Simple Plan: The Kids in the Crowd

1 00:00:53,387 --> 00:00:54,846 What are you doing here? 2 00:00:54,847 --> 00:00:55,889 What are you doing here? 3 00:00:55,890 --> 00:00:57,265 I'm practicing. 4 00:00:57,266 --> 00:00:58,641 Why do you guys need to practice? 5 00:00:58,642 --> 00:01:00,019 Because we suck! 6 00:01:14,825 --> 00:01:17,243 Simple Plan! Simple Plan! 7 00:01:17,244 --> 00:01:25,244 Simple Plan! Simple Plan! 8 00:01:33,302 --> 00:01:41,302 Simple Plan! Simple Plan! 9 00:01:55,491 --> 00:01:56,991 We are Simple Plan. 10 00:01:56,992 --> 00:02:00,079 Everybody make some noise! 11 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,726 Sometimes I feel like I accidentally got here. 12 00:02:23,727 --> 00:02:25,770 I was angry back then. I didn't fit in. 13 00:02:25,771 --> 00:02:29,065 My life just didn't make sense, and music was my escape. 14 00:02:30,568 --> 00:02:32,026 Have you ever seen a zombie movie? 15 00:02:32,027 --> 00:02:34,320 They are the definition of brotherhood. 16 00:02:34,321 --> 00:02:35,822 You love your brother, 17 00:02:35,823 --> 00:02:38,200 but you wanna fucking strangle him sometimes. 18 00:02:39,201 --> 00:02:40,326 This is Pierre, he's my friend. 19 00:02:40,327 --> 00:02:41,494 Yeah, my friend. I'm Chuck. 20 00:02:41,495 --> 00:02:42,829 Yeah, we're friends. 21 00:02:47,751 --> 00:02:50,670 I was collecting all these rejection letters, like, 22 00:02:50,671 --> 00:02:52,964 "Although you guys are good, it's not for us at this point." 23 00:02:52,965 --> 00:02:54,257 Nothing was happening with the band, 24 00:02:54,258 --> 00:02:56,384 and I went back to school, and then, boom! 25 00:02:56,385 --> 00:02:59,220 Nothing came easy, I mean, they worked. 26 00:02:59,221 --> 00:03:01,139 You think you know, but you have no idea. 27 00:03:01,140 --> 00:03:02,223 What's going on? 28 00:03:02,224 --> 00:03:04,267 Good guys, bad band! 29 00:03:04,268 --> 00:03:05,852 You guys are too pop for punk. 30 00:03:05,853 --> 00:03:07,645 These guys are new, they're gonna have 31 00:03:07,646 --> 00:03:09,022 to pay their dues. 32 00:03:12,610 --> 00:03:14,694 Normally, the bands, they don't wanna work as hard. 33 00:03:14,695 --> 00:03:16,112 But these guys did it. 34 00:03:16,113 --> 00:03:17,697 Sometimes, I wanna just shake them 35 00:03:17,698 --> 00:03:19,157 and say like, "Just go and have fun." 36 00:03:19,158 --> 00:03:21,159 We're leaving on tour. Once again. 37 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,036 We're really just kids being kids. 38 00:03:23,037 --> 00:03:24,078 -Yeah!! -Yeah!! 39 00:03:24,079 --> 00:03:25,330 I lost my mind when 40 00:03:25,331 --> 00:03:26,956 we started being successful. 41 00:03:26,957 --> 00:03:28,583 This is a private jet! 42 00:03:28,584 --> 00:03:30,919 I'm a millionaire, now, 'cause of SP so. No, I'm not! 43 00:03:30,920 --> 00:03:32,211 I sold a million records, though! 44 00:03:32,212 --> 00:03:33,755 The mix of being naive, 45 00:03:33,756 --> 00:03:35,548 and young, I wasn't processing 46 00:03:35,549 --> 00:03:36,966 all that stuff a whole lot. 47 00:03:36,967 --> 00:03:38,259 This is huge! 48 00:03:38,260 --> 00:03:40,261 Now put your hands up! 49 00:03:40,262 --> 00:03:41,804 I didn't really feel close to the guys, 50 00:03:41,805 --> 00:03:44,599 I was living my own stuff. It was kind of like a shock. 51 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,476 The second hardest thing in the world 52 00:03:46,477 --> 00:03:49,020 in the music business is having a hit song. 53 00:03:49,021 --> 00:03:50,897 The hardest thing is staying there. 54 00:03:50,898 --> 00:03:54,400 We have had so much hate in this band. 55 00:03:54,401 --> 00:03:57,028 I can't believe after 20 plus years, 56 00:03:57,029 --> 00:03:58,780 we're still here doing this shit. 57 00:03:58,781 --> 00:04:00,657 40 years from now, these guys 58 00:04:00,658 --> 00:04:01,866 will still be out there kicking ass. 59 00:04:01,867 --> 00:04:03,785 My mom asked me when I was six, 60 00:04:03,786 --> 00:04:05,203 "What do you want to do in life?" 61 00:04:05,204 --> 00:04:06,913 And I told her, "I wanna be a rock star." 62 00:04:06,914 --> 00:04:09,082 And she's like, "Well, go be a rock star." 63 00:04:12,544 --> 00:04:14,129 You guys remember this song? 64 00:04:16,548 --> 00:04:19,802 Yeah, this song is called, "I'm Just A Kid". 65 00:04:22,513 --> 00:04:24,472 Were you one of those kids 66 00:04:24,473 --> 00:04:27,308 that was playing this song in your bedroom 67 00:04:27,309 --> 00:04:29,228 at your parents' house? 68 00:04:30,104 --> 00:04:33,691 And you were playing it over and over and over again? 69 00:04:34,483 --> 00:04:37,860 And your parents said, "God damn, shut that shit off!" 70 00:04:39,238 --> 00:04:41,322 And then, you said something like, 71 00:04:41,323 --> 00:04:43,032 "You don't understand. 72 00:04:43,033 --> 00:04:44,534 You don't understand, 73 00:04:44,535 --> 00:04:47,286 I love this song, I love this band." 74 00:04:48,956 --> 00:04:51,959 "This band is part of who I am." 75 00:04:52,876 --> 00:04:55,378 And then, your mom or your dad would say something like, 76 00:04:55,379 --> 00:04:57,922 "Oh don't worry, sweetie, it's just a phase, 77 00:04:57,923 --> 00:04:59,215 it's just a phase". 78 00:05:02,052 --> 00:05:06,597 And then you said, "Mom, Dad, it was never a phase!" 79 00:05:56,356 --> 00:05:57,690 This right here, 80 00:05:57,691 --> 00:05:59,491 that's how the Simple Plan movie should start. 81 00:06:00,736 --> 00:06:01,904 What do you think? 82 00:06:08,118 --> 00:06:09,118 Rolling? 83 00:06:09,203 --> 00:06:10,523 Yes. 84 00:06:11,663 --> 00:06:13,122 The way that I was introduced 85 00:06:13,123 --> 00:06:16,375 to Southern California pop-punk or punk rock 86 00:06:16,376 --> 00:06:18,294 was definitely through skateboarding 87 00:06:18,295 --> 00:06:19,962 and snowboarding movies. 88 00:06:20,964 --> 00:06:22,173 There was bands on there 89 00:06:22,174 --> 00:06:23,966 like The Offspring, and Bad Religion. 90 00:06:23,967 --> 00:06:25,885 And I remember hearing that for the first time, 91 00:06:25,886 --> 00:06:28,971 and going like, "Wow, this sounds so cool." 92 00:06:28,972 --> 00:06:31,140 And it was also so fast, like, 93 00:06:31,141 --> 00:06:32,767 "Dah-dah, dah-da-dah da-dah!" 94 00:06:32,768 --> 00:06:34,644 And I was, I just was super excited by it, 95 00:06:34,645 --> 00:06:36,395 I thought it was way different 96 00:06:36,396 --> 00:06:37,647 and it just felt like, 97 00:06:37,648 --> 00:06:39,690 "Wow, this is what I wanna listen to." 98 00:06:39,691 --> 00:06:42,360 Everything about it was just magical to me. 99 00:06:44,321 --> 00:06:45,988 When we were teenagers, 100 00:06:45,989 --> 00:06:49,575 and like in the 94, 95, 96 era, 101 00:06:49,576 --> 00:06:53,704 Montreal was the mecca of punk rock. 102 00:06:53,705 --> 00:06:55,665 It's the weirdest thing, I don't know why. 103 00:06:55,666 --> 00:06:58,084 Punk rock bands on Fat Records and Epitaph 104 00:06:58,085 --> 00:07:01,003 {\an8}were rock stars here. 105 00:07:01,004 --> 00:07:04,549 {\an8}Growing up and being fans of that music in Montreal, 106 00:07:04,550 --> 00:07:07,051 it was the perfect place at the perfect time. 107 00:07:07,052 --> 00:07:09,428 Sometimes, there were so many shows, my parents 108 00:07:09,429 --> 00:07:11,556 wouldn't let me go to like, 109 00:07:11,557 --> 00:07:13,307 there was Bad Religion on Wednesday, 110 00:07:13,308 --> 00:07:15,518 and there was like, Good Riddance on Friday night, 111 00:07:15,519 --> 00:07:18,771 and then Strung Out was playing on Saturday night, it was crazy. 112 00:07:18,772 --> 00:07:21,566 So what was it that really drew you to music? 113 00:07:21,567 --> 00:07:24,652 I think we went to see NOFX, it was probably our 114 00:07:24,653 --> 00:07:26,612 first real punk rock show. 115 00:07:26,613 --> 00:07:28,573 {\an8}And I think the one thing that was really cool for me 116 00:07:28,574 --> 00:07:30,908 {\an8}was that, it wasn't like the band was 117 00:07:30,909 --> 00:07:33,828 different than the kids, it felt like, it was almost like you, 118 00:07:33,829 --> 00:07:35,873 I could've been on stage. You know what I mean? 119 00:07:37,457 --> 00:07:38,958 I've lost all other identity 120 00:07:38,959 --> 00:07:40,878 I may have had; I'm Chuck's dad. 121 00:07:43,380 --> 00:07:46,007 Charles came in one morning, it was his birthday, 122 00:07:46,008 --> 00:07:48,050 "I found a drum set." 123 00:07:48,051 --> 00:07:50,720 "Don't worry, it's just a phase. 124 00:07:50,721 --> 00:07:53,055 In a few weeks, he'll be done with it." 125 00:07:53,056 --> 00:07:56,058 But I was very wrong. Because... 126 00:07:59,313 --> 00:08:02,690 The day the drum set arrived, the friends also came with it. 127 00:08:02,691 --> 00:08:04,400 Then came the guitars, 128 00:08:04,401 --> 00:08:07,153 and a few days later, they were making music. 129 00:08:07,154 --> 00:08:08,446 When did we figure out 130 00:08:08,447 --> 00:08:09,864 he would be on a different path? 131 00:08:09,865 --> 00:08:13,409 He just, music was an important part of his life, 132 00:08:13,410 --> 00:08:16,662 and he started writing at a very young age. 133 00:08:19,333 --> 00:08:20,917 I knew how to play a bit of guitar, 134 00:08:20,918 --> 00:08:23,169 my brother played guitar, my dad played guitar. 135 00:08:23,170 --> 00:08:25,171 But it really began when I started going 136 00:08:25,172 --> 00:08:27,382 to Chuck's parents' basement to play there. 137 00:08:27,674 --> 00:08:29,592 The first time I met Pierre, 138 00:08:29,593 --> 00:08:31,010 he showed up with orange hair. 139 00:08:31,011 --> 00:08:33,262 I was slightly worried. 140 00:08:33,263 --> 00:08:35,264 "Who's this new friend?" 141 00:08:35,265 --> 00:08:36,891 My teacher at school recommended like, 142 00:08:36,892 --> 00:08:38,976 "You guys should start a band, play at the talent show 143 00:08:38,977 --> 00:08:40,353 at the lunch period. 144 00:08:40,354 --> 00:08:41,604 We were like, "Yeah. 145 00:08:41,605 --> 00:08:43,439 We should be in a band together." 146 00:08:50,906 --> 00:08:53,283 Come on, what is that? 147 00:08:53,450 --> 00:08:56,118 That gave us, sort of like that little bug of like, 148 00:08:56,119 --> 00:08:58,287 "Wow, that was really fun, that was cool to have people, 149 00:08:58,288 --> 00:08:59,455 people watching." 150 00:09:05,212 --> 00:09:08,172 I remember him telling me one day, 151 00:09:08,173 --> 00:09:11,217 "I can't write love songs, I'm 16 years old!" 152 00:09:11,218 --> 00:09:14,428 {\an8}Let's get ready to rumble! 153 00:09:14,429 --> 00:09:16,722 {\an8}Reset was kind of like learning the ropes. 154 00:09:16,723 --> 00:09:19,141 I remember playing my first show my parents came to, 155 00:09:19,142 --> 00:09:20,685 there was maybe 50 people there, 156 00:09:20,686 --> 00:09:23,229 and we were terrible. I swore a lot on stage, 157 00:09:23,230 --> 00:09:26,691 I screamed, my back was to the audience, and I was just, 158 00:09:26,692 --> 00:09:28,609 "Yeah, yeah!" And I walked off stage, 159 00:09:28,610 --> 00:09:31,445 and my mom was like, "Oh, that was so bad. 160 00:09:31,446 --> 00:09:33,572 Why are you screaming so much?" 161 00:09:33,573 --> 00:09:35,449 And I was, "I don't care, that's who I am." 162 00:09:39,454 --> 00:09:43,457 The songs, I must say, were... not so great. 163 00:09:43,458 --> 00:09:47,670 They were just very wild, aggressive. 164 00:09:47,671 --> 00:09:49,880 That's what punk rock is, 165 00:09:49,881 --> 00:09:51,340 it's just giving you this confidence, 166 00:09:51,341 --> 00:09:53,217 {\an8}even though you might not necessarily 167 00:09:53,218 --> 00:09:54,802 {\an8}have that much to be confident about. 168 00:09:54,803 --> 00:09:57,221 {\an8}You're just like, "This is me, It's unapologetic. 169 00:09:57,222 --> 00:09:59,390 {\an8}Take it or leave it, I don't care." 170 00:09:59,391 --> 00:10:01,684 I guess I was a counter-culture kind of kid. 171 00:10:01,685 --> 00:10:05,479 Being in a band in Montreal that had a bit of notoriety, 172 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,066 it was really fulfilling, and it made me feel cool. 173 00:10:13,155 --> 00:10:14,989 Yeah. 174 00:10:14,990 --> 00:10:17,116 I first met the guys from Simple Plan 175 00:10:17,117 --> 00:10:20,745 when they were in their former band called Reset. 176 00:10:20,746 --> 00:10:22,330 Blink was touring, and we were kind, 177 00:10:22,331 --> 00:10:24,206 we were still a baby band, 178 00:10:24,207 --> 00:10:26,167 and we were kind of getting popular 179 00:10:26,168 --> 00:10:28,627 in south... Southern California. 180 00:10:28,628 --> 00:10:30,463 And then we were on tour, and we stopped 181 00:10:30,464 --> 00:10:34,633 at, uh, French Canada, in Quebec. 182 00:10:34,634 --> 00:10:37,261 And we got invited to play on this mini tour, 183 00:10:37,262 --> 00:10:38,513 Sno-Jam. 184 00:10:39,556 --> 00:10:42,350 And this band called Blink 182 was on it. 185 00:10:42,351 --> 00:10:45,144 We ended up talking to them, just because we were 186 00:10:45,145 --> 00:10:47,605 on that tour as well. And when they came on stage, 187 00:10:47,606 --> 00:10:49,565 all the girls lost their minds! 188 00:10:49,566 --> 00:10:51,400 Like it was, 189 00:10:51,401 --> 00:10:53,027 something was like, you could feel 190 00:10:53,028 --> 00:10:56,655 the energy shifted. They really had a buzz going on. 191 00:10:56,656 --> 00:10:58,491 Reset were a lot younger than we were, 192 00:10:58,492 --> 00:11:00,159 so I always felt like they were younger brothers. 193 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:01,869 Like, Chuck was always like my younger brother 194 00:11:01,870 --> 00:11:04,789 who I felt like I needed to watch out for. 195 00:11:04,790 --> 00:11:06,499 But I also treated him like a younger brother, 196 00:11:06,500 --> 00:11:07,958 and when he talked about his band and stuff, 197 00:11:07,959 --> 00:11:09,627 I was like, "Yeah, cool bud. Cool. 198 00:11:09,628 --> 00:11:11,379 Give it up, keep your chin up, kid!" 199 00:11:11,380 --> 00:11:14,507 And he was always just this kid that came to all the shows, 200 00:11:14,508 --> 00:11:15,841 and was a big supporter, 201 00:11:15,842 --> 00:11:18,470 and was always hyping up his own band. 202 00:11:20,680 --> 00:11:23,808 Back in the Reset days, you kicked him out? 203 00:11:23,809 --> 00:11:26,645 Yup, uh, we did. 204 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,651 We started this band when we were like 14 years old. 205 00:11:33,652 --> 00:11:37,696 And by the time we were 18, we were on tour across Canada, 206 00:11:37,697 --> 00:11:39,615 with MXPX, in tight quarters. 207 00:11:39,616 --> 00:11:41,742 You're sleeping sometimes in people's houses, 208 00:11:41,743 --> 00:11:43,202 sometimes in your own van. 209 00:11:45,747 --> 00:11:49,208 It was a lot for a bunch of kids that didn't really know 210 00:11:49,209 --> 00:11:51,335 how to appreciate each other, 211 00:11:51,336 --> 00:11:54,422 and how to give each other some space. 212 00:11:54,423 --> 00:11:56,842 And our personalities just started to clash. 213 00:11:59,803 --> 00:12:02,888 I remember having a conversation with my guitar player, Phil, 214 00:12:02,889 --> 00:12:04,598 and I think we were in a hotel room. 215 00:12:04,599 --> 00:12:06,851 And we were talking about Chuck, 216 00:12:06,852 --> 00:12:09,228 and Chuck happened to be just outside. 217 00:12:09,229 --> 00:12:11,397 And the door was closed, but I could hear them talk. 218 00:12:11,398 --> 00:12:13,149 "Fuck Chuck, we don't need him anymore, 219 00:12:13,150 --> 00:12:14,692 we're gonna be better off without him." 220 00:12:14,693 --> 00:12:16,193 And I just sat there for 40 minutes, 221 00:12:16,194 --> 00:12:18,070 while they made a whole plan about 222 00:12:18,071 --> 00:12:19,613 kicking me out of the band. 223 00:12:19,614 --> 00:12:21,574 And that they didn't, 224 00:12:21,575 --> 00:12:23,826 that I was a pain in the ass, that we're always fighting, 225 00:12:23,827 --> 00:12:26,287 and he's not that good anyways, and bla, bla, bla. 226 00:12:26,288 --> 00:12:29,039 And um, 227 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:30,875 I remember, I finally, I walked in, it's like, 228 00:12:30,876 --> 00:12:32,751 "Yeah, you don't have to kick me out, I quit." 229 00:12:32,752 --> 00:12:36,255 You know? That was my baby, I cared so much, right? 230 00:12:36,256 --> 00:12:40,551 And to have it ripped away from me was so painful. 231 00:12:40,552 --> 00:12:43,387 I mean, it's a life-defining event for me. 232 00:12:43,388 --> 00:12:46,098 I feel really bad about that conversation. 233 00:12:46,099 --> 00:12:50,436 But I think Chuck's personality, with my personality, 234 00:12:50,437 --> 00:12:55,399 needed that breakup for both of us to, uh, 235 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,693 mature a bit, and understand a little bit more 236 00:12:57,694 --> 00:13:01,530 about life in a band, and what it means to... 237 00:13:01,531 --> 00:13:04,326 compromise and sacrifice for the greater good. 238 00:13:08,288 --> 00:13:10,206 We're high school buddies. 