"Beyond Skinwalker Ranch" Pennsylvania's Roswell

1 00:00:03,580 --> 00:00:04,766 Tonight on "beyond skin walker ranch." 2 00:00:04,790 --> 00:00:06,386 Back in 1965, an object 3 00:00:06,410 --> 00:00:10,096 came in about 4:47 pm over the greater Pittsburgh area. 4 00:00:10,120 --> 00:00:12,580 There was guys out there in dark suits. 5 00:00:12,700 --> 00:00:15,056 The official explanation was the next day, 6 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:16,386 it was a bright meteor in the sky. 7 00:00:16,410 --> 00:00:18,176 They went to their death bed 8 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,266 stating that something did happen here in kecksburg. 9 00:00:21,290 --> 00:00:22,766 I've got dead stick, 10 00:00:22,790 --> 00:00:26,160 which is really concerning because I can't abort. 11 00:00:26,290 --> 00:00:27,830 It's just freaking me out. 12 00:00:27,950 --> 00:00:29,726 That's manmade earthwork. 13 00:00:29,750 --> 00:00:30,750 It's impossible. 14 00:00:30,830 --> 00:00:32,306 I mean, here we go again, right? 15 00:00:32,330 --> 00:00:34,176 This looks like it's just coming 16 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:35,136 out of the dad gum ground. 17 00:00:35,160 --> 00:00:36,476 That shouldn't be there. 18 00:00:36,500 --> 00:00:37,976 Whatever that is, it shouldn't be there. 19 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,846 We might have actually found the real crash site. 20 00:00:41,870 --> 00:00:43,410 I want my mommy. 21 00:00:43,540 --> 00:00:45,556 For years, scientists have 22 00:00:45,580 --> 00:00:49,766 been working to reveal the secrets of skin walker ranch. 23 00:00:49,790 --> 00:00:51,926 But is it possible that the clues 24 00:00:51,950 --> 00:00:54,500 to unlock the mystery are located 25 00:00:54,620 --> 00:00:58,386 beyond the borders of this hub of high strangeness? 26 00:00:58,410 --> 00:01:00,056 Wow! 27 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,096 Now, an ex-CIA agent and a veteran journalist 28 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,250 have been recruited by the skin walker team 29 00:01:05,370 --> 00:01:07,346 to go on a high-stakes mission across america. 30 00:01:07,370 --> 00:01:09,846 Look at all this activity that's happening. 31 00:01:09,870 --> 00:01:10,976 That's unbelievable. 32 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:12,056 That is right over our heads. 33 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:13,516 That's it. That's it right there. 34 00:01:13,540 --> 00:01:14,926 The goal, uncover evidence that 35 00:01:14,950 --> 00:01:16,926 may finally expose the truth. 36 00:01:16,950 --> 00:01:18,306 How is this happening? 37 00:01:18,330 --> 00:01:19,516 Now it's going to get interesting. 38 00:01:19,540 --> 00:01:20,766 - Look, it's moving! - Look at that! 39 00:01:20,790 --> 00:01:21,596 Look at that. 40 00:01:21,620 --> 00:01:24,306 Whoa! 41 00:01:24,330 --> 00:01:27,200 This is just the beginning. 42 00:01:31,290 --> 00:01:34,226 Andy, Paul, where are you about to take us? 43 00:01:34,250 --> 00:01:37,016 So you've all heard of the roswell crash. 44 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:37,926 Sure. 45 00:01:37,950 --> 00:01:39,226 Who hasn't? 46 00:01:39,250 --> 00:01:40,926 But have you heard of the kecksburg crash? 47 00:01:40,950 --> 00:01:42,266 Yes, I have. 48 00:01:42,290 --> 00:01:45,016 Kecksburg, Pennsylvania... yes. 49 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:46,676 Had a relatively well-known, 50 00:01:46,700 --> 00:01:50,766 amongst our community, crash in 1965, that has really kind of 51 00:01:50,790 --> 00:01:51,926 become an unanswered cold case. 52 00:01:51,950 --> 00:01:53,596 Well, I'll confess. 53 00:01:53,620 --> 00:01:56,636 Look, I've been hoping that we might engage this story. 54 00:01:56,660 --> 00:01:58,096 You have? 55 00:01:58,120 --> 00:01:59,886 I know a little bit about it, as does Travis. 56 00:01:59,910 --> 00:02:02,516 And so this is really exciting. 57 00:02:02,540 --> 00:02:05,726 So the story is that there is some kind of craft, 58 00:02:05,750 --> 00:02:09,750 or space debris, or something that came down there, 59 00:02:09,870 --> 00:02:11,306 acorn-shaped. 60 00:02:11,330 --> 00:02:14,016 But what it is, or what it was, or what happened 61 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,160 remains really kind of shrouded in mystery. 