"Mysteries at the Museum" Cold War Secrets
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Movie Name | "Mysteries at the Museum" Cold War Secrets |
Release Name | Mysteries.at.the.Museum.S20E20.Cold.War.Secrets.1080p.Travel.WEB-DL.AAC2.0.H.264-Absinth |
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Language | English |
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During the second half
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of the 20th Century, the U.S. and Soviet Union
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armed themselves with enough nuclear weapons
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to destroy the planet a hundred times over.
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It shall be the policy of this nation
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to regard any nuclear missile
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launched against any nation in the Western Hemisphere
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as an attack by the Soviet Union on the United States.
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WILDMAN: It's a span of history known as the Cold War.
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I'm on a mission to reveal some
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of the most closely guarded secrets of the Cold War.
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This is actually an atomic-, biological-
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chemical-weapons- proof bunker.
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Find out how close we came to nuclear annihilation.
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All the tension comes down to this,
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to tanks facing off in the streets of Berlin.
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Gas, gas, gas!
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Discover how the Cold War began
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and whether it really ever ended.
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I'm Don Wildman.
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I've explored the world's greatest mysteries,
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examined rare artifacts
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and epic monuments.
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That is unbelievable.
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Now, I'm digging deeper into some of the most perplexing
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and famous cases in history.
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My goal? To get closer to the truth.
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Let's burn this place down.
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Burn it down.
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On this special episode of "Mysteries at the Museum,"
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"Cold War Secrets."
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There may be no greater rivalry in history
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than the one between the United States of America
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and the Soviet Union.
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-Mr. Gorbachev,
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tear down this wall.
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For almost 50 years, it created global catastrophes,
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gave rise to a new type of warfare,
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and divided the world in two.
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NEWSREADER: German troops took control of the key section
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of the Berlin Wall
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at the Brandenburg Gate early this morning.
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When most people think of the Cold War,
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they think of famous names like Stalin,
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Reagan,
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Gorbachev.
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They think of spies and espionage,
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and of nuclear weapons.
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But, how much do we know about what really happened?
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Because, whether we realize it or not,
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the Cold War has shaped all our lives
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and, if a few key decisions had been made differently,
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we might not even be here at all.
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Much of the Cold War was shrouded in secrecy.
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Now, 30 years on, top-secret files are being declassified,
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helping to answer some important questions,
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like "How did it start?"
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The Cold War officially began in 1947,
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but, a few years earlier,
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the United States and the Soviet Union
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had joined forces to defeat the Axis powers
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of Germany, Italy, and Japan, during World War II.
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So, how could allies become enemies so quickly?
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How you doing? -Nice to meet you.
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-Thank you very much. -Welcome to Zossen.
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-Military historian Nick Jackson
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has lived in Berlin for over 20 years
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and is an expert on its wartime past.
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He's brought me 25 miles south of Berlin,
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to the ruined bunker complex at Zossen.
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Close to Berlin, but hidden away in the forest,
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this strategic site was chosen by Hitler
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as the headquarters
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for the Supreme High Command of his German Army.
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It was the Nazi equivalent of the Pentagon,
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packed full of state-of-the-art German communications equipment.
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In July 1945,
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the Allies held a conference a few miles from here,
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at Potsdam.
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There, the big-three heads of state
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carved up postwar Germany.
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Zossen fell under Soviet control.
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So, World War II ends, Germans defeated,
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the Soviets come into this part, yeah?
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Yeah, and you can see what they did because,
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almost immediately after World War II,
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the Allied Control Council of the Four Powers in Berlin
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decided that it'd be a good idea
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to get rid of military- strength buildings,
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mainly left from World War II,
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and that was called Directive 22.
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And, very quickly after the war,
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end of '45, '46,
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these houses were then deliberately destroyed.
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Intentionally knocking down strategic Nazi sites,
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like Zossen, was meant to be a sign
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the U.S. and Soviets were serious about peace.
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But, in 1946, tensions between the countries were running high.
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U.S. President Harry S Truman
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was worried about the spread of communism.
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We are united in detesting Communist slavery.
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WILDMAN: Whereas Soviet leader Joseph Stalin
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hated the fact that the U.S. was the only country
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in the world with the atomic bomb.
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So, while the destruction as Zossen
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made it look like the Soviet Union
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was keeping up its end of the bargain...
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It's an underground bunker?
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That's right.
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...beneath the surface,
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it was a different story.
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Here we go. In we go.
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Because, at Zossen, the Nazis had also built
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an underground complex of top-secret bunkers.
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And, quietly, the Soviets repurposed them.
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Each subterranean floor is the size of a football field.
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Holy mother, look how deep this thing goes.
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That's about 40, 50, feet down, and three different levels.
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The Soviets turned Zossen back into a high-tech
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military installation and, later, in the Cold War,
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all air-patrol operations along the crucial Western border
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were controlled from here.
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In 1947, relations between the U.S. and the Soviet Union
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broke down further when Truman introduced the Marshall Plan,
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an economic aid package to rebuild war-torn Europe.
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Stalin wouldn't allow
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any countries under his control to accept the money
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and, instead, tightened his grip on Eastern Europe.
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From Stettin in the Baltic
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to Trieste in the Adriatic,
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So, these two former allies are now enemies watching each other.
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That's right. As tensions start
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to rise in the years after World War II,
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both sides start making sure
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they're got the information,
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fearing the other is about to launch a strike.
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But the real catalyst for the Cold War happened in 1949.
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That is the moment the Soviet Union
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finally developed
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a nuclear bomb of its own.
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When the Soviet Union got the atomic bomb,
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it ended the U.S. monopoly on nuclear weapons,
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but both countries quickly realized that,
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if war did break out,
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it could end with both sides being wiped off the map.
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It created a stalemate.
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That's why it's called the Cold War.
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The nuclear standoff between the U.S. and Soviet Union
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was at the heart of the Cold War.
