Interior. Leather Bar.

1 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:12,074 2 00:01:13,258 --> 00:01:15,234 I haven't really thought about this until recently, 3 00:01:15,258 --> 00:01:19,176 and I had this teacher at Yale named Michael Warner, 4 00:01:19,217 --> 00:01:23,302 and I just read his book called The Trouble with Normal 5 00:01:23,343 --> 00:01:25,843 that's now about 10 or 11 years old. 6 00:01:25,885 --> 00:01:29,761 But he's talking about... 7 00:01:29,803 --> 00:01:32,429 gay marriage, you know, ten years ago. 8 00:01:32,470 --> 00:01:34,520 And now, it's become an even bigger topic. 9 00:01:36,969 --> 00:01:39,013 And his argument is, you know, 10 00:01:39,055 --> 00:01:43,764 of course, you know... 11 00:01:43,806 --> 00:01:45,865 we like to think that, you know, we should have equal rights 12 00:01:45,889 --> 00:01:47,848 for everyone and this kind of thing, 13 00:01:47,890 --> 00:01:50,307 but one thing that it's doing that maybe 14 00:01:50,348 --> 00:01:53,433 people aren't looking at is normalizing, 15 00:01:53,474 --> 00:01:54,867 you know, a queer lifestyle 16 00:01:54,891 --> 00:01:59,017 that actually is incredibly valuable. 17 00:01:59,059 --> 00:02:01,350 And then it's also going to make... 18 00:02:01,392 --> 00:02:06,726 if it becomes legal nationally, what will happen is 19 00:02:06,768 --> 00:02:08,852 then pressure will be put on anybody 20 00:02:08,894 --> 00:02:13,520 that's, you know, living a gay lifestyle 21 00:02:13,562 --> 00:02:14,996 to get married. 22 00:02:15,020 --> 00:02:16,353 Like, okay, we granted it. 23 00:02:16,395 --> 00:02:19,813 Now everyb... you're going to be... ev... 24 00:02:19,854 --> 00:02:21,205 you know, you're going to be expected to get married 25 00:02:21,229 --> 00:02:22,813 just like straight people, 26 00:02:22,855 --> 00:02:24,623 and if you're not, then there's, you know... 27 00:02:24,647 --> 00:02:28,148 There's a fear that the hunger 28 00:02:28,190 --> 00:02:31,023 and the race for things like gay marriage 29 00:02:31,065 --> 00:02:34,607 and, like, the assimilation into straight culture 30 00:02:34,649 --> 00:02:37,857 is erasing all of the radicalness 31 00:02:37,899 --> 00:02:43,859 and the queerness of, you know, that sort of world. 32 00:02:43,901 --> 00:02:45,693 I like what you're saying, 33 00:02:45,734 --> 00:02:48,860 especially in terms of what we're creating here, 34 00:02:48,902 --> 00:02:52,652 because I think it's... 35 00:02:52,694 --> 00:02:57,278 I think it helps to inform choices. 36 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,321 Hey. 37 00:02:59,362 --> 00:03:00,797 - Good to see you. - Good to see you. 38 00:03:00,821 --> 00:03:02,071 You know everyone. 39 00:03:02,112 --> 00:03:03,362 - Hi, everyone. - Hey. Travis. 40 00:03:03,404 --> 00:03:04,839 - Hi, Travis. - Nice to meet you. 41 00:03:04,863 --> 00:03:06,089 - Nice to meet you. - How's it going? 42 00:03:06,113 --> 00:03:07,530 - Going good. All right. - Good. 43 00:03:07,572 --> 00:03:09,489 - Hey. Hey. - Hi. 44 00:03:09,531 --> 00:03:14,323 It's beyond our grasp for a lot of reasons 45 00:03:14,365 --> 00:03:18,949 with, like, time and money and all of it to actually try 46 00:03:18,990 --> 00:03:21,491 and diligently and earnestly try and re-create this 47 00:03:21,533 --> 00:03:23,741 as if it were, like, real 40 minutes cut from it 48 00:03:23,783 --> 00:03:25,968 and people would think that that's really what it was. 49 00:03:25,992 --> 00:03:27,826 So I think even trying to do that 50 00:03:27,867 --> 00:03:29,468 is just, like, a wrong way to go. 51 00:03:29,492 --> 00:03:33,077 So this is more like our reimagined idea of it. 52 00:03:33,118 --> 00:03:34,577 So it's a little bit... 53 00:03:34,618 --> 00:03:38,828 There's room to be fluid with your interpretation 54 00:03:38,869 --> 00:03:40,162 of that character. 55 00:03:40,204 --> 00:03:42,287 - Good. Good. - Yeah. Yeah. 56 00:03:42,329 --> 00:03:46,871 'Cause, yeah, the idea of playing Al Pacino is... 57 00:03:46,913 --> 00:03:48,633 it's, like, a whole different ballpark 58 00:03:48,663 --> 00:03:51,747 than, you know, playing this role. 59 00:03:51,789 --> 00:03:52,997 - Sure. - Right? 60 00:03:53,039 --> 00:03:54,747 Maybe just do kind of Pacino. 61 00:03:54,789 --> 00:03:55,748 Do you know what I mean? 62 00:03:55,790 --> 00:03:57,290 Not SNLPacino, 63 00:03:57,332 --> 00:04:01,708 but just sort of, like, "esque," Pacino-esque. 64 00:04:01,749 --> 00:04:04,416 - His kind of maybe... - Did you just get a haircut? 65 00:04:04,458 --> 00:04:06,667 - Yeah. For Oz. - Nice. 66 00:04:06,709 --> 00:04:09,792 I'm not suggesting that you need to have sex with anybody, 67 00:04:09,834 --> 00:04:11,793 and I'm not going to ask you to have sex. 68 00:04:11,835 --> 00:04:13,251 I'm not going to push that. 69 00:04:13,293 --> 00:04:16,961 I mean, it's not really part of my agenda. 70 00:04:17,002 --> 00:04:21,462 But I do think that it's interesting and important 71 00:04:21,503 --> 00:04:24,462 on some level to show 72 00:04:24,503 --> 00:04:30,421 you have some struggle with... 73 00:04:30,463 --> 00:04:33,797 your acceptance of this, and... 74 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,214 - You might as well call cut... - Can you... 75 00:04:36,255 --> 00:04:38,357 And put this on the thing, 'cause this is it right now. 76 00:04:38,381 --> 00:04:40,090 Yeah. 77 00:04:40,131 --> 00:04:42,716 I don't personally like this project, personally. 78 00:04:42,757 --> 00:04:47,049 It doesn't... I don't... nothing artistic in it right now. 79 00:04:47,092 --> 00:04:50,050 Maybe it's 'cause of my lack of understanding of what it is. 80 00:04:50,092 --> 00:04:51,842 Doesn't respond to it. 81 00:04:51,883 --> 00:04:56,843 What I do respond to and always have is his mission. 82 00:04:56,884 --> 00:04:58,969 Like, I like James' mission. 83 00:04:59,010 --> 00:05:01,927 I don't always understand it, but I like... I like it. 84 00:05:01,969 --> 00:05:05,095 I like what he's doing even when I don't understand it, 85 00:05:05,136 --> 00:05:07,971 and I'm into supporting it and being a part of it. 86 00:05:08,012 --> 00:05:09,721 So I guess what my question is, 87 00:05:09,762 --> 00:05:13,680 is this something that we, as the artists working on it, 88 00:05:13,722 --> 00:05:17,055 are going to manipulate to make a certain point, 89 00:05:17,097 --> 00:05:19,473 or do you just want it to be what is? 90 00:05:23,557 --> 00:05:26,099 I want you to basically cruise the camera. 91 00:05:26,140 --> 00:05:27,515 Okay. 92 00:05:27,557 --> 00:05:33,100 Just do that until I tell you to stop. 93 00:05:33,141 --> 00:05:34,535 I don't know exactly what you mean by that. 94 00:05:34,559 --> 00:05:36,226 Like, without saying anything, 95 00:05:36,267 --> 00:05:38,601 I want you to act like this is a guy 96 00:05:38,643 --> 00:05:40,328 - that you're, like, cruising. - Okay, okay. 97 00:05:40,352 --> 00:05:42,036 You can pretend that he's 2 feet from your face, 98 00:05:42,060 --> 00:05:43,536 or you can pretend that he's a little bit further 99 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:44,954 - down the road. - Okay. 100 00:05:44,978 --> 00:05:46,204 Not down the road, but across the bar. 101 00:05:46,228 --> 00:05:49,895 All right. 102 00:05:53,937 --> 00:05:55,164 But I want you to look into the camera. 103 00:05:55,188 --> 00:05:56,438 - Look into the camera. - Yeah. 104 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:57,872 - Okay. - So pretend it's... 105 00:05:57,896 --> 00:05:59,481 - he's either right here... - Gotcha. 106 00:05:59,522 --> 00:06:00,748 Or he's further away, but look into the camera. 107 00:06:00,772 --> 00:06:02,981 Okay. 108 00:06:14,399 --> 00:06:18,150 I've always been a huge fan of Cruising, 109 00:06:18,192 --> 00:06:20,401 ever since I discovered it a few years ago. 110 00:06:20,443 --> 00:06:23,818 And I try to live the gay dream, 111 00:06:23,860 --> 00:06:26,152 and I think that the people in that time period 112 00:06:26,194 --> 00:06:28,986 were just living this gay dream that was so spectacular, 113 00:06:29,027 --> 00:06:32,112 that I try to live it in my life as much as possible now, 114 00:06:32,153 --> 00:06:33,945 and when roles like this come along, 115 00:06:33,987 --> 00:06:37,238 I feel like it's just the perfect thing. 