239 00:13:10,207 --> 00:13:12,625 I was playing with Sébastien's brother 240 00:13:12,626 --> 00:13:14,752 in other bands, and we were very young. 241 00:13:14,753 --> 00:13:17,087 The guys were 13, I was 14, 242 00:13:17,088 --> 00:13:19,215 and we learned how to play music, 243 00:13:19,216 --> 00:13:21,217 you know, alongside. 244 00:13:21,218 --> 00:13:24,053 My mom bought me a guitar in sixth grade, 245 00:13:24,054 --> 00:13:26,472 and I saw Hendrix on TV, and I thought it was a cool... 246 00:13:26,473 --> 00:13:28,849 He was burning the guitar, he was not even like playing it. 247 00:13:28,850 --> 00:13:30,809 But I thought it was a powerful image. 248 00:13:30,810 --> 00:13:33,103 And it was like, I wanna do this too. 249 00:13:33,104 --> 00:13:36,398 I was angry back then. I was like, I didn't fit in, 250 00:13:36,399 --> 00:13:37,983 I just didn't really understand the world. 251 00:13:37,984 --> 00:13:41,028 I couldn't get a girlfriend. My life just didn't make sense. 252 00:13:41,029 --> 00:13:43,072 And music was my escape. 253 00:13:43,073 --> 00:13:46,992 When I heard that Chuck had been kicked out of Reset, 254 00:13:46,993 --> 00:13:49,203 I let him chill a little bit, because I knew it was 255 00:13:49,204 --> 00:13:51,163 hard for him to swallow, but I called him up, 256 00:13:51,164 --> 00:13:54,166 and I asked him if he was ready to start a new band. 257 00:13:54,167 --> 00:13:55,960 And he was like, "No, absolutely not!" 258 00:13:55,961 --> 00:13:59,505 He had stopped music, and went to law school. 259 00:13:59,506 --> 00:14:01,632 And I thought it was a shame. Chuck underplays 260 00:14:01,633 --> 00:14:03,467 his abilities as a drummer. 261 00:14:03,468 --> 00:14:05,427 He's such a great performer, 262 00:14:05,428 --> 00:14:07,846 powerful drummer. I valued that. 263 00:14:07,847 --> 00:14:09,723 And I bugged him quite a long time 264 00:14:09,724 --> 00:14:12,476 before he actually accepted to play with me. 265 00:14:12,477 --> 00:14:15,229 We just basically started jamming the two of us. 266 00:14:15,230 --> 00:14:18,524 And then I got Chuck motivated again to be in a band. 267 00:14:18,525 --> 00:14:20,276 -Jeff is intense. -Rawr! 268 00:14:20,277 --> 00:14:22,653 He has mellowed out a lot over the years, 269 00:14:22,654 --> 00:14:24,488 but when we first met, 270 00:14:24,489 --> 00:14:26,615 we would argue a lot, he was very passionate 271 00:14:26,616 --> 00:14:29,285 and, a lot of time, he would be like, 272 00:14:29,286 --> 00:14:31,328 "Fuck this, I'm leaving. I quit." 273 00:14:31,329 --> 00:14:33,622 We would have to go and calm him down, 274 00:14:33,623 --> 00:14:36,041 it's like, "C'mon, Jeff, come back." 275 00:14:36,042 --> 00:14:38,294 As far as like, being a musician, 276 00:14:38,295 --> 00:14:42,423 he was way, way ahead of all of us. 277 00:14:42,424 --> 00:14:44,842 He had just finished like, classical guitar 278 00:14:44,843 --> 00:14:47,469 at the Conservatory in Montreal, like he had an actual 279 00:14:47,470 --> 00:14:50,889 diploma in music, which we absolutely did not. 280 00:14:50,890 --> 00:14:52,600 It was just me and Jeff, and uh, 281 00:14:52,601 --> 00:14:54,101 we were looking for guitar players. 282 00:14:54,102 --> 00:14:57,146 And then, Jeff's friend was like, "Just try my brother." 283 00:14:57,147 --> 00:14:59,148 But he was two years younger than me, 284 00:14:59,149 --> 00:15:00,524 and three years younger than Jeff, 285 00:15:00,525 --> 00:15:03,444 and he had like, a little bit of a, 286 00:15:03,445 --> 00:15:04,903 at the time, 287 00:15:04,904 --> 00:15:09,117 it didn't feel like he was the coolest dude around. 288 00:15:10,744 --> 00:15:13,704 Reluctantly, we said, "Okay, we'll give him a shot." 289 00:15:15,749 --> 00:15:18,667 And I was probably 13... 12 or 13 290 00:15:18,668 --> 00:15:20,294 is when I picked up the guitar. 291 00:15:20,295 --> 00:15:21,962 It was sort of musical in the house. 292 00:15:21,963 --> 00:15:24,298 My brother showed me a couple of chords, and that was it. 293 00:15:24,299 --> 00:15:26,133 And I was just like, "Okay, I'm playing guitar." 294 00:15:26,134 --> 00:15:27,760 How did you pick up the guitar? I mean... 295 00:15:27,761 --> 00:15:29,970 I videotaped a Green Day show on TV, 296 00:15:29,971 --> 00:15:31,472 and I was just watching it and watching it, 297 00:15:31,473 --> 00:15:32,806 and did the same thing he did 298 00:15:32,807 --> 00:15:34,600 with my fingers, and I, that's how I went out... 299 00:15:34,601 --> 00:15:35,934 You figured out how to play guitar 300 00:15:35,935 --> 00:15:37,895 watching a Green Day video? -Yes. 301 00:15:37,896 --> 00:15:40,105 -You rock, dude. -Thank you, Bob Rock! 302 00:15:40,106 --> 00:15:44,568 My first memory is probably coming down the stairs 303 00:15:44,569 --> 00:15:46,403 at Chuck's parents', 304 00:15:46,404 --> 00:15:47,988 going into the basement, 305 00:15:47,989 --> 00:15:50,366 and I knew that this is where Reset was practicing before, 306 00:15:50,367 --> 00:15:52,576 and it was just like, "Okay, this is a little intimidating, 307 00:15:52,577 --> 00:15:53,786 but I can do this." 308 00:15:53,787 --> 00:15:55,621 He arrived with his guitar on his back, 309 00:15:55,622 --> 00:15:58,040 in like a soft case, rollerblading, with like, 310 00:15:58,041 --> 00:16:00,751 the Oakley sunglasses, and I was like, 311 00:16:00,752 --> 00:16:02,419 this is not gonna work out. 312 00:16:02,420 --> 00:16:04,463 It's no way this guy's in our band. 313 00:16:04,464 --> 00:16:06,048 And then, we started playing, 314 00:16:06,049 --> 00:16:07,049 Yeah! 315 00:16:07,050 --> 00:16:08,258 And man, like, he was great. 316 00:16:08,259 --> 00:16:09,968 Like, he was so solid. 317 00:16:09,969 --> 00:16:12,012 Hello, <i>caméra,</i> my name is Seb, 318 00:16:12,013 --> 00:16:13,972 and I come from Canada. 319 00:16:13,973 --> 00:16:16,059 Okay, we have our guitar player now. 320 00:16:17,644 --> 00:16:19,103 We knew the first thing we had to do 321 00:16:19,104 --> 00:16:21,438 was to get a lead singer. 322 00:16:21,439 --> 00:16:23,649 We tried so many singers. 323 00:16:23,650 --> 00:16:26,026 And in my head, having been in a band 324 00:16:26,027 --> 00:16:28,153 with Pierre, he was the bar. 325 00:16:30,532 --> 00:16:32,199 It took about two, three years of playing 326 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,993 with a lot of musicians that didn't really work out. 327 00:16:34,994 --> 00:16:38,497 Now, in hindsight, I know precisely why. 328 00:16:38,498 --> 00:16:41,834 Chuck never really saw being in a band without Pierre. 329 00:16:41,835 --> 00:16:44,962 I kept thinking, like, 330 00:16:44,963 --> 00:16:46,463 it should be Pierre. 331 00:16:46,464 --> 00:16:48,507 He's the one. 332 00:16:48,508 --> 00:16:50,551 He's the one that should be in the band. 333 00:16:50,552 --> 00:16:53,554 So I had to step on, on my ego, 334 00:16:53,555 --> 00:16:54,888 'cause we didn't talk for two years. 335 00:16:54,889 --> 00:16:56,515 Like, we were best friends in the world, 336 00:16:56,516 --> 00:16:58,350 and then we hated each other. -What the fuck? 337 00:16:58,351 --> 00:17:00,728 I bumped into Chuck, uh, a couple of years later 338 00:17:00,729 --> 00:17:02,354 at a Sugar Ray concert. 339 00:17:02,355 --> 00:17:04,773 So when I saw him, I was like, it's been two years, 340 00:17:04,774 --> 00:17:06,650 like, that's kind of stupid here, like, 341 00:17:06,651 --> 00:17:07,985 we should make amends. 342 00:17:07,986 --> 00:17:09,611 In hindsight, I think it was probably 343 00:17:09,612 --> 00:17:13,157 his plan all along to get me to join his band. 344 00:17:13,158 --> 00:17:15,200 It wasn't just like, "I want to be friends again," 345 00:17:15,201 --> 00:17:18,203 it's like, "You should be in the band, you know?" 346 00:17:18,204 --> 00:17:20,080 "You should come and play with us." 347 00:17:25,336 --> 00:17:28,380 The first riff that I had brought to the band, 348 00:17:28,381 --> 00:17:29,799 Pierre ran with it. 349 00:17:32,385 --> 00:17:34,219 I used to drive a truck for my dad, 350 00:17:34,220 --> 00:17:35,637 which would be like 14 hours in a day. 351 00:17:35,638 --> 00:17:37,848 And I put it in the tape deck, I listened to it, 352 00:17:37,849 --> 00:17:39,475 and listened to it, and listened to it. 353 00:17:39,476 --> 00:17:40,976 And then I came up with the chorus for 354 00:17:40,977 --> 00:17:41,977 "I'd Do Anything". 355 00:17:43,354 --> 00:17:45,230 Oh yeah, like, I'd do anything. 356 00:17:53,490 --> 00:17:55,991 What I was inspired by was writing songs 357 00:17:55,992 --> 00:17:59,620 about positive things, like falling in love with someone, 358 00:17:59,621 --> 00:18:03,373 because in Reset, there was not one song about girls. 359 00:18:03,374 --> 00:18:06,084 It was like about politics, and so for me 360 00:18:06,085 --> 00:18:08,003 to write a love song was like, 361 00:18:08,004 --> 00:18:10,380 wow, that's so refreshing. And I don't know 362 00:18:10,381 --> 00:18:12,549 how I came up with it, but it just kind of came out. 363 00:18:12,550 --> 00:18:15,010 He sang it, and I was like, 364 00:18:15,011 --> 00:18:16,553 "That's it, we got it." 365 00:18:16,554 --> 00:18:18,096 And that was our first song. 366 00:18:18,097 --> 00:18:20,682 Pretty much, the only song we jammed for the next month 367 00:18:20,683 --> 00:18:22,184 afterwards, you know? 368 00:18:22,185 --> 00:18:24,061 And that's how we became a band. 369 00:18:27,982 --> 00:18:30,442 Thank you for being here for our first show ever! 370 00:18:30,443 --> 00:18:33,404 -Very glad you're here! -Our first-ever show! 371 00:18:35,365 --> 00:18:37,200 {\an8}We are Simple Plan. 372 00:18:37,367 --> 00:18:39,786 {\an8}Everybody, make some noise! 373 00:19:05,228 --> 00:19:06,604 Oof! 374 00:19:20,535 --> 00:19:22,494 When your first album came out, 375 00:19:22,495 --> 00:19:24,580 I was 7 years old. Music wasn't a part of my life then. 376 00:19:24,581 --> 00:19:26,124 It all started with <i>I'd Do Anything.</i> 377 00:19:26,624 --> 00:19:29,167 I swear! I remember the feeling I had, 378 00:19:29,168 --> 00:19:31,128 sitting in the back seat of the car. 379 00:19:31,129 --> 00:19:32,630 I never liked music before that. 380 00:19:33,506 --> 00:19:35,633 My dad couldn't stand hearing you anymore. 381 00:19:39,137 --> 00:19:40,137 Nice! 382 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,222 Alright, thanks so much. 383 00:19:42,223 --> 00:19:45,851 I still have the CD my dad burned for me when I was 14. 384 00:19:45,852 --> 00:19:47,520 I still play it in my fucking car. 385 00:19:49,063 --> 00:19:51,441 I love it when you meet people who go: 386 00:19:51,858 --> 00:19:55,278 "I'm not a fan of Simple Plan, but I fucking loved Reset." 387 00:19:55,486 --> 00:19:57,246 Thanks for letting me know, bro! 388 00:19:59,198 --> 00:20:01,116 That's a small? A medium, then. 389 00:20:01,117 --> 00:20:02,660 Do you want a poutine? 390 00:20:03,286 --> 00:20:04,828 A classic? 391 00:20:04,829 --> 00:20:06,915 Two medium classic poutines, please. 392 00:20:07,540 --> 00:20:10,709 Nothing like an after-show poutine. 393 00:20:10,710 --> 00:20:13,754 That's when you know you're in your hometown, Quebec. 394 00:20:13,755 --> 00:20:15,213 To be honest, 395 00:20:15,214 --> 00:20:17,175 all my life, I heard your songs... 396 00:20:18,343 --> 00:20:20,344 and I thought you were American. 397 00:20:20,345 --> 00:20:21,762 I don't have an accent 398 00:20:21,763 --> 00:20:24,014 because I learned French and English at the same time. 399 00:20:24,015 --> 00:20:25,557 Are you Québécois? 400 00:20:25,558 --> 00:20:27,768 Yes. My mom is anglophone and my dad is francophone. 401 00:20:27,769 --> 00:20:29,895 I'm touched that you're Québécois. 402 00:20:29,896 --> 00:20:31,063 -Good night. -Take care. 403 00:20:31,064 --> 00:20:32,272 Thanks for the kind words. 404 00:20:32,273 --> 00:20:33,482 Stick around, 405 00:20:33,483 --> 00:20:34,900 we got a great show. 406 00:20:34,901 --> 00:20:36,485 Simple Plan is here. 407 00:20:36,486 --> 00:20:38,070 This is Patrick's new look. 408 00:20:38,071 --> 00:20:39,696 -How you doing? -How you doing? 409 00:20:39,697 --> 00:20:41,323 My name is Patrick Langlois, 410 00:20:41,324 --> 00:20:44,451 uh, friends with Simple Plan for over 30 years. 411 00:20:44,452 --> 00:20:46,411 I think I was their very first fan. 412 00:20:46,412 --> 00:20:49,081 I was definitely their very first employee. 413 00:20:49,082 --> 00:20:50,958 Patrick, they want a CD. 414 00:20:50,959 --> 00:20:52,918 For you, Seb. I've been waiting for you. 415 00:20:52,919 --> 00:20:54,795 And we had met this guy Pat, 416 00:20:54,796 --> 00:20:56,838 he became like my best friend, we bonded 417 00:20:56,839 --> 00:20:59,716 over our love for punk rock and Blink. 418 00:20:59,717 --> 00:21:03,553 Pat was the ever-going funny guy, 419 00:21:03,554 --> 00:21:07,182 so sure of himself, really annoying! 420 00:21:07,183 --> 00:21:09,309 The fan-proclaimed sixth member of the band. 421 00:21:09,310 --> 00:21:11,186 It's not Simple Plan, it's... 422 00:21:11,187 --> 00:21:12,729 Pat and the band! 423 00:21:12,730 --> 00:21:14,898 He took way too much space, 424 00:21:14,899 --> 00:21:16,233 did not know when to stop. 425 00:21:18,027 --> 00:21:20,696 But it brought a lot of balance, Pat was important. 426 00:21:20,697 --> 00:21:22,072 We were not great 427 00:21:22,073 --> 00:21:24,241 at stopping and enjoying the moment, you know? 428 00:21:24,242 --> 00:21:25,909 Pat was definitely great at that. 429 00:21:25,910 --> 00:21:28,245 I had a video camera. As you can probably see 430 00:21:28,246 --> 00:21:30,247 by these archives, I learned by myself. 431 00:21:31,791 --> 00:21:34,251 I am Jeff's brother, believe it or not. 432 00:21:34,252 --> 00:21:36,628 All of the best moments of my life, 433 00:21:36,629 --> 00:21:38,338 I lived with these guys. 434 00:21:38,339 --> 00:21:41,883 I got to live what it's like being in a band, 435 00:21:41,884 --> 00:21:43,928 without having learned a single note of music. 436 00:21:47,890 --> 00:21:51,018 Pierre in Simple Plan, the first shows, he was playing bass. 437 00:21:51,019 --> 00:21:53,437 And I think that they knew that they wanted 438 00:21:53,438 --> 00:21:55,772 Pierre to just have a bit more liberty on stage. 439 00:22:00,820 --> 00:22:03,822 They wanted vocal harmonies as well. 440 00:22:03,823 --> 00:22:05,574 And they're in need of a new singer, 441 00:22:05,575 --> 00:22:07,576 {\an8}they find this guy David from Matane. 442 00:22:09,912 --> 00:22:11,872 He's a super great musician, 443 00:22:11,873 --> 00:22:13,790 played drums, bass, guitar. 444 00:22:13,791 --> 00:22:16,752 He kicked my ass at guitar, I was so frustrated back then. 445 00:22:16,753 --> 00:22:19,337 David could sing, David could play bass, and so 446 00:22:19,338 --> 00:22:22,424 that just made it the perfect storm to add David to the mix. 447 00:22:22,425 --> 00:22:24,426 These are the days of our lives. 448 00:22:26,888 --> 00:22:28,722 We all, you know, got our money together, 449 00:22:28,723 --> 00:22:31,433 we went to an awesome little studio in Montreal, 450 00:22:31,434 --> 00:22:32,809 and we made a demo. 451 00:22:32,810 --> 00:22:35,020 And printed as many as we could afford, 452 00:22:35,021 --> 00:22:38,065 and then we FedExed them to the Yellow Pages of rock. 453 00:22:38,066 --> 00:22:40,276 522-♪♪♪♪. 454 00:22:40,485 --> 00:22:43,487 It was a book with every single major label. 455 00:22:43,488 --> 00:22:46,239 It had all the management companies, the agents. 456 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,366 Their addresses were listed, and their phone numbers 457 00:22:48,367 --> 00:22:49,576 were listed. 458 00:22:49,577 --> 00:22:50,994 So, it was like, well, 459 00:22:50,995 --> 00:22:52,454 I'm gonna harass every single person 460 00:22:52,455 --> 00:22:53,914 in that book! 461 00:22:53,915 --> 00:22:55,957 We have this band called Simple Plan, they're awesome! 462 00:22:55,958 --> 00:22:57,876 You have to hear them. I was collecting 463 00:22:57,877 --> 00:22:59,127 all these rejection letters, like, 464 00:22:59,128 --> 00:23:00,087 "You guys are good, 465 00:23:00,088 --> 00:23:01,713 it's not for us at this point." 466 00:23:01,714 --> 00:23:03,298 I had a nice big collection of those. 467 00:23:03,299 --> 00:23:05,467 And that lasted, probably like a year, 468 00:23:05,468 --> 00:23:07,010 or a year and a half. 469 00:23:07,011 --> 00:23:08,720 Because six months later, nothing was happening 470 00:23:08,721 --> 00:23:10,889 with the band. And I went back to school 471 00:23:10,890 --> 00:23:12,933 for like a couple of classes, just to, you know, 472 00:23:12,934 --> 00:23:15,769 say that I wasn't just sitting on my couch doing nothing. 473 00:23:15,770 --> 00:23:17,729 I'd just dropped out of school, 474 00:23:17,730 --> 00:23:19,689 and my parents were like "You're not gonna sleep" 475 00:23:19,690 --> 00:23:21,525 until noon and do nothing all day, 476 00:23:21,526 --> 00:23:24,236 "You're gonna work, you're gonna be proactive about this band." 477 00:23:24,237 --> 00:23:26,863 So, every day, I would wake up and I would do that. 478 00:23:26,864 --> 00:23:30,993 I'm committed to this band, 100%. I will do anything... 