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One false move could lead to nuclear annihilation,
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so both countries wanted to know
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how many nukes the other side had
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and where they were positioned.
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But the problem was --
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How do they find out?
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The answer was spies.
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The Cold War became the age of espionage
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and the best place to find information
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was Berlin.
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That's because, at the end of World War II,
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none of the Allies wanted to give up a presence here,
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so the city was divided into four sectors --
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one for each of the occupying nations,
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British, French,
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U.S., and Soviet.
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In reality, though, there were two halves.
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It created a tense environment where East and West
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came into contact like nowhere else in the world.
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And, at one point, the U.S. had
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15 separate intelligence agencies working here.
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As the front line of the Cold War,
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Berlin acquired a reputation
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as the capital city of espionage.
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So, what was it like to be a spy here,
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in this city of spies, during the Cold War?
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Treptow Park, in former East Berlin,
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was a popular meeting place for spies.
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It's also home to the Soviet War Memorial,
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a tribute to the 80,000 Red Army soldiers who died
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in the 1945 Battle for Berlin.
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I'm here to meet Nigel Dunkley,
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who served in the British military
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and was stationed in Berlin during the Cold War.
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So, you worked in Berlin back in the day.
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Yeah, back in the day.
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What years?
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I first came here in about 1978.
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I was then deployed into Communist East Germany
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as a covert intelligence- gathering agent or officer.
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We don't like the word spy,
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but that's basically what we were.
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-You were a spy. Okay. -We were a spy.
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And what were you looking for?
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Why were you spying?
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The top of the list was, of course, nuclear weapons.
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What kind of nuclear weapons were they,
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were they tactical, battlefield nuclear weapons
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or were they intercontinental ballistic missiles?
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-Yeah. -Did they have all
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of those types of nuclear weapons?
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And the answer is yes, they had nukes.
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Yes, they did, and we had to, therefore,
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go and confirm what was being seen
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from satellites, which, in those days,
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was probably just a fairly fuzzy image
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with not too much detail.
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So, you were the eyes and ears,
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on the ground, -Yes.
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-of the West. -Yeah.
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WILDMAN: Much of the Soviet nuclear arsenal
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didn't have the range to be launched from Moscow.
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Instead, the Soviets placed their weapons
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as close to the West as they could.
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It was up to spies, like Nigel, to find out where they were.
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Today, we're driving 50 miles south of Berlin,
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to a place called Jueterbog,
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an area where Nigel conducted covert operations.
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During the Cold War, it was a garrison town
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for the Red Army, housing around 40,000 troops,
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making it the largest contingent of military
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outside the Soviet Union.
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And, hidden deep in the surrounding forest,
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lay some of their most closely guarded secrets.
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So, we just pulled off the public highway.
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This normally would be
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looking quite innocent here, this kind of thing.
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-Yeah. -We would start creeping
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through the woods.
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We would have the lights off.
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We'd make sure that it was low-key
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and as covert as possible.
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I feel like we're doin' somethin' wrong here.
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Good. That's a good feeling.
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It's exciting.
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So, this would have been
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crawling with military, obviously.
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Yes.
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I'm spying in East Germany.
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Getting deeper and deeper into trouble here.
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Not even this car can get past this.
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All right, we're goin' for a walk.
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This is not new.
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This was here at the time,
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as a last-ditch
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-To block off. -vehicle block, yeah.
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I can see, from the barbed wire fencing,
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that we're moving towards something here.
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Ever closer. Ever closer, yeah.
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So, average, you know, German forest, right?
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Nothin' much out here.
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But then you start to see this -- these features.
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Look, this is the old barbed wire.
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It stretches the whole perimeter.
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You can see these posts are all the way along here.
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And look at this, this old guard outpost.
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What's distinctive about this?
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It's still camouflaged.
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Look, it's still painted with the camouflage,
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to keep this from being photographed from the air.
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And what all this is, this barbed wire fencing,
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these pillboxes, these guard sentry posts, is
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guarding that mound of earth over there,
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which is a Soviet warhead bunker.
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I'm on a mission to reveal some
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of the most closely guarded secrets of the Cold War,
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and they don't get much more protected than this.
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Wow, look at that.
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In recent years, we've learned the clandestine work
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carried out by spies during the Cold War.
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It's giving us a unique insight
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into top-secret strategic military installations,
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like the nuclear weapons storage facility at Jueterbog.
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Here we go.
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Wow, look at that blast door, right off the bat.
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Isn't that fantastic? Look at that.
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Look at the size of the hinges as well.
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-Yeah. So they were -Check that out.
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seriously worried about gettin'
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-Yeah. -attacked here.
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-Wow. Look at that. -Yep, there it is.
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That's incredible.
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Spooky place.
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-Spooky place, isn't it? - God.
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And, when you think about it,
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you are in the absolute epicenter
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of what was the most important weapon,
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throughout the Cold War,
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that the Soviets had -Yeah.
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to be used against us, and that's nuclear weapon
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warhead storage we've got here.
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I mean, when you're talkin' about
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what the Cold War was all about, it was about a place like this.
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Absolutely correct, yeah.
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-Crazy! -Absolutely correct.
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And you were snoopin' the whole time.
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We were snooping.
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The nuclear warheads stored at Jueterbog
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were intended for missiles aimed at key targets
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in the West, like Paris and London.
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So, this is where the warheads were stored.
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So, basically, they'd come in on the crane.
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Yeah, on the overhead gantry, lowered down,
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and then, finally, put into the storage
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-Okay. -facilities on both sides.
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How many am I talkin' about, here?
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Each storage bay -- there are four of them --
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I think, held about 139 warheads.
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In each? There's three rooms.
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In each of these. There are four of them, actually.
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So, there's hundreds of warheads down here.
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Yes, absolutely.
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This is why it was so spectacularly
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sensitive and important.
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The full extent of the Soviet nuclear capabilities
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at Jueterbog was only discovered
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when the troops finally left in 1992.