116 00:06:39,113 --> 00:06:42,572 - I've only gone just back... - just gone back to acting, 117 00:06:42,614 --> 00:06:44,715 and I thought this would be a cool kind of first credit 118 00:06:44,739 --> 00:06:48,615 to get, and also, it just seems kind of hot. 119 00:06:48,656 --> 00:06:50,007 I hope I get to make out with Franco. 120 00:06:50,031 --> 00:06:51,074 That's... 121 00:06:52,741 --> 00:06:57,992 The reason why I want to be in this project 122 00:06:58,033 --> 00:07:02,076 is to explore something 123 00:07:02,118 --> 00:07:05,993 that I'm afraid of. 124 00:07:06,034 --> 00:07:08,827 That's the reason why. 125 00:07:08,869 --> 00:07:12,411 Should be pretty hot. 126 00:07:12,453 --> 00:07:15,536 Yeah, I've never really been on camera before like this, 127 00:07:15,578 --> 00:07:19,079 so I'm a little nervous, 128 00:07:19,121 --> 00:07:24,038 and I imagine I'll be kind of anxious. 129 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,788 But I'm sure everyone's, 130 00:07:26,831 --> 00:07:28,664 like, really comfortable and nice, 131 00:07:28,706 --> 00:07:31,873 so I'm looking forward to it. 132 00:07:31,914 --> 00:07:34,290 Well, I'm interested in this because I'm excited 133 00:07:34,332 --> 00:07:36,016 to work on something out of the box. 134 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,101 I feel like in this town, everything is so proper 135 00:07:38,125 --> 00:07:41,791 and the same, and it's cheesy, and it's usually very boring. 136 00:07:41,833 --> 00:07:45,542 So I like things to shock people and to move them 137 00:07:45,584 --> 00:07:48,877 and, you know, something that's original at least. 138 00:07:48,918 --> 00:07:50,878 And work with you guys... you and James Franco... 139 00:07:50,918 --> 00:07:53,628 that's really exciting to me, of course. 140 00:07:53,669 --> 00:07:56,086 I think that 141 00:07:56,128 --> 00:07:59,004 the atmosphere on the day of the shoot 142 00:07:59,045 --> 00:08:01,337 is going to be sexually charged. 143 00:08:01,379 --> 00:08:03,338 I think there's going to be a lot of tension. 144 00:08:03,380 --> 00:08:05,921 I know that there's a bunch of straight guys in the cast, 145 00:08:05,963 --> 00:08:08,297 and I don't know how they're going to react 146 00:08:08,339 --> 00:08:13,131 to the vibrating homosexuality 147 00:08:13,172 --> 00:08:14,608 that's going to be all around them. 148 00:08:14,632 --> 00:08:17,465 But I think it's going to be awesome. 149 00:08:17,507 --> 00:08:24,134 ♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh 150 00:08:24,175 --> 00:08:32,093 ♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh 151 00:08:32,135 --> 00:08:34,302 Hi, baby. 152 00:08:34,344 --> 00:08:36,344 I'm still in bed, 153 00:08:36,386 --> 00:08:40,595 but I hope you're shaking it over there. 154 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:46,263 Hey, remember, don't take it, give it. 155 00:08:49,179 --> 00:08:53,139 Anyways, I want to make sure you're home by 8:00 tonight 156 00:08:53,180 --> 00:08:55,098 'cause I have dinner reservations. 157 00:08:55,140 --> 00:08:58,806 All right, love you. 158 00:09:05,892 --> 00:09:08,350 Yo, what's going on, man? 159 00:09:08,392 --> 00:09:12,268 I know you're at the Franco faggot project today, 160 00:09:12,309 --> 00:09:14,393 and I got to tell you, man, 161 00:09:14,434 --> 00:09:16,894 I don't know where your head is on this, 162 00:09:16,935 --> 00:09:20,395 and I really think we need to talk about this right away. 163 00:09:20,436 --> 00:09:24,020 Please call me as soon as you get this. 164 00:09:24,061 --> 00:09:28,021 - Awesome. Great. - We're good. 165 00:09:28,062 --> 00:09:29,413 - Cool, man. - Thanks for taking some time. 166 00:09:29,437 --> 00:09:31,105 I'm going to hand you over to Iris. 167 00:09:31,147 --> 00:09:33,022 I appreciate it. That was really awesome. 168 00:09:33,063 --> 00:09:35,022 - Thanks, Travis. - Okay, talk to you later. 169 00:09:35,063 --> 00:09:38,731 - Bye. - See you. 170 00:09:42,232 --> 00:09:44,815 - Hi. - Good morning. 171 00:09:44,857 --> 00:09:46,150 - You're Val. - Are you Val? 172 00:09:46,191 --> 00:09:47,733 - Hey, I'm Michael. - I knew it. 173 00:09:47,775 --> 00:09:51,025 - Hi, Michael. Val. - Nice to meet you. 174 00:09:51,066 --> 00:09:52,401 - Hey. - Hello. Welcome. 175 00:09:52,442 --> 00:09:53,817 - How you doing? - How you doing? 176 00:09:53,859 --> 00:09:57,652 - Doing good. - Good. Good, good, good. 177 00:09:57,693 --> 00:09:59,485 - Get comfortable. - Okay. 178 00:09:59,527 --> 00:10:01,670 I'm going to do something with those guys right there, 179 00:10:01,694 --> 00:10:03,653 and then I'll be around in a second, okay? 180 00:10:03,694 --> 00:10:06,444 All right. 181 00:10:19,114 --> 00:10:20,739 - Jay. - Val. 182 00:10:20,781 --> 00:10:23,062 - Yeah. Nice to meet you. - Nice to meet you, Jay. 183 00:10:48,537 --> 00:10:50,453 So I want you guys to meet each other. 184 00:10:50,495 --> 00:10:52,013 So this is Master Avery. This is A.J. 185 00:10:52,037 --> 00:10:53,413 - Hi. A.J. - Hey, A.J. How are you? 186 00:10:53,454 --> 00:10:54,663 - Nice to meet you. - And... 187 00:10:54,704 --> 00:10:56,454 - Good. - I want... 188 00:10:56,496 --> 00:10:58,580 Oh, sorry. 189 00:10:58,622 --> 00:11:00,622 So you guys are going to have a scene together, 190 00:11:00,664 --> 00:11:02,330 like, early on. 191 00:11:02,372 --> 00:11:03,682 You're going to have, like, a sex scene together. 192 00:11:03,706 --> 00:11:05,099 There will be other people involved. 193 00:11:05,123 --> 00:11:07,831 - Mm-hmm. - But I want to film you guys 194 00:11:07,873 --> 00:11:10,058 talking about the negotiating of what this scene will be. 195 00:11:10,082 --> 00:11:11,832 - Okay. - I think you both have read 196 00:11:11,874 --> 00:11:13,601 sort of, like, what we have outlined there right now. 197 00:11:13,625 --> 00:11:15,542 - Yeah. - But what I... 198 00:11:15,583 --> 00:11:18,167 Yeah, so you're going to be sucking somebody off? 199 00:11:18,208 --> 00:11:20,126 - Someone's... - Sucking you off? 200 00:11:20,168 --> 00:11:22,959 - Yeah. Yeah. - Okay, got ya. Okay. 201 00:11:23,001 --> 00:11:25,169 Okay, and then we have this little play 202 00:11:25,210 --> 00:11:26,436 while someone worships my boots. 203 00:11:26,460 --> 00:11:27,960 - Yeah. - All right. 204 00:11:28,002 --> 00:11:29,961 Kind of negotiate where your boundaries are, 205 00:11:30,003 --> 00:11:31,961 what you have in mind, what you're proposing. 206 00:11:32,003 --> 00:11:34,546 But I want you to do something that's visual. 207 00:11:34,587 --> 00:11:37,254 Like, maybe it's, like, some sort of, like, 208 00:11:37,296 --> 00:11:39,481 bound-hand visual thing, as you're describing it to him... 209 00:11:39,505 --> 00:11:41,130 - Uh-huh, Yeah. - Mm-hmm. 210 00:11:41,172 --> 00:11:43,755 Because it's something that I want you to repeat 211 00:11:43,797 --> 00:11:47,173 when we have you with Val in a different scene, 212 00:11:47,214 --> 00:11:48,440 - like the visual piece. - Uh-huh, like, 213 00:11:48,464 --> 00:11:50,549 - of the negotiating? - Yeah. 214 00:11:50,590 --> 00:11:52,965 So there's a scene that's going to be, 215 00:11:53,007 --> 00:11:56,008 technically, in the very end of the film, where you guys... 216 00:11:56,050 --> 00:11:58,216 You and Val are again at the bar, 217 00:11:58,258 --> 00:12:00,592 and the music's loud, and we can't hear what you're saying, 218 00:12:00,634 --> 00:12:01,860 but we're going to see your body language. 219 00:12:01,884 --> 00:12:03,360 - Right. - And I'm hoping 220 00:12:03,384 --> 00:12:05,468 that there can be body language that we see here 221 00:12:05,510 --> 00:12:07,552 with you two that's mirrored with you... 222 00:12:07,593 --> 00:12:09,028 Like, I use it every time I negotiate. 223 00:12:09,052 --> 00:12:12,178 - Yes. Exactly. - Sure, okay. 224 00:12:21,221 --> 00:12:24,805 So one of my coworkers, her cousin, I guess, 225 00:12:24,846 --> 00:12:30,597 is James' assistant, and that's kind of how this happened. 226 00:12:30,639 --> 00:12:34,015 That's cool. 227 00:12:34,057 --> 00:12:36,433 I'm curious if James is going to be here. 228 00:12:36,474 --> 00:12:38,058 I'm not sure. 229 00:12:38,099 --> 00:12:40,474 - He's here. - Oh. 230 00:12:42,767 --> 00:12:46,726 No, I think he's an artist who really is interested in... 231 00:12:46,768 --> 00:12:48,077 - in the nooks and crannies. - The range of human experience. 