62 00:02:16,290 --> 00:02:18,226 There were a lot of witnesses at the time. 63 00:02:18,250 --> 00:02:21,040 It got a lot of coverage, and then just sort of faded 64 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,056 from view under, it seems like, sort of a cloak 65 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,476 of secrecy and some cover up. 66 00:02:26,500 --> 00:02:29,516 We have an opportunity now to go in kecksburg 67 00:02:29,540 --> 00:02:32,160 and see if we can't bring some of the most modern technology 68 00:02:32,290 --> 00:02:33,766 that we have available to us to try 69 00:02:33,790 --> 00:02:36,176 to answer the unanswered questions about what happened 70 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:37,176 in this location. 71 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:38,886 This sounds pretty ambitious. 72 00:02:38,910 --> 00:02:41,056 We don't know what this thing is or how it worked or whatever, 73 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:41,886 - right? - Right. 74 00:02:41,910 --> 00:02:43,596 Was it really a ufo? 75 00:02:43,620 --> 00:02:48,040 Was it a downed experimental craft that was being worked on? 76 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:49,540 Who knows what it could have been? 77 00:02:49,660 --> 00:02:52,056 One asset that we feel like we've got going in here 78 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:53,870 is a guy named Stan Gordon, a guy who 79 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,596 was local to the area, who was really captivated by this 80 00:02:57,620 --> 00:03:00,976 as a young man, and ever since has really 81 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:05,306 been sort of a clearinghouse of stories related to kecksburg 82 00:03:05,330 --> 00:03:06,846 and everything else. 83 00:03:06,870 --> 00:03:08,426 He sounds like a real treasure trove of information 84 00:03:08,450 --> 00:03:09,766 - on this particular... - For sure. 85 00:03:09,790 --> 00:03:11,346 Area. 86 00:03:11,370 --> 00:03:12,806 And the story may be bigger than kecksburg itself. 87 00:03:12,830 --> 00:03:15,176 And here's where we think it gets really interesting. 88 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,766 Kecksburg itself is located in an area 89 00:03:17,790 --> 00:03:19,410 called the Chestnut Ridge. 90 00:03:19,540 --> 00:03:22,636 And Chestnut Ridge is a 100-mile long subrange 91 00:03:22,660 --> 00:03:24,806 of the appalachians, where it turns 92 00:03:24,830 --> 00:03:27,726 out there are reports of all kinds of high strangeness. 93 00:03:27,750 --> 00:03:29,870 We're also going to see another site 94 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:31,160 that's called liver more. 95 00:03:31,290 --> 00:03:33,096 And liver more is 45-minute drive, maybe 96 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:34,676 50 miles away from kecksburg. 97 00:03:34,700 --> 00:03:36,516 And the backstory of liver more, 98 00:03:36,540 --> 00:03:40,500 it's a historical... it's sort of a pre-colonial settlement that 99 00:03:40,620 --> 00:03:43,266 was flooded and effectively destroyed. 100 00:03:43,290 --> 00:03:45,346 The story goes that there are reports 101 00:03:45,370 --> 00:03:48,516 of ufos, of strange lights, of strange noises, 102 00:03:48,540 --> 00:03:51,386 of cryptids that seem to haunt the area. 103 00:03:51,410 --> 00:03:54,426 The parallels between skin walker ranch and the larger 104 00:03:54,450 --> 00:03:56,346 Chestnut Ridge centered around kecksburg 105 00:03:56,370 --> 00:03:58,226 are just too many to ignore. 106 00:03:58,250 --> 00:03:59,846 I think we have some ambitious plans for this. 107 00:03:59,870 --> 00:04:01,346 Yeah. 108 00:04:01,370 --> 00:04:03,016 Well, I feel like this is a topic where 109 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,516 and an area where certainly an ambitious effort is warranted. 110 00:04:05,540 --> 00:04:07,160 Yeah. Can't wait to see what you find. 111 00:04:07,290 --> 00:04:08,096 Absolutely. 112 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:09,516 Right on. 113 00:04:09,540 --> 00:04:10,476 We're excited to get out there. 114 00:04:10,500 --> 00:04:11,540 Good luck, guys. 115 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:19,074 Watch Online Movies and Series for FREE www.osdb.link/lm 116 00:04:21,540 --> 00:04:24,766 To kick off their investigation at Chestnut Ridge, 117 00:04:24,790 --> 00:04:28,450 Andy and Paul meet with Stan Gordon near the supposed crash 118 00:04:28,580 --> 00:04:32,330 site in kecksburg to learn more about the alleged ufo 119 00:04:32,450 --> 00:04:35,476 incident that occurred in 1965. 