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This is incredible. I mean, you're
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basically standing at the heart of the Cold War.
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I mean, the information, the spying,
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all the espionage, was being conducted
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in order to find out what was being held in this very space.
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So wild.
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Nuclear weapons were one source of tension during the Cold War;
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differing ideologies were another.
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The U.S. feared the spread of Communism,
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leading to many pivotal Cold War events,
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like the Bay of Pigs and the Vietnam War.
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It was also behind one of the war's most iconic structures --
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the Berlin Wall.
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It was erected in August 1961 by the East German government,
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in an attempt to stop thousands of its citizens
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from defecting to the West.
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It became one of the most fortified regions in the world.
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There were guard towers manned by armed soldiers.
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There was even a minefield.
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The Berlin War Memorial, on Bernauer Strasse,
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contains the last piece of Berlin Wall
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with the border fortifications behind.
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Check this out. You can sort of see,
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I mean, they have actually preserved
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a small segment of what used to be the wall,
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going all the way in both directions.
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But, boy, you can really see how oppressive that is,
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you know, how forbidding that strip was.
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The Berlin Wall is one
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of the most iconic symbols of the Cold War,
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but there are surprising things about it you may not know.
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For some perspective,
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I've come to the wall's most infamous crossing point --
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Checkpoint C,
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more commonly referred to as Checkpoint Charlie.
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A few hundred feet from the checkpoint
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there is a tethered hot air balloon.
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So, there's an important fact about geography here.
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Many people assume that the Berlin Wall
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was the division between East and West Germany.
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It's not.
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East Germany, the border of East Germany,
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is actually 100 miles to the west.
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West Berlin is a tiny enclave of U.S.-controlled land
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deep behind Soviet lines, and the Berlin Wall
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is actually a loop, encircling it.
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This is what made this city so important during the Cold War.
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The Allied territory is inside Soviet-held territory
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and the Soviets hated this
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and they were trying every which way to get us outta here.
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After the Berlin Wall went up, the East German government
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imposed severe travel restrictions.
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So, to avoid global conflict, Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev
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insisted the East Germans make an exception.
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American, British, and French civilians living in West Berlin
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wouldn't need to show their passports to travel to the East.
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But rather than defuse the situation,
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the gesture triggered one
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of the most dangerous moments of the Cold War.
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Most people have heard of the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis,
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but, the previous year, an equally perilous moment
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occurred right here at Checkpoint Charlie.
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What's surprising to learn
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is that it was triggered by the least likely person.
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On October 22, 1961,
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an American named Allan Lightner
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crossed Checkpoint Charlie on his way to the opera.
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East German guards demanded to see his passport,
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but Lightner, citing the Soviet exception, refused.
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The guards wouldn't back down,
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so, General Lucius Clay,
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the senior U.S. officer in all of occupied Germany,
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ordered ten M48 tanks to take up position at Checkpoint Charlie.
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Not to be outdone,
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the Soviets sent the same number to face down the Americans.
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The incident at Checkpoint Charlie
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was the only point during the Cold War
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when Soviet and American forces faced off
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and it pushed both sides to the brink.
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One nervous soldier, one overzealous commander,
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and the Cold War would go nuclear in a heartbeat.
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On one side stood a young, untested U.S. president,
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still reeling from the Bay of Pigs disaster.
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On the other, a Soviet premier
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under pressure from East Germany.
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The Cold War is heating up,
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so how close did we really come to nuclear Armageddon?
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The Cold War spanned five decades.
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Today, 30 years on, there are still moments
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we're only beginning to comprehend.
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Like the standoff that occurred on October 27, 1961,
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in the heart of Berlin.
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For 16 hours,
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U.S. and Soviet Union tanks stood opposite one another
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in one of the only armed confrontations of the Cold War.
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So, all this Cold War conflict,
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all the tension comes down to this,
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the tanks facing off in the streets of Berlin.
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Aahh!
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-Gas, gas, gas! -Ay yah yah!
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Some experts believe the incident in Berlin
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was more dangerous than the Cuban Missile Crisis.
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It seems incredible to think of these tanks all facing off
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in the streets of Berlin over the Berlin Wall.
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It's a nightmare, you know, claustrophobic.
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All these guys, they realize they are the trigger point
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of global thermonuclear warfare.
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The potential for World War III
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was only averted when President John F. Kennedy
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contacted Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev
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and convinced him to withdraw his tanks.
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The standoff was over.
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But the Berlin Wall remained.
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Its sudden presence shook Berlin.
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The wall ran right through the middle of neighborhoods,
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splitting up families and separating loved ones.
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Those in the West enjoyed continued freedom,
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but life for the people trapped in the East
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was full of hardship.
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Hello, Stephan.
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How you doin'?
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Greetings. Nice to meet you.
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Nice to meet you.
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Stephan Krawczyk is a notable folk musician
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who grew up in East Germany.
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He's brought me to the DDR Museum,
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which features a perfectly recreated East Berlin apartment.
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It's the best place in the world
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of an East German flat.
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There you go.
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I mean, it's very typical.
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It's not bad.
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So, everyone had sort of the same thing, right?
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Really. Really.
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As a professional musician in East Germany,
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Stephan needed to apply for a permit from the government
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in order to write and play.
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So, the music that you made had a message
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and it had to align with the ideology of East Germany, yes?
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INTERPRETER: Well, it was a development in the beginning.
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I started my career by winning a national song competition
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and, back then, I was in line with everything that was wanted.
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WILDMAN: Stephan was celebrated as a national artist,
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which was one of the highest recognitions.
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But, in 1984, he moved to East Berlin
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and his life began to change.
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So, did you notice any discrepancies in the East,
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I mean, the iniquities of things?
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INTERPRETER: Definitely. The party leaders
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could buy all kinds of products from the West.
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They had Western cars and most of them lived
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in the city district called Wandlitz
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and we called that the Western village.