479 00:23:32,036 --> 00:23:35,455 to bring it to the top of the charts, 480 00:23:35,456 --> 00:23:37,708 top of the pop, motherfuckers! 481 00:23:39,001 --> 00:23:41,211 {\an8}Melbourne, Australia! 482 00:23:41,212 --> 00:23:43,547 {\an8}Jump! 483 00:23:51,347 --> 00:23:52,681 Get the fuck up! 484 00:23:52,682 --> 00:23:54,475 Uh, just starting to walk now. 485 00:23:55,935 --> 00:23:57,394 Who's locking all these doors? 486 00:24:49,113 --> 00:24:50,739 Eric, you're looking good today. 487 00:24:50,740 --> 00:24:52,199 Thank you. 488 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,320 Why don't you give us your best camera face? 489 00:24:54,952 --> 00:24:56,286 Is that it? 490 00:24:56,287 --> 00:24:57,954 Someone kept calling the office saying, 491 00:24:57,955 --> 00:24:59,915 "I'm the manager for Simple Plan, 492 00:24:59,916 --> 00:25:01,541 my name is Charles. 493 00:25:01,542 --> 00:25:04,294 I really think that this band is something special, 494 00:25:04,295 --> 00:25:06,087 but we need help outside of Quebec, 495 00:25:06,088 --> 00:25:09,132 "and can you listen to our music? You know, it's pop-punk." 496 00:25:09,133 --> 00:25:11,509 And, dude, I don't like pop-punk. 497 00:25:11,510 --> 00:25:13,511 I said, why don't we do this. Invite these guys 498 00:25:13,512 --> 00:25:15,472 to come to Toronto, they're gonna probably suck, 499 00:25:15,473 --> 00:25:17,015 and then I can tell them to go home 500 00:25:17,016 --> 00:25:18,391 and they'll stop bugging us and everything, 501 00:25:18,392 --> 00:25:19,684 and we can carry on with our lives. 502 00:25:21,729 --> 00:25:24,022 And they set up. I'm sure my face was like this. 503 00:25:24,023 --> 00:25:25,023 Like... 504 00:25:27,235 --> 00:25:28,860 And then they started playing, 505 00:25:28,861 --> 00:25:31,029 and I'm like, looking around, like... 506 00:25:31,030 --> 00:25:32,280 Fuck, these guys are good. 507 00:25:38,371 --> 00:25:41,248 Everything that you see on stage now was going on. 508 00:25:41,249 --> 00:25:43,084 Two minutes, changed my mind completely. 509 00:25:46,879 --> 00:25:47,963 Whoo! 510 00:25:49,257 --> 00:25:50,632 And then I said to them like, 511 00:25:50,633 --> 00:25:52,592 "Hey, where is this manager, 512 00:25:52,593 --> 00:25:54,053 like, I only see band guys. 513 00:25:54,887 --> 00:25:56,471 Chuck puts his hand up. 514 00:25:56,472 --> 00:25:58,515 He goes, "I figured that if I called the office, 515 00:25:58,516 --> 00:26:00,642 I would get some respect if I said I was the manager 516 00:26:00,643 --> 00:26:01,935 instead of the drummer." 517 00:26:01,936 --> 00:26:03,271 And I instantly liked Chuck. 518 00:26:04,146 --> 00:26:06,314 So we're like maybe a year, year and a half 519 00:26:06,315 --> 00:26:08,233 into the band. For us, in our heads, 520 00:26:08,234 --> 00:26:10,527 it's been a long time. We've been working hard 521 00:26:10,528 --> 00:26:13,196 at this thing, and we're a bit desperate 522 00:26:13,197 --> 00:26:14,990 for something, for the next step to happen. 523 00:26:14,991 --> 00:26:18,493 And we were still missing the record label part. 524 00:26:18,494 --> 00:26:20,578 And Eric Lawrence had a really good relationship 525 00:26:20,579 --> 00:26:22,289 with Sony Canada. We played for them, 526 00:26:22,290 --> 00:26:24,082 we showed them our songs. 527 00:26:24,083 --> 00:26:25,583 And they were really interested. 528 00:26:25,584 --> 00:26:27,168 So finally, they're like, 529 00:26:27,169 --> 00:26:29,088 "This is it, we're gonna sign you guys." 530 00:26:30,631 --> 00:26:34,051 So they're drawing up the contracts and everything. 531 00:26:36,137 --> 00:26:38,680 And then out of nowhere, 532 00:26:38,681 --> 00:26:40,849 Sony Canada's president gets fired. 533 00:26:40,850 --> 00:26:43,351 And this new person comes in, and she's like, 534 00:26:43,352 --> 00:26:46,438 "I'm not feeling that band. I don't like it, 535 00:26:46,439 --> 00:26:48,356 I'm not signing you guys." 536 00:26:48,357 --> 00:26:50,817 And that was a huge blow 537 00:26:50,818 --> 00:26:51,985 for the band and for me personally, 538 00:26:51,986 --> 00:26:54,654 'cause I was trying to tell my parents, 539 00:26:54,655 --> 00:26:56,072 "Hey, it's happening, look I told you, 540 00:26:56,073 --> 00:26:57,991 like, it was a good idea to drop out of school, 541 00:26:57,992 --> 00:27:02,037 like, this is gonna work." And then, boom, like, 542 00:27:02,038 --> 00:27:03,330 a huge slap in the face, 543 00:27:03,331 --> 00:27:05,081 like, we're not getting signed anymore. 544 00:27:10,087 --> 00:27:12,130 Out of nowhere, 545 00:27:12,131 --> 00:27:14,424 Patrick got a job at Aquarius Records, 546 00:27:14,425 --> 00:27:17,135 as an intern, or something like that, and he calls me up, 547 00:27:17,136 --> 00:27:20,096 and he's like, "Dude, you're not gonna believe what's happening." 548 00:27:20,097 --> 00:27:21,890 {\an8}Andy Karp from Atlantic Records was gonna 549 00:27:21,891 --> 00:27:24,059 {\an8}be coming into town to see another band 550 00:27:24,060 --> 00:27:25,935 {\an8}that was signed to the record label I worked with. 551 00:27:25,936 --> 00:27:27,562 We organized kind of a secret show 552 00:27:27,563 --> 00:27:29,606 to make sure that Andy could go see them. 553 00:27:29,607 --> 00:27:32,150 Patrick's been pretty useless up until now. 554 00:27:32,151 --> 00:27:34,277 The problem for us was that, 555 00:27:34,278 --> 00:27:35,737 it was four days out. 556 00:27:35,738 --> 00:27:38,406 We basically had to call every single bar in Montreal 557 00:27:38,407 --> 00:27:39,616 to find a spot. 558 00:27:39,617 --> 00:27:41,493 We had nowhere to play, we had nothing. 559 00:27:41,494 --> 00:27:43,161 Didn't have an audience, right? 560 00:27:43,162 --> 00:27:46,039 Uh, so we called up all our friends and told them, 561 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:47,916 two dollar beers. Let's go! 562 00:27:47,917 --> 00:27:49,918 {\an8}-Say whoa! -Woo! 563 00:27:49,919 --> 00:27:51,503 {\an8}Okay, this one's called "Anything". 564 00:27:51,504 --> 00:27:52,712 {\an8}It's an old song. 565 00:27:52,713 --> 00:27:54,839 {\an8}It's pretty rocking. If you wanna dance, 566 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,592 you come on down, you dance with me, you ready? 567 00:27:57,593 --> 00:27:58,635 Chuck? 568 00:27:58,636 --> 00:27:59,719 I'm fucking ready, man! 569 00:28:01,305 --> 00:28:03,348 And at the time, it felt desperate. 570 00:28:03,349 --> 00:28:05,266 It felt like, if this doesn't work, 571 00:28:05,267 --> 00:28:07,018 maybe this is it, it's not gonna work for us, 572 00:28:07,019 --> 00:28:08,895 it's not meant to be. 573 00:28:08,896 --> 00:28:11,231 And we were playing the same songs over and over, 574 00:28:11,232 --> 00:28:14,317 stopping, drinking with them, mingling, 575 00:28:14,318 --> 00:28:15,735 but we had someone at the door, 576 00:28:15,736 --> 00:28:17,488 waiting for Andy Karp to come in. 577 00:28:19,407 --> 00:28:21,991 I was at dinner with Andy Karp, under disguise, 578 00:28:21,992 --> 00:28:23,785 'cause I'm working for the other record label, 579 00:28:23,786 --> 00:28:25,370 and I'm texting Chuck, we're still at dinner. 580 00:28:25,371 --> 00:28:27,580 You need to push the showcase back. 581 00:28:27,581 --> 00:28:28,998 The owner's like, 582 00:28:28,999 --> 00:28:31,376 "It's 10:30, get on stage. What are you doing?" 583 00:28:36,674 --> 00:28:39,301 And then this guy finally walks into the door. 584 00:28:43,055 --> 00:28:45,098 We gave it everything we had. 585 00:28:45,099 --> 00:28:46,683 Everybody was hammered. 586 00:28:46,684 --> 00:28:48,476 We had handed out lyrics sheets 587 00:28:48,477 --> 00:28:51,688 to everybody, so everybody knew the lyrics to the songs. 588 00:28:51,689 --> 00:28:55,817 And it looked like the craziest show you could ever imagine. 589 00:28:55,818 --> 00:28:57,152 It was all our friends. 590 00:28:57,153 --> 00:28:59,654 We played our hearts out. Like, 591 00:28:59,655 --> 00:29:03,324 it felt like it was the last chance. 592 00:29:09,165 --> 00:29:10,915 After the show, 593 00:29:10,916 --> 00:29:13,209 we sat down and he asked us all these questions, 594 00:29:13,210 --> 00:29:14,836 like what's your vision for the band, 595 00:29:14,837 --> 00:29:16,463 what kind of record do you want to make? 596 00:29:16,464 --> 00:29:17,672 He's like, thank you so much, guys, 597 00:29:17,673 --> 00:29:18,923 appreciated it, thanks for the time. 598 00:29:18,924 --> 00:29:20,216 And the next day at the airport, 599 00:29:20,217 --> 00:29:22,051 he called Rob, and he says like, 600 00:29:22,052 --> 00:29:23,887 "Let's make a record. I'm signing Simple Plan." 601 00:29:23,888 --> 00:29:25,054 Sorry, 602 00:29:25,055 --> 00:29:26,514 I'm getting emotional to think about it, 603 00:29:26,515 --> 00:29:27,808 but yeah. 604 00:29:30,060 --> 00:29:32,187 -You can have a seat. -Thank you. 605 00:29:32,188 --> 00:29:34,022 -Thank you. -You're welcome. 606 00:29:34,023 --> 00:29:36,858 I'm a municipal lawyer in Québec. 607 00:29:36,859 --> 00:29:38,526 We're signing a contract! 608 00:29:38,527 --> 00:29:40,403 I read his contract... 609 00:29:40,404 --> 00:29:41,946 I didn't understand much. 610 00:29:41,947 --> 00:29:44,240 But one thing struck me: 611 00:29:44,241 --> 00:29:47,161 The world." 612 00:29:47,620 --> 00:29:49,204 It worked, you know? 613 00:29:49,205 --> 00:29:51,164 And I think it worked because 614 00:29:51,165 --> 00:29:53,500 it was coming from our hearts, you know? 615 00:29:53,501 --> 00:29:55,001 And it was real. 616 00:29:55,002 --> 00:29:56,252 And he could feel it. 617 00:29:56,253 --> 00:29:57,837 And he said, like, "When I sign bands," 618 00:29:57,838 --> 00:29:59,881 I sign bands that I feel 619 00:29:59,882 --> 00:30:01,674 could be somebody's favorite band. 620 00:30:04,178 --> 00:30:06,554 Could this band's poster be in somebody's room? 621 00:30:06,555 --> 00:30:09,015 They got their contract and he was 21 years old 622 00:30:09,016 --> 00:30:10,099 and that was it. 623 00:30:11,519 --> 00:30:14,270 Atlantic Records, you want the best, 624 00:30:14,271 --> 00:30:15,730 you deserve the best. 625 00:30:15,731 --> 00:30:19,025 {\an8}Those guys weren't available tonight, so instead, 626 00:30:19,026 --> 00:30:20,693 {\an8}we're gonna have Simple Plan! Give it up! 627 00:30:22,071 --> 00:30:24,031 That's a fucking money shot! 628 00:30:26,742 --> 00:30:28,743 That's right, that's what I'm talking about. 629 00:30:28,744 --> 00:30:30,912 All of a sudden, we were making an album! 630 00:30:30,913 --> 00:30:32,789 I'm here in Toronto, where Simple Plan are recording 631 00:30:32,790 --> 00:30:35,625 their debut record. How have you been, bro? Okay! 632 00:30:35,626 --> 00:30:37,460 They've got a big-screen TV. There's Chuck, 633 00:30:37,461 --> 00:30:38,711 he's on the computer. Oh my God, 634 00:30:38,712 --> 00:30:40,129 they got a kitchen here. 635 00:30:40,130 --> 00:30:41,756 So this is Chuck going to bed right now. 636 00:30:41,757 --> 00:30:43,633 Normally, the bands, they don't want 637 00:30:43,634 --> 00:30:46,052 to work as hard. But these guys did. 638 00:30:46,053 --> 00:30:47,262 What's wrong with you? 639 00:30:47,263 --> 00:30:48,638 What the fuck are you looking at? 640 00:30:52,142 --> 00:30:54,603 Fuck. Let's do it again. 641 00:30:55,312 --> 00:30:57,188 One more. 642 00:30:57,189 --> 00:30:58,398 Let's do it again. 643 00:30:58,399 --> 00:30:59,816 I'm getting there! 644 00:30:59,817 --> 00:31:02,235 Most challenging musical experience of my life, for sure. 645 00:31:02,236 --> 00:31:04,821 Hey not so Simple Plan, I'll be back in a few minutes. 646 00:31:04,822 --> 00:31:06,197 Alright, see you later. 647 00:31:06,198 --> 00:31:07,198 Alright. 648 00:31:07,199 --> 00:31:08,283 Making the first record, 649 00:31:08,284 --> 00:31:09,701 it was like playing tug of war 650 00:31:09,702 --> 00:31:11,286 with Arnold Lanni, the producer. 651 00:31:11,287 --> 00:31:13,621 We always had an opinion about how something should sound, 652 00:31:13,622 --> 00:31:17,208 how we should record it, and he was always saying, 653 00:31:17,209 --> 00:31:19,252 "No, let's do it this way instead." 654 00:31:19,253 --> 00:31:21,379 And it was really hard for a young band 655 00:31:21,380 --> 00:31:24,882 to always feel like it was us against him. 656 00:31:24,883 --> 00:31:26,593 Okay, enough of this shit, let's go. 657 00:31:26,594 --> 00:31:28,720 We wanted to be a Warped Tour band, 658 00:31:28,721 --> 00:31:30,680 and Arnold, he wanted to turn us into 659 00:31:30,681 --> 00:31:32,890 like, this quirky, power pop band. 660 00:31:32,891 --> 00:31:35,476 I think they came into it with the right attitude, 661 00:31:35,477 --> 00:31:37,478 but they underestimated 662 00:31:37,479 --> 00:31:40,189 just how much I was gonna kick their ass. 663 00:31:40,190 --> 00:31:42,817 Now, 25 years later, 664 00:31:42,818 --> 00:31:44,902 I feel like the approach could have been different. 665 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:47,447 We were going a little crazy. 666 00:31:47,448 --> 00:31:48,781 We would work all day, 667 00:31:48,782 --> 00:31:50,283 and he would come in and listen to something, 668 00:31:50,284 --> 00:31:51,492 "I don't like it, do it again." 669 00:31:56,540 --> 00:31:58,249 Do it again, do it again, do it again. 670 00:31:58,250 --> 00:32:00,376 We'd be like, ah, fucking Arnold, he's crazy. 671 00:32:00,377 --> 00:32:01,753 Why does he want us to do that? 672 00:32:01,754 --> 00:32:03,087 I've been here for six months. 673 00:32:03,088 --> 00:32:04,839 How many takes did you guys do yesterday? 674 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,592 Eight thousand. And now we're realizing that they all suck. 675 00:32:07,593 --> 00:32:10,011 -I put them up in my studio. -This is what Simple Plan 676 00:32:10,012 --> 00:32:11,471 does in the studio. Look at this. 677 00:32:11,472 --> 00:32:13,598 -No, it's not! -It was like a frat house. 678 00:32:13,599 --> 00:32:15,391 We're just a bunch of lonely guys in here! 679 00:32:15,392 --> 00:32:17,185 Party until three in the morning, go to sleep, 680 00:32:17,186 --> 00:32:18,519 and then wake up and start it again. 681 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:19,812 -How's it going? -Good. 682 00:32:19,813 --> 00:32:21,189 They're all still asleep. 683 00:32:21,190 --> 00:32:22,231 Every day. 684 00:32:27,029 --> 00:32:28,363 Woo! 685 00:32:28,364 --> 00:32:31,074 Dude, we must have re-recorded that album 686 00:32:31,075 --> 00:32:32,825 20 times? Maybe more. 687 00:32:32,826 --> 00:32:36,245 Looking back, I think that might have created some of the magic 688 00:32:36,246 --> 00:32:38,539 of what that first record is. 689 00:32:38,540 --> 00:32:41,042 The way we care about harmony, uh, 690 00:32:41,043 --> 00:32:42,543 the way we care about melody. 691 00:32:42,544 --> 00:32:45,047 That stems from working with Arnold. 692 00:32:46,715 --> 00:32:48,883 I don't remember the first time that I heard 693 00:32:48,884 --> 00:32:50,843 "I'd Do Anything", 694 00:32:50,844 --> 00:32:53,388 but it was far beyond 695 00:32:53,389 --> 00:32:55,139 what they had been doing in Reset. 696 00:32:55,140 --> 00:32:56,474 And so from the beginning, I was like, 697 00:32:56,475 --> 00:32:58,393 that song has something special about 698 00:32:58,394 --> 00:32:59,519 it, keep doing that. 699 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,896 I'm sitting in my parents' basement, 700 00:33:01,897 --> 00:33:03,314 and I get this email. 701 00:33:03,315 --> 00:33:04,607 "Hey Chuck, I've been listening 702 00:33:04,608 --> 00:33:06,567 to your demo all day, and right now, 703 00:33:06,568 --> 00:33:08,695 "I'd Do Anything" is my favorite song. 704 00:33:08,696 --> 00:33:12,365 Let me know whatever I can do to help you guys out, I will. 705 00:33:12,366 --> 00:33:14,492 I think I made a conference call with everyone, 706 00:33:14,493 --> 00:33:15,952 reading them the email. 707 00:33:15,953 --> 00:33:17,787 I just thought that I was helping out my friends, 708 00:33:17,788 --> 00:33:19,956 and it's kind of what people in punk rock did. 709 00:33:19,957 --> 00:33:21,999 Like, that's what I love about the punk rock community 710 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,460 is that when a band gets some shine 711 00:33:24,461 --> 00:33:26,337 and gets some light on them, they bring their friends. 712 00:33:26,338 --> 00:33:28,005 And Simple Plan was one of the first bands 713 00:33:28,006 --> 00:33:29,424 that I felt like I could help out. 714 00:33:29,425 --> 00:33:30,925 -What are we doing? -Oh, we're going 715 00:33:30,926 --> 00:33:32,510 to this place called Studio West. 716 00:33:32,511 --> 00:33:33,720 We'll have Mark Hoppus, 717 00:33:33,721 --> 00:33:35,179 from a small band called Blink 182, 718 00:33:35,180 --> 00:33:37,223 sing on the record. It's gonna be wicked. 