120 00:04:35,500 --> 00:04:36,886 Thanks for having us. 121 00:04:36,910 --> 00:04:40,516 Well, here we are in the shadow of the ufo itself. 122 00:04:40,540 --> 00:04:42,000 Yeah, that's a replica 123 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,426 of what witnesses said they saw that night back in 1965. 124 00:04:45,450 --> 00:04:47,266 I mean, this is the origin story 125 00:04:47,290 --> 00:04:49,226 of this whole region, right? 126 00:04:49,250 --> 00:04:50,886 I mean, this is where it all began. 127 00:04:50,910 --> 00:04:52,846 This was the case that people remember and talk 128 00:04:52,870 --> 00:04:54,726 about throughout this area in Pennsylvania 129 00:04:54,750 --> 00:04:56,426 - and even around the country. - Right. 130 00:04:56,450 --> 00:04:57,726 Can you tell me what happened? 131 00:04:57,750 --> 00:05:00,500 An object came in about 4:47 pm over 132 00:05:00,660 --> 00:05:02,096 the greater Pittsburgh area. 133 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,846 The police departments, the radio and TV stations, 134 00:05:04,870 --> 00:05:06,806 newspaper offices were jammed with phone calls 135 00:05:06,830 --> 00:05:09,096 from people seeing this brilliant, fiery object. 136 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,410 The witnesses who saw this thing that afternoon 137 00:05:11,540 --> 00:05:14,306 in this general area said it was moving very slowly, 138 00:05:14,330 --> 00:05:15,976 almost like it was controlled. 139 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,136 And the people saw it go down said it did not come 140 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:19,846 down at a high rate of speed. 141 00:05:19,870 --> 00:05:22,330 It came down almost like it was making a controlled landing. 142 00:05:22,450 --> 00:05:24,806 And who issued this official report? 143 00:05:24,830 --> 00:05:25,830 Was it local police? 144 00:05:25,950 --> 00:05:27,016 Was it state police? 145 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,370 Who was the last word on this? 146 00:05:32,500 --> 00:05:35,676 And it wasn't until 1987 when I was holding 147 00:05:35,700 --> 00:05:38,516 a very large public display at the local mall, 148 00:05:38,540 --> 00:05:41,556 and a man happened to walk by with his family. 149 00:05:41,580 --> 00:05:43,040 And they said, I was on the search 150 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:44,516 team that found the object. 151 00:05:44,540 --> 00:05:46,806 And what they found was not an aircraft. 152 00:05:46,830 --> 00:05:50,556 And he said it was a large metallic acorn-shaped object 153 00:05:50,580 --> 00:05:51,926 semi-buried in the ground. 154 00:05:51,950 --> 00:05:54,386 Although Stan and others have applied 155 00:05:54,410 --> 00:05:57,386 for government records surrounding what actually landed 156 00:05:57,410 --> 00:06:00,846 and was removed from kecksburg, nothing substantial 157 00:06:00,870 --> 00:06:02,676 has ever been released. 158 00:06:02,700 --> 00:06:05,516 I think we just start with the impact site. 159 00:06:05,540 --> 00:06:07,476 Can you take us to that location? 160 00:06:07,500 --> 00:06:09,136 I can take you down to the wooded area 161 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:10,370 where the object fell. 162 00:06:10,500 --> 00:06:12,136 And, there's two other fellows 163 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,636 that I know from the local area who were witnesses that night 164 00:06:14,660 --> 00:06:16,266 to different aspects of it. 165 00:06:16,290 --> 00:06:17,976 And they can meet us down there in the woods. 166 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:18,636 Absolutely. 167 00:06:18,660 --> 00:06:21,556 That sounds fantastic. 168 00:06:21,580 --> 00:06:24,306 With Stan in tow, Andy and Paul 169 00:06:24,330 --> 00:06:26,926 now make the short drive to the outskirts of town 170 00:06:26,950 --> 00:06:30,426 to the area suspected to be the ufo crash 171 00:06:30,450 --> 00:06:33,596 site, although the exact location of the landing 172 00:06:33,620 --> 00:06:35,676 remains a mystery. 173 00:06:35,700 --> 00:06:37,016 Hey, good morning, gentlemen. 174 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:38,676 Good morning. 175 00:06:38,700 --> 00:06:40,766 They're met by eyewitnesses bill Weaver and Ron 176 00:06:40,790 --> 00:06:44,096 struble to learn what the two men saw on the evening 177 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,016 of December 9, 1965. 