232 00:12:48,101 --> 00:12:49,310 - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah, totally. 233 00:12:49,351 --> 00:12:50,619 - Nice. - From reading his, like, 234 00:12:50,643 --> 00:12:52,578 HuffPost stuff and... 235 00:12:52,602 --> 00:12:57,228 - I suppose people will be... - the gays will be excited 236 00:12:57,270 --> 00:12:59,079 - for Franco. - Titillated. 237 00:12:59,103 --> 00:13:00,395 - Yeah. - Definitely. 238 00:13:00,437 --> 00:13:02,313 - Hopeful. - Doing a gay porno thing. 239 00:13:02,354 --> 00:13:04,164 They're probably hoping he's going to be naked in it. 240 00:13:04,188 --> 00:13:05,979 - Probably, yeah. - We are, yeah. 241 00:13:06,021 --> 00:13:07,355 - Speak for me too. - Yeah. 242 00:13:07,397 --> 00:13:08,939 I mean, yeah. 243 00:13:08,980 --> 00:13:10,581 Everybody's going to want to see him naked, 244 00:13:10,605 --> 00:13:11,665 but I think that there's going to be 245 00:13:11,689 --> 00:13:14,481 a whole segment of our community 246 00:13:14,523 --> 00:13:17,482 that is going to be angrily waving signs 247 00:13:17,524 --> 00:13:19,482 and writing blog posts about, 248 00:13:19,524 --> 00:13:22,900 "Why is this straight dude touching this?" 249 00:13:22,942 --> 00:13:24,459 Maybe that's part of the point, though, 250 00:13:24,483 --> 00:13:25,983 'cause, like, if you think about 251 00:13:26,025 --> 00:13:27,706 the original production of Cruising, right? 252 00:13:27,734 --> 00:13:31,609 The ones who would protest probably are the ones 253 00:13:31,651 --> 00:13:33,485 who have the most kink inside of them 254 00:13:33,527 --> 00:13:35,360 and are suppressing it or are afraid 255 00:13:35,402 --> 00:13:39,111 of experiencing or exploring something 256 00:13:39,153 --> 00:13:41,403 because of their own fear of being judged. 257 00:13:41,445 --> 00:13:45,946 But anybody who is cozy with themselves 258 00:13:45,987 --> 00:13:48,863 and all the stuff is probably going to be cool with it. 259 00:13:48,905 --> 00:13:50,923 Yeah, I'm curious to see what's going on with this thing, 260 00:13:50,947 --> 00:13:53,131 just as far as, like, how it's going to reference Cruising, 261 00:13:53,155 --> 00:13:54,757 'cause I didn't know that that was the deal, 262 00:13:54,781 --> 00:13:56,715 but clearly, that's what's going on here. 263 00:13:56,739 --> 00:13:58,949 When did you find out about this project? 264 00:13:58,990 --> 00:14:00,841 - About two weeks ago. - It was just, like, an email 265 00:14:00,865 --> 00:14:03,532 that went around, 'cause Franco used to go to Playhouse West, 266 00:14:03,575 --> 00:14:04,967 - and he's still involved. - Right. 267 00:14:04,991 --> 00:14:06,342 So it was just like, "Yeah, guys, 268 00:14:06,366 --> 00:14:08,366 come out for a gay-bar scene." 269 00:14:08,408 --> 00:14:10,367 Interesting. 270 00:14:10,409 --> 00:14:12,135 And they asked me how far I could go, 271 00:14:12,159 --> 00:14:14,827 and I honestly said, like, "Everything but sex." 272 00:14:14,868 --> 00:14:17,160 I mean, I don't mind kissing and, you know... 273 00:14:17,202 --> 00:14:19,119 - Are you gay? - No. 274 00:14:19,161 --> 00:14:21,078 That's the thing, it's like... but as an actor, 275 00:14:21,119 --> 00:14:23,619 I feel like you... I don't... 276 00:14:23,661 --> 00:14:26,388 I remember 30 people came, and they all left the theater, 277 00:14:26,412 --> 00:14:28,245 - because they were shocked. - Really? 278 00:14:28,287 --> 00:14:30,121 Yeah. I was like, "I don't get it." 279 00:14:30,163 --> 00:14:32,181 If you're an actor and you don't want to kiss a guy, 280 00:14:32,205 --> 00:14:35,164 I mean, if that's your limit, I don't understand. 281 00:14:38,831 --> 00:14:40,957 - So what do you think? - Are you uncomfortable? 282 00:14:40,998 --> 00:14:42,641 I mean, I'm a little uncomfortable just 'cause 283 00:14:42,665 --> 00:14:44,791 I don't know exactly, you know, what I'm doing. 284 00:14:44,833 --> 00:14:47,416 Mm-hmm. 285 00:14:47,458 --> 00:14:51,209 But it's cool, I mean, I'll figure it out, but... 286 00:14:51,250 --> 00:14:52,959 You know, what exactly am I doing? 287 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,418 It sounds like Al Pacino was uncomfortable 288 00:14:56,460 --> 00:14:58,543 when he did it. 289 00:15:00,627 --> 00:15:05,002 Did he have a script? 290 00:15:05,044 --> 00:15:07,587 Fuck scripts. 291 00:15:07,628 --> 00:15:11,588 Just go in there and, you know, just kind of fit in. 292 00:15:11,629 --> 00:15:13,963 Get down with what's going... 293 00:15:14,004 --> 00:15:16,255 - And just try and fit in. - What's going down? 294 00:15:16,297 --> 00:15:18,297 I don't know, just... 295 00:15:18,339 --> 00:15:20,339 as if it's, like, a club, you know? 296 00:15:23,256 --> 00:15:25,256 Right? If you're undercover, that's the key. 297 00:15:25,298 --> 00:15:29,257 - Yeah, yeah. - What... 298 00:15:29,299 --> 00:15:30,775 What am I fitting into? I'm just... 299 00:15:30,799 --> 00:15:34,717 You know, it's a club. A club. 300 00:15:34,758 --> 00:15:37,634 - Yeah, exactly. - I mean, I think... 301 00:15:37,676 --> 00:15:42,177 - I'm having a drink. - I'm having a smoke. 302 00:15:42,219 --> 00:15:44,927 Yeah. Exactly. 303 00:15:44,969 --> 00:15:45,927 Checking it out. 304 00:15:45,969 --> 00:15:49,261 Exactly. 305 00:15:49,303 --> 00:15:50,737 Yeah, I mean, what is there to fit into? 306 00:15:50,761 --> 00:15:51,971 I don't know. 307 00:15:52,012 --> 00:15:55,887 Probably easy. Just fit in. 308 00:15:55,929 --> 00:15:58,097 All right. 309 00:15:58,138 --> 00:16:01,305 But you can't get found out. 310 00:16:01,347 --> 00:16:06,014 You got to stay undercover. 311 00:16:07,599 --> 00:16:09,682 Not a belt, but what would you call this? 312 00:16:09,724 --> 00:16:15,683 Yeah, that's, like, a paddle, but call it a throng. 313 00:16:15,725 --> 00:16:18,767 Yeah, it's kind of like inner... inner... 314 00:16:18,809 --> 00:16:20,660 - An in-between thing? - An in-between kind of thing. 315 00:16:20,684 --> 00:16:23,119 Yeah, I just call it a paddle, but it's more like a strap. 316 00:16:23,143 --> 00:16:25,227 - A leather strap. - Okay, great. 317 00:16:25,268 --> 00:16:27,310 Basically, we're going to be in this general area. 318 00:16:27,352 --> 00:16:29,769 It's not... doesn't matter right now how specific it is. 319 00:16:29,811 --> 00:16:31,329 There's going to be some people around here. 320 00:16:31,353 --> 00:16:32,704 There's going to be this guy down here, 321 00:16:32,728 --> 00:16:34,604 and he's going to leave your cock, 322 00:16:34,645 --> 00:16:36,437 and then he's going to worship your boots. 323 00:16:36,479 --> 00:16:38,355 I mean, basically, you're coming over here, 324 00:16:38,396 --> 00:16:40,855 so Val can see you come over here, 325 00:16:40,896 --> 00:16:43,522 'cause he rebuffed you when you had a moment with him 326 00:16:43,564 --> 00:16:45,207 - just a second ago. - Okay. 327 00:16:45,231 --> 00:16:47,314 You're basically going to submit to what he wants. 328 00:16:47,356 --> 00:16:48,982 - Okay. - Okay? 329 00:16:49,023 --> 00:16:52,232 And the bottom line for me 330 00:16:52,273 --> 00:16:56,608 is that we have something that... 331 00:16:56,649 --> 00:16:59,984 I don't know if this is too extreme of a thing to use, 332 00:17:00,025 --> 00:17:01,942 but it's got to be something visual 333 00:17:01,984 --> 00:17:05,401 that is, like, hitting him, like, on his ass... on his... 334 00:17:10,319 --> 00:17:12,152 How are you feeling about this? 335 00:17:12,194 --> 00:17:13,569 I'm okay with it. 336 00:17:13,611 --> 00:17:15,612 - Yeah? I mean... - Yeah. 337 00:17:15,653 --> 00:17:19,195 We're clearly not going to do anything that's actually hard. 338 00:17:19,237 --> 00:17:21,154 - Yeah, I know. I know. - Yeah, Yeah. Okay. 339 00:17:21,196 --> 00:17:24,113 I trust you guys. 340 00:17:53,827 --> 00:17:56,453 - Your name is Val? - Yeah. 341 00:17:56,495 --> 00:17:58,245 How did you get involved, Val? 342 00:17:58,286 --> 00:18:02,246 James Franco asked me 343 00:18:02,287 --> 00:18:05,162 to come do this. 344 00:18:05,204 --> 00:18:08,372 He said that they're doing this project, 345 00:18:08,413 --> 00:18:11,914 and he wants... they want to reenact... 