719 00:33:37,224 --> 00:33:39,350 Chuck has said, "Oh, we're tracking this song, 720 00:33:39,351 --> 00:33:41,185 and we'd love to have you on it." 721 00:33:41,186 --> 00:33:42,478 And I was like, "Oh cool, yeah, 722 00:33:42,479 --> 00:33:45,148 if you can get out here, uh, sure, I'll do it." 723 00:33:45,149 --> 00:33:47,734 I kind of made it a little difficult, 724 00:33:47,735 --> 00:33:49,360 and then he flew his ass out. 725 00:33:49,361 --> 00:33:52,071 He showed up in San Diego and made it happen. 726 00:33:52,072 --> 00:33:53,698 Chuck's about to call Mr. Hoppus... 727 00:33:53,699 --> 00:33:55,074 Don't film me! 728 00:33:55,075 --> 00:33:56,868 We are, we are in San Diego, yes, we are. 729 00:33:56,869 --> 00:33:59,537 It was kind of like stepping into a world 730 00:33:59,538 --> 00:34:02,665 that we so wanted to be a part of. 731 00:34:02,666 --> 00:34:04,293 I'm so stressed out. 732 00:34:04,877 --> 00:34:06,003 -You? -Yeah. 733 00:34:10,048 --> 00:34:11,591 How'd that feel for you? 734 00:34:11,592 --> 00:34:13,259 Like a big shit burger. 735 00:34:13,260 --> 00:34:14,635 Okay, so let's do it again. 736 00:34:14,636 --> 00:34:17,180 They directed me how to sing it, 737 00:34:17,181 --> 00:34:18,639 and so I sang it. 738 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,726 Follow the rhythm, go, "Put you in the past". 739 00:34:25,189 --> 00:34:27,690 Yeah, that's gonna sound good. We just gotta nail it. 740 00:34:27,691 --> 00:34:29,525 And again, when I think about it now, 741 00:34:29,526 --> 00:34:31,444 like, he had no reason to do this. 742 00:34:31,445 --> 00:34:33,362 I think it changed everything for us. 743 00:34:38,243 --> 00:34:39,786 Then we had to make a music video, 744 00:34:39,787 --> 00:34:42,872 and again, we had to ask for one more favor. 745 00:34:42,873 --> 00:34:45,458 It's like, hey, you sang on the song, now, 746 00:34:45,459 --> 00:34:48,544 would you be in the music video? 747 00:34:48,545 --> 00:34:50,421 I feel like every time I call Mark, it's for like, 748 00:34:50,422 --> 00:34:52,840 "Hey, could you help us?" I feel fucking terrible. 749 00:34:52,841 --> 00:34:54,717 Chuck was like, "Oh, we're doing the video 750 00:34:54,718 --> 00:34:57,512 for 'I'd Do Anything', and uh, we want you to be in it." 751 00:34:57,513 --> 00:34:59,680 And I was like, "Oh, I'm busy, I'm on tour." 752 00:34:59,681 --> 00:35:02,850 And then, uh, I was like, "Oh, but you know, 753 00:35:02,851 --> 00:35:04,769 we're playing a show in Cleveland, 754 00:35:04,770 --> 00:35:06,395 maybe if you guys could get to Cleveland 755 00:35:06,396 --> 00:35:07,897 and make it happen, we can do that." 756 00:35:07,898 --> 00:35:09,816 And he got his ass to Cleveland! 757 00:35:09,817 --> 00:35:12,235 With a fucking crew and everything. 758 00:35:12,236 --> 00:35:15,905 Gonna shoot a video today. This is where we shoot. 759 00:35:15,906 --> 00:35:17,907 And they're like, "Okay, the shoots tomorrow 760 00:35:17,908 --> 00:35:20,284 at whatever it was, two o'clock in the afternoon." 761 00:35:20,285 --> 00:35:22,495 And I was like, "What do you mean, tomorrow? 762 00:35:22,496 --> 00:35:24,038 I'm in Cleveland." And they're like, "Yeah, 763 00:35:24,039 --> 00:35:25,790 we got the crew and everything, it's all set up, 764 00:35:25,791 --> 00:35:27,458 "we got a location, you just have to be there." 765 00:35:27,459 --> 00:35:29,418 And I was like, "Goddamnit! Okay, fine." 766 00:35:29,419 --> 00:35:31,337 Showed up, and it actually turned out really cool, 767 00:35:31,338 --> 00:35:32,672 but again, it's Chuck just taking the ball 768 00:35:32,673 --> 00:35:34,507 and running with it. 769 00:35:42,099 --> 00:35:44,100 It was the seal of approval, 770 00:35:44,101 --> 00:35:46,936 of the biggest band, 771 00:35:46,937 --> 00:35:49,314 the most credible band in pop-punk. 772 00:35:49,857 --> 00:35:51,107 Look at the camera. 773 00:35:51,108 --> 00:35:52,316 Ohh! 774 00:35:52,317 --> 00:35:53,442 Look at the camera, guys. 775 00:35:53,443 --> 00:35:54,277 What the fuck! 776 00:35:54,278 --> 00:35:55,653 This is Seb Lefebvre, 777 00:35:55,654 --> 00:35:57,154 reporting for Simple Plan.com 778 00:35:57,155 --> 00:35:58,573 -Revenge! -Almost died. 779 00:35:58,574 --> 00:35:59,574 We almost died. 780 00:35:59,575 --> 00:36:01,033 We're filming a movie right now. 781 00:36:02,327 --> 00:36:03,578 It took forever. 782 00:36:03,579 --> 00:36:05,955 Over a year to record that first album. 783 00:36:05,956 --> 00:36:08,958 And we wanted to play shows. We were ready. 784 00:36:08,959 --> 00:36:11,168 As soon as we were done with the album, 785 00:36:11,169 --> 00:36:13,838 and the mixes were done, and that the mastering was done, 786 00:36:13,839 --> 00:36:15,756 we went on tour with Sugar Ray. 787 00:36:15,757 --> 00:36:17,216 {\an8}We're going to Chicago tomorrow 788 00:36:17,217 --> 00:36:18,593 {\an8}to play with Sugar Ray. 789 00:36:18,594 --> 00:36:20,636 {\an8}A lot of people are counting on you 790 00:36:20,637 --> 00:36:25,224 {\an8}to put the Montreal punk rock scene on the map. 791 00:36:25,225 --> 00:36:28,562 They'll be famous everywhere in North America! 792 00:36:30,898 --> 00:36:32,773 Hey, what's up, everybody? It's Mark McGrath, 793 00:36:32,774 --> 00:36:35,151 from the band Sugar Ray, off the charts 794 00:36:35,152 --> 00:36:37,695 but always in our hearts. 795 00:36:37,696 --> 00:36:40,740 And the first time I ever heard about Simple Plan was from um, 796 00:36:40,741 --> 00:36:44,327 our record label at the time. We were doing a college tour, 797 00:36:44,328 --> 00:36:46,078 and I thought it would be perfect for them. 798 00:36:46,079 --> 00:36:47,955 You know, young, teenage audiences, 799 00:36:47,956 --> 00:36:49,665 I think this would be a good match. 800 00:36:49,666 --> 00:36:52,001 I think it was a great way to kick it off. 801 00:36:52,002 --> 00:36:54,879 We had just gotten signed, the record was coming out 802 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,172 a couple of weeks later. 803 00:36:56,173 --> 00:36:58,090 So having this tour with Sugar Ray 804 00:36:58,091 --> 00:36:59,759 was just like, this is good times. 805 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,053 There was two legs to this tour, 806 00:37:02,054 --> 00:37:03,471 it was three weeks and three weeks. 807 00:37:03,472 --> 00:37:06,182 The first bit of it, we did in a Winnebago, 808 00:37:06,183 --> 00:37:07,600 with Pierre's dad driving us. 809 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:14,680 I'll turn that off. 810 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,276 Is nobody gonna save me? 811 00:37:22,824 --> 00:37:24,158 Sorry. 812 00:37:24,159 --> 00:37:25,368 Is that your ringtone? 813 00:37:25,369 --> 00:37:26,369 Yes! 814 00:37:27,621 --> 00:37:28,913 On our first tour, 815 00:37:28,914 --> 00:37:30,748 I had told my parents we were gonna rent a van, 816 00:37:30,749 --> 00:37:32,458 with a trailer in the back, and we're gonna be 817 00:37:32,459 --> 00:37:34,794 driving, a lot of times through the night. 818 00:37:34,795 --> 00:37:37,213 And my dad at the dinner table one day, he said like, 819 00:37:37,214 --> 00:37:38,673 "Oh, I can drive you guys, you know." 820 00:37:38,674 --> 00:37:41,175 And my mom was like, "Oh Réal", 821 00:37:41,176 --> 00:37:42,969 you're not gonna drive these kids. 822 00:37:42,970 --> 00:37:44,887 "You could never do it." And then, my dad's like... 823 00:37:44,888 --> 00:37:46,597 "Of course, I could!" 824 00:37:46,598 --> 00:37:49,016 -Rock and roll! -You ready to go? 825 00:37:49,017 --> 00:37:50,851 Yes sir! Let 'er go! 826 00:37:50,852 --> 00:37:52,645 For the record, that's not my dad! 827 00:37:54,940 --> 00:37:56,233 Hey, Pierre! 828 00:37:56,650 --> 00:37:58,317 We got Pierre's dad handling the map. 829 00:37:58,318 --> 00:38:00,152 Where we're going, Peoria. 830 00:38:00,153 --> 00:38:02,738 We cross the border, going into the United States 831 00:38:02,739 --> 00:38:04,532 for the beginning of the tour, and in the front seat 832 00:38:04,533 --> 00:38:05,783 is my dad driving. 833 00:38:05,784 --> 00:38:07,451 And we pull up at two in the morning, 834 00:38:07,452 --> 00:38:09,620 at the border crossing, my dad opens the window. 835 00:38:09,621 --> 00:38:11,163 Where are you going? 836 00:38:11,164 --> 00:38:12,625 I'm going to Peoria, Illinois. 837 00:38:12,708 --> 00:38:14,166 "And what are you going there for?" 838 00:38:14,167 --> 00:38:18,212 And my dad, super excited to be there, says, 839 00:38:18,213 --> 00:38:20,423 "We're in a rock band!" 840 00:38:20,424 --> 00:38:23,300 The customs officer looks at my dad in this big RV, 841 00:38:23,301 --> 00:38:27,513 and he's like, "You know what? Just go ahead." 842 00:38:27,514 --> 00:38:29,849 Out here, first Sugar Ray date. 843 00:38:29,850 --> 00:38:31,934 Perori, Peoria, Illinois. 844 00:38:31,935 --> 00:38:36,147 That's our ride. And this is not. 845 00:38:36,148 --> 00:38:37,898 It's called the automatic hair spikers. 846 00:38:37,899 --> 00:38:39,817 Alright! Ready to play a show. 847 00:38:39,818 --> 00:38:43,571 They were like little puppies let out of an RV, 848 00:38:43,572 --> 00:38:46,407 ready to take on the world and have their dream come true. 849 00:38:46,408 --> 00:38:48,075 First night of the Sugar Ray tour, I swear, 850 00:38:48,076 --> 00:38:49,535 Simple Plan are gonna make it or break it. 851 00:38:49,536 --> 00:38:51,872 -Break a leg. -We will. 852 00:38:52,789 --> 00:38:54,623 Hey, what's up Peoria! 853 00:38:59,713 --> 00:39:03,174 We went on tour with Sugar Ray, and nobody knew who we were. 854 00:39:03,175 --> 00:39:05,217 {\an8}They're from Montreal, Canada. 855 00:39:05,218 --> 00:39:06,635 {\an8}Their record's coming out tomorrow, 856 00:39:06,636 --> 00:39:09,305 {\an8}and, you know, you couldn't meet 857 00:39:09,306 --> 00:39:11,182 a cooler group of guys, man. 858 00:39:11,183 --> 00:39:12,642 Give it up for Simple Plan. 859 00:39:13,685 --> 00:39:15,561 We're going to buy our record. 860 00:39:15,562 --> 00:39:17,104 'Cause it came out today! 861 00:39:17,105 --> 00:39:18,705 I want one record today, one! 862 00:39:21,318 --> 00:39:23,986 We might not have it. What was the name of the album? 863 00:39:23,987 --> 00:39:27,656 Uh, "No Pads, No Helmets, Just Balls." Simple Plan. 864 00:39:27,657 --> 00:39:29,116 That's the name of the band. 865 00:39:31,078 --> 00:39:33,079 Doesn't look too good, eh? 866 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,122 Gimme one second, okay? 867 00:39:35,123 --> 00:39:37,208 If you guys don't have it, you're in trouble. 868 00:39:37,209 --> 00:39:40,169 The album came out, it was such an underwhelming 869 00:39:40,170 --> 00:39:42,505 moment, very anticlimactic. 870 00:39:42,506 --> 00:39:44,465 It was not available. 871 00:39:44,466 --> 00:39:46,509 It just wasn't going well at all. 872 00:39:46,510 --> 00:39:49,345 "I'm Just A Kid" came out, and it's stiff. 873 00:39:49,346 --> 00:39:52,849 It tanked so bad, like, no radio station played it. 874 00:39:54,434 --> 00:39:56,102 I think we were realistic about it, we knew 875 00:39:56,103 --> 00:39:58,437 the record was gonna come out, and it wasn't gonna be a hit 876 00:39:58,438 --> 00:40:00,731 right away, we had to turn it into a hit. 877 00:40:00,732 --> 00:40:03,067 I think getting a record deal and putting out a record, 878 00:40:03,068 --> 00:40:04,318 that's the starting line. 879 00:40:04,319 --> 00:40:05,945 What is your simple plan? 880 00:40:05,946 --> 00:40:08,030 -Where do you guys want to be? -Just more touring. 881 00:40:08,031 --> 00:40:09,990 We're leaving on tour, once again. 882 00:40:09,991 --> 00:40:11,992 -That's right. -I have to drive this, 883 00:40:11,993 --> 00:40:13,369 we're gonna die. 884 00:40:13,370 --> 00:40:14,870 Very slowly, they had to, 885 00:40:14,871 --> 00:40:16,956 to just keep pushing and keep working, 886 00:40:16,957 --> 00:40:18,624 and nothing came easy. 887 00:40:18,625 --> 00:40:20,501 And they worked, they worked. 888 00:40:20,502 --> 00:40:22,378 We were just chasing opportunities. 889 00:40:22,379 --> 00:40:24,088 So it was very all over the map, 890 00:40:24,089 --> 00:40:25,673 we were travelling quite a bit. 891 00:40:25,674 --> 00:40:28,884 And we would do promo tours, live shows. 892 00:40:28,885 --> 00:40:30,886 It was very chaotic, not very organized. 893 00:40:30,887 --> 00:40:32,429 That's us 894 00:40:32,430 --> 00:40:33,807 running out of gas. 895 00:40:35,058 --> 00:40:36,600 Whatcha doing there? 896 00:40:36,601 --> 00:40:38,727 It was no plan, we would just grab whatever 897 00:40:38,728 --> 00:40:40,813 was coming our way. Nobody knew us, 898 00:40:40,814 --> 00:40:43,065 we were a brand new band, and we were starting to play 899 00:40:43,066 --> 00:40:45,192 on a few radio stations here and there. 900 00:40:45,193 --> 00:40:47,778 I remember, we were on the Pop Disaster tour, 901 00:40:47,779 --> 00:40:49,405 which was Blink and Green Day. 902 00:40:51,658 --> 00:40:53,576 I think they played in the parking lots. 903 00:40:53,577 --> 00:40:56,496 How's it going in the parking lot? Yeah! 904 00:40:58,248 --> 00:41:00,332 {\an8}Before people got into the venue, 905 00:41:00,333 --> 00:41:03,752 {\an8}they had built this little stage in the parking lot. 906 00:41:03,753 --> 00:41:06,172 And we were the band playing there. 907 00:41:06,173 --> 00:41:08,632 We actually were walking around with Discmen 908 00:41:08,633 --> 00:41:11,927 and headphones, and we were playing music to anybody 909 00:41:11,928 --> 00:41:14,555 who would listen, and invite them to the show. 910 00:41:14,556 --> 00:41:17,600 And we would gather these pretty immense crowds, 911 00:41:17,601 --> 00:41:20,728 from all that hustling throughout the day. 912 00:41:20,729 --> 00:41:22,396 And it kind of created a buzz. 913 00:41:24,649 --> 00:41:27,568 We were young kids in our twenties. 914 00:41:27,569 --> 00:41:29,987 No kids, no wives, 915 00:41:29,988 --> 00:41:31,655 girlfriends came and went. 916 00:41:31,656 --> 00:41:33,115 Like, we'd go home and we couldn't wait 917 00:41:33,116 --> 00:41:34,283 to go back on tour. 918 00:41:34,284 --> 00:41:35,409 We basically were chasing 919 00:41:35,410 --> 00:41:37,244 whatever was happening, you know? 920 00:41:37,245 --> 00:41:38,829 So if someone wanted to have us 921 00:41:38,830 --> 00:41:40,122 to play a show in Germany, 922 00:41:40,123 --> 00:41:41,916 we would fly to Germany and play a show. 923 00:41:41,917 --> 00:41:43,125 We're here in Hanover. 924 00:41:43,126 --> 00:41:44,501 Simple Plan just took the stage, 925 00:41:44,502 --> 00:41:46,212 I'm just gonna go check out what it's like inside. 926 00:41:50,550 --> 00:41:53,886 The official headcount is about 12 people. 927 00:41:53,887 --> 00:41:55,888 You didn't film this, did you? Yeah. 928 00:41:55,889 --> 00:41:57,015 Fuck! 929 00:41:58,391 --> 00:42:00,559 And the relationships were great. We were friends, 930 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,895 and very quickly kind of all became brothers. 931 00:42:02,896 --> 00:42:05,732 This is Pat's favourite jelly. Shh! 932 00:42:07,859 --> 00:42:09,276 Mmph... 933 00:42:10,904 --> 00:42:12,571 I think that being in a band 934 00:42:12,572 --> 00:42:14,949 with four other guys is like probably the ultimate 935 00:42:14,950 --> 00:42:16,200 test of your friendship. 936 00:42:22,290 --> 00:42:26,001 We're together 24 hours a day, we basically, you know, 937 00:42:26,002 --> 00:42:27,544 sleep together. 938 00:42:27,545 --> 00:42:29,380 We wash together. We, you know, 939 00:42:29,381 --> 00:42:32,549 hang out together, eat together. We brush our teeth together, 940 00:42:32,550 --> 00:42:34,718 and we're still having a great time, we still love it. 941 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,512 We're still best friends, they're my only friends. 942 00:42:36,513 --> 00:42:38,764 I don't even have any other friends, so... 943 00:42:38,765 --> 00:42:41,642 It's just a bond that will never die. 944 00:42:41,643 --> 00:42:45,521 But we travel in this cylinder with wheels. 945 00:42:45,522 --> 00:42:46,939 Holy shit! 946 00:42:50,902 --> 00:42:54,321 We've been on tour for about a year now. Everyday, nonstop, 947 00:42:54,322 --> 00:42:56,783 we've been playing shows, and this has been our home. 948 00:42:58,243 --> 00:43:00,452 Everywhere that we played a show, 949 00:43:00,453 --> 00:43:03,414 we could see record sales have a little bump. 950 00:43:03,415 --> 00:43:05,833 We'd sell a few hundred records in that city. 951 00:43:05,834 --> 00:43:07,501 This is where we're playing tonight. 952 00:43:07,502 --> 00:43:09,003 Our record label would tell us, 953 00:43:09,004 --> 00:43:10,963 keep doing that and keep doing that, and we did. 954 00:43:10,964 --> 00:43:13,048 We kept doing it. 955 00:43:13,049 --> 00:43:15,217 Thank you very much, you guys fucking rock! 956 00:43:23,476 --> 00:43:25,352 We just played our first show in Japan, like, 957 00:43:25,353 --> 00:43:26,937 it was sold out tour. 958 00:43:26,938 --> 00:43:30,065 The people are so nice, so friendly. 