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00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:02,120
DNA in that van.
494
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:06,560
Some boots had Cheryl
Dunlap's blood on it.
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00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,800
So we knew we had a couple
of more bites at the apple
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00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,840
of giving him
the death penalty,
497
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,120
and agreed to go ahead
and take
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00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:15,640
the death penalty off
the table for Meredith
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00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,600
and recover her body.
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00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,160
Went up to the jail.
501
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,640
And Clay and I
went into a room.
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00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,280
And they brought him in.
503
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,840
And I said, I understand
that you want to tell
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00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:28,520
us where Meredith is now.
505
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,560
And so he began
to tell us the story.
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00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:42,840
Meredith decided to go for a
hike and a jog on New Year's.
507
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,040
Gary sat up in the woods
and surveyed the parking lot
508
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:47,960
and made the decision on
who he was going to abduct
509
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,080
and carried out his plan.
510
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,680
Hilton basically
saw her on the trail.
511
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:57,120
She had a dog.
512
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:58,800
He had a dog.
513
00:30:58,920 --> 00:30:59,560
He knew that he could
strike up a conversation
514
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,080
about the dogs.
515
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,200
Eventually, she said, OK,
I'll talk to you later.
516
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,080
And she pretty much
ran up the trail.
517
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,280
And she probably
sensed that there
518
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,960
was something-- something
wasn't good about it,
519
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,600
and left him behind.
520
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:19,160
So he concealed himself
along the trail.
521
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,480
Some people had actually
seen him hiding,
522
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,080
crouching behind the rocks.
523
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,920
Gary Hilton waited
on Meredith as she was
524
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,880
coming back down the trail.
525
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,360
And he attacked her.
526
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,040
Meredith was trained
in martial arts.
527
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:50,640
And Gary Hilton
would later tell
528
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,960
us that she almost took him.
529
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,680
In other words,
she almost beat him up.
530
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,720
He finally got control of her
by convincing her he had a gun.
531
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,520
And so he makes his way
back down to the parking lot
532
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,400
and forces Meredith into
the van, along with Ella,
533
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,120
and they leave.
534
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:36,480
The bank should have known
that her PIN and her card
535
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,200
was used.
536
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:44,320
For whatever reason,
since no money was taken out,
537
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:49,880
they didn't classify that
as being used, or something.
538
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:54,120
But I feel confident
that in Meredith's mind,
539
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,160
she was doing that
540
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:01,760
in hopes that we would
be able to track her
541
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,440
and be able to find her sooner.
542
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,000
She was thinking,
well, if I can just
543
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,080
keep him at bay just
a little bit longer,
544
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:22,080
they're going to find me.
545
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:23,000
They're going to find me.
546
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,120
I listened to
all that and him
547
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:02,960
describe how he took her life.
548
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:08,200
And once he was taken away,
it all flooded in on me,
549
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:09,760
and I just began to cry.
550
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,520
It was nothing
I've ever experienced
551
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:16,760
before, nothing like anything
I've ever been around.
552
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:31,640
It was too much to even
comprehend,
553
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:36,840
how he could be that cruel,
554
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:43,080
that evil, and commit
the horrific acts that he did.
555
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:44,840
It's sickening.
556
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,880
It makes me sick today,
just thinking about it.
557
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,320
I'm sick to my stomach.
558
00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,680
I wish I had killed him.
559
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:07,440
After the fact,
finding out
560
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:12,480
everything that she did and how
close we came to catching him
561
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,600
on numerous occasions,
and she was still alive,
562
00:35:15,720 --> 00:35:20,640
to this day,
it breaks my heart.
563
00:35:35,240 --> 00:35:37,240
He agreed to tell
us where the body was.
564
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,200
And he started
showing us on a map.
565
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,400
And he said,
the head will be missing.
566
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:47,200
So we took Hilton
to that area.
567
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,320
We take him with us
down there because I
568
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:55,440
was not sure at all that
we could find both scenes.
569
00:35:55,560 --> 00:36:00,800
And so we were able
to find Meredith's body.
570
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,520
Well, the body was
covered with leaves
571
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,320
and limbs and debris.
572
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,600
Literally, you could be
standing a couple of feet away
573
00:36:09,720 --> 00:36:11,320
and not know there
was a body there.
574
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,520
So he had done a very good
job of concealing the body.
575
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,120
He had taken her
head off and moved it
576
00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:25,320
to another location about
a mile away from her body.
577
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:31,240
And we walked him down a
little road inside the forest.
578
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:36,560
And he told me to walk
up over a small bank
579
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,120
to a dead tree that would
be lying on the ground.
580
00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:42,040
On one end of the tree
would be some
581
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:43,960
of Meredith's clothing.
582
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:48,200
And toward the other
end would be her head.
583
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,640
And we secured both
scenes and went to work
584
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,400
that night in the forest.
585
00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,880
Gary Hilton was very arrogant.
586
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,360
He was very nonchalant
about what he had done
587
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,440
and why he had done it.
588
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:11,760
I asked him why he
had removed her head.
589
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:16,600
And he said,
for forensic purposes.
590
00:37:16,720 --> 00:37:19,520
Gary Hilton didn't do that
for forensic purposes.