178 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,500 Now, if I'm understanding correctly, then your research 179 00:06:50,620 --> 00:06:53,176 and the witnesses that you've spoken to place the objects 180 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:54,476 basically in this wash. 181 00:06:54,500 --> 00:06:55,346 Is that correct? 182 00:06:55,370 --> 00:06:56,726 Correct. 183 00:06:56,750 --> 00:06:58,590 And then the experience that you gentlemen had 184 00:06:58,700 --> 00:07:01,040 confirms that this is the right patch of woods, 185 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,016 but neither of you know firsthand where it landed? 186 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:05,926 I was not down here, no. 187 00:07:05,950 --> 00:07:08,136 I came after it landed. 188 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:09,137 It was a nice night. 189 00:07:09,161 --> 00:07:10,676 I had the top down. 190 00:07:10,700 --> 00:07:12,346 I was out for a ride. 191 00:07:12,370 --> 00:07:16,000 I seen there were some people standing alongside the road 192 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:17,516 there, and I stopped. 193 00:07:17,540 --> 00:07:19,540 They pointed back this way. 194 00:07:19,660 --> 00:07:24,676 The police and the military, they were all over the place. 195 00:07:24,700 --> 00:07:29,386 And there was guys out there in dark suits. 196 00:07:29,410 --> 00:07:32,176 They were the ones that seemed to be in charge. 197 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:33,676 There was a large truck. 198 00:07:33,700 --> 00:07:37,056 And out of that truck came a large box. 199 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:41,556 And they carried it down in the direction of where 200 00:07:41,580 --> 00:07:43,636 this thing had come down. 201 00:07:43,660 --> 00:07:45,676 So you were up on the road watching all this? 202 00:07:45,700 --> 00:07:46,700 Yes. 203 00:07:46,830 --> 00:07:48,266 You were not able to get down here? 204 00:07:48,290 --> 00:07:50,016 I was not down here, no. 205 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:53,926 While we were standing there watching what was going on, 206 00:07:53,950 --> 00:07:58,516 the state police and the military come up to us 207 00:07:58,540 --> 00:08:00,516 and they told us, if you don't move, 208 00:08:00,540 --> 00:08:02,410 we're going to confiscate your car. 209 00:08:02,540 --> 00:08:05,306 And I figured I'd better move. 210 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:07,830 So I did. 211 00:08:07,950 --> 00:08:09,556 Ron, what do you recall from that night? 212 00:08:09,580 --> 00:08:13,846 Well, we looked out our bedroom window in greensburg, 213 00:08:13,870 --> 00:08:16,886 and we'd seen the orange streak in the sky. 214 00:08:16,910 --> 00:08:19,136 Within 20 minutes, we were out here. 215 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:23,750 And the firemen was already up here with the, road control 216 00:08:23,870 --> 00:08:26,136 to make sure that nobody got down in here. 217 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,766 And I could see the military down in this hole. 218 00:08:29,790 --> 00:08:31,266 I mean, that's a very fast response. 219 00:08:31,290 --> 00:08:32,700 Right? 220 00:08:32,830 --> 00:08:35,056 I mean, is there a military base nearby? 221 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,306 I'm suspicious that this is national guard. 222 00:08:37,330 --> 00:08:38,846 They'd be the first ones called in. 223 00:08:38,870 --> 00:08:40,926 And then when I hear you talk about men in suits, 224 00:08:40,950 --> 00:08:42,596 the first thing that comes to my mind 225 00:08:42,620 --> 00:08:45,660 is some sort of administrative official, FBI. 226 00:08:45,790 --> 00:08:47,596 That would have come from further, though. 227 00:08:47,620 --> 00:08:49,460 That would have come from possibly Pittsburgh. 228 00:08:49,540 --> 00:08:52,556 How did such a team converge on this location 229 00:08:52,580 --> 00:08:54,140 - in such a short period of time? - Yes. 230 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,700 Certain elements of this story just aren't adding up. 231 00:08:57,830 --> 00:08:59,556 If it really was some sort of catastrophic disaster 232 00:08:59,580 --> 00:09:02,016 like an airplane crash or a meteor strike, 233 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:03,636 it would take a long time for those people 234 00:09:03,660 --> 00:09:04,976 to get to the location. 235 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:06,596 I mean, instead, what this sounds 236 00:09:06,620 --> 00:09:08,726 like is there was some sort of early warning system. 