959 00:43:30,066 --> 00:43:31,900 It was awesome, it was so different. 960 00:43:31,901 --> 00:43:34,320 That was the first time that we really felt like rock stars. 961 00:43:34,321 --> 00:43:36,363 For real, like Japan makes you feel like you're 962 00:43:36,364 --> 00:43:39,408 the biggest band in the world, which is a good feeling! 963 00:43:39,409 --> 00:43:40,868 Who's your favorite member? 964 00:43:40,869 --> 00:43:43,787 -Jeff!! -Yeah!! 965 00:43:48,626 --> 00:43:50,753 Ohh, thank you! 966 00:43:52,630 --> 00:43:55,007 We wanted to make music that we love, 967 00:43:55,008 --> 00:43:57,217 but we were hoping that that music that we love 968 00:43:57,218 --> 00:44:00,471 was gonna bring us into like, 969 00:44:00,472 --> 00:44:01,847 the big stages and having 970 00:44:01,848 --> 00:44:04,058 some commercial success and all that. 971 00:44:04,059 --> 00:44:05,309 Uh-huh! 972 00:44:07,771 --> 00:44:11,023 But we also knew that that was gonna come with, 973 00:44:11,024 --> 00:44:13,817 you know, some backlash. 974 00:44:13,818 --> 00:44:17,946 Simple Plan was never cool, unfortunately. 975 00:44:17,947 --> 00:44:20,574 We called them, what did we call them? 976 00:44:20,575 --> 00:44:23,035 GGBB. 977 00:44:23,036 --> 00:44:24,953 That was, "Good guys, bad band." 978 00:44:24,954 --> 00:44:27,164 {\an8}Good guys, bad band. 979 00:44:27,165 --> 00:44:28,999 {\an8}-Oh, maybe. -Good guys, bad band. 980 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,667 {\an8}Have you encountered that, like, good guys, "Oh", 981 00:44:30,668 --> 00:44:32,503 {\an8}you're great guys", but bad band? 982 00:44:32,504 --> 00:44:34,964 {\an8}-Uh, it happened. -You know what, usually... 983 00:44:35,298 --> 00:44:37,591 {\an8}-You don't like us, do you? -Yes, I do like you! 984 00:44:37,592 --> 00:44:38,926 {\an8}-Cool, awesome. -What would this, 985 00:44:38,927 --> 00:44:40,594 {\an8}why, why would you think I would not like you? 986 00:44:40,595 --> 00:44:42,179 {\an8}I was just asking, I wasn't sure. 987 00:44:42,180 --> 00:44:46,475 {\an8}It seemed like Simple Plan liked being liked. 988 00:44:46,476 --> 00:44:50,521 It did appear formulaic, and it might have looked 989 00:44:50,522 --> 00:44:54,316 like it was concocted. 990 00:44:54,317 --> 00:44:56,318 There was a lot of bands that made me feel like 991 00:44:56,319 --> 00:44:58,445 we weren't enough or weren't good enough, 992 00:44:58,446 --> 00:45:01,657 or the fact that we sounded different and more poppy, 993 00:45:01,658 --> 00:45:04,451 I felt that they were looking at me like, 994 00:45:04,452 --> 00:45:06,578 "Heh. Wow, that band sucks." 995 00:45:06,579 --> 00:45:10,833 "No Pads, No Helmets, Just Balls", 996 00:45:10,834 --> 00:45:13,710 is the worst album title I have ever heard. 997 00:45:15,088 --> 00:45:17,756 Who came up with that, the marketing department? 998 00:45:17,757 --> 00:45:19,842 There's always a big debate on what it means 999 00:45:19,843 --> 00:45:21,218 to be punk rock. 1000 00:45:21,219 --> 00:45:24,012 We just do what we love, and I mean, if it's punk, 1001 00:45:24,013 --> 00:45:26,390 if it's punk-pop, if it's punk, if it's emo, it's like, 1002 00:45:26,391 --> 00:45:28,934 it doesn't really matter. It's like, I think being punk, 1003 00:45:28,935 --> 00:45:31,520 one thing about that is just doing whatever you wanna do, 1004 00:45:31,521 --> 00:45:33,647 and not listen to what everybody else tells you to do. 1005 00:45:33,648 --> 00:45:35,399 {\an8}When we came out, we never said, 1006 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,861 {\an8}"We're a pop-punk band." That was a very media thing. 1007 00:45:38,862 --> 00:45:41,113 Okay, I guess we're a pop-punk band now. It was always 1008 00:45:41,114 --> 00:45:43,740 the press and the media would always put you in something. 1009 00:45:43,741 --> 00:45:45,951 They pretty much called any band that got popular 1010 00:45:45,952 --> 00:45:48,412 pop-punk. Because, you know, popular punk. 1011 00:45:48,413 --> 00:45:49,997 But that's not what they meant by it, 1012 00:45:49,998 --> 00:45:53,584 they meant by this sound that is easy listening. 1013 00:45:53,585 --> 00:45:55,586 {\an8}We've been called everything from punk 1014 00:45:55,587 --> 00:45:58,672 {\an8}to, to just rock, to terrible! 1015 00:45:58,673 --> 00:46:00,299 Pop, pop-punk. 1016 00:46:00,300 --> 00:46:03,177 Courtney, Courtney Love said, "You guys are a great pop band." 1017 00:46:03,178 --> 00:46:05,304 And that was the thing is it always made you 1018 00:46:05,305 --> 00:46:07,014 kind of shudder, because pop, the word pop 1019 00:46:07,015 --> 00:46:09,975 is like the antithesis to punk typically, right? 1020 00:46:09,976 --> 00:46:12,060 When it started bubbling up into popular culture 1021 00:46:12,061 --> 00:46:14,605 bands that were going from the underground, 1022 00:46:14,606 --> 00:46:16,940 and the underground labels, were actually being played 1023 00:46:16,941 --> 00:46:18,400 on the radio, and so there was 1024 00:46:18,401 --> 00:46:20,360 this whole backlash from the punk rock community 1025 00:46:20,361 --> 00:46:23,530 about, "Don't sell out our community 1026 00:46:23,531 --> 00:46:24,990 to these big corporations." 1027 00:46:24,991 --> 00:46:27,701 There was definitely this gate keeping thing, 1028 00:46:27,702 --> 00:46:29,661 and it kind of was around the time that the Warped Tour 1029 00:46:29,662 --> 00:46:31,663 became really popular. 1030 00:46:31,664 --> 00:46:33,916 The Warped Tour really started with some of 1031 00:46:33,917 --> 00:46:37,044 the classic punk bands like Rancid, Bad Religion, NOFX. 1032 00:46:37,045 --> 00:46:39,046 The Warped Tour was such a huge part 1033 00:46:39,047 --> 00:46:40,714 of the punk rock community, 1034 00:46:40,715 --> 00:46:43,217 and also the punk rock community becoming so mainstream. 1035 00:46:43,218 --> 00:46:45,636 It was different. It was community. 1036 00:46:45,637 --> 00:46:48,305 All the bands kind of, we were all in it together. 1037 00:46:48,306 --> 00:46:50,265 There was no hierarchy. 1038 00:46:50,266 --> 00:46:52,267 If you came here to throw fucking dirt, 1039 00:46:52,268 --> 00:46:54,228 come back so we can kick your ass 1040 00:46:54,229 --> 00:46:56,980 {\an8}and show you what real punk rock's about. 1041 00:46:56,981 --> 00:46:59,900 You came here to see bands, this is bullshit! 1042 00:46:59,901 --> 00:47:02,319 Anybody that was vaguely pop, 1043 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,404 was really bullied on that tour. 1044 00:47:04,405 --> 00:47:06,532 Warped Tour will test you, they're like, those kind 1045 00:47:06,533 --> 00:47:08,408 of bands that have been around a while, that were on 1046 00:47:08,409 --> 00:47:10,744 the Warped Tour, they're gonna be standoffish at first, 1047 00:47:10,745 --> 00:47:12,663 'cause you're the new band on the block. 1048 00:47:12,664 --> 00:47:14,873 People that are precious about punk, 1049 00:47:14,874 --> 00:47:16,208 they'll shit on you if they don't feel 1050 00:47:16,209 --> 00:47:17,459 like you belong in that club. 1051 00:47:32,225 --> 00:47:33,433 Take care of yourselves. 1052 00:47:33,434 --> 00:47:35,394 That was fucking close! 1053 00:47:35,395 --> 00:47:36,521 See ya. 1054 00:47:41,234 --> 00:47:44,403 People started throwing bottles at us on stage. 1055 00:47:44,404 --> 00:47:47,114 At the end of the set, they had to bring brooms, 1056 00:47:47,115 --> 00:47:49,324 to like get rid of all the bottles. 1057 00:47:49,325 --> 00:47:51,159 Like, it was literally, like this high, 1058 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:52,911 everywhere. And people were putting rocks in them, 1059 00:47:52,912 --> 00:47:54,830 and like, piss in them, 1060 00:47:54,831 --> 00:47:57,541 like it was, it was pretty brutal. 1061 00:47:57,542 --> 00:48:00,335 You guys ready? Let's do it! 1062 00:48:00,336 --> 00:48:03,589 I definitely did try to focus on the people 1063 00:48:03,590 --> 00:48:05,465 in the front row that were having fun. 1064 00:48:05,466 --> 00:48:07,050 I just thought it was dumb. 1065 00:48:07,051 --> 00:48:08,719 You know, like, you're playing at big festivals, 1066 00:48:08,720 --> 00:48:10,721 there's like, I don't know, 30 bands. 1067 00:48:10,722 --> 00:48:13,932 And you decide to come watch the band you don't like? 1068 00:48:13,933 --> 00:48:15,892 Like, that's just... You're just an idiot. 1069 00:48:15,893 --> 00:48:19,104 I remember like, the message board at the time 1070 00:48:19,105 --> 00:48:21,898 and all that, like, it was like, "Man, these guys fucking suck." 1071 00:48:21,899 --> 00:48:23,859 "I hope they choke on broken glass." 1072 00:48:23,860 --> 00:48:26,653 I remember reading that, and going like, "Man, wow." 1073 00:48:26,654 --> 00:48:29,616 That is intense." It was hurtful. 1074 00:48:30,783 --> 00:48:32,701 You guys are too pop for punk. 1075 00:48:32,702 --> 00:48:37,540 It's always like, not enough, or, of something. 1076 00:48:38,875 --> 00:48:41,835 And I started believing people. 1077 00:48:41,836 --> 00:48:45,214 So we get faced with this choice. 1078 00:48:47,925 --> 00:48:50,719 We have an opening slot possibility with Avril Lavigne 1079 00:48:50,720 --> 00:48:53,597 on her first tour ever. 1080 00:48:53,598 --> 00:48:56,058 It's arenas, sold out, 1081 00:48:56,059 --> 00:48:58,393 and we could be the support band. 1082 00:48:58,394 --> 00:49:00,479 And we knew that if we would take the Avril Lavigne 1083 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,898 opening slot, a lot of rock radios would just be like, 1084 00:49:02,899 --> 00:49:04,650 "We thought about maybe playing you, 1085 00:49:04,651 --> 00:49:07,653 but now we're not gonna, because now you're a pop band, 1086 00:49:07,654 --> 00:49:09,154 and we're not doing that. 1087 00:49:09,155 --> 00:49:11,156 So we had to decide, what do we wanna do? 1088 00:49:11,157 --> 00:49:13,825 Do we wanna keep chasing this dream of being 1089 00:49:13,826 --> 00:49:16,495 played by rock radio? Or do we wanna go open up 1090 00:49:16,496 --> 00:49:18,246 for Avril Lavigne in front of 25,000 people 1091 00:49:18,247 --> 00:49:20,707 every night, and hopefully gain some new fans 1092 00:49:20,708 --> 00:49:22,584 and see where that goes? 1093 00:49:22,585 --> 00:49:25,754 Do you fight to be in a club that you'll always 1094 00:49:25,755 --> 00:49:27,381 feel like you're not really a part of? 1095 00:49:27,382 --> 00:49:30,425 Or do you create your own path? 1096 00:49:30,426 --> 00:49:33,011 My next guests will be on tour with Avril Lavigne 1097 00:49:33,012 --> 00:49:34,346 beginning April 15th, 1098 00:49:34,347 --> 00:49:35,681 they're here tonight performing a song 1099 00:49:35,682 --> 00:49:37,849 from their current CD, "No Pads, No Helmets, 1100 00:49:37,850 --> 00:49:41,478 Just Balls." Please welcome Simple Plan! 1101 00:49:55,827 --> 00:49:57,245 Hi! 1102 00:50:00,707 --> 00:50:02,875 Hey! 1103 00:50:03,042 --> 00:50:04,335 Hello! 1104 00:50:05,545 --> 00:50:06,838 How's it going? 1105 00:50:08,381 --> 00:50:09,882 Our albums are... 1106 00:50:10,007 --> 00:50:11,800 That sounded, so what? 1107 00:50:11,801 --> 00:50:16,221 Like, our albums came out at the exact same time, in 2002. 1108 00:50:16,222 --> 00:50:20,517 And I feel like we were both supporting each other. 1109 00:50:20,518 --> 00:50:22,686 It was really cool for me to bring another band 1110 00:50:22,687 --> 00:50:26,983 out on the road, and expose them to my fan base, and vice versa. 1111 00:50:33,030 --> 00:50:34,990 We were all living on tour buses, 1112 00:50:34,991 --> 00:50:36,366 just kids being kids. 1113 00:50:36,367 --> 00:50:38,618 Hanging out in each other's dressing rooms, 1114 00:50:38,619 --> 00:50:41,247 drinking beer and getting into some kind of trouble. 1115 00:50:42,790 --> 00:50:46,334 When we played that tour, pop radio really started 1116 00:50:46,335 --> 00:50:47,836 playing us. I think in some ways, 1117 00:50:47,837 --> 00:50:51,506 it's what made us into a "pop" pop-punk band, 1118 00:50:51,507 --> 00:50:54,009 instead of a "punk" pop-punk band. 1119 00:50:54,010 --> 00:50:58,054 Simple Plan is not gonna be able to sign any autographs, 1120 00:50:58,055 --> 00:50:59,890 'cause there's too many people. 1121 00:50:59,891 --> 00:51:03,143 Move away from the door, they're not in there! 1122 00:51:24,707 --> 00:51:27,334 Just like Pierre quotes, we're back again, 1123 00:51:27,335 --> 00:51:29,085 it's 20 years later. 1124 00:51:29,086 --> 00:51:32,256 Sometimes it feels like nothing's changed! 1125 00:51:41,724 --> 00:51:43,725 Come on! 1126 00:51:43,726 --> 00:51:46,311 Warped Tour 2003 was the year 1127 00:51:46,312 --> 00:51:49,689 where we were like, "Okay, we're a big band now." 1128 00:51:49,690 --> 00:51:52,318 It was the explosive year of Simple Plan. 1129 00:51:53,694 --> 00:51:57,072 The fact that we went from the Avril tour 1130 00:51:57,073 --> 00:52:00,200 to Warped Tour is a good example of the type of band 1131 00:52:00,201 --> 00:52:01,827 we are, and wanted to be. 1132 00:52:01,828 --> 00:52:03,995 You were not supposed to be on both sides, 1133 00:52:03,996 --> 00:52:07,415 and we were trying to do that. In our minds, it made sense. 1134 00:52:10,336 --> 00:52:12,504 We made a conscious effort to like, 1135 00:52:12,505 --> 00:52:14,089 let's get ourselves on Warped Tour 1136 00:52:14,090 --> 00:52:15,757 and keep aligning with those bands. 1137 00:52:15,758 --> 00:52:17,217 The bands that they love. 1138 00:52:17,218 --> 00:52:18,635 They kept adjusting and adjusting, 1139 00:52:18,636 --> 00:52:20,303 so there's no slow songs, 1140 00:52:20,304 --> 00:52:22,264 like, all like fast, fast, fast, fast, fast. 1141 00:52:27,436 --> 00:52:30,522 And I think that was key 1142 00:52:30,523 --> 00:52:32,482 to the band, because they just kept 1143 00:52:32,483 --> 00:52:34,192 going back, and back, and back, 1144 00:52:34,193 --> 00:52:35,653 and people stopped throwing shit. 1145 00:52:36,904 --> 00:52:39,865 It was not a very linear path. 1146 00:52:39,866 --> 00:52:42,492 It was all like little steps, gradually, gradually, gradually. 1147 00:52:42,493 --> 00:52:44,411 The tipping point? 1148 00:52:44,412 --> 00:52:46,037 There were none. 1149 00:52:46,038 --> 00:52:48,416 It was a long process. 1150 00:52:50,793 --> 00:52:51,835 Thank you! 1151 00:52:54,297 --> 00:52:56,506 Welcome to TRL! 1152 00:52:56,507 --> 00:52:58,925 {\an8}We're live from Times Square. I'm Lala, this is D. 1153 00:52:58,926 --> 00:53:00,010 {\an8}I'm Damien. 1154 00:53:00,011 --> 00:53:01,094 {\an8}TRL could literally 1155 00:53:01,095 --> 00:53:04,431 {\an8}send your album to number one. 1156 00:53:04,432 --> 00:53:06,349 You have to understand, we didn't have social media, 1157 00:53:06,350 --> 00:53:07,809 so you would rush home from school, 1158 00:53:07,810 --> 00:53:09,686 watch your favorite celebrities 1159 00:53:09,687 --> 00:53:11,229 on this live television show. 1160 00:53:11,230 --> 00:53:14,566 MTV at the time was the pinnacle 1161 00:53:14,567 --> 00:53:18,361 of mainstream music success. 1162 00:53:18,362 --> 00:53:21,156 To get on TRL was a huge deal. 1163 00:53:21,157 --> 00:53:22,532 Every major band did. 1164 00:53:22,533 --> 00:53:25,243 -Operation MTV! -TRL, baby! 1165 00:53:25,244 --> 00:53:27,622 Let's go check out the set, I'm nervous. 1166 00:53:28,497 --> 00:53:30,040 Hey, what's up? We're Simple Plan 1167 00:53:30,041 --> 00:53:33,376 from Montreal, Canada. It's time to go crazy! 1168 00:53:36,839 --> 00:53:39,466 That's when things started to completely change for us. 1169 00:53:39,467 --> 00:53:41,760 From then on, it was just like a whirlwind. 1170 00:53:41,761 --> 00:53:44,638 We got caught up in a crazy adventure. 1171 00:53:47,391 --> 00:53:50,060 We're all over MTV, we're all over MuchMusic. 1172 00:53:50,061 --> 00:53:51,227 We're all over radio. 1173 00:53:51,228 --> 00:53:52,646 Montreal, TRL. 1174 00:53:52,647 --> 00:53:55,065 There's probably a cut-out poster of us at Walmart. 1175 00:53:55,066 --> 00:53:58,026 We are joined by le Simple Plan. 1176 00:53:58,027 --> 00:54:00,445 It's a Canadian Simple Plan bonanza. 1177 00:54:00,446 --> 00:54:02,948 It was so fast, it was a tornado. 1178 00:54:02,949 --> 00:54:05,283 When I look back at those years when we were on TRL, 1179 00:54:05,284 --> 00:54:07,994 and we were doing all these things, it feels a bit surreal. 1180 00:54:07,995 --> 00:54:10,747 Our next guests have become fixtures on the Billboard chart. 1181 00:54:10,748 --> 00:54:12,207 They're back from Japan. 1182 00:54:12,208 --> 00:54:13,833 Please welcome Simple Plan. 1183 00:54:13,834 --> 00:54:15,627 -Simple Plan. -Simple Plan! 1184 00:54:15,628 --> 00:54:17,921 I was still broke. But we were selling 1185 00:54:17,922 --> 00:54:19,589 90,000 records a week! 1186 00:54:19,590 --> 00:54:21,466 That's right, Video Music Awards! 1187 00:54:21,467 --> 00:54:24,011 Apparently, I'm a nominee. I don't believe it, but hey! 1188 00:54:25,513 --> 00:54:27,305 It was always a "pinch me" moment. 