591
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,360
He did it because he liked it.
592
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,520
As soon as I was able to find
593
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:30,080
Meredith's head
594
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,880
I guess that's about the
only time in my career
595
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,200
that I just wanted
to shoot him.
596
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:40,520
He has absolutely no
redeeming features at all.
597
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,000
So we got him out
of there very quickly
598
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:44,640
and took him back
up to the jail.
599
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:07,200
It was the most horrific
thing I think I had ever heard.
600
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,160
You really start
getting a sense
601
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:15,440
of this dehumanization and
complete lack of any ability
602
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:16,960
to care about anybody else.
603
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:32,040
He seemed to have no trouble
whatsoever murdering Meredith.
604
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:36,080
But he cannot murder Ella.
605
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,600
And I think that's
very, very significant.
606
00:38:38,720 --> 00:38:41,880
It just speaks to the
lack of attachment
607
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,440
that Gary Hilton seems
to have with anybody.
608
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:51,960
John Bryant
was taken, held captive
609
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:53,920
in the back of Hilton's van.
610
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,720
He chained him around the
neck and padlocked the chain.
611
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,400
And takes him
to another park.
612
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:05,960
And then he kills him, uses
his bank card, and gets $300.
613
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,160
And that is what he gets
in exchange for, you know,
614
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,000
just a beautiful couple's life.
615
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,560
And it was later
on that John's body
616
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:20,240
was found in the
Nantahala National Forest.
617
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,240
And he was identified by
his pacemaker, I believe.
618
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,000
He had a pacemaker inserted.
619
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:29,640
And it was still
within his remains.
620
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,360
I do think,
once he crossed the line,
621
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:38,440
once he murders Irene and John,
I think there is no going back.
622
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,000
And I think he
would have continued
623
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,440
to kill until he was caught.
624
00:40:00,240 --> 00:40:03,800
It tells us a lot about Gary
Hilton in terms of how he views
625
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,080
his victims,
essentially as objects
626
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,720
that he's got to now figure out
how to disguise and get rid of.
627
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,800
We know he allegedly
had a psychotic break.
628
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,800
And there have been several
people who've said that perhaps
629
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:33,560
he had some severe
mental illness,
630
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,400
like schizoaffective disorder
and those kinds of things.
631
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:00,760
He goes in all these rants.
632
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:02,440
He talks about all
these things that
633
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,680
don't seem to have anything
to do with the reason
634
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,760
he's being interrogated about.
635
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:12,000
He absolutely does
seem to be, you know,
636
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:16,080
disturbed in some respects.
637
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:17,960
There is no doubt
in my mind that he
638
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,160
killed many other people.
639
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,200
You don't wake
up at 61 and start
640
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,640
doing these kinds of crimes
the way he does them.
641
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,960
Dismembering bodies
is not something
642
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,760
you just decide to do.
643
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,560
There's no way to know that
unless he tells you that,
644
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,000
unless you can prove
to him that you
645
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:37,760
can prove that he did do it.
646
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,520
I think
that Gary Michael Hilton
647
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:50,640
is a coward.
648
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:56,320
What he did to Meredith
and what he did to Sherry,
649
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,280
just absolutely,
totally wicked.
650
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,080
Gary Hilton's
absolutely evil.
651
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,440
You look in his eyes,
and you can tell that.
652
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:27,240
He brags about being the
smartest guy in the room.
653
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:31,960
Yeah, even though he
has a fairly high IQ,
654
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,520
he made some serious
mistakes in these cases
655
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:38,920
that helped us prosecute him.
656
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:43,920
But he's a typical serial
killer, very narcissistic,
657
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:47,680
holds himself in
very high regard,
658
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:51,360
has to be the center of
attention when you talk to him.
659
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,400
He fits the definition of
a serial killer, by far.
660
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:02,280
I honestly believe that
there's countless victims that
661
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,280
fell victim to Gary Hilton.
662
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:09,480
But he will never
say anything about it
663
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:15,240
unless his execution date is
set and the time draws near.
664
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:19,760
He may bring something
up just to remain alive.
665
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:24,520
So I'm holding out hope
that when that day comes,
666
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,200
and hopefully in the
near future, that he will
667
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,160
start to open up a little bit.
668
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:34,400
But unless you can show Gary
Hilton that he is caught,
669
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:39,400
he will admit to nothing.
670
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,600
He's just pure evil.
671
00:43:41,720 --> 00:43:43,640
You can see it in his eyes.
672
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,120
I've never met
anybody that you could
673
00:43:46,240 --> 00:43:49,800
literally look in their
eyes and see evil, but him.
674
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:50,800
And he is.
675
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,360
He's truly evil.
676
00:44:18,720 --> 00:44:21,440
He called himself
a sick ripper.
677
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,960
He was an affable
southern gentleman,
678
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,480
had a good sense of humor,
and was very easygoing
679
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:27,480
and laid back.
680
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:36,200
He shows that picture and
tells a jailhouse inmate,
681
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,080
I'm the one that murdered
this young woman.
682
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,600
She was stepping
into a death chamber.
682
00:44:48,305 --> 00:45:48,326
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