346 00:18:11,956 --> 00:18:13,557 they're trying to reimagine the 40 minutes 347 00:18:13,581 --> 00:18:17,249 - that was cut out of Cruising. - Cruising? 348 00:18:17,290 --> 00:18:18,249 Yeah, did you ever see that movie? 349 00:18:18,290 --> 00:18:19,415 Never. 350 00:18:19,457 --> 00:18:21,500 It's a movie with Al Pacino, 351 00:18:21,541 --> 00:18:23,041 and William Friedkin directed it. 352 00:18:23,083 --> 00:18:24,500 Okay. 353 00:18:24,541 --> 00:18:28,042 And 40 minutes of the movie was cut out 354 00:18:28,084 --> 00:18:30,459 'cause the rating board wouldn't let them keep it. 355 00:18:30,501 --> 00:18:32,085 - Okay. - So they said 356 00:18:32,127 --> 00:18:34,853 they're reimagining what that 40 minutes was. 357 00:18:34,877 --> 00:18:36,961 - Okay. - And would I come... 358 00:18:37,003 --> 00:18:39,919 - you know, would I come do it? - Mm-hmm. 359 00:18:39,961 --> 00:18:42,438 - So that's how I got involved. - Are you the Pacino character? 360 00:18:42,462 --> 00:18:44,712 - Is that a real cigarette? - Yeah. You want one? 361 00:18:44,754 --> 00:18:46,004 - Yeah. - Here you go. 362 00:18:46,045 --> 00:18:47,106 - Thank you. - You're welcome. 363 00:18:47,130 --> 00:18:49,505 Can you light that for me? 364 00:18:49,546 --> 00:18:52,186 I can't fit a lighter in my disco pants. 365 00:18:54,339 --> 00:18:56,881 Do you mind if we smoke in here, sweetie? 366 00:18:56,922 --> 00:19:00,715 Oh, I don't care. 367 00:19:00,757 --> 00:19:04,008 - Thank you. - You're welcome. 368 00:19:08,550 --> 00:19:09,884 Can I ask you a personal question? 369 00:19:09,925 --> 00:19:11,259 Absolutely. 370 00:19:11,300 --> 00:19:15,010 - Are you straight? - I am straight. 371 00:19:18,177 --> 00:19:23,345 Funny thing... so this morning I get a call from Iris, right? 372 00:19:23,387 --> 00:19:26,012 She calls me up, I look at my phone, it's a 510 number. 373 00:19:26,053 --> 00:19:27,488 I'm like, "Who the hell is this?" Right? 374 00:19:27,512 --> 00:19:31,346 It's, like, 7:00 in the morning, 7:30. 375 00:19:31,388 --> 00:19:33,930 I'm at a girl's house, okay? 376 00:19:33,972 --> 00:19:35,764 So one second, I'm at the girl's house 377 00:19:35,805 --> 00:19:39,348 and looking at my phone, 378 00:19:39,390 --> 00:19:42,931 get a voice mail telling me I'm supposed to be here on set, 379 00:19:42,973 --> 00:19:45,557 get my makeup did... done, 380 00:19:45,599 --> 00:19:49,642 and I thought it was pretty strange, 381 00:19:49,683 --> 00:19:51,558 like, the whole... 382 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,558 I don't know. It was strange. 383 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,976 I was coming from this woman's house, this young woman's house, 384 00:19:57,018 --> 00:19:58,618 coming to get dressed up as a drag queen. 385 00:19:58,643 --> 00:20:02,394 She had no idea at all, but... 386 00:20:02,435 --> 00:20:04,603 I thought it was pretty interesting, though. 387 00:20:04,645 --> 00:20:08,353 So, yeah, I am straight, if that answers your question. 388 00:20:10,646 --> 00:20:14,396 Have you played a homosexual guy before? 389 00:20:14,437 --> 00:20:17,188 Never. 390 00:20:17,230 --> 00:20:18,980 How do you feel about it? 391 00:20:19,022 --> 00:20:22,814 I feel good. 392 00:20:22,856 --> 00:20:24,606 I feel good. Do you feel good? 393 00:20:24,648 --> 00:20:29,190 Yeah. 394 00:20:29,232 --> 00:20:32,191 Yeah, you don't know what you're going to be doing today? 395 00:20:32,233 --> 00:20:33,608 I know I'm going to be sporting 396 00:20:33,650 --> 00:20:36,234 a platinum-blonde wig 397 00:20:36,276 --> 00:20:39,942 and rocking some high heels here in a minute. 398 00:20:42,068 --> 00:20:44,527 Are you comfortable with physical contact 399 00:20:44,568 --> 00:20:46,486 with, like, other dudes? 400 00:20:46,528 --> 00:20:48,861 How much physical contact? 401 00:20:48,903 --> 00:20:50,486 I guess whatever would be realistic 402 00:20:50,528 --> 00:20:54,612 inside of a gay S&M club. 403 00:20:56,363 --> 00:20:58,030 I mean, if it happens, it happens. 404 00:20:58,071 --> 00:20:59,863 Would you kiss another guy? 405 00:20:59,905 --> 00:21:02,197 - If it was... If it was... - If it was correct, 406 00:21:02,239 --> 00:21:04,132 if it was right in the moment, yeah. 407 00:21:04,156 --> 00:21:07,657 I wouldn't force it, 'cause then it would look stupid, 408 00:21:07,698 --> 00:21:10,782 but if it was right, I mean, yeah, why not? 409 00:21:10,823 --> 00:21:15,491 If it was right, yeah. 410 00:21:15,533 --> 00:21:19,075 - Have you kissed a guy before? - I haven't. 411 00:21:19,117 --> 00:21:22,493 So we're both, like, virgins to this? 412 00:21:22,535 --> 00:21:23,910 I guess so, yeah. 413 00:21:23,951 --> 00:21:26,076 I mean, I don't... 414 00:21:26,118 --> 00:21:29,911 Yeah, I guess so. 415 00:21:29,952 --> 00:21:32,078 And you're the Pacino character? 416 00:21:32,120 --> 00:21:34,495 - Kind of. - I mean, not exactly. 417 00:21:34,537 --> 00:21:36,287 I'm kind of playing the character 418 00:21:36,328 --> 00:21:38,913 that Pacino was playing in the original movie. 419 00:21:38,954 --> 00:21:40,704 - Okay. - Are you a Pacino fan? 420 00:21:40,746 --> 00:21:41,954 He's my favorite actor. 421 00:21:41,996 --> 00:21:43,455 - Is he? - Yeah. 422 00:21:43,497 --> 00:21:47,164 Okay, what's your favorite Pacino movie? 423 00:21:47,205 --> 00:21:48,665 Maybe Scarecrow. 424 00:21:48,706 --> 00:21:50,498 - Scarecrow? - Yeah. 425 00:21:50,540 --> 00:21:53,499 - I haven't seen that one. - What's the one with him... 426 00:21:53,541 --> 00:21:58,125 I think my favorite Pacino movie is... 427 00:21:58,167 --> 00:21:59,750 Shoot. 428 00:21:59,792 --> 00:22:01,542 Panic in Needle Park. 429 00:22:01,583 --> 00:22:03,269 - His first one... second one. - Yeah, I like that one. 430 00:22:03,293 --> 00:22:06,334 I like that one a lot. That was a good one. 431 00:22:06,376 --> 00:22:08,127 That's how he got The Godfather. 432 00:22:08,169 --> 00:22:10,460 I did not know that. 433 00:22:10,502 --> 00:22:13,753 Francis Ford Coppola saw about 12 minutes of dailies... 434 00:22:13,795 --> 00:22:15,420 - Oh, okay. - From Panic in Needle Park 435 00:22:15,461 --> 00:22:17,354 - before the movie came out. - Got it. 436 00:22:17,378 --> 00:22:20,087 And he watched those dailies, and he said, "That's the guy 437 00:22:20,129 --> 00:22:21,813 - I want for Michael." - What's a daily? 438 00:22:21,837 --> 00:22:24,505 - Close your eye. - Dailies are, like... 439 00:22:24,547 --> 00:22:28,047 the day's sh... 440 00:22:28,088 --> 00:22:30,131 the results of that day's shooting, 441 00:22:30,173 --> 00:22:33,882 like, just the scenes... just the shots back-to-back, 442 00:22:33,924 --> 00:22:35,590 unedited, raw kind of footage 443 00:22:35,632 --> 00:22:38,883 of the stuff that was shot on that workday. 444 00:22:38,925 --> 00:22:41,550 - That's a daily. - Hmm. Okay. I didn't know that. 445 00:22:41,591 --> 00:22:43,317 Collin, throw him back some of the same questions 446 00:22:43,341 --> 00:22:47,384 he asked you, in terms of, like, you know, 447 00:22:47,426 --> 00:22:49,927 you guys talked about being straight and being on this. 448 00:22:49,968 --> 00:22:52,593 One question he asked you was, has he ever... 449 00:22:52,635 --> 00:22:54,218 "Have you ever played a gay guy?" 450 00:22:54,261 --> 00:22:56,011 Have you ever played a gay guy? 451 00:22:56,053 --> 00:22:57,011 But wait, wait till I'm done talking, so it's clean. 452 00:22:57,053 --> 00:22:59,261 Got it. 453 00:22:59,303 --> 00:23:04,805 - So just ease into that. - Okay. 454 00:23:04,846 --> 00:23:06,596 You're telling me about dailies, which means 455 00:23:06,638 --> 00:23:09,180 you've probably been doing this a lot longer than I have, 456 00:23:09,221 --> 00:23:11,264 so you've probably done more characters 457 00:23:11,306 --> 00:23:12,740 or more scenes or whatever. 458 00:23:12,764 --> 00:23:14,806 Have you played a gay guy? 459 00:23:14,848 --> 00:23:16,223 - Yeah. - You have? 460 00:23:16,265 --> 00:23:19,473 - Just lately. - Yeah, I played Sal Mineo. 461 00:23:19,515 --> 00:23:22,433 Was that tough? 462 00:23:22,474 --> 00:23:24,974 It was tough to play him, not because he was gay, 463 00:23:25,016 --> 00:23:26,451 but just, you know, to kind of get his... 464 00:23:26,475 --> 00:23:27,701 - Mm-hmm. - 'Cause it's different 465 00:23:27,725 --> 00:23:29,035 - from, like, how you are, right? - Yeah. 466 00:23:29,059 --> 00:23:32,810 - Yeah. - I can imagine. 