1189 00:54:27,306 --> 00:54:30,142 "Yo, do you realize that P! nk knows who I am?" 1190 00:54:30,977 --> 00:54:33,645 The Red Carpet at the MTV Awards was just nuts. 1191 00:54:33,646 --> 00:54:35,730 We started this band four years ago, 1192 00:54:35,731 --> 00:54:38,274 and never even knew where it was gonna take us. 1193 00:54:38,275 --> 00:54:40,151 With all those celebrities, I'm sitting there as a nominee, 1194 00:54:40,152 --> 00:54:41,528 it's like a big dream come true. 1195 00:54:41,529 --> 00:54:43,238 Thank you! 1196 00:54:45,449 --> 00:54:48,034 And then, "Perfect" started playing on the radio, 1197 00:54:48,035 --> 00:54:49,703 which really changed our lives. 1198 00:55:02,508 --> 00:55:04,592 I started seeing the reaction of people 1199 00:55:04,593 --> 00:55:06,720 tearing up at the show, crying. 1200 00:55:06,721 --> 00:55:10,223 Seeing fans respond when that song came out, 1201 00:55:10,224 --> 00:55:13,768 I was like, "Okay, this is way more than just a good song, 1202 00:55:13,769 --> 00:55:15,145 this is, something's happening." 1203 00:55:20,484 --> 00:55:23,903 We never had anyone cry when we played a show. 1204 00:55:23,904 --> 00:55:26,032 That was not the kind of music we were making. 1205 00:55:27,283 --> 00:55:32,370 All of a sudden, there was a new dimension to Simple Plan. 1206 00:55:33,706 --> 00:55:35,206 Don't open the car, Dad! 1207 00:55:40,504 --> 00:55:42,130 {\an8}Do you like making records? 1208 00:55:42,131 --> 00:55:43,465 {\an8}I love making records. 1209 00:55:43,466 --> 00:55:45,925 As soon as we figured that we were done 1210 00:55:45,926 --> 00:55:48,011 touring the first album, 1211 00:55:48,012 --> 00:55:49,429 we started writing the second album, 1212 00:55:49,430 --> 00:55:52,223 and as soon as we had enough songs that we liked, 1213 00:55:52,224 --> 00:55:54,350 we booked the studio and went right into it. 1214 00:55:54,351 --> 00:55:58,313 We want the band to sound bigger, more rock. 1215 00:55:58,314 --> 00:56:01,649 {\an8}♪ We have a simple plan ♪ 1216 00:56:01,650 --> 00:56:03,234 {\an8}♪ We got a simple plan ♪ 1217 00:56:03,235 --> 00:56:05,904 {\an8}That's why we decided to record it 1218 00:56:05,905 --> 00:56:08,823 {\an8}with Bob Rock, which had made fantastic albums. 1219 00:56:08,824 --> 00:56:11,242 He made the Black album for Metallica. 1220 00:56:11,243 --> 00:56:14,120 Don't ever, ever 1221 00:56:14,121 --> 00:56:16,539 point that fucking thing at me again. 1222 00:56:16,540 --> 00:56:18,416 Oh, don't! 1223 00:56:20,628 --> 00:56:21,878 That's better. 1224 00:56:21,879 --> 00:56:23,421 He has a studio in, on Maui. 1225 00:56:23,422 --> 00:56:26,508 Beautiful, on the beach, like, it's paradise. 1226 00:56:26,509 --> 00:56:28,468 After touring for almost three years 1227 00:56:28,469 --> 00:56:30,136 on "No Pads, No Helmets, Just Balls", 1228 00:56:30,137 --> 00:56:31,846 we were like, "Nah man." 1229 00:56:31,847 --> 00:56:36,726 Like, we wanna make the record at Studio Piccolo in Montreal! 1230 00:56:39,355 --> 00:56:42,524 We rented like, an apartment in downtown Montreal, 1231 00:56:42,525 --> 00:56:45,235 we would record all day and we would go out at night, 1232 00:56:45,236 --> 00:56:48,822 like all together as a band. It was the best summer ever. 1233 00:56:53,536 --> 00:56:55,245 Second half. 1234 00:56:55,246 --> 00:56:57,247 This is the most important record of our career. 1235 00:56:57,248 --> 00:56:58,790 It's not good enough, we need more songs, 1236 00:56:58,791 --> 00:57:01,126 it needs to be better. I was definitely pushing that 1237 00:57:01,127 --> 00:57:02,585 a lot on Pierre. 1238 00:57:02,586 --> 00:57:04,546 It keeps going, and going. 1239 00:57:04,547 --> 00:57:05,797 It's like a Dylan song. 1240 00:57:05,798 --> 00:57:07,715 Most songs for Simple Plan 1241 00:57:07,716 --> 00:57:09,592 start with an idea for a lyric. 1242 00:57:09,593 --> 00:57:11,427 Chuck has a lyric book, he writes a bunch of lyrics 1243 00:57:11,428 --> 00:57:13,263 or words, or a sentence 1244 00:57:13,264 --> 00:57:15,056 that will kind of kick start everything 1245 00:57:15,057 --> 00:57:17,559 as a concept. And from there, we'll build on it together 1246 00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:18,977 and write everything else. 1247 00:57:18,978 --> 00:57:20,562 To me, it was just words on paper, 1248 00:57:20,563 --> 00:57:21,813 and then he would take it, 1249 00:57:21,814 --> 00:57:23,606 and he would magically turn it into a song. 1250 00:57:23,607 --> 00:57:25,650 I think "Welcome To My Life" is one of 1251 00:57:25,651 --> 00:57:27,402 my favorite songs we've ever written. 1252 00:57:32,324 --> 00:57:35,368 I remember thinking like, welcome to my life, 1253 00:57:35,369 --> 00:57:37,162 that's a cool line. And then Pierre came up 1254 00:57:37,163 --> 00:57:39,831 with an amazing way to sing those words. 1255 00:57:39,832 --> 00:57:42,959 Gave me goosebumps when he came up with it. 1256 00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,170 When it was done, I remember us just being like, 1257 00:57:45,171 --> 00:57:47,797 "Holy shit, this is a really good song!" 1258 00:57:53,345 --> 00:57:56,139 It stood the test of time. I can listen to it today, 1259 00:57:56,140 --> 00:57:58,058 and still feel the same way. 1260 00:58:20,831 --> 00:58:22,624 Welcome to my life! 1261 00:58:22,625 --> 00:58:23,751 Hey! 1262 00:58:26,921 --> 00:58:29,130 I remember, we looked at each other 1263 00:58:29,131 --> 00:58:31,633 and we said like, "We got it, that's it." 1264 00:58:31,634 --> 00:58:33,051 It's a new record. 1265 00:58:34,345 --> 00:58:36,429 This is a private jet, 1266 00:58:36,430 --> 00:58:38,223 and we are the coolest people in the world, 1267 00:58:38,224 --> 00:58:40,183 because we're in it! 1268 00:58:40,184 --> 00:58:43,061 We don't usually do this, but uh, it was urgent. 1269 00:58:43,062 --> 00:58:44,646 We have to go to New York City. 1270 00:58:44,647 --> 00:58:46,689 -Our record is coming out. -Kind of big deal. 1271 00:58:46,690 --> 00:58:49,567 Hi, we're in Times Square, New York City. 1272 00:58:49,568 --> 00:58:51,819 We're gonna go buy our record. Remember last time, 1273 00:58:51,820 --> 00:58:53,571 on the other DVD when we tried to buy our record 1274 00:58:53,572 --> 00:58:54,697 and they didn't have it? Well, hopefully, 1275 00:58:54,698 --> 00:58:56,033 this time, they have it. 1276 00:58:57,493 --> 00:58:59,369 There's a pretty solid jump between the first 1277 00:58:59,370 --> 00:59:02,372 and the second in that, things did blow up. 1278 00:59:02,373 --> 00:59:04,540 We got 3 million records sold, 1279 00:59:04,541 --> 00:59:07,210 and 3 million records sold is a big deal. 1280 00:59:07,211 --> 00:59:08,544 Yeah! 1281 00:59:22,017 --> 00:59:25,103 Oh my God! Oh my God! 1282 00:59:26,146 --> 00:59:27,021 Simple Plan! 1283 00:59:27,022 --> 00:59:28,564 Simple Plan! 1284 00:59:41,912 --> 00:59:44,497 Felt like the Beatles there. Holy shit! 1285 00:59:44,498 --> 00:59:46,332 Thank you. 1286 00:59:46,333 --> 00:59:47,583 Please welcome Québec's most popular band 1287 00:59:47,584 --> 00:59:49,544 in the world. Here is Simple Plan. 1288 00:59:53,674 --> 00:59:55,008 Told you we were huge! 1289 00:59:56,135 --> 00:59:57,969 They're kind of the only band 1290 00:59:57,970 --> 01:00:00,263 from Montreal who are doing what they did. 1291 01:00:00,264 --> 01:00:03,433 Simple Plan had to leave Montreal to tour 1292 01:00:03,434 --> 01:00:05,728 around the world to break big. 1293 01:00:06,770 --> 01:00:09,397 Man, we were doing so well. 1294 01:00:09,398 --> 01:00:11,774 "Welcome To My Life" was huge. 1295 01:00:11,775 --> 01:00:14,819 It was on TV all the time, on the radio. 1296 01:00:14,820 --> 01:00:17,030 And we were playing pretty spectacular crowds. 1297 01:00:17,031 --> 01:00:18,698 Make some noise! 1298 01:00:18,699 --> 01:00:21,159 We went to South Africa, we went to Brazil 1299 01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:22,410 for the first time. 1300 01:00:22,411 --> 01:00:23,703 One more stamp in the passport. 1301 01:00:23,704 --> 01:00:24,704 Went back to Southeast Asia. 1302 01:00:24,705 --> 01:00:26,414 We toured nonstop. 1303 01:01:10,751 --> 01:01:13,711 Simple Plan! Simple Plan! Simple Plan! 1304 01:01:17,883 --> 01:01:19,300 I love this! 1305 01:01:19,301 --> 01:01:21,052 Honestly, I lost my mind 1306 01:01:21,053 --> 01:01:22,971 when we started being successful. 1307 01:01:24,264 --> 01:01:26,265 I mean, 1308 01:01:26,266 --> 01:01:30,187 the rock world has always sort of... 1309 01:01:34,191 --> 01:01:38,528 valued, you know, crazy backstage stories. 1310 01:01:40,030 --> 01:01:41,864 It is quite irresponsible 1311 01:01:41,865 --> 01:01:45,159 from record labels not to have a support system 1312 01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:46,285 for their artists. 1313 01:01:46,286 --> 01:01:48,830 Not gonna remember anything about it. 1314 01:01:48,831 --> 01:01:50,123 That's the way it goes. 1315 01:01:50,124 --> 01:01:51,833 The mix of being sort of immature, 1316 01:01:51,834 --> 01:01:54,836 being naive and young, 1317 01:01:54,837 --> 01:01:56,879 I didn't really realize what it is we were doing, 1318 01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,048 I was just kind of like going where I was told, 1319 01:01:59,049 --> 01:02:01,259 this was fun, these people are great, 1320 01:02:01,260 --> 01:02:02,927 there's fans outside. 1321 01:02:02,928 --> 01:02:05,555 I wasn't processing all that stuff a whole lot. 1322 01:02:05,556 --> 01:02:08,057 There's something really magical about the size 1323 01:02:08,058 --> 01:02:09,475 of the pop star. 1324 01:02:09,476 --> 01:02:11,602 About the fantasy of the life they get to live. 1325 01:02:11,603 --> 01:02:14,105 And when you've gone into that, which certainly Simple Plan 1326 01:02:14,106 --> 01:02:15,356 have this pop success, 1327 01:02:15,357 --> 01:02:16,858 of course they're gonna come out of that 1328 01:02:16,859 --> 01:02:18,067 with some scars, 1329 01:02:18,068 --> 01:02:20,111 and they're gonna have to make sense of it. 1330 01:02:20,112 --> 01:02:22,989 And that can be a lifelong endeavor, 'cause the pop thing 1331 01:02:22,990 --> 01:02:24,240 can fuck you up. 1332 01:02:24,241 --> 01:02:26,076 It can leave you really desolate. 1333 01:02:27,077 --> 01:02:28,077 Boss. 1334 01:02:28,620 --> 01:02:30,538 What time is the lobby call? 1335 01:02:30,539 --> 01:02:31,748 6:15. 1336 01:02:31,957 --> 01:02:35,377 I'm fucking fed up, man. I need a break. 1337 01:02:35,919 --> 01:02:37,795 Do I wanna be as big as Elvis? 1338 01:02:37,796 --> 01:02:41,340 Well, if I have to die the way he did, I don't. 1339 01:02:44,303 --> 01:02:46,262 It's kind of a departure for us, 1340 01:02:46,263 --> 01:02:47,847 at the same time, it's still Simple Plan, 1341 01:02:47,848 --> 01:02:49,682 but it definitely is a new beginning. 1342 01:02:49,683 --> 01:02:52,018 The third record for me was just a disaster. 1343 01:02:52,019 --> 01:02:53,478 I don't know, like, I love the music, 1344 01:02:53,479 --> 01:02:56,898 I think it's great. But that moment in time 1345 01:02:56,899 --> 01:02:59,109 was really not a great time for me. 1346 01:02:59,818 --> 01:03:02,695 I was on the verge of getting separated. 1347 01:03:02,696 --> 01:03:05,948 When we were making that record, 1348 01:03:05,949 --> 01:03:07,575 I didn't really feel close to the guys, 1349 01:03:07,576 --> 01:03:09,410 I was living my own stuff. 1350 01:03:09,411 --> 01:03:11,162 Yeah, that was a bit of a tough time. 1351 01:03:11,163 --> 01:03:13,499 In the band's lives, there was a lot going on. 1352 01:03:15,501 --> 01:03:17,835 I was really in love with someone and it didn't work out, 1353 01:03:17,836 --> 01:03:19,337 and it really broke my heart. 1354 01:03:19,338 --> 01:03:21,839 We were coming off two very successful records, 1355 01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:23,508 and at this point, we didn't really know 1356 01:03:23,509 --> 01:03:25,593 exactly which way to go or what to do. 1357 01:03:25,594 --> 01:03:27,595 It's a darker record in a lot of ways. 1358 01:03:27,596 --> 01:03:29,889 My brother was going through cancer at the time, 1359 01:03:29,890 --> 01:03:32,142 and that was really hard. 1360 01:03:34,186 --> 01:03:36,687 What was happening is that our style of music 1361 01:03:36,688 --> 01:03:38,231 was not on the radio anymore. 1362 01:03:39,775 --> 01:03:41,067 {\an8}People were into Justin Timberlake 1363 01:03:41,068 --> 01:03:43,861 {\an8}and awesome R&B artists, not guitars. 1364 01:03:43,862 --> 01:03:45,655 Is this a shift we're taking musically? 1365 01:03:45,656 --> 01:03:47,782 Like, are we a band that suddenly tries 1366 01:03:47,783 --> 01:03:49,200 different things and incorporates that 1367 01:03:49,201 --> 01:03:51,619 into the music? Or, do we stick to our guns 1368 01:03:51,620 --> 01:03:53,579 and go all out on guitars? 1369 01:03:53,580 --> 01:03:55,831 The label spent so much on this album! 1370 01:03:55,832 --> 01:03:57,584 It must have cost them millions! 1371 01:03:57,793 --> 01:03:59,043 Don't be a fucking asshole. 1372 01:03:59,044 --> 01:04:00,628 Fuck you! I'm not an asshole, you're... 1373 01:04:00,629 --> 01:04:02,880 You're so intense, it's just one chord! 1374 01:04:02,881 --> 01:04:04,382 Thought Chuck had something to say. 1375 01:04:04,383 --> 01:04:06,050 -I'm not talking anymore. -Awesome. 1376 01:04:06,051 --> 01:04:07,468 It's your update. 1377 01:04:07,469 --> 01:04:08,511 Good news! 1378 01:04:09,972 --> 01:04:11,597 We thought it was gonna be the biggest thing 1379 01:04:11,598 --> 01:04:13,599 in the world. That didn't really happen. 1380 01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:15,726 You could see the attendance at the shows 1381 01:04:15,727 --> 01:04:17,520 was definitely going down. 1382 01:04:17,521 --> 01:04:19,021 Wow, we're still a band. 1383 01:04:19,022 --> 01:04:20,940 People still sort of care, it's good. 1384 01:04:20,941 --> 01:04:22,358 Single's going to the fucking toilet, 1385 01:04:22,359 --> 01:04:23,943 the radio situation is horrible 1386 01:04:23,944 --> 01:04:26,112 and it's hard to keep up. I'm pretty depressed. 1387 01:04:26,113 --> 01:04:30,616 When you're actually living your real, first big low, 1388 01:04:30,617 --> 01:04:32,827 holy shit, it's traumatic. 1389 01:04:32,828 --> 01:04:35,705 And when you start playing like five, six, seven 1390 01:04:35,706 --> 01:04:38,750 thousand people, that becomes your normal real quick. 1391 01:04:39,835 --> 01:04:43,170 If one night is not like that, you're like, "What's going on?" 1392 01:04:43,171 --> 01:04:46,465 We were very tired. We decided to pause. 1393 01:04:46,466 --> 01:04:48,467 I did not know if we could survive that one, 1394 01:04:48,468 --> 01:04:50,053 I wasn't sure. 1395 01:04:51,722 --> 01:04:54,432 As a singer, you have to be on top of your game. 1396 01:04:54,433 --> 01:04:56,809 And everything falls on you, in the sense that 1397 01:04:56,810 --> 01:04:59,479 if I can't perform, no one's coming. 1398 01:05:00,731 --> 01:05:03,858 I get really worried about not being able to... 1399 01:05:03,859 --> 01:05:05,359 be okay for the show. 1400 01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:07,278 I used to wake up in the mornings and I'd be like... 1401 01:05:07,279 --> 01:05:09,030 Oh my God. Oh my God. 1402 01:05:09,031 --> 01:05:11,032 My voice. And it's been a struggle for me, 1403 01:05:11,033 --> 01:05:12,950 because singing doesn't come naturally, 1404 01:05:12,951 --> 01:05:15,620 I wasn't born singing. I could never win American Idol, 1405 01:05:15,621 --> 01:05:17,163 I could never do that kind of stuff. 1406 01:05:17,164 --> 01:05:20,166 But I know that I'm good at what I do, but when I sing, 1407 01:05:20,167 --> 01:05:22,919 it's taxing on me. It's not comfortable. 1408 01:05:25,380 --> 01:05:28,549 I deal with anxiety, and maybe 12 years ago, 1409 01:05:28,550 --> 01:05:30,718 I had my first full-blown panic attack. 1410 01:05:30,719 --> 01:05:32,804 Didn't know what the hell was going on. 1411 01:05:33,847 --> 01:05:36,182 Sometimes like, when I'm on tour 1412 01:05:36,183 --> 01:05:38,392 I'll be pacing in my hotel room, and like after 20 minutes 1413 01:05:38,393 --> 01:05:39,727 of that, I have to remind myself, like, 1414 01:05:39,728 --> 01:05:42,897 "Bro. Put on some music and take some breaths." 1415 01:05:42,898 --> 01:05:45,816 And stop thinking about all this stuff I keep thinking. 1416 01:05:45,817 --> 01:05:49,153 And also the pressure of, people are coming to hear me 1417 01:05:49,154 --> 01:05:50,905 sing these songs, but how's my voice, 1418 01:05:50,906 --> 01:05:53,115 how's this, how's this? Like, I'm not helping myself. 1419 01:05:53,116 --> 01:05:54,784 I need to just relax. 