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And, when they were driven home to Wandlitz from work,
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everybody had to stop their cars
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and there were huge traffic jams
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because they needed the roads for themselves.
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WILDMAN: Stephan began to write songs about the inequalities he saw.
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It brought him to the attention of the East German authorities,
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who banned him from playing music altogether.
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But the government didn't stop there.
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What if everything you thought you knew
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about the people closest to you wasn't true?
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What if your friends and family were actually spying on you?
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Since the end of the Cold War,
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declassified documents have shed light
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on the inequality of life under a Communist regime.
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Many citizens in the East lived in poverty.
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Meanwhile, the governing elite had vast stately homes, wealth,
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even indoor swimming pools;
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and authorities were willing to go to great lengths
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to keep the status quo.
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The DDR Museum has recreated a surveillance room,
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the likes of which East German government officials
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could use to secretly listen in and record suspected dissidents.
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So, this would be a surveillance post
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that would be in a typical flat building?
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I mean, they would set up a post in the building?
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INTERPRETER: Yes. Well, in my case, the secret police had rented
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the whole flat right in front of my wife's flat.
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So, they needed to listen in on you
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because you were suspected of doing what?
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INTERPRETER: I think they wanted to find out
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when I was calling somebody from the West
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or meeting somebody from the West,
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because, then, they could use that
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to make me look like an enemy of the state, like a spy.
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WILDMAN: Stephan was eventually arrested and imprisoned.
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The government agency responsible
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was the State Security Service,
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more commonly known as the Stasi.
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Today, their old headquarters have been turned into a museum.
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Described as one of the most repressive
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intelligence organizations to ever have existed,
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at its peak, the Stasi had 91,000 full-time employees
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and, from a population of around 16 million people,
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the Stasi held files on almost half of them.
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After the fall of the Berlin Wall,
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the German Parliament passed a Stasi Records Law,
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which gave Germans the right to view their Stasi files.
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So, what is in this file that hold, generally,
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is the surveillance over the years.
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No. No. This is only a little part.
521
00:26:55,133 --> 00:26:59,201
So just a sampling of a much bigger file on you?
522
00:26:59,203 --> 00:27:01,403
-Yes, a sample. - Wow.
523
00:27:01,405 --> 00:27:02,938
All right. I see a lot of black.
524
00:27:02,940 --> 00:27:04,540
What is this? - Names.
525
00:27:04,542 --> 00:27:07,944
Names from the people who observed me.
526
00:27:07,946 --> 00:27:09,612
All right, so, how many -- I mean,
527
00:27:09,614 --> 00:27:11,614
what did you find out from these files?
528
00:27:11,616 --> 00:27:15,284
I mean, how extensive was the network that was watching you?
529
00:27:15,286 --> 00:27:16,085
80.
530
00:27:16,087 --> 00:27:17,686
-80 people? -80.
531
00:27:17,688 --> 00:27:19,355
80 people were listed in here,
532
00:27:19,357 --> 00:27:21,090
who were spying on you?
533
00:27:21,092 --> 00:27:22,358
-Yes. -Oh, my gosh.
534
00:27:22,360 --> 00:27:24,227
That's amazing.
535
00:27:24,229 --> 00:27:28,097
And who were these people? They were colleagues and --
536
00:27:28,099 --> 00:27:31,500
Colleagues and
537
00:27:31,502 --> 00:27:34,237
INTERPRETER: ...acquaintances and people I didn't know.
538
00:27:34,239 --> 00:27:36,039
And some people, like, for example,
539
00:27:36,041 --> 00:27:40,176
the owner of the bar I used to go to, and his wife.
540
00:27:40,178 --> 00:27:43,312
So, professional acquaintances, colleagues,
541
00:27:43,314 --> 00:27:45,982
the owners of venues that you played in,
542
00:27:45,984 --> 00:27:47,784
all of these, they had been organized
543
00:27:47,786 --> 00:27:49,652
-Yes. -into a network of people
544
00:27:49,654 --> 00:27:50,787
to watch you.
545
00:27:50,789 --> 00:27:52,388
This is overwhelming.
546
00:27:52,390 --> 00:27:55,991
How did this make you feel, to see this?
547
00:27:55,993 --> 00:27:58,794
INTERPRETER: It wasn't surprising, because I knew that observation
548
00:27:58,796 --> 00:28:01,064
had been going on for a long time.
549
00:28:01,066 --> 00:28:03,399
The only thing that really surprised me was
550
00:28:03,401 --> 00:28:05,134
the bad style it was written in.
551
00:28:05,136 --> 00:28:07,737
Okay. You were insulted.
552
00:28:07,739 --> 00:28:08,871
I'm a writer, you know.
553
00:28:08,873 --> 00:28:10,540
You were insulted by the writing.
554
00:28:10,542 --> 00:28:12,141
I understand.
555
00:28:12,143 --> 00:28:14,544
I don't know how you stay -- You're humorous about this.
556
00:28:14,546 --> 00:28:16,345
It's amazing to me.
557
00:28:16,347 --> 00:28:17,413
Wow. Yeah.
558
00:28:17,415 --> 00:28:19,282
In February 1988,
559
00:28:19,284 --> 00:28:21,751
Stephan was deported from East Germany.
560
00:28:24,155 --> 00:28:26,088
Despite the risk
561
00:28:26,090 --> 00:28:29,558
of being imprisoned, or even shot, by the Stasi,
562
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,895
many East Germans were still willing to try and escape,
563
00:28:32,897 --> 00:28:34,429
and the danger was real.
564
00:28:34,431 --> 00:28:37,232
At least 140 people were killed,
565
00:28:37,234 --> 00:28:40,903
trying to get over, under, or around the wall.
566
00:28:40,905 --> 00:28:44,306
However, some were able to beat the odds.
567
00:28:44,308 --> 00:28:46,509
You'll be surprised to learn the extreme lengths
568
00:28:46,511 --> 00:28:47,977
they went to to do it.