467 00:23:32,851 --> 00:23:37,852 Honestly, I have no idea why James would want to do this. 468 00:23:37,894 --> 00:23:40,603 I haven't even seen him yet. I don't even know him. 469 00:23:40,645 --> 00:23:43,770 I've only seen him in films. 470 00:23:43,812 --> 00:23:45,813 How long have you known him? 471 00:23:45,854 --> 00:23:47,229 15 years. 472 00:23:47,271 --> 00:23:49,146 - 15 years? - Holy shit. 473 00:23:49,188 --> 00:23:50,604 We started Playhouse together. 474 00:23:50,646 --> 00:23:52,439 - Oh, awesome. - That's amazing. 475 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,480 I've only been at Playhouse for, like, two months, 476 00:23:55,522 --> 00:23:58,690 to be honest with you. 477 00:23:58,731 --> 00:24:02,107 Yeah, I'm not sure exactly why he wants to make the movie... 478 00:24:02,149 --> 00:24:05,107 - why he wants to make this. - Mm-hmm. 479 00:24:05,149 --> 00:24:06,983 I have an idea. 480 00:24:07,025 --> 00:24:09,483 What's your idea? 481 00:24:09,525 --> 00:24:11,233 - I think it's about... - 'Cause I'm really 482 00:24:11,275 --> 00:24:14,484 fucking curious, so please inform me. 483 00:24:14,526 --> 00:24:17,277 I think it's about the right 484 00:24:17,319 --> 00:24:21,777 to have the freedom to express 485 00:24:21,820 --> 00:24:27,112 your artistic kind of aspirations to tell a story 486 00:24:27,154 --> 00:24:32,697 or to not have limits on creativity 487 00:24:32,738 --> 00:24:36,738 and that maybe if it's coming from an artistic place, 488 00:24:36,780 --> 00:24:38,656 that nothing should be taboo. 489 00:24:38,698 --> 00:24:40,948 Mm-hmm. 490 00:24:40,989 --> 00:24:42,990 I think... I think... 491 00:24:43,032 --> 00:24:48,325 The stuff that they cut out was people actually having sex. 492 00:24:48,366 --> 00:24:51,533 It was... 493 00:24:51,575 --> 00:24:54,826 Gay or straight, I think people were actually fucking, so... 494 00:24:54,867 --> 00:24:56,742 You know what I mean? 495 00:24:56,784 --> 00:24:58,952 Are people fucking today? 496 00:24:58,993 --> 00:25:01,535 - I don't know. - You're not. 497 00:25:01,577 --> 00:25:02,785 - No. - I don't think I am. 498 00:25:02,827 --> 00:25:04,161 - Can you look up for me? - Yeah. 499 00:25:04,203 --> 00:25:08,161 - Would you? - Probably not. 500 00:25:08,204 --> 00:25:10,180 I mean, if you want my honest... my honest... 501 00:25:10,204 --> 00:25:12,638 I could lie and be all like, "Yeah, I would," but honestly, 502 00:25:12,662 --> 00:25:15,222 probably not, no, unless I was getting paid a hefty sum. 503 00:25:15,246 --> 00:25:19,789 Would you fuck for... without getting paid? 504 00:25:19,831 --> 00:25:22,414 I wouldn't fuck, period. 505 00:25:32,541 --> 00:25:35,584 We're doing... we're doing... 506 00:25:35,625 --> 00:25:38,042 We're doing the wide that's going to not have Val dancing. 507 00:25:38,084 --> 00:25:40,043 - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Okay. 508 00:25:40,085 --> 00:25:43,293 - So do you know how to do this? - Okay, so basically... 509 00:25:43,335 --> 00:25:44,978 It's basically, like, you can just be, like... 510 00:25:45,002 --> 00:25:46,419 - Oh, okay. - Okay. 511 00:25:46,461 --> 00:25:50,212 But we need to take some of this liquid out. 512 00:25:50,253 --> 00:25:51,979 That's fine, I just don't want him to have, like, 513 00:25:52,003 --> 00:25:53,563 - actual water go into his nose. - Sure, yeah. 514 00:25:53,587 --> 00:25:55,588 - I just need to get right... - Fine. 515 00:25:58,379 --> 00:26:01,005 Giving him enough attention, but not so much that he knows? 516 00:26:01,047 --> 00:26:05,048 - Yeah. - That sounds good. Yeah. 517 00:26:07,465 --> 00:26:09,090 Is everybody in here now? 518 00:26:09,131 --> 00:26:13,174 Are all of the guys for the bar scene in here? 519 00:26:13,216 --> 00:26:16,133 Okay, so one thing I want to say is, 520 00:26:16,175 --> 00:26:19,300 so much about this is about the cruising, 521 00:26:19,342 --> 00:26:21,676 the watching, the looking. 522 00:26:21,718 --> 00:26:23,569 So it's so much about your guys' eyes. 523 00:26:23,593 --> 00:26:25,844 So you're always... You know, unlike 2012, 524 00:26:25,885 --> 00:26:27,445 people aren't buried into their phones 525 00:26:27,469 --> 00:26:29,635 or buried, like, in something. They're, like... 526 00:26:29,677 --> 00:26:31,428 You guys are looking around. 527 00:26:31,470 --> 00:26:33,053 You're looking for somebody basically 528 00:26:33,095 --> 00:26:37,054 to have some action with. 529 00:26:45,138 --> 00:26:48,098 And when you're dancing... so we want to have... 530 00:26:48,139 --> 00:26:49,889 One of the things we want are layers, 531 00:26:49,931 --> 00:26:51,765 so I want you guys to not be in a line 532 00:26:51,807 --> 00:26:54,807 and some of you to be on the other side of me. 533 00:26:54,849 --> 00:26:56,725 You're not quite against the wall. 534 00:26:56,766 --> 00:26:59,475 You'll be here dancing. 535 00:27:08,518 --> 00:27:10,685 Okay, that's perfect. 536 00:27:10,727 --> 00:27:13,353 While that's happening, 537 00:27:13,394 --> 00:27:16,853 you two are looking at each other. 538 00:27:25,396 --> 00:27:28,356 And then maybe one more person dancing. 539 00:27:28,397 --> 00:27:30,147 Are you in this? 540 00:27:30,189 --> 00:27:33,523 Why don't you be back here, 541 00:27:33,565 --> 00:27:35,065 and you know that you're hot shit, 542 00:27:35,107 --> 00:27:36,624 and you've got, like, a hot-shit outfit on 543 00:27:36,648 --> 00:27:38,441 or a minimal hot-shit outfit on, 544 00:27:38,483 --> 00:27:40,566 and you're kind of... you're waiting for somebody 545 00:27:40,608 --> 00:27:42,524 to come over and cruise you, but you're sort of 546 00:27:42,566 --> 00:27:45,942 cruising the room to see who's going to come your direction. 547 00:27:45,984 --> 00:27:47,400 - Yeah. - You can handle that. 548 00:27:47,442 --> 00:27:49,360 - Sounds good. - Okay. 549 00:27:49,401 --> 00:27:51,401 Okay, and then do we want anyone walking through 550 00:27:51,443 --> 00:27:52,401 either way? 551 00:27:52,443 --> 00:27:55,611 Yeah. 552 00:28:14,365 --> 00:28:16,674 - I can't see... like, I can't... - Like, I can't... I just can't. 553 00:28:16,698 --> 00:28:18,365 My head's too big to see. 554 00:28:18,406 --> 00:28:22,199 - It's the other way. - You put it on the wrong way. 555 00:28:22,241 --> 00:28:25,575 It's not working. 556 00:28:25,617 --> 00:28:26,801 Show him how to do it, Iris. 557 00:28:26,825 --> 00:28:29,784 Yeah, baby. 558 00:28:29,826 --> 00:28:32,993 - I can't. - Yo, come on. 559 00:28:33,034 --> 00:28:34,702 I literally am, like, sweating, 560 00:28:34,744 --> 00:28:35,970 and like, freaking out. You want me to do it, 561 00:28:35,994 --> 00:28:37,470 - I'll do it. - Yeah, baby. 562 00:28:37,494 --> 00:28:38,845 - You really want me to do it? - Yeah, baby. 563 00:28:38,869 --> 00:28:40,370 If I faint, it's on your head. 564 00:28:40,411 --> 00:28:44,996 - Does anyone else need water? - Yeah. 565 00:28:45,037 --> 00:28:46,847 He wants me to tell you it's hard to breathe. 566 00:28:46,871 --> 00:28:48,180 - It's a pretty intense mask. - Really? 567 00:28:48,204 --> 00:28:49,723 - Yeah. - Someone's going to have to be 568 00:28:49,747 --> 00:28:51,014 with him to, like, make sure he doesn't... 569 00:28:51,038 --> 00:28:52,538 Okay, yeah, just stay with him, 570 00:28:52,580 --> 00:28:54,413 or whoever Travis wants with him. 571 00:28:54,455 --> 00:28:55,664 Hey, Travis? 572 00:29:19,918 --> 00:29:22,544 - Okay, you guys. - Okay, go. 573 00:29:40,714 --> 00:29:42,465 I write, like, short stories and stuff. 574 00:29:42,507 --> 00:29:43,965 Yeah. 575 00:29:44,007 --> 00:29:46,924 - What about you? - What do you do? 576 00:29:46,966 --> 00:29:48,883 Like, full-time? 577 00:29:52,300 --> 00:29:54,342 Thanks. 578 00:29:54,384 --> 00:29:56,342 Thanks, man. 579 00:30:00,593 --> 00:30:04,094 - Okay, uh... - Stand right there. 580 00:30:08,928 --> 00:30:11,345 That's a little bit better. 581 00:30:11,387 --> 00:30:14,304 What temperature is that? 582 00:30:17,389 --> 00:30:19,930 - That's a good color. - Okay. 583 00:30:19,972 --> 00:30:21,847 - Can we roll camera? - Yep. 584 00:30:21,889 --> 00:30:24,973 Okay, we're going to slate next to James here real fast. 585 00:30:25,015 --> 00:30:28,141 Stand by, guys! 586 00:30:28,182 --> 00:30:31,932 - Okay. - So sound speed. 