237 00:09:08,750 --> 00:09:10,886 Somebody was watching this long before it ever 238 00:09:10,910 --> 00:09:12,556 entered the atmosphere, and they were 239 00:09:12,580 --> 00:09:14,726 able to project approximately where it would land. 240 00:09:14,750 --> 00:09:16,516 That would give them enough of a head start 241 00:09:16,540 --> 00:09:18,226 to get military and government in motion 242 00:09:18,250 --> 00:09:21,886 to intercept the location and keep the public out. 243 00:09:21,910 --> 00:09:24,136 In the beginning, I was kind of a 244 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:25,726 I wasn't a believer. 245 00:09:25,750 --> 00:09:29,136 But then later in life, I joined the fire service. 246 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:33,886 And, during that period up until now, 247 00:09:33,910 --> 00:09:35,870 I got to know the guys really well. 248 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:40,096 And, they told me that they were here and some of them 249 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:44,040 drove the trucks, and they were here during the incident. 250 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,766 They went to their death bed stating that something 251 00:09:46,790 --> 00:09:49,750 did happen here in kecksburg. 252 00:09:55,370 --> 00:09:56,306 Yeah, I feel like we have an opportunity 253 00:09:56,330 --> 00:09:58,226 to do a survey of the area... yeah. 254 00:09:58,250 --> 00:09:59,976 With some of our equipment and see if we can't hone 255 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,226 in data-wise on something that might be anomalous in the area. 256 00:10:03,250 --> 00:10:05,870 Andy and Paul are in kecksburg, Pennsylvania, 257 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,806 with investigators Stan Gordon and two surviving eyewitnesses 258 00:10:09,830 --> 00:10:14,040 at the site of a possible ufo crash in 1965, 259 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,556 that official reports said was a meteor strike. 260 00:10:17,580 --> 00:10:19,250 They're now going to look for any 261 00:10:19,370 --> 00:10:23,676 evidence that could shed light on this 60-year-old mystery. 262 00:10:23,700 --> 00:10:26,080 We're just going to see if there's any sort of energy 263 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:27,926 signature or anything else we can find out 264 00:10:27,950 --> 00:10:30,516 that might point more specifically to where this thing 265 00:10:30,540 --> 00:10:32,096 might have come down. 266 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,176 Andy and Paul will be using their spectrum 267 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:38,870 analyzer and radiation meter to survey the alleged landing site. 268 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,016 They're looking for any abnormalities on the radio 269 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:46,976 spectrum, specifically in the privileged 1.4 to 1.8 270 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,806 gigahertz frequencies, reserved for earth-to-space and 271 00:10:50,830 --> 00:10:52,846 space-to-earth transmissions. 272 00:10:52,870 --> 00:10:55,306 All right, are you seeing anything on the broad spectrum? 273 00:10:55,330 --> 00:10:56,976 I'll tell you, it's very flat. 274 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:58,766 - Tiny little peaks. - Wow. 275 00:10:58,790 --> 00:10:59,636 That's a quiet spectrum for sure. 276 00:10:59,660 --> 00:11:01,226 Yeah. 277 00:11:01,250 --> 00:11:02,846 They're also testing for radiation levels 278 00:11:02,870 --> 00:11:05,500 above 20 microgram, which is double 279 00:11:05,620 --> 00:11:07,410 the average level in the us. 280 00:11:07,540 --> 00:11:10,846 That could indicate some residual effects of the crash. 281 00:11:10,870 --> 00:11:12,846 So far, radiation is also showing 282 00:11:12,870 --> 00:11:14,410 very normal readings here. 283 00:11:14,540 --> 00:11:17,016 Yeah, you can hear, Andy, nothing on the geiger. 284 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,016 It's all very consistent down here as well, man. 285 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:19,886 Yep. 286 00:11:19,910 --> 00:11:21,016 Anything above background? 287 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:22,596 No. 288 00:11:22,620 --> 00:11:24,500 You know, I wonder, it feels like we need to do 289 00:11:24,620 --> 00:11:27,016 some kind of broader survey. 