569
00:28:51,449 --> 00:28:53,449
In October 1964,
570
00:28:53,451 --> 00:28:55,651
Joachim Neumann and his college friends
571
00:28:55,653 --> 00:28:57,920
dug a 500-foot-long passageway,
572
00:28:57,922 --> 00:29:00,056
named Tunnel 57,
573
00:29:00,058 --> 00:29:03,792
for the 57 people who escaped through it.
574
00:29:03,794 --> 00:29:05,461
In May 1963,
575
00:29:05,463 --> 00:29:08,664
mechanic Heinz Meixner employed his engineering skills
576
00:29:08,666 --> 00:29:12,201
to modify his car and, with his girlfriend in the back,
577
00:29:12,203 --> 00:29:16,672
he limboed between the security barriers at Checkpoint Charlie.
578
00:29:16,674 --> 00:29:20,276
Other people used ziplines to escape over the wall.
579
00:29:20,278 --> 00:29:22,744
Some even built homemade hot air balloons.
580
00:29:26,083 --> 00:29:28,617
And then, there's Hartmut Richter.
581
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Since he was a teenager,
582
00:29:29,954 --> 00:29:33,489
Hartmut had been disillusioned with his life in the East.
583
00:29:33,491 --> 00:29:36,158
But he couldn't imagine how far he'd be forced to go,
584
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,294
in order to escape to the West.
585
00:29:39,296 --> 00:29:41,430
In the summer of 1966,
586
00:29:41,432 --> 00:29:43,699
Richter came here, to the Teltow Canal,
587
00:29:43,701 --> 00:29:46,768
on the outskirts of Berlin, which, during the Cold War,
588
00:29:46,770 --> 00:29:48,771
formed the border between East and West
589
00:29:48,773 --> 00:29:49,972
in this part of the city.
590
00:29:52,777 --> 00:29:54,710
So, was it like this back in the day?
591
00:29:54,712 --> 00:29:56,979
Was it very woodsy and everything?
592
00:29:58,649 --> 00:29:59,682
A death zone. Okay.
593
00:30:03,588 --> 00:30:05,922
Mm-hmm. So, nothing like the nice,
594
00:30:05,924 --> 00:30:07,523
natural scenery we're seeing today.
595
00:30:15,599 --> 00:30:18,801
Hartmut picked a bridge from which he could access the canal.
596
00:30:18,803 --> 00:30:21,937
From there, he planned to swim to an unprotected part
597
00:30:21,939 --> 00:30:25,207
of the border wall, then climb across.
598
00:30:25,209 --> 00:30:26,409
So, this is the bridge, huh?
599
00:30:26,411 --> 00:30:27,877
This is the bridge, yeah.
600
00:30:27,879 --> 00:30:29,144
Why risk your life?
601
00:30:29,146 --> 00:30:31,347
I mean, why was life so bad
602
00:30:31,349 --> 00:30:33,950
that you were willing to risk being shot to get away?
603
00:30:36,153 --> 00:30:40,489
INTERPRETER: Well, it was a continuous story of familiarization, basically.
604
00:30:40,491 --> 00:30:44,360
For example, when I was 16, I already hated the regime
605
00:30:44,362 --> 00:30:47,095
and I was a fan of the Beatles and the Stones
606
00:30:47,097 --> 00:30:49,631
and I had long hair, and they wanted
607
00:30:49,633 --> 00:30:52,635
all the young people in the region to look neat,
608
00:30:52,637 --> 00:30:56,238
so they caught me and cut my hair short.
609
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,774
So, I felt very humiliated by this
610
00:30:58,776 --> 00:31:02,178
and, um, you couldn't say it to, to anybody,
611
00:31:02,180 --> 00:31:04,846
that you had a different opinion on anything.
612
00:31:04,848 --> 00:31:06,983
Okay, so tell me exactly what happened.
613
00:31:06,985 --> 00:31:09,252
Give me the method of your escape.
614
00:31:11,989 --> 00:31:15,657
INTERPRETER: Next to the bridge, where you had lots of barbed wire there,
615
00:31:15,659 --> 00:31:17,960
and I had to dive from reeds to reeds
616
00:31:17,962 --> 00:31:21,330
because I could hear dogs and voices of the guards,
617
00:31:21,332 --> 00:31:22,864
and I knew that, along the banks,
618
00:31:22,866 --> 00:31:24,667
they had alarm systems in place,
619
00:31:24,669 --> 00:31:27,203
so, I couldn't climb up the banks.
620
00:31:32,009 --> 00:31:35,010
WILDMAN: For four hours, Hartmut waded through the canal,
621
00:31:35,012 --> 00:31:38,280
fearful that, at any moment, he would be spotted and shot.
622
00:31:42,086 --> 00:31:44,754
INTERPRETER: I heard a dog and the dog was barking
623
00:31:44,756 --> 00:31:46,489
and I was hiding in my reeds
624
00:31:46,491 --> 00:31:48,557
and my jaws were clattering so much
625
00:31:48,559 --> 00:31:50,826
that I had to put my hand into my mouth
626
00:31:50,828 --> 00:31:52,762
to stop them from making such a noise,
627
00:31:52,764 --> 00:31:54,163
because I thought
628
00:31:54,165 --> 00:31:57,499
that the guards would hear my jaws clattering.
629
00:31:57,501 --> 00:31:59,702
WILDMAN: Hartmut Richter was trying to flee repression
630
00:31:59,704 --> 00:32:01,837
in the Communist East.
631
00:32:01,839 --> 00:32:06,108
But what price would he end up paying in his bid for freedom?
632
00:32:06,110 --> 00:32:07,976
You're a testament to the human spirit,
633
00:32:07,978 --> 00:32:09,779
you know, fighting for freedom.
634
00:32:23,794 --> 00:32:26,061
During the Cold War, some people in the East
635
00:32:26,063 --> 00:32:29,065
went to extraordinary lengths to escape.