587 00:30:31,974 --> 00:30:33,392 Roll cameras. 588 00:30:33,433 --> 00:30:35,767 - Rolling. - Rolling. 589 00:34:07,641 --> 00:34:10,475 Thank you! 590 00:34:11,642 --> 00:34:12,975 Lick those boots. 591 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,435 Mmm. 592 00:34:19,476 --> 00:34:22,561 Yeah, boy. 593 00:34:26,062 --> 00:34:27,770 Yeah, okay, great. 594 00:34:27,812 --> 00:34:29,437 - Break for lunch? - Yeah, lunchtime. 595 00:34:29,478 --> 00:34:31,563 - Sweet. - Thanks, everybody. 596 00:34:38,147 --> 00:34:42,065 Would it feel different if it was a guy and a girl in there? 597 00:34:42,106 --> 00:34:43,981 - Yeah, it wouldn't be... - Why? 598 00:34:44,023 --> 00:34:47,357 - It wouldn't make it okay. - Why? 599 00:34:47,399 --> 00:34:48,875 Why would it feel different for me? 600 00:34:48,899 --> 00:34:50,483 - Yeah. - I guess I'd be 601 00:34:50,525 --> 00:34:52,900 a little more used to it, so it'd feel different, 602 00:34:52,942 --> 00:34:55,693 but I still wouldn't want to be in a fucking regular porno, 603 00:34:55,734 --> 00:34:57,085 - gay or fucking not. - Well, here's how I feel. 604 00:34:57,109 --> 00:34:59,651 I don't like the fact that I feel like 605 00:34:59,693 --> 00:35:01,902 I've been brought up to think a certain way. 606 00:35:01,944 --> 00:35:03,319 I don't like thinking that. 607 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,777 I don't like realizing 608 00:35:05,819 --> 00:35:10,570 that my mind has been twisted by the way that 609 00:35:10,611 --> 00:35:12,487 the world has been set up around me, 610 00:35:12,529 --> 00:35:17,197 and what that is, is straight, normative kind of behavior. 611 00:35:17,238 --> 00:35:19,738 And it's fucking instilled into my brain. 612 00:35:19,780 --> 00:35:21,573 And it's... 613 00:35:21,614 --> 00:35:24,031 Yeah, I'd say, you know, it was a little shocking to me 614 00:35:24,073 --> 00:35:28,574 at first when I'm watching that, but only... 615 00:35:28,615 --> 00:35:31,324 I believe, only because of the world around me, 616 00:35:31,365 --> 00:35:34,616 because every fucking toilet-paper commercial 617 00:35:34,658 --> 00:35:38,534 has a guy... a man and a woman living in a house together, 618 00:35:38,576 --> 00:35:41,451 and every fucking love story 619 00:35:41,492 --> 00:35:44,410 is a dude that wants to be with a girl. 620 00:35:44,452 --> 00:35:46,743 And the only way they're going to end up happy 621 00:35:46,785 --> 00:35:49,328 is if they walk off into the sunset together. 622 00:35:49,369 --> 00:35:51,536 I'm fucking sick of that shit, 623 00:35:51,578 --> 00:35:55,287 so if there's a way for me to just break that up 624 00:35:55,329 --> 00:35:57,788 in my own mind, I'm all for it. 625 00:35:57,830 --> 00:36:01,121 And that's, I think, why you want to be an actor 626 00:36:01,163 --> 00:36:02,872 and be an artist. 627 00:36:02,914 --> 00:36:05,747 You think that this should be, like, in movies 628 00:36:05,789 --> 00:36:07,348 and people should be able to see it and... 629 00:36:07,372 --> 00:36:09,582 Yes! Fuck, yes! 630 00:36:09,623 --> 00:36:11,665 - But... - Yes, sex should be a tool, 631 00:36:11,707 --> 00:36:15,184 a storytelling tool, but we're so fucking scared of it. 632 00:36:15,208 --> 00:36:16,833 Everybody talks about sex, 633 00:36:16,874 --> 00:36:18,060 but then don't dare put it in a movie. 634 00:36:18,084 --> 00:36:19,792 It's like, what the fuck? 635 00:36:19,834 --> 00:36:21,810 Or you're allowed to talk about it in certain ways, 636 00:36:21,834 --> 00:36:25,793 like fucking locker-room humor or frat-house kind of humor, 637 00:36:25,835 --> 00:36:29,002 but, oh, don't show gay sex. 638 00:36:29,044 --> 00:36:31,377 Don't do that. That's the fucking devil. 639 00:36:31,419 --> 00:36:34,378 Show... in previews, show people getting fucking blown away 640 00:36:34,420 --> 00:36:37,212 and killed, but don't show gay sex. 641 00:36:37,253 --> 00:36:38,838 They do show fucking gay sex. 642 00:36:38,879 --> 00:36:40,504 They show it in, like, rated-X theaters. 643 00:36:40,546 --> 00:36:43,004 They sh... yeah! 644 00:36:43,046 --> 00:36:45,547 Put it in the fucking mainstream. 645 00:36:45,589 --> 00:36:47,214 Why? 646 00:36:47,255 --> 00:36:49,232 - To help tell stories! - It's a great fucking tool. 647 00:36:49,256 --> 00:36:51,840 It's what... It's who we are. Everybody has sex. 648 00:36:51,881 --> 00:36:54,216 Everybody thinks about sex all the fucking time. 649 00:36:54,257 --> 00:36:55,882 We can't fucking put it in movies? 650 00:36:55,924 --> 00:36:57,608 We can put fucking people killing each other... 651 00:36:57,632 --> 00:36:58,858 - Sex is in the movies. - Strangling each other, 652 00:36:58,882 --> 00:37:00,359 murdering each other? 653 00:37:00,383 --> 00:37:02,925 There's sex in fucking movies everywhere. 654 00:37:02,967 --> 00:37:05,051 - In a certain way. - Yeah, because you know... 655 00:37:05,093 --> 00:37:08,343 - Not... not... - it's... it's fetishized. 656 00:37:08,384 --> 00:37:10,635 It's turned into, you know... 657 00:37:10,677 --> 00:37:14,886 Something a little more tame for people, right? 658 00:37:14,928 --> 00:37:16,886 Something a little more palatable for... 659 00:37:16,928 --> 00:37:18,845 Well, why don't they give us violence 660 00:37:18,886 --> 00:37:21,679 in a little more palatable way and amp up the sex? 661 00:37:21,721 --> 00:37:24,887 - That's what I say. - Because people like it. 662 00:37:24,929 --> 00:37:27,138 - People like sex! - Yeah, but they go to... 663 00:37:27,180 --> 00:37:28,597 Everybody's fucking watching porn. 664 00:37:28,638 --> 00:37:30,264 They just don't want to talk about it. 665 00:37:30,306 --> 00:37:32,514 They just don't want to talk about it in public. 666 00:37:32,556 --> 00:37:35,640 Everybody fucking watches porn. 667 00:37:35,682 --> 00:37:37,950 There's nothing wrong with it. People have sex. 668 00:37:37,974 --> 00:37:39,950 What's wrong with what we just saw? 669 00:37:39,974 --> 00:37:41,492 - It's too much, dude. - Everybody does it. 670 00:37:41,516 --> 00:37:42,891 It's in bad taste. 671 00:37:42,933 --> 00:37:47,184 Well, we shot it in a tasteful way. 672 00:37:47,226 --> 00:37:49,101 I don't care how you fucking shoot it. 673 00:37:49,142 --> 00:37:51,685 - What do you mean? - You just said "bad taste." 674 00:37:51,727 --> 00:37:54,977 - The act itself is in kind of... - It's too much. 675 00:37:55,018 --> 00:37:57,644 Like, what about leaving something 676 00:37:57,686 --> 00:38:01,062 to the fucking imagination? Like... 677 00:38:01,104 --> 00:38:03,145 It's not a porn for titillation. 678 00:38:03,187 --> 00:38:05,479 It's something else. We're telling a story. 679 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,164 What story are we telling? 680 00:38:07,188 --> 00:38:09,938 I don't know what fucking story we're telling. 681 00:38:09,980 --> 00:38:12,731 About a guy who's uncomfortable, 682 00:38:12,772 --> 00:38:14,731 goes undercover into this world. 683 00:38:14,772 --> 00:38:17,940 And in the original movie, 684 00:38:17,982 --> 00:38:21,733 it was as if he was going down into a deep, dark place. 685 00:38:21,774 --> 00:38:23,983 He was going into an evil place. 686 00:38:24,024 --> 00:38:26,066 That's the way they depicted it, whether Friedkin 687 00:38:26,108 --> 00:38:29,317 intended to or not, by giving it a backdrop of murder, 688 00:38:29,359 --> 00:38:32,068 he was going into a dark, deep, evil place, 689 00:38:32,110 --> 00:38:35,360 and he had to go "undercover" and be gay undercover. 690 00:38:35,401 --> 00:38:36,985 We're doing that. 691 00:38:37,026 --> 00:38:40,194 You're playing a guy who's going undercover, 692 00:38:40,236 --> 00:38:43,612 but to me, he's not going to a dark, evil place. 693 00:38:43,653 --> 00:38:45,987 He's going to actually a place 694 00:38:46,028 --> 00:38:49,779 that's, I think, beautiful and attractive. 695 00:38:49,821 --> 00:38:51,363 That's beautiful and attractive? 696 00:38:51,404 --> 00:38:54,780 I think so. 697 00:38:54,822 --> 00:38:57,447 I got a lot of fucking respect for you, and I hope, 698 00:38:57,489 --> 00:38:59,031 like, you're being careful. 699 00:38:59,073 --> 00:39:01,365 That's all, because... 