1420 01:06:46,294 --> 01:06:48,129 When you're going through struggles, 1421 01:06:48,130 --> 01:06:50,131 feeling like nobody understands what you're going through, 1422 01:06:50,132 --> 01:06:52,675 and you're going through something so unique, 1423 01:06:52,676 --> 01:06:55,886 that nobody gets you, that's really hard. 1424 01:06:55,887 --> 01:06:58,556 And now I know, okay, I can handle the anxiety, 1425 01:06:58,557 --> 01:07:03,310 and if I prioritize my health in my downtime, 1426 01:07:03,311 --> 01:07:05,604 it's better for us in the long run. 1427 01:07:05,605 --> 01:07:07,231 It's a balancing act, and it's something that 1428 01:07:07,232 --> 01:07:08,566 I've learned over the years, you know. 1429 01:07:08,567 --> 01:07:09,817 To, when to put my foot down. 1430 01:07:09,818 --> 01:07:11,318 You know, because I know that, 1431 01:07:11,319 --> 01:07:12,903 you know, for this documentary, 1432 01:07:12,904 --> 01:07:14,113 you've probably realized that Chuck 1433 01:07:14,114 --> 01:07:16,198 is the driving force behind 1434 01:07:16,199 --> 01:07:18,868 so much of what we need to do. 1435 01:07:18,869 --> 01:07:21,871 And, Chuck doesn't have the same pressures that I have. 1436 01:07:21,872 --> 01:07:25,458 And it's counter intuitive for me to be like, 1437 01:07:25,459 --> 01:07:27,294 "I need this time for myself." 1438 01:07:28,211 --> 01:07:29,838 What? Oh, picture. 1439 01:07:30,922 --> 01:07:33,174 Always more content. 1440 01:07:44,644 --> 01:07:47,188 Okay, what is going on here? Will Smith with another 1441 01:07:47,189 --> 01:07:48,731 "I'm Just A Kid" video challenge? 1442 01:07:48,732 --> 01:07:51,317 It's his fifth one, and this time, 1443 01:07:51,318 --> 01:07:53,360 with the Williams sisters? 1444 01:07:53,361 --> 01:07:55,696 Am I dreaming? Is this real life? 1445 01:07:55,697 --> 01:07:57,573 The "I'm Just A Kid" challenge is the greatest gift 1446 01:07:57,574 --> 01:08:00,576 that we could have ever received from social media. 1447 01:08:00,577 --> 01:08:04,789 It's sort of like having a number one hit single, 1448 01:08:04,790 --> 01:08:07,500 after 25 years of being in a band. 1449 01:08:07,501 --> 01:08:10,419 Alright, well I guess we're making TikToks now. 1450 01:08:10,420 --> 01:08:12,922 Oh my God! 1451 01:08:12,923 --> 01:08:14,216 Okay! 1452 01:08:15,425 --> 01:08:17,176 What it takes to be an artist today, 1453 01:08:17,177 --> 01:08:19,887 you have to be an artist, a singer, an actor, 1454 01:08:19,888 --> 01:08:22,389 an athlete, and a model! 1455 01:08:23,558 --> 01:08:25,142 Sing a song about your dad! 1456 01:08:25,143 --> 01:08:26,478 ♪ Welcome to... ♪ 1457 01:08:28,647 --> 01:08:33,067 Because he's seeing the success of the social media, 1458 01:08:33,068 --> 01:08:35,986 it's pushing him to be like, "I'm fucking right, 1459 01:08:35,987 --> 01:08:37,363 {\an8}let's do more, let's do more." 1460 01:08:37,364 --> 01:08:38,739 {\an8}I'm okay with doing all this stuff, 1461 01:08:38,740 --> 01:08:40,115 you just have to explain to Chuck 1462 01:08:40,116 --> 01:08:41,408 that when you add things, 1463 01:08:41,409 --> 01:08:43,160 at some point you have to subtract other things. 1464 01:08:43,161 --> 01:08:44,829 Walk and stop. 1465 01:08:44,830 --> 01:08:46,413 Okay, three, two, one. 1466 01:08:46,414 --> 01:08:48,541 We're in Brazil, of course we eat Biscoito. 1467 01:08:48,542 --> 01:08:50,334 <i>Bolacha,</i> dude? 1468 01:08:50,335 --> 01:08:54,463 They just still have certain parts of their dynamic 1469 01:08:54,464 --> 01:08:56,674 that they're bringing back from their teenage years. 1470 01:08:56,675 --> 01:08:58,509 I don't have to do anything. I'm fine with it. 1471 01:08:58,510 --> 01:08:59,969 Tell me what you want me to say. 1472 01:08:59,970 --> 01:09:01,846 We don't need pre-show with all this, we're that good. 1473 01:09:01,847 --> 01:09:03,055 We had a pre-show argument! 1474 01:09:03,056 --> 01:09:04,265 They had a band, 1475 01:09:04,266 --> 01:09:05,891 Pierre threw Chuck out of the band, 1476 01:09:05,892 --> 01:09:07,643 that's some hurt right there. 1477 01:09:07,644 --> 01:09:09,270 And I'm not sure it's resolved 1478 01:09:09,271 --> 01:09:11,105 really after all these years. 1479 01:09:11,106 --> 01:09:12,648 It's always been that way. 1480 01:09:17,821 --> 01:09:19,406 Seriously, man. 1481 01:09:22,075 --> 01:09:24,159 You know what? Maybe I'm wrong. Fine. 1482 01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:25,495 You just can't fucking let it go. 1483 01:09:29,291 --> 01:09:31,376 They're always together. 1484 01:09:32,294 --> 01:09:34,962 It really is like a brotherly relationship 1485 01:09:34,963 --> 01:09:36,298 between those two. 1486 01:09:44,681 --> 01:09:46,892 Chuck usually plays a lot better when he's pissed off. 1487 01:09:48,643 --> 01:09:50,311 Pierre's my best friend in the whole world, 1488 01:09:50,312 --> 01:09:53,564 and he's the only guy I played music with for my whole life. 1489 01:09:53,565 --> 01:09:55,566 I cherish that relationship a lot. 1490 01:09:55,567 --> 01:09:58,777 It's hard to be in a band with people you know 1491 01:09:58,778 --> 01:10:00,779 from your high school, because the dynamic 1492 01:10:00,780 --> 01:10:03,617 of teenage years sort of stays. 1493 01:10:04,242 --> 01:10:07,411 My relationship with Chuck has been very difficult 1494 01:10:07,412 --> 01:10:10,497 on me, but it's also been the reason 1495 01:10:10,498 --> 01:10:13,167 why I have accomplished so much in my life. 1496 01:10:13,168 --> 01:10:15,085 Yeah sure, we get into some fights here and there, 1497 01:10:15,086 --> 01:10:17,671 but at the end of the day, we're family. 1498 01:10:19,090 --> 01:10:21,008 I don't care about this thing! 1499 01:10:21,009 --> 01:10:22,676 Easy now, easy now. 1500 01:10:22,677 --> 01:10:24,637 Forever, they will love each other, 1501 01:10:24,638 --> 01:10:26,221 but also they can also hate each other. 1502 01:10:26,222 --> 01:10:29,351 Might be the recipe for their success, right? 1503 01:10:29,976 --> 01:10:31,727 The coolest things I ever did in my life, 1504 01:10:31,728 --> 01:10:33,021 I did with Pierre. 1505 01:10:34,022 --> 01:10:36,982 That tug of war is what created Simple Plan, 1506 01:10:36,983 --> 01:10:38,943 and I don't wanna kick you out of the band, 1507 01:10:38,944 --> 01:10:40,611 you don't want to kick me out of the band, 1508 01:10:40,612 --> 01:10:42,072 we know this is forever. 1509 01:10:47,452 --> 01:10:50,287 Chuck, thank you for being my best friend. 1510 01:10:50,288 --> 01:10:52,165 Thank you for being my business partner. 1511 01:10:53,333 --> 01:10:55,335 Thank you for being my brother, I love you. 1512 01:10:55,543 --> 01:10:56,711 I love you. 1513 01:10:58,296 --> 01:10:59,798 I love you so much! 1514 01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:03,342 I don't know if you know this, but... 1515 01:11:03,343 --> 01:11:05,010 we actually ran for school president, 1516 01:11:05,011 --> 01:11:08,555 me and him. And uh, we won. 1517 01:11:08,556 --> 01:11:11,851 Uh, I was the vice-president, he was the president. 1518 01:11:12,686 --> 01:11:15,187 'Cause I knew he was the, 1519 01:11:15,188 --> 01:11:17,439 he was the guy, right? 1520 01:11:17,440 --> 01:11:20,610 Maybe he has things that I wish I had that I don't. 1521 01:11:22,195 --> 01:11:23,613 You know? 1522 01:11:25,281 --> 01:11:27,950 But I saw it. 1523 01:11:27,951 --> 01:11:30,912 I saw it when I was like 14 years old. 1524 01:11:34,082 --> 01:11:36,834 ♪ I knew it was you ♪ 1525 01:11:36,835 --> 01:11:38,877 -Are you on a mission? -I'm on a mission 1526 01:11:38,878 --> 01:11:40,587 to kick your ass. 1527 01:11:40,588 --> 01:11:41,839 -Whole thing. -The whole thing? 1528 01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:42,965 Go, go, go, go, go! 1529 01:11:42,966 --> 01:11:44,258 Come on in. 1530 01:11:45,427 --> 01:11:46,593 It's not the end. 1531 01:11:46,594 --> 01:11:48,429 ♪ Miss me when I'm gone ♪ 1532 01:11:48,430 --> 01:11:49,638 After the third record, 1533 01:11:49,639 --> 01:11:51,557 we had a band meeting, and we said like, 1534 01:11:51,558 --> 01:11:53,225 "Hey, we gotta make this fun again." 1535 01:11:53,226 --> 01:11:55,310 Otherwise, like I can't do a tour like we just did. 1536 01:11:55,311 --> 01:11:58,355 We gotta get back to having fun on the road, 1537 01:11:58,356 --> 01:11:59,773 having fun as a band. 1538 01:12:12,037 --> 01:12:15,039 And I'm feeling like an astronaut! 1539 01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:16,915 -Hello. -Oh shit, it's Pierre Bouvier! 1540 01:12:16,916 --> 01:12:18,625 Oh my God, let's take a picture. 1541 01:12:18,626 --> 01:12:19,960 This is gonna be such a good concert, 1542 01:12:19,961 --> 01:12:21,211 Can I, are they gonna see this? 1543 01:12:21,212 --> 01:12:22,796 -Probably! -Oh my God, yes! 1544 01:12:22,797 --> 01:12:24,256 So ringside, Summer Paradise, 1545 01:12:24,257 --> 01:12:25,466 such an underrated song. 1546 01:12:35,060 --> 01:12:37,478 The label was like, "Well, maybe we don't," 1547 01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:39,354 we're gonna drop these guys, they don't have hits 1548 01:12:39,355 --> 01:12:41,231 like they used to." And then all of a sudden, boom. 1549 01:12:41,232 --> 01:12:43,859 We're 10, 11 years into our career and all of a sudden, 1550 01:12:43,860 --> 01:12:47,863 we have a hot song again. It kind of saved our career 1551 01:12:47,864 --> 01:12:49,114 to have that song. 1552 01:12:49,115 --> 01:12:50,449 So Sean Paul saved your life? 1553 01:12:50,450 --> 01:12:52,285 Sean Paul saved my life. 1554 01:12:52,786 --> 01:12:55,579 Simple Plan, Sean Paul. Right now, sunset on the beach! 1555 01:12:55,580 --> 01:12:57,748 -Sean Paul and Simple Plan! -Hold on, Pierre! 1556 01:12:57,749 --> 01:12:59,333 Mad ting. Good, man! 1557 01:12:59,334 --> 01:13:01,835 So what song are we tracking today? 1558 01:13:01,836 --> 01:13:04,421 Today is a very special song, it's called, 1559 01:13:04,422 --> 01:13:06,340 "This Song Saved My Life". 1560 01:13:06,341 --> 01:13:08,842 We had this idea of reaching out to our fans and say, 1561 01:13:08,843 --> 01:13:10,594 "Hey, tell us how you feel about the band 1562 01:13:10,595 --> 01:13:12,763 "and what these songs mean to you." And it was like, 1563 01:13:12,764 --> 01:13:15,057 brrr! All these cool ideas 1564 01:13:15,058 --> 01:13:16,600 and concepts for lyrics came up. 1565 01:13:16,601 --> 01:13:19,603 It was a song that was written with the help of our fans. 1566 01:14:23,459 --> 01:14:25,669 It's almost like a celebration of... 1567 01:14:25,670 --> 01:14:27,546 you understand me. 1568 01:14:27,547 --> 01:14:29,590 And when you can find a band, or an artist, 1569 01:14:29,591 --> 01:14:31,383 or something that makes you feel like, 1570 01:14:31,384 --> 01:14:33,719 "Oh my God, I'm not alone in this?" 1571 01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:35,346 That's magic. 1572 01:14:39,058 --> 01:14:40,976 {\an8}In a world full of judgment, 1573 01:14:40,977 --> 01:14:43,478 {\an8}what better thing to give somebody, right? 1574 01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:46,190 Through music, a place to feel part of. 1575 01:14:46,191 --> 01:14:47,733 That's good shit right there, for real. 1576 01:14:47,734 --> 01:14:48,942 Simple Plan! 1577 01:14:48,943 --> 01:14:50,611 What year was it? It was 2005. 1578 01:14:50,612 --> 01:14:51,945 2005. The first time I met 1579 01:14:51,946 --> 01:14:54,239 the boys in Simple Plan, I was in Germany, 1580 01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:56,241 out on festival season. 1581 01:14:57,535 --> 01:14:59,119 What do you think of Simple Plan? 1582 01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:01,663 Okay, all I gotta say is Ditka versus Simple Plan, 1583 01:15:01,664 --> 01:15:03,665 most definitely Simple Plan! 1584 01:15:03,666 --> 01:15:06,168 -Ohhh! -That's what I gotta say! 1585 01:15:06,169 --> 01:15:08,795 There's an authenticity that comes out of Simple Plan. 1586 01:15:08,796 --> 01:15:10,380 -You okay? -Yes! 1587 01:15:10,381 --> 01:15:12,925 It's beautiful what they've done with their music 1588 01:15:12,926 --> 01:15:14,927 and being able to be inclusive, right? 1589 01:15:14,928 --> 01:15:16,637 And it's like, that's special. 1590 01:15:16,638 --> 01:15:17,972 Hi! 1591 01:15:18,598 --> 01:15:19,890 Good to see you, buddy. Thank you. 1592 01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:26,188 We had a PO box for Simple Plan's fan mail. 1593 01:15:26,189 --> 01:15:27,856 The post office would call me: "Mr. Comeau, 1594 01:15:27,857 --> 01:15:30,108 there's a lot of mail." 1595 01:15:30,109 --> 01:15:32,153 There were literally bags of letters. 1596 01:15:32,779 --> 01:15:34,988 That's when I realized 1597 01:15:34,989 --> 01:15:38,033 how much of an impact they were having on kids around the world. 1598 01:15:38,034 --> 01:15:39,326 "Your music comforted me 1599 01:15:39,327 --> 01:15:40,452 in the moments I needed..." 1600 01:15:40,453 --> 01:15:42,037 I feel like listening to Simple Plan 1601 01:15:42,038 --> 01:15:45,415 has shaped me as a person so much. 1602 01:15:45,416 --> 01:15:47,209 I like keeping my feelings to myself. 1603 01:15:47,210 --> 01:15:50,128 By listening to the songs that talked about how I felt, 1604 01:15:50,129 --> 01:15:51,297 I felt heard. 1605 01:15:52,715 --> 01:15:55,550 "This Song Saved My Life" just pieced together for me 1606 01:15:55,551 --> 01:15:58,262 everything that I've always felt about this band, 1607 01:15:58,263 --> 01:15:59,888 and everything that they mean to me 1608 01:15:59,889 --> 01:16:01,723 and they've done for me. 1609 01:16:01,724 --> 01:16:03,684 I don't think I would have gotten through that if it wasn't 1610 01:16:03,685 --> 01:16:05,060 for these guys. 1611 01:16:05,061 --> 01:16:06,979 Life gets tough, you know what I'm saying? 1612 01:16:06,980 --> 01:16:09,356 It's like... I even, one of their songs, 1613 01:16:09,357 --> 01:16:13,277 "Nobody knows when I'm alone in the world", 1614 01:16:13,278 --> 01:16:15,445 you know what I'm saying? It's like, that feeling 1615 01:16:15,446 --> 01:16:17,739 of loneliness and like, putting yourself in this song, 1616 01:16:17,740 --> 01:16:21,201 and all of a sudden you feel part of. 1617 01:16:21,202 --> 01:16:22,828 You know what I mean? 1618 01:16:22,829 --> 01:16:27,916 They're a cornerstone for a lot of people's growing up. 1619 01:16:27,917 --> 01:16:31,420 And Simple Plan helped propel 1620 01:16:31,421 --> 01:16:34,423 a generation of people 1621 01:16:34,424 --> 01:16:36,508 that might have felt misunderstood. 1622 01:16:36,509 --> 01:16:40,012 I connected with feelings that I've felt before, 1623 01:16:40,013 --> 01:16:42,389 and I was a kid. I just wanted to hug them 1624 01:16:42,390 --> 01:16:44,558 and tell them, like, "You molded me. 1625 01:16:44,559 --> 01:16:46,518 You helped me through a lot." 1626 01:16:46,519 --> 01:16:48,603 I've struggled with a lot of mental health issues, 1627 01:16:48,604 --> 01:16:51,398 so it's really meant a lot. 1628 01:16:51,399 --> 01:16:54,443 You just kind of know that there's someone always with you. 1629 01:16:54,444 --> 01:16:56,236 By hearing their songs, it just reminds me 1630 01:16:56,237 --> 01:16:58,447 that there's something for someone out there 1631 01:16:58,448 --> 01:17:01,241 to remind you that life is worth living. 1632 01:17:01,242 --> 01:17:04,286 They have been with me since, all through my self-harm. 1633 01:17:04,287 --> 01:17:06,788 Oh yeah, I'll never forget like, the feeling 1634 01:17:06,789 --> 01:17:08,665 when I first found them. 1635 01:17:08,666 --> 01:17:11,419 I never thought I'd even be alive to see them. 1636 01:17:14,839 --> 01:17:16,715 As I read their mail, 1637 01:17:16,716 --> 01:17:18,467 there were quite a few letters 1638 01:17:18,468 --> 01:17:20,469 sad letters. 1639 01:17:20,470 --> 01:17:24,514 It led to the idea of setting up the Simple Plan Foundation. 1640 01:17:24,515 --> 01:17:29,311 That's another thing Simple Plan has allowed me to embrace: 1641 01:17:29,312 --> 01:17:30,813 philanthropy. 1642 01:17:33,191 --> 01:17:34,775 {\an8}Ladies and gentlemen, the 2012 recipients 1643 01:17:34,776 --> 01:17:36,610 {\an8}of the Alan Waters Humanitarian Award, 1644 01:17:36,611 --> 01:17:39,196 {\an8}please welcome Simple Plan! 1645 01:17:39,197 --> 01:17:40,864 We have a lot of thank-yous to say, 1646 01:17:40,865 --> 01:17:42,115 but I wanna say first off, 1647 01:17:42,116 --> 01:17:43,450 thank you to Chuck's parents. 1648 01:17:43,451 --> 01:17:45,328 We couldn't do this without you. 1649 01:17:45,661 --> 01:17:47,746 We had no idea how rewarding 1650 01:17:47,747 --> 01:17:49,706 and gratifying getting involved 1651 01:17:49,707 --> 01:17:50,999 and giving back would be. 1652 01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:52,125 Our foundation has become 1653 01:17:52,126 --> 01:17:54,586 an integral part of who we are as a band, 1654 01:17:54,587 --> 01:17:56,046 and as people, 1655 01:17:56,047 --> 01:17:57,506 and we're determined to keep it that way. 1656 01:17:57,507 --> 01:18:00,634 Aww, you got all the red ink on me! 1657 01:18:00,635 --> 01:18:03,345 It's pretty amazing how lucky we've been. 1658 01:18:03,346 --> 01:18:06,098 We were the kids in the crowd, and somehow, 1659 01:18:06,099 --> 01:18:07,265 we got on stage. 