636
00:32:29,067 --> 00:32:32,201
Worn down by years of an authoritarian regime,
637
00:32:32,203 --> 00:32:34,537
Hartmut Richter fled to the West.
638
00:32:34,539 --> 00:32:36,605
But standing between him and freedom
639
00:32:36,607 --> 00:32:39,742
was an iron fence that marked the border.
640
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,281
INTERPRETER: The dogs calmed down and they went away
641
00:32:45,283 --> 00:32:49,018
and then, um, I approached the side of the iron fence
642
00:32:49,020 --> 00:32:51,887
and there was a bit of a shadow there from the reeds
643
00:32:51,889 --> 00:32:54,690
and, in that place, I climbed over the iron fence,
644
00:32:54,692 --> 00:32:56,826
that was about three meters high.
645
00:32:56,828 --> 00:32:59,762
So, a combination of pure determination
646
00:32:59,764 --> 00:33:02,765
and a lot of luck gets you through.
647
00:33:04,902 --> 00:33:07,636
Remarkably, that isn't the end of Hartmut's story.
648
00:33:10,708 --> 00:33:14,043
In 1971, a new law was introduced,
649
00:33:14,045 --> 00:33:16,979
that would allow Hartmut to become a West German citizen
650
00:33:16,981 --> 00:33:21,450
and travel back to the East without any consequences.
651
00:33:21,452 --> 00:33:23,919
So, because of that law change, you were able to get back in
652
00:33:23,921 --> 00:33:26,722
and eventually help other people out,
653
00:33:26,724 --> 00:33:28,090
some 30 people, I understand.
654
00:33:31,328 --> 00:33:34,663
INTERPRETER: Yes, I helped 33 people flee the GDR
655
00:33:34,665 --> 00:33:38,401
and I did that by using the transit route with my car.
656
00:33:38,403 --> 00:33:40,803
I was helping these people because I saw myself
657
00:33:40,805 --> 00:33:43,939
in their situation, um, me as a refugee.
658
00:33:43,941 --> 00:33:47,142
I would so much have liked to be driven out in a trunk.
659
00:33:47,144 --> 00:33:48,811
That's why I was doing it.
660
00:33:51,548 --> 00:33:53,215
WILDMAN: In March 1975,
661
00:33:53,217 --> 00:33:54,950
Hartmut was caught trying to smuggle
662
00:33:54,952 --> 00:33:57,086
his sister and her boyfriend out.
663
00:33:57,088 --> 00:33:58,421
All three were arrested.
664
00:33:58,423 --> 00:34:00,823
And, in 1976,
665
00:34:00,825 --> 00:34:03,959
Hartmut was sentenced to 15 years in prison.
666
00:34:05,763 --> 00:34:09,098
While locked up, he went on a hunger strike three times
667
00:34:09,100 --> 00:34:11,767
and spent four years in solitary confinement,
668
00:34:11,769 --> 00:34:15,237
before eventually being released in October 1980.
669
00:34:18,176 --> 00:34:20,776
I know that a lot of Americans, myself included,
670
00:34:20,778 --> 00:34:24,246
don't appreciate how free we've been all of our lives.
671
00:34:24,248 --> 00:34:27,049
It's someone like you who shows us that.
672
00:34:27,051 --> 00:34:30,119
I mean, you're a testament to how the human spirit,
673
00:34:30,121 --> 00:34:31,987
you know, fighting for freedom.
674
00:34:31,989 --> 00:34:33,389
It's amazing.
675
00:34:33,391 --> 00:34:34,924
Thanks so much. -Same.
676
00:34:38,529 --> 00:34:39,862
WILDMAN: By the late '80s,
677
00:34:39,864 --> 00:34:41,596
relations between the United States
678
00:34:41,598 --> 00:34:43,799
and the Soviet Union were shifting.
679
00:34:43,801 --> 00:34:45,000
In the Kremlin,
680
00:34:45,002 --> 00:34:47,336
Mikhail Gorbachev was more open-minded
681
00:34:47,338 --> 00:34:49,138
than his predecessors,
682
00:34:49,140 --> 00:34:52,875
and U.S. President Ronald Reagan glimpsed a chance at peace.
683
00:34:52,877 --> 00:34:54,276
Mr. Gorbachev,
684
00:34:54,278 --> 00:34:56,612
tear down this wall.
685
00:34:59,683 --> 00:35:03,886
In response, a wave of uprisings spread across Eastern Europe,
686
00:35:03,888 --> 00:35:07,489
with people demanding freedom to travel to the West.
687
00:35:07,491 --> 00:35:10,025
In an effort to pacify its citizens,
688
00:35:10,027 --> 00:35:12,628
the East German government called a press conference
689
00:35:12,630 --> 00:35:14,696
to announce lifting travel restrictions
690
00:35:14,698 --> 00:35:16,431
in the coming months.
691
00:35:16,433 --> 00:35:18,834
Politburo member Guenter Schabowski was asked
692
00:35:18,836 --> 00:35:21,236
when the changes might take effect.
693
00:35:21,238 --> 00:35:22,571
His response triggered
694
00:35:22,573 --> 00:35:26,909
the most consequential moment of the entire Cold War.
695
00:35:26,911 --> 00:35:31,447
He said, "Immediately, without delay."
696
00:35:31,449 --> 00:35:33,115
What most people don't realize is that
697
00:35:33,117 --> 00:35:36,852
the fall of the Berlin Wall happened sort of by accident.
698
00:35:36,854 --> 00:35:40,789
The confusing press conference prompted thousands of Berliners
699
00:35:40,791 --> 00:35:42,658
to come to the wall and see for themselves.
700
00:35:42,660 --> 00:35:44,593
One of the focal points is right here,
701
00:35:44,595 --> 00:35:47,463
the Bornholmer Strasse Checkpoint.
702
00:35:47,465 --> 00:35:51,666
Thousands of people gathered, demanding to cross to the West.