700 00:39:01,406 --> 00:39:03,574 I'm all for, like, saying what you want to say 701 00:39:03,616 --> 00:39:07,074 and doing what you want to do, but, you know, 702 00:39:07,116 --> 00:39:09,575 there's repercussions at the end of the day. 703 00:39:09,617 --> 00:39:11,377 And you're doing some amazing shit out there, 704 00:39:11,408 --> 00:39:15,618 and things like this can, you know... 705 00:39:15,659 --> 00:39:17,469 You're fucking starring in a Disney movie, 706 00:39:17,493 --> 00:39:21,160 - for Christ's sake. - Mm-hmm. 707 00:39:23,870 --> 00:39:25,846 You know, it's hard to have this conversation with you, 708 00:39:25,870 --> 00:39:29,037 because 70% of me is on your side, 709 00:39:29,079 --> 00:39:32,037 because I think the same way about the things that I believe. 710 00:39:32,079 --> 00:39:33,997 I guess I just don't see what you're seeing, 711 00:39:34,038 --> 00:39:36,080 so I'm tripping out a little bit. 712 00:39:36,122 --> 00:39:40,039 That's all, 'cause I don't... I don't have the insight, 713 00:39:40,081 --> 00:39:42,414 or, really, I don't care to prove 714 00:39:42,456 --> 00:39:43,724 the point that you're making, so I'm not sure 715 00:39:43,748 --> 00:39:46,332 what the fuck is really going on. 716 00:39:46,374 --> 00:39:48,415 - I don't either. - Huh? 717 00:39:48,457 --> 00:39:50,750 I don't know fully what's going on. 718 00:39:50,791 --> 00:39:52,208 It's about being here. 719 00:39:52,250 --> 00:39:53,916 It's about doing this, 720 00:39:53,958 --> 00:39:56,209 experiencing this, just putting ourselves out there. 721 00:39:56,251 --> 00:39:59,084 That's half of it, just doing it. 722 00:39:59,126 --> 00:40:02,252 And being in a Disney movie and doing it. 723 00:40:02,293 --> 00:40:05,919 That's what's giving it half of its power. 724 00:40:05,961 --> 00:40:07,919 Excuse me. 725 00:40:07,961 --> 00:40:10,045 So I think you're going to have to get up. 726 00:40:10,087 --> 00:40:12,504 Yeah. 727 00:40:14,712 --> 00:40:15,981 So we've got this, we have... 728 00:40:16,005 --> 00:40:17,397 We need another chair, for sure, right? 729 00:40:17,421 --> 00:40:21,381 We've got this chair and that chair. 730 00:40:21,422 --> 00:40:24,089 Okay. 731 00:40:24,131 --> 00:40:25,673 Travis. Oh, there you are. 732 00:40:25,715 --> 00:40:28,548 Yes. 733 00:41:15,724 --> 00:41:19,392 - Cut. - Beautiful. 734 00:41:25,559 --> 00:41:28,519 Before we launch into... 735 00:41:44,522 --> 00:41:46,188 - Hey, dude. - Yo. 736 00:41:46,230 --> 00:41:48,689 What's going on? 737 00:41:48,731 --> 00:41:53,190 Nothing, I'm here on... on set. 738 00:41:53,232 --> 00:41:56,815 Uh-huh. And? 739 00:41:56,857 --> 00:42:00,608 - And what? - Dicks are out. Balls are out. 740 00:42:00,650 --> 00:42:02,483 People are paddling each other in the ass. 741 00:42:02,525 --> 00:42:05,442 There's bruises. There's fucking welts. 742 00:42:05,484 --> 00:42:11,402 Sucking, fucking, armpits, balls, assholes. 743 00:42:11,443 --> 00:42:13,193 Everything's out, dude. 744 00:42:13,235 --> 00:42:15,379 - Man, I got to tell you... - I don't fucking understand this. 745 00:42:15,403 --> 00:42:16,944 I don't know why you're there. 746 00:42:16,986 --> 00:42:20,445 I don't know why you're doing this again. 747 00:42:20,487 --> 00:42:22,487 I'm doing it 'cause... 748 00:42:22,529 --> 00:42:24,905 fucking James wants to do this thing. 749 00:42:24,946 --> 00:42:26,714 He's got something to say, and he needs people 750 00:42:26,738 --> 00:42:30,614 to, you know, help him say it. 751 00:42:30,656 --> 00:42:33,322 - He needs people to what? - He is. He's in it. 752 00:42:33,364 --> 00:42:35,282 He's in it right alongside me. 753 00:42:35,323 --> 00:42:40,449 Exactly, and he's a major, major actor. 754 00:42:40,491 --> 00:42:42,449 And you aren't. 755 00:42:42,491 --> 00:42:45,010 I'm just saying, you've done... this is the third or fourth time 756 00:42:45,034 --> 00:42:49,075 you've been at the forefront of his expression, 757 00:42:49,117 --> 00:42:52,826 and it's always some fucked-up, radical thing. 758 00:42:52,868 --> 00:42:55,452 Why does my instinct call me a dick? 759 00:42:55,494 --> 00:42:57,678 And if he's got something to say and he needs my help to say it, 760 00:42:57,702 --> 00:42:59,678 then fuck it, man, I'm going to help him say it. 761 00:42:59,702 --> 00:43:01,412 All right, by that logic, then, 762 00:43:01,453 --> 00:43:03,513 if he wants you to go butt-fuck one of those guys in there 763 00:43:03,537 --> 00:43:06,663 because he wants to express something 764 00:43:06,704 --> 00:43:08,704 and you're in full support of that, 765 00:43:08,746 --> 00:43:10,414 why don't you go ahead and do that? 766 00:43:10,455 --> 00:43:12,348 James thinks it should be drawn at a certain place. 767 00:43:12,372 --> 00:43:14,140 I think it should be drawn at a certain place. 768 00:43:14,164 --> 00:43:16,706 Fucking Facebook user number 3,000,054 769 00:43:16,748 --> 00:43:18,557 thinks it should be drawn at a certain place. 770 00:43:18,581 --> 00:43:20,415 Who's to say? It's all subjective, man. 771 00:43:20,456 --> 00:43:22,558 I mean, what's he really fucking doing at the end of the day? 772 00:43:22,582 --> 00:43:26,333 He's expressing what he feels about sexual freedom. 773 00:43:26,375 --> 00:43:28,500 You know, people are... 774 00:43:28,542 --> 00:43:30,500 Quentin Tarantino, fucking burning theaters down 775 00:43:30,542 --> 00:43:32,918 in his movies and shit. 776 00:43:32,959 --> 00:43:34,959 There's a reason why this stuff doesn't play 777 00:43:35,001 --> 00:43:36,794 in mainstream theaters... in any theaters 778 00:43:36,835 --> 00:43:40,294 other than pornography theaters. 779 00:43:40,335 --> 00:43:42,545 It's a pornography set by my fucking standards, 780 00:43:42,586 --> 00:43:44,226 but what's bothering me is... 781 00:43:44,253 --> 00:43:45,937 You're the one that's in the center of all this thing. 782 00:43:45,961 --> 00:43:47,712 You're in the center of everything. 783 00:43:47,754 --> 00:43:50,837 This whole thing revolves around you. 784 00:43:50,879 --> 00:43:52,797 - He's got my back, dude. - I trust him. 785 00:43:52,838 --> 00:43:57,381 I'm just saying that at the end of the day, 786 00:43:57,423 --> 00:44:00,381 anyone watching this will consider it pornography. 787 00:44:00,423 --> 00:44:04,090 - Fuck 'em. - And you will be in it. 788 00:44:11,633 --> 00:44:13,592 I was thinking for the scene... 789 00:44:13,634 --> 00:44:16,176 because we've already gotten you guys at the bar 790 00:44:16,217 --> 00:44:18,385 and we've established that you guys were together 791 00:44:18,427 --> 00:44:20,387 and Master Avery was at the bar... 792 00:44:20,427 --> 00:44:24,178 So I was thinking for this that it would be basically 793 00:44:24,219 --> 00:44:27,386 as if he brought you back to his apartment. 794 00:44:27,428 --> 00:44:28,387 Okay. 795 00:44:28,429 --> 00:44:31,179 And he is kind of instructing 796 00:44:31,220 --> 00:44:33,930 you guys on what to do, or he's sort of, like, 797 00:44:33,971 --> 00:44:35,930 silently watching you guys as you guys have sex. 798 00:44:35,971 --> 00:44:37,806 - Okay. - Okay. 799 00:44:37,847 --> 00:44:42,431 But the thing that's interesting about it to me 800 00:44:42,472 --> 00:44:46,015 is less about actually what's happening here 801 00:44:46,057 --> 00:44:49,058 and the fact that Val is watching it. 802 00:44:49,099 --> 00:44:50,808 And all that we need is... 803 00:44:50,849 --> 00:44:52,825 'cause we can shoot this tight too, 804 00:44:52,849 --> 00:44:55,309 - but all that we need is... - Is something... 805 00:44:55,350 --> 00:44:57,642 Just something bright behind it, 806 00:44:57,684 --> 00:44:59,851 just right here, so if we get, like, close on his face, 807 00:44:59,893 --> 00:45:01,494 it's not black. 808 00:45:01,518 --> 00:45:03,452 How about we move this table with the lamp in there? 809 00:45:03,476 --> 00:45:05,436 Well, we want... we want... 810 00:45:05,477 --> 00:45:07,977 we want, like, behind him to not be black. 811 00:45:08,019 --> 00:45:09,895 Yeah, nothing that would make too much of... 812 00:45:09,937 --> 00:45:12,270 You think this is funny, you know, 813 00:45:12,312 --> 00:45:14,271 and then he'll laugh, of course, again, 814 00:45:14,313 --> 00:45:16,271 and then you can be like, "No, this isn't funny." 