290 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,556 There might be some evidence here that's in the landscape. 291 00:11:30,580 --> 00:11:34,306 We might be able to identify the exact location where this acorn 292 00:11:34,330 --> 00:11:37,676 landed, or potentially identify a location that 293 00:11:37,700 --> 00:11:39,306 explains why it landed here. 294 00:11:39,330 --> 00:11:41,926 Either it was here before and that's why it arrived, 295 00:11:41,950 --> 00:11:45,910 or something that was left behind after the impact. 296 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,846 Yeah, it'd be nice for us to know what exactly did happen. 297 00:11:49,870 --> 00:11:52,016 We'll see if we can't move the dial 298 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:53,870 and get some answers to those questions. 299 00:12:02,830 --> 00:12:04,726 Pete, I'm happy to have you here, man. 300 00:12:04,750 --> 00:12:07,846 We have got a mystery for you, for sure. 301 00:12:07,870 --> 00:12:10,266 Andy and Paul have called in skin walker veteran 302 00:12:10,290 --> 00:12:13,426 Pete Kelsey with his expertise and technology 303 00:12:13,450 --> 00:12:16,056 to conduct a thorough scan of the environment 304 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,676 surrounding the possible ufo landing 305 00:12:18,700 --> 00:12:20,476 in kecksburg, Pennsylvania. 306 00:12:20,500 --> 00:12:22,556 All I know is some kind of an impact site, right? 307 00:12:22,580 --> 00:12:24,176 Right. 308 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:25,636 From what we understand through third-hand information, 309 00:12:25,660 --> 00:12:26,676 the impact site might actually be in this 310 00:12:26,700 --> 00:12:28,476 wash area right behind us. 311 00:12:28,500 --> 00:12:31,476 It sounds like this thing came down in this area, 312 00:12:31,500 --> 00:12:32,500 right in here. 313 00:12:32,540 --> 00:12:34,056 We're not exactly sure where. 314 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,016 That's what we're hoping you can help us figure out. 315 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,056 Well, as you guys know, typically, the tools 316 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,846 that I bring have to do with physical evidence 317 00:12:41,870 --> 00:12:43,160 right on the ground. 318 00:12:43,290 --> 00:12:45,016 I brought all the usual suspects, 319 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,016 lidar and the slam scanner. 320 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,136 If one of you guys want to scan, I 321 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,176 can be watching the data coming in on the tablet in real time. 322 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,056 I'm happy to stomp around, sure. 323 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,766 Handheld lidar, also known as a slam scanner, 324 00:12:57,790 --> 00:13:00,476 uses laser light to map out an area. 325 00:13:00,500 --> 00:13:03,676 It measures the time it takes for the laser to bounce back 326 00:13:03,700 --> 00:13:06,226 after hitting an object and uses that 327 00:13:06,250 --> 00:13:08,636 collected data to create a detailed 328 00:13:08,660 --> 00:13:11,426 3D model of the environment. 329 00:13:11,450 --> 00:13:15,346 I just want to make sure we see data and then you're off. 330 00:13:15,370 --> 00:13:16,347 I'm good to go. 331 00:13:16,371 --> 00:13:17,976 Here we go. 332 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,056 Lidar technology also has the ability 333 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,346 to strip away layers of vegetation 334 00:13:23,370 --> 00:13:26,476 to visualize the topography of a site, 335 00:13:26,500 --> 00:13:28,676 which can reveal areas not easily 336 00:13:28,700 --> 00:13:30,176 detected by the naked eye. 337 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:31,886 We know we're looking for something 338 00:13:31,910 --> 00:13:33,516 that happened in the past. 339 00:13:33,540 --> 00:13:35,016 We have these dense woods. 340 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,676 And we need a piece of tech that allows us to scrape 341 00:13:37,700 --> 00:13:39,676 away the layers of the currents in order 342 00:13:39,700 --> 00:13:41,056 to get backwards in time. 343 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:42,676 And the slam scanner is exactly the kind of tool 344 00:13:42,700 --> 00:13:43,677 to make that happen. 345 00:13:43,701 --> 00:13:45,226 So that's top down. 346 00:13:45,250