703
00:35:51,668 --> 00:35:54,002
Receiving no instructions from their superiors,
704
00:35:54,004 --> 00:35:57,072
the overwhelmed border guards opened the crossing point here
705
00:35:57,074 --> 00:36:00,275
on their own, and other gates soon followed.
706
00:36:03,548 --> 00:36:06,214
Shortly after, people began congregating
707
00:36:06,216 --> 00:36:08,150
on top of the Berlin Wall,
708
00:36:08,152 --> 00:36:10,619
and scenes unthinkable days earlier
709
00:36:10,621 --> 00:36:12,421
played out across the city.
710
00:36:18,295 --> 00:36:20,429
NEWSREADER: Berliners from both East and West
711
00:36:20,431 --> 00:36:24,233
linked hands and danced round their liberated territory.
712
00:36:24,235 --> 00:36:27,102
WILDMAN: And it didn't stop there.
713
00:36:27,104 --> 00:36:28,771
Anti-Communist uprisings
714
00:36:28,773 --> 00:36:31,240
were springing up all over East Germany.
715
00:36:31,242 --> 00:36:34,376
What few people realize is how they jump-started the career
716
00:36:34,378 --> 00:36:36,112
of one of the world's most powerful men.
717
00:36:39,250 --> 00:36:41,383
In the East German city of Dresden,
718
00:36:41,385 --> 00:36:42,918
a crowd of angry protestors
719
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,855
threatened to storm the local offices of the KGB.
720
00:36:46,857 --> 00:36:49,724
The building was saved by one quick-thinking officer,
721
00:36:49,726 --> 00:36:51,059
who tricked the mob into believing
722
00:36:51,061 --> 00:36:54,330
a troop of armed soldiers was inside.
723
00:36:54,332 --> 00:36:56,198
The defiant officer was none other
724
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,802
than current Russian President Vladimir Putin.
725
00:36:59,804 --> 00:37:01,069
After the incident,
726
00:37:01,071 --> 00:37:05,740
Putin began a meteoric rise up the ranks of the KGB.
727
00:37:05,742 --> 00:37:08,944
Above all, it left Putin with huge anxiety
728
00:37:08,946 --> 00:37:12,214
about how easily political elites could be overthrown,
729
00:37:12,216 --> 00:37:14,817
something that motivates him to this day.
730
00:37:14,819 --> 00:37:17,485
A few months later, in October 1990,
731
00:37:17,487 --> 00:37:20,555
East Germany was reunified with the West;
732
00:37:20,557 --> 00:37:24,559
and, the year after that, the Soviet Union was dissolved.
733
00:37:24,561 --> 00:37:26,228
The Cold War was over.
734
00:37:26,230 --> 00:37:28,964
Or was it?
735
00:37:28,966 --> 00:37:31,300
Now, almost a quarter of a century on,
736
00:37:31,302 --> 00:37:34,503
relations with Russia have deteriorated again.
737
00:37:34,505 --> 00:37:36,438
It's left some people wondering --
738
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,174
Are we facing a new Cold War?
739
00:37:53,858 --> 00:37:55,925
Today, the news is dominated by stories
740
00:37:55,927 --> 00:37:59,561
about Russia, nuclear war, and espionage.
741
00:37:59,563 --> 00:38:04,333
It's led some to speculate that we're entering a new Cold War.
742
00:38:04,335 --> 00:38:05,800
But, 30 years on,
743
00:38:05,802 --> 00:38:08,270
what would the reality of a nuclear war be like?
744
00:38:12,676 --> 00:38:15,611
To find out, I've come to the heart of Berlin,
745
00:38:15,613 --> 00:38:18,413
with historian Nick Jackson.
746
00:38:18,415 --> 00:38:20,616
So, we're right in the middle of town here.
747
00:38:20,618 --> 00:38:22,418
That's right, the city center.
748
00:38:22,420 --> 00:38:24,019
Okay.
749
00:38:24,021 --> 00:38:26,288
Nick is showing me a Cold War relic
750
00:38:26,290 --> 00:38:28,290
that might have a new purpose today.
751
00:38:28,292 --> 00:38:30,358
And we're going down into a subway station.
752
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:31,893
Well, it's not just a subway station,
753
00:38:31,895 --> 00:38:34,496
but, this is actually a multipurpose
754
00:38:34,498 --> 00:38:36,765
atomic, biological, and chemical bunker.
755
00:38:40,971 --> 00:38:43,238
Pankstrasse is one of the busiest stations
756
00:38:43,240 --> 00:38:46,041
in the city's U-Bahn subway system.
757
00:38:46,043 --> 00:38:49,311
But if we're facing nuclear war, this spot could be vital.
758
00:38:52,816 --> 00:38:54,917
That's crazy.
759
00:38:54,919 --> 00:38:56,651
Man, it's pristine, isn't it?
760
00:38:56,653 --> 00:38:58,787
So, this is, what? This is a bunker.
761
00:38:58,789 --> 00:39:01,523
This is one of the five entrances to this atomic-,
762
00:39:01,525 --> 00:39:03,725
biological-, chemical- weapons-proof bunker.
763
00:39:03,727 --> 00:39:05,927
Okay, so how many people would fit in here?
764
00:39:05,929 --> 00:39:08,597
The bunker is designed for 3,339.
765
00:39:08,599 --> 00:39:10,799
So, in the case of this nuclear attack,
766
00:39:10,801 --> 00:39:13,202
it's gonna be mayhem.
767
00:39:13,204 --> 00:39:15,003
It's gonna be a completely traumatized,
768
00:39:15,005 --> 00:39:16,738
panicking crowd and you're gonna need
769
00:39:16,740 --> 00:39:19,808
some way to control the number of people.
770
00:39:19,810 --> 00:39:21,009
And that's this door.
771
00:39:21,011 --> 00:39:24,346
So, this is what's called a people press.