1660 01:18:07,266 --> 01:18:08,683 How you guys doing, you alright? 1661 01:18:08,684 --> 01:18:10,435 -Yeah! -Want me to do it? 1662 01:18:10,436 --> 01:18:11,729 Yeah, 'cause I'm shaking! 1663 01:18:13,189 --> 01:18:16,066 I don't think we ever lost the connection, 1664 01:18:16,067 --> 01:18:18,110 or we ever forgot 1665 01:18:18,111 --> 01:18:20,695 what it's like to be a fan of a band. 1666 01:18:20,696 --> 01:18:22,072 Thanks for sharing that, appreciate it. 1667 01:18:22,073 --> 01:18:23,448 -Thank you. -Stay strong, huh? 1668 01:18:23,449 --> 01:18:24,866 -Thank you! -Okay, you got this. 1669 01:18:24,867 --> 01:18:26,952 It's her dream to meet you. 1670 01:18:26,953 --> 01:18:28,412 How you doing, you good? 1671 01:18:28,413 --> 01:18:29,831 Yeah! 1672 01:18:31,499 --> 01:18:32,999 What's going on? 1673 01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:34,376 -She's pregnant! -Don't cry, 1674 01:18:34,377 --> 01:18:36,128 I'm gonna start crying too! 1675 01:18:36,129 --> 01:18:37,754 What's that old deal about 1676 01:18:37,755 --> 01:18:39,423 being a rock star and not being able 1677 01:18:39,424 --> 01:18:41,216 to talk to people who come to see your shows? 1678 01:18:41,217 --> 01:18:43,260 I think it's just like very artificial, 1679 01:18:43,261 --> 01:18:45,220 and we don't buy into that. 1680 01:18:45,221 --> 01:18:47,097 To me, to go out and spend an hour, 1681 01:18:47,098 --> 01:18:48,473 an hour or two every show, 1682 01:18:48,474 --> 01:18:50,058 and sign and talk and get to know 1683 01:18:50,059 --> 01:18:51,059 who likes your band, 1684 01:18:51,060 --> 01:18:52,352 that's probably my favourite part 1685 01:18:52,353 --> 01:18:54,396 of playing shows. -How are you? 1686 01:18:54,397 --> 01:18:56,731 I feel like that's why they're so relatable 1687 01:18:56,732 --> 01:18:58,233 to so many different people, 1688 01:18:58,234 --> 01:19:00,610 is that they remind them of themselves. 1689 01:19:00,611 --> 01:19:03,113 I genuinely believe that these are the people 1690 01:19:03,114 --> 01:19:04,823 that they are, and they love what they're doing, 1691 01:19:04,824 --> 01:19:06,908 and they love their fans. 1692 01:19:08,244 --> 01:19:09,953 Thank you, thank you very much! 1693 01:19:09,954 --> 01:19:11,705 No way! I get to pick one? -Yeah! 1694 01:19:11,706 --> 01:19:13,457 -Nice, sweet! -Thank you so much! 1695 01:19:13,458 --> 01:19:15,000 Thanks for coming out. Enjoy the show, alright? 1696 01:19:15,001 --> 01:19:16,201 You're a fucking legend, man! 1697 01:19:17,086 --> 01:19:19,129 Take your time. Aww! 1698 01:19:20,131 --> 01:19:22,048 I'm going to cry! 1699 01:19:22,049 --> 01:19:23,216 You good? 1700 01:19:24,302 --> 01:19:25,928 There. You alright, buddy? 1701 01:19:26,971 --> 01:19:28,054 Hey, we're in LA. 1702 01:19:28,055 --> 01:19:29,222 ♪ Hey, we're in LA ♪ 1703 01:19:29,223 --> 01:19:30,640 We're making our fifth record. 1704 01:19:30,641 --> 01:19:32,267 ♪ We're making our fifth record ♪ 1705 01:19:32,268 --> 01:19:33,518 And it's going really awesome. 1706 01:19:33,519 --> 01:19:34,644 ♪ It's going pretty good ♪ 1707 01:19:34,645 --> 01:19:35,812 Ooh! 1708 01:19:35,813 --> 01:19:37,439 It was sort of a throwback 1709 01:19:37,440 --> 01:19:38,733 to the very first album. 1710 01:19:39,358 --> 01:19:41,318 We're all just living at Chuck's house, 1711 01:19:41,319 --> 01:19:42,569 going to the studio every day. 1712 01:19:42,570 --> 01:19:43,904 I remember, specifically 1713 01:19:43,905 --> 01:19:44,905 writing the song "Boom". 1714 01:19:44,906 --> 01:19:46,239 It's one of my favorite songs. 1715 01:19:54,499 --> 01:19:57,167 That song relates to my relationship with my wife, 1716 01:19:57,168 --> 01:20:00,712 and how I feel like after all this time, 1717 01:20:00,713 --> 01:20:02,380 still crazy about you. 1718 01:20:09,931 --> 01:20:11,973 My kid loved the song too. Boom-boom-boom! 1719 01:20:14,101 --> 01:20:16,019 {\an8}We made it! 1720 01:20:16,020 --> 01:20:17,521 {\an8}We're in LA, people. 1721 01:20:17,522 --> 01:20:19,231 -I was here last week! -What's up, daddy? 1722 01:20:19,232 --> 01:20:20,690 -I'm the car. -Doot, doot, doot, doot. 1723 01:20:20,691 --> 01:20:21,858 Good, good, good, good, good. 1724 01:20:21,859 --> 01:20:23,109 Will you come to the studio? 1725 01:20:23,110 --> 01:20:23,944 Yeah! 1726 01:20:29,367 --> 01:20:31,117 Funny enough, I was a dishwasher 1727 01:20:31,118 --> 01:20:32,369 before I was in a band. 1728 01:20:32,370 --> 01:20:34,162 Harder than it looks! 1729 01:20:37,750 --> 01:20:41,253 We were tired, we were sick of being embarrassed 1730 01:20:41,254 --> 01:20:43,046 of sounding like Simple Plan, 1731 01:20:43,047 --> 01:20:45,799 or thinking that was a problem. And we just said, 1732 01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:47,551 "Fuck it, we're gonna embrace it." 1733 01:20:47,552 --> 01:20:50,428 And we're gonna make the most quintessential 1734 01:20:50,429 --> 01:20:51,805 Simple Plan record. 1735 01:20:51,806 --> 01:20:54,015 On this record, I think it was time for me 1736 01:20:54,016 --> 01:20:55,892 to step into that role, 1737 01:20:55,893 --> 01:20:58,520 in a place of confidence, where in the past, 1738 01:20:58,521 --> 01:21:00,522 I had always done it, but I felt like 1739 01:21:00,523 --> 01:21:02,566 I even myself just brushed it off. 1740 01:21:02,567 --> 01:21:05,819 Now, I've come to a place in my ability to be like, 1741 01:21:05,820 --> 01:21:07,655 "No, I'm producing this record." 1742 01:21:08,739 --> 01:21:11,825 Let's do this on our own. 1743 01:21:11,826 --> 01:21:14,452 I think it's my favorite album that we've ever made. 1744 01:21:14,453 --> 01:21:17,373 And we had no idea what was coming up. 1745 01:21:22,295 --> 01:21:26,673 Uh, one day in July, 2020, I got a call from Chuck. 1746 01:21:26,674 --> 01:21:29,009 And he says, "You and I need to talk about something, 1747 01:21:29,010 --> 01:21:31,136 we need to pay attention to something." 1748 01:21:31,137 --> 01:21:34,431 Something's going down, and it involves David. 1749 01:21:34,432 --> 01:21:37,559 SIMPLE PLAN'S BASSIST 1750 01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:40,770 QUITS THE BAND AMID ALLEGATIONS 1751 01:21:40,771 --> 01:21:45,108 I mean, so many different emotions 1752 01:21:45,109 --> 01:21:46,276 went through my head. 1753 01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:52,575 I was devastated. 1754 01:21:55,536 --> 01:21:58,331 It was really hard to accept. 1755 01:22:01,208 --> 01:22:05,838 It was like the biggest crisis that we've ever encountered. 1756 01:22:07,381 --> 01:22:09,466 We had to make a decision at the time, 1757 01:22:09,467 --> 01:22:11,510 for him to step back from the band. 1758 01:22:12,595 --> 01:22:14,721 I kind of understood rationally 1759 01:22:14,722 --> 01:22:16,598 what needed to happen, 1760 01:22:16,599 --> 01:22:18,768 and that made me very, very sad. 1761 01:22:19,644 --> 01:22:21,311 I had been touring 1762 01:22:21,312 --> 01:22:23,813 for the better part of my adult life with David. 1763 01:22:23,814 --> 01:22:28,234 You don't let go of 20 plus years of touring 1764 01:22:28,235 --> 01:22:30,029 without a lot of hurt. 1765 01:22:30,780 --> 01:22:32,530 Do you think it's safe? 1766 01:22:32,531 --> 01:22:34,115 Do it. 1767 01:22:34,116 --> 01:22:35,367 Careful, Charles, I don't want to fall. 1768 01:22:35,368 --> 01:22:36,494 Go. 1769 01:22:36,994 --> 01:22:38,662 It was kind of like a trauma 1770 01:22:38,663 --> 01:22:39,788 for everybody, 1771 01:22:39,789 --> 01:22:41,539 and I think it was kind of like a shock. 1772 01:22:41,540 --> 01:22:43,917 And it made us want to be 1773 01:22:43,918 --> 01:22:45,585 the best version of ourselves, 1774 01:22:45,586 --> 01:22:48,380 and make sure that our shows 1775 01:22:48,381 --> 01:22:51,634 and everything that surrounds this band is a safe space. 1776 01:23:41,308 --> 01:23:42,727 It's quite beautiful. 1777 01:23:52,111 --> 01:23:56,030 We were always very serious about what the band was, 1778 01:23:56,031 --> 01:24:00,660 and what the band had to do, but not so much personally, 1779 01:24:00,661 --> 01:24:02,455 or as people. 1780 01:24:03,914 --> 01:24:06,625 I'll miss you a lot. 1781 01:24:19,930 --> 01:24:22,140 It is very pretty, isn't it? 1782 01:24:22,141 --> 01:24:24,434 It's fun when people put a lot of resources 1783 01:24:24,435 --> 01:24:26,352 into creating something very magical. 1784 01:24:26,353 --> 01:24:28,062 When we first started the band, 1785 01:24:28,063 --> 01:24:29,481 we were married to each other, 1786 01:24:29,482 --> 01:24:31,816 in some weird way, and to the career. 1787 01:24:31,817 --> 01:24:34,110 And as we all developed lives on the outside, 1788 01:24:34,111 --> 01:24:36,321 when you have large responsibilities like children, 1789 01:24:36,322 --> 01:24:38,323 children are everything, and now I don't want to go 1790 01:24:38,324 --> 01:24:40,700 on tour as much 'cause I don't wanna be gone too much. 1791 01:24:44,121 --> 01:24:47,333 I always saw myself as someone who's on tour. 1792 01:24:47,750 --> 01:24:50,419 I was in a band, on the road and sometimes I'd go home. 1793 01:24:51,086 --> 01:24:53,713 Now, I'm a husband and a father. 1794 01:24:53,714 --> 01:24:56,759 I love being at home. And sometimes, I go on tour. 1795 01:24:57,510 --> 01:25:00,303 Do you like being on tour? You like the pace? 1796 01:25:00,304 --> 01:25:02,514 -Yeah, you like it! -I love it! 1797 01:25:02,515 --> 01:25:04,349 I'm so happy you're here. 1798 01:25:04,350 --> 01:25:07,602 Being together makes it so much better. 1799 01:25:07,603 --> 01:25:09,896 Instead of video calls, you're here. 1800 01:25:09,897 --> 01:25:12,566 It changes everything. 1801 01:25:13,442 --> 01:25:15,985 Being a dad has inspired me to be 1802 01:25:15,986 --> 01:25:18,613 a better member of the band Simple Plan, 1803 01:25:18,614 --> 01:25:21,366 to be a harder working man, 1804 01:25:21,367 --> 01:25:23,702 and to just be better as a human, you know? 1805 01:25:29,708 --> 01:25:31,000 Appreciate it. 1806 01:25:31,001 --> 01:25:32,919 We went to being this little 1807 01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:34,420 band in the basement 1808 01:25:34,421 --> 01:25:36,464 to people getting to know us. 1809 01:25:36,465 --> 01:25:39,634 I was a really, really shy guy before, 1810 01:25:39,635 --> 01:25:41,678 now I'm just really shy. 1811 01:25:41,679 --> 01:25:42,972 You know? 1812 01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:48,726 I kind of always approached it, the band is famous. 1813 01:25:48,727 --> 01:25:50,645 I'm very incognito. 1814 01:25:50,646 --> 01:25:52,856 It still happens to this day that I'll be at a coffee shop 1815 01:25:52,857 --> 01:25:54,774 with Pierre, and people recognize him, 1816 01:25:54,775 --> 01:25:56,526 and I'm the one taking the picture! 1817 01:25:56,527 --> 01:25:58,486 It's like, they don't see it and that's okay, 1818 01:25:58,487 --> 01:25:59,946 like, it makes me laugh. 1819 01:26:01,991 --> 01:26:04,868 Chuck gave me a stat, he told me that we've played 1820 01:26:04,869 --> 01:26:07,496 234 shows over the last two years. 1821 01:26:09,665 --> 01:26:11,666 That's insane. 1822 01:26:11,667 --> 01:26:14,961 That's just crazy, like how do you manage personal lives? 1823 01:26:14,962 --> 01:26:17,797 We didn't, like, it was just impossible, it's very hard. 1824 01:26:17,798 --> 01:26:20,466 But family life, personal life, 1825 01:26:20,467 --> 01:26:23,971 being in a band, like, what a weird life that is. 1826 01:26:25,264 --> 01:26:28,516 We'd play those super crazy shows, 1827 01:26:28,517 --> 01:26:31,770 and we come back home, and we're stay-at-home dads. 1828 01:26:39,570 --> 01:26:42,698 <i>-Hello!</i> -Hi London, how's it going? 1829 01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:44,867 <i>-Good.</i> -Look. 1830 01:26:46,577 --> 01:26:47,994 Cute, right? 1831 01:26:47,995 --> 01:26:49,829 They're all photos of you. 1832 01:26:49,830 --> 01:26:51,247 I think it's important for him, 1833 01:26:51,248 --> 01:26:52,665 you know, it's like, 1834 01:26:52,666 --> 01:26:54,208 "Hey, I'm thinking about you. Even if I'm not there, 1835 01:26:54,209 --> 01:26:55,084 you're always on my mind." 1836 01:26:55,085 --> 01:26:56,252 I love you. 1837 01:26:56,253 --> 01:26:58,464 And I call my dad and my mom every night. 1838 01:26:58,672 --> 01:27:00,048 I just got to the hotel, 1839 01:27:00,049 --> 01:27:01,549 just wanted to say good night. 1840 01:27:01,550 --> 01:27:04,010 When Simple Plan was starting up, 1841 01:27:04,011 --> 01:27:06,554 Chuck was definitely leaving something 1842 01:27:06,555 --> 01:27:09,182 a little more significant behind than I was, 1843 01:27:09,183 --> 01:27:12,185 because he was going to law school, so I think Chuck 1844 01:27:12,186 --> 01:27:14,604 was tapping into the fact that like, my parents 1845 01:27:14,605 --> 01:27:16,606 don't understand me, they don't understand 1846 01:27:16,607 --> 01:27:17,857 what I want to do. 1847 01:27:17,858 --> 01:27:21,027 The dream was so big 1848 01:27:21,028 --> 01:27:24,698 that it eclipsed everything else in his life. 1849 01:27:24,865 --> 01:27:27,385 I wanna drop out, I wanna be in a rock band. 1850 01:27:27,826 --> 01:27:32,038 I get it. Like, in his world, it wasn't possible. 1851 01:27:32,039 --> 01:27:36,335 I think he didn't want me to fuck up my life. 1852 01:27:37,503 --> 01:27:39,420 Charles would come upstairs 1853 01:27:39,421 --> 01:27:40,672 to do his homework, 1854 01:27:40,673 --> 01:27:42,353 "I'm dropping out of school." 1855 01:27:42,716 --> 01:27:44,467 "No, Charles, you're not." 1856 01:27:44,468 --> 01:27:46,845 He explained that music couldn't wait, it had to happen now. 1857 01:27:47,805 --> 01:27:50,974 I remember Sébastien wanting to study engineering. 1858 01:27:50,975 --> 01:27:53,643 Jeff was at the Classical Music Conservatory. 1859 01:27:53,644 --> 01:27:57,188 At home, I was the one encouraging them. 1860 01:27:57,189 --> 01:28:00,734 I felt slightly guilty towards the other parents. 1861 01:28:01,235 --> 01:28:02,444 He makes beautiful songs. 1862 01:28:04,196 --> 01:28:07,324 {\an8}And the lyrics, they hit home... 1863 01:28:08,701 --> 01:28:11,078 {\an8}not only for me, but for a lot of other people as well. 1864 01:28:12,871 --> 01:28:14,122 That's it. 1865 01:28:14,123 --> 01:28:15,540 My dad is the biggest 1866 01:28:15,541 --> 01:28:16,958 Simple Plan fan ever. 1867 01:28:16,959 --> 01:28:18,251 My mom had to finally stop him 1868 01:28:18,252 --> 01:28:20,503 from laminating every single article 1869 01:28:20,504 --> 01:28:21,713 or things he would find. 1870 01:28:21,714 --> 01:28:23,297 There was a literal shrine of me 1871 01:28:23,298 --> 01:28:26,009 going up the hallway and the stairs. 1872 01:28:26,010 --> 01:28:28,386 I think about my dad during "Perfect", 1873 01:28:28,387 --> 01:28:31,806 and I wish he would have seen this whole thing unfold. 1874 01:28:31,807 --> 01:28:35,269 I kind of have a feeling that he's kind of there somewhere. 1875 01:28:36,645 --> 01:28:39,105 We have to nurture our kid's dreams 1876 01:28:39,106 --> 01:28:41,400 to see where those dreams will lead us. 1877 01:28:42,109 --> 01:28:43,901 I definitely put 1878 01:28:43,902 --> 01:28:45,404 my parent's through the wringer. 1879 01:28:47,698 --> 01:28:51,242 It led to like, one of the most important songs we ever wrote. 1880 01:30:16,620 --> 01:30:19,915 Everybody make some noise! 1881 01:31:14,052 --> 01:31:16,762 This is our first practice for the song called "Perfect", 1882 01:31:16,763 --> 01:31:19,015 and just as you can see, it's not perfect yet. 1883 01:31:19,016 --> 01:31:21,100 This is my basement, 1884 01:31:21,101 --> 01:31:23,853 we've been practicing here for 10 years, 1885 01:31:23,854 --> 01:31:25,813 and this band, probably three years. 1886 01:31:25,814 --> 01:31:27,523 And my parents hate it! 1887 01:31:27,524 --> 01:31:29,358 We gotta keep on working, so get out of here! 1888 01:31:29,359 --> 01:31:31,068 That's good for the end. 1889 01:31:31,069 --> 01:31:32,486 Let's keep on touring, though. 1890 01:31:46,001 --> 01:31:48,920 {\an8}Simple Plan! Simple Plan! 1891 01:31:48,921 --> 01:31:54,634 Simple Plan! Simple Plan! 1892 01:31:57,137 --> 01:32:00,097 We are so grateful to be here, 1893 01:32:00,098 --> 01:32:02,433 because there was a time 1894 01:32:02,434 --> 01:32:04,310 when we didn't know how to fit in. 1895 01:32:04,311 --> 01:32:06,520 And we found a home in this music, 1896 01:32:06,521 --> 01:32:08,564 in this music scene here. 1897 01:32:10,943 --> 01:32:13,361 And I don't know, I don't know where you are from, 1898 01:32:13,362 --> 01:32:16,822 how long you had to travel to get here today, 1899 01:32:16,823 --> 01:32:20,201 but I can tell you one thing right here, right now. 1900 01:32:20,202 --> 01:32:22,286 All of you guys, all of us, 1901 01:32:22,287 --> 01:32:25,081 this is where we belong! 1902 01:32:27,376 --> 01:32:29,377 So put your hands up!