815 00:45:16,313 --> 00:45:18,497 And then you can, you know, like, give him a little slap 816 00:45:18,521 --> 00:45:20,272 you know, on the face, you know, here. 817 00:45:20,314 --> 00:45:22,439 You shut him up, basically. You take charge. 818 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,291 You don't want him to laugh. It's not funny to you. 819 00:45:24,315 --> 00:45:26,815 It is funny to him, but you're controlling him. 820 00:45:26,856 --> 00:45:28,731 And he's going to have to, like, listen, 821 00:45:28,773 --> 00:45:30,107 or else you're going to hurt him. 822 00:45:30,149 --> 00:45:31,982 - You know... - How do... 823 00:45:32,024 --> 00:45:35,067 How do you feel about that? 824 00:45:35,108 --> 00:45:37,775 I don't know, like, that's just not my... yeah. 825 00:45:37,817 --> 00:45:40,193 It's sexy, because you know he wants it. 826 00:45:40,234 --> 00:45:43,276 And that's what's fun, because you know he wants it, 827 00:45:43,318 --> 00:45:45,735 and you got to play this part and, like, work it out 828 00:45:45,777 --> 00:45:48,860 in your head to be able to do it, 'cause he wants it. 829 00:45:48,902 --> 00:45:51,528 He's a, you know, laughing little boy here, 830 00:45:51,570 --> 00:45:53,778 thinks everything is funny, but he really wants 831 00:45:53,820 --> 00:45:56,321 to be put in his place, and he wants to behave. 832 00:45:56,362 --> 00:46:00,029 My gosh. 833 00:46:08,906 --> 00:46:11,115 You're missing that ring there. 834 00:46:11,157 --> 00:46:12,657 Oh, that's what it needs. 835 00:46:19,950 --> 00:46:21,534 - Shall we get rolling? - Yep. 836 00:46:21,576 --> 00:46:24,701 - All right, so roll sound. - Sound speed. 837 00:46:24,742 --> 00:46:28,785 - Scene... don't really know. - Take one marker. 838 00:47:35,048 --> 00:47:37,423 - You like that? - Yes, sir. 839 00:47:37,465 --> 00:47:41,132 Yes, sir. 840 00:49:32,404 --> 00:49:34,821 Okay. 841 00:49:52,867 --> 00:49:55,783 - I wasn't, you know... - I wasn't... 842 00:49:55,825 --> 00:49:57,576 Like, this is the third... 843 00:49:57,618 --> 00:49:59,510 this will be the third film I've done, and it will be 844 00:49:59,534 --> 00:50:01,974 the third film I've done where I spend the entire thing naked. 845 00:50:03,077 --> 00:50:05,619 So I really, like... 846 00:50:05,660 --> 00:50:09,036 It's not what I wanted to do next, but... 847 00:50:09,078 --> 00:50:10,453 You must be good at it. 848 00:50:12,871 --> 00:50:14,204 Thanks, Ben. 849 00:50:14,246 --> 00:50:18,038 But seriously, like, I'm... 850 00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:24,039 I'm trusting that it's going to be 851 00:50:24,081 --> 00:50:27,831 tasteful bondage art porn, you know, like, I... 852 00:50:27,873 --> 00:50:29,457 - Done smartly? - Yeah. 853 00:50:29,499 --> 00:50:32,457 It's going to be smart. It's going to... 854 00:50:32,499 --> 00:50:34,708 Like, I can already see that it is smart, you know? 855 00:50:34,750 --> 00:50:36,291 - I don't... - like, what was... 856 00:50:36,333 --> 00:50:37,958 Like, what's the point of it all? 857 00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:39,334 You're, like... 858 00:50:39,376 --> 00:50:40,876 - Ooh. - Yeah, do you guys even know? 859 00:50:40,917 --> 00:50:43,251 'Cause I really can't quite figure out... 860 00:50:43,292 --> 00:50:45,686 I have zero clue. I mean, I was involved in so little. 861 00:50:45,710 --> 00:50:47,228 You guys were involved in more. 862 00:50:47,252 --> 00:50:49,253 You're friends with James, right? Like... 863 00:50:49,294 --> 00:50:50,336 There's a purpose to it. 864 00:50:50,378 --> 00:50:51,919 He's got a purpose to it, 865 00:50:51,961 --> 00:50:55,379 even if that purpose is to quench his own curiosity. 866 00:50:55,420 --> 00:50:57,254 Yeah. 867 00:50:57,295 --> 00:50:59,272 Sometimes you need help to do that, and here we are. 868 00:50:59,296 --> 00:51:01,088 We're all, you know... 869 00:51:01,130 --> 00:51:04,464 Helping him do that and maybe... I think I've learned something. 870 00:51:04,506 --> 00:51:06,089 I don't know what it is, 871 00:51:06,131 --> 00:51:07,565 but I'm definitely not the same guy I was when 872 00:51:07,589 --> 00:51:09,465 - I came in here this morning. - Sure. 873 00:51:09,507 --> 00:51:12,090 - Do you have a girlfriend? - I'm married. 874 00:51:12,132 --> 00:51:13,632 - You're married? - Yeah. 875 00:51:13,673 --> 00:51:14,900 What does your wife think about all this? 876 00:51:14,924 --> 00:51:18,133 - She's cool, man. - She's... 877 00:51:18,174 --> 00:51:20,925 She's a really cool girl. 878 00:51:20,967 --> 00:51:22,800 You know, she knows that I'm not taking part 879 00:51:22,842 --> 00:51:25,301 in any kind of, like, sexual things, 880 00:51:25,343 --> 00:51:28,135 but she just doesn't understand. 881 00:51:28,176 --> 00:51:30,136 She's like, "Well, I don't understand." 882 00:51:30,177 --> 00:51:31,903 And I found myself getting frustrated 883 00:51:31,927 --> 00:51:33,677 - trying to explain it to her. - Yeah. 884 00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,762 Really frustrated, and it became apparent 885 00:51:36,803 --> 00:51:40,304 that I don't fucking understand either. 886 00:51:40,346 --> 00:51:41,739 But she was cool, she just wants me 887 00:51:41,763 --> 00:51:43,643 to make it back in time to go to dinner tonight. 888 00:51:45,597 --> 00:51:51,223 I told my mom about it, and I could feel 889 00:51:51,265 --> 00:51:52,991 her stress through the phone. 890 00:51:53,015 --> 00:51:54,973 Like, she did not think this was a good idea 891 00:51:55,015 --> 00:51:59,057 for our relationship or my career or anything. 892 00:51:59,099 --> 00:52:01,350 Like, she, I think, is terrified. 893 00:52:01,392 --> 00:52:04,433 You know what? You two were really sweet together, though. 894 00:52:04,475 --> 00:52:06,351 I mean, you just kind of were there 895 00:52:06,393 --> 00:52:10,559 in such a gentle, cool, kind of a supportive way. 896 00:52:10,601 --> 00:52:12,644 I could tell you're a couple. 897 00:52:12,685 --> 00:52:15,352 It was actually really, really nice. 898 00:52:15,394 --> 00:52:17,579 But I can see how people who care about us... 899 00:52:17,603 --> 00:52:20,353 Just the idea... Maybe that's it, man. 900 00:52:20,395 --> 00:52:23,187 Maybe it's the idea of things are so much fucking bigger 901 00:52:23,229 --> 00:52:27,438 than they actually are when you see them and do them. 902 00:52:31,438 --> 00:52:33,481 One thing's for sure. We're a sexy bunch. 903 00:52:33,523 --> 00:52:35,023 That's for sure. 904 00:52:35,064 --> 00:52:36,415 - Good-looking group of guys. - Hear, hear. 905 00:52:36,439 --> 00:52:38,357 Where's my water? 906 00:52:57,653 --> 00:53:01,028 - Hey, it's James. - Please leave a message. 907 00:53:01,069 --> 00:53:03,237 - Who's here? - You're not here. 908 00:53:03,279 --> 00:53:05,820 Where the fuck you at? 909 00:53:05,862 --> 00:53:09,530 Where you at, James? Call me back. 910 00:53:44,828 --> 00:53:47,912 How's it going over there? 911 00:53:47,953 --> 00:53:50,496 Good. 912 00:53:50,538 --> 00:53:53,913 - Yeah? - Yeah. 913 00:53:53,954 --> 00:53:58,122 Do I need to buy a strap-on now and give it to you? 914 00:53:58,164 --> 00:54:00,790 - Shut up. - Don't be stupid. 915 00:54:00,831 --> 00:54:02,706 Mm-hmm. 916 00:54:02,748 --> 00:54:05,166 It's good to hear your voice. 917 00:54:05,207 --> 00:54:06,707 - Yeah? - Yeah. 918 00:54:06,749 --> 00:54:10,333 It's good to hear your voice. 919 00:54:10,375 --> 00:54:15,126 - So? - So? 920 00:54:15,168 --> 00:54:17,334 Everything good? 921 00:54:17,376 --> 00:54:20,710 Yeah, it's fine. 922 00:54:20,752 --> 00:54:23,710 Okay. 923 00:54:23,752 --> 00:54:25,920 You're going to be home at 8:00, right? 924 00:54:25,961 --> 00:54:28,545 Yeah, I should be home by 8:00, probably before. 925 00:54:40,588 --> 00:54:44,173 "Val sits against the wall in the parking lot. 926 00:54:44,214 --> 00:54:45,757 "Script is in his lap. 927 00:54:45,799 --> 00:54:48,382 "He reads to himself. 928 00:54:48,424 --> 00:54:50,549 "Val sits against the wall in the parking lot. 929 00:54:50,590 --> 00:54:53,758 "The script is in his lap. 930 00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:58,592 "He reads to himself. 931 00:54:58,634 --> 00:55:02,010 Interior. Leather Bar. 1980." 931 00:55:03,305 --> 00:56:03,906