772
00:39:24,348 --> 00:39:26,214
You can open it fully and allow the crowd
773
00:39:26,216 --> 00:39:28,350
just to storm in freely and then, gradually,
774
00:39:28,352 --> 00:39:30,352
you close that to limit the number of people
775
00:39:30,354 --> 00:39:31,686
that are coming through.
776
00:39:31,688 --> 00:39:32,821
So, there's a crowd of people.
777
00:39:32,823 --> 00:39:35,223
I'm the last guy in and I'm pushin' in
778
00:39:35,225 --> 00:39:37,359
and this thing is closing on me. -That's right.
779
00:39:37,361 --> 00:39:39,361
So, people would be squeezing through,
780
00:39:39,363 --> 00:39:41,230
but, as you can see, this bit gives.
781
00:39:41,232 --> 00:39:43,231
-Oh, I see. -So, at the final moment,
782
00:39:43,233 --> 00:39:44,566
it'll close on you.
783
00:39:44,568 --> 00:39:45,900
You could then push against it.
784
00:39:45,902 --> 00:39:47,836
-Gotcha. -And you get popped in or out.
785
00:39:47,838 --> 00:39:49,237
Then the door's shut and that's it.
786
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,639
All right, so this is dealing with the reality that people
787
00:39:51,641 --> 00:39:52,908
are gonna be squeezing in there for their
788
00:39:52,910 --> 00:39:55,043
-That's right. -dear life.
789
00:39:55,045 --> 00:39:56,177
All right. And then they go
790
00:39:56,179 --> 00:39:57,513
through this door? -Exactly.
791
00:40:02,987 --> 00:40:05,187
WILDMAN: The nuclear bunker at Pankstrasse Station
792
00:40:05,189 --> 00:40:07,055
is still being funded today,
793
00:40:07,057 --> 00:40:11,126
so, if there were an emergency, it could be put into action.
794
00:40:11,128 --> 00:40:14,663
I'm thinking how different it was to be in Germany
795
00:40:14,665 --> 00:40:16,398
in the Cold War, versus the United States.
796
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,199
I mean, were people really hyped up
797
00:40:18,201 --> 00:40:21,870
and were they in drills, and so forth?
798
00:40:21,872 --> 00:40:24,006
There were drills and, of course,
799
00:40:24,008 --> 00:40:25,674
people were worried, 'cause you could start
800
00:40:25,676 --> 00:40:28,543
to see, at certain periods of the Cold War,
801
00:40:28,545 --> 00:40:30,211
that things might lead
802
00:40:30,213 --> 00:40:33,949
to the Cold War getting warmer, or hot.
803
00:40:33,951 --> 00:40:35,550
In fact, there's even a German word for that,
804
00:40:35,552 --> 00:40:39,354
this feeling of sort of a doomsday feeling,
805
00:40:39,356 --> 00:40:41,690
Weltuntergangstimmung, and I think people
806
00:40:41,692 --> 00:40:43,158
in West Berlin must've felt that
807
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:47,229
more than others further to the west of Germany.
808
00:40:47,231 --> 00:40:48,764
Exactly. People in Iowa
809
00:40:48,766 --> 00:40:50,565
are digging their bunkers in their backyards,
810
00:40:50,567 --> 00:40:52,100
but, here, it's a whole different thing.
811
00:40:59,743 --> 00:41:01,910
Welcome to the dorm.
812
00:41:01,912 --> 00:41:03,444
It continues.
813
00:41:03,446 --> 00:41:04,513
Look at that!
814
00:41:04,515 --> 00:41:05,713
Oh, my goodness.
815
00:41:10,321 --> 00:41:12,154
Did they have a system for keeping
816
00:41:12,156 --> 00:41:13,322
families together, and so forth?
817
00:41:13,324 --> 00:41:15,724
I mean, the psychology of this is overwhelming.
818
00:41:15,726 --> 00:41:18,327
I think that's a very good point because,
819
00:41:18,329 --> 00:41:20,596
when you think of the entrance requirements,
820
00:41:20,598 --> 00:41:23,732
the doors would open and, as that people-press shut,
821
00:41:23,734 --> 00:41:25,334
it's possible that families were divided.
822
00:41:25,336 --> 00:41:26,868
-Yeah. -So, you imagine factoring that
823
00:41:26,870 --> 00:41:28,870
into the way people were feeling.
824
00:41:28,872 --> 00:41:30,005
"The future's unknown.
825
00:41:30,007 --> 00:41:31,673
Where's the other half of my family?
826
00:41:31,675 --> 00:41:33,141
Did they manage to get in?
827
00:41:33,143 --> 00:41:35,344
Are they still outside? What's happening outside?"
828
00:41:35,346 --> 00:41:36,678
Right. And nobody really knows
829
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,680
what happens to people under those conditions,
830
00:41:38,682 --> 00:41:40,148
'cause we've never had a nuclear war.
831
00:41:48,893 --> 00:41:50,625
The truth is that nuclear weapons
832
00:41:50,627 --> 00:41:54,029
have only been used in combat two times --
833
00:41:54,031 --> 00:41:56,899
on the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
834
00:41:59,903 --> 00:42:02,237
Since then, we've lived with the threat
835
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:07,309
that they might be used again and, today, that danger is real.
836
00:42:09,646 --> 00:42:10,712
In North Korea,
837
00:42:10,714 --> 00:42:13,048
we face a seemingly unpredictable threat
838
00:42:13,050 --> 00:42:15,517
and, though the old Soviet Union is gone,
839
00:42:15,519 --> 00:42:17,552
Russia, under Vladimir Putin,
840
00:42:17,554 --> 00:42:20,922
is still a repressive and aggressive opponent.
841
00:42:20,924 --> 00:42:23,792
It's like a new Cold War has begun.
842
00:42:23,794 --> 00:42:26,195
Or maybe the fairer question to ask is --
843
00:42:26,197 --> 00:42:28,931
Did the old one ever end?
843
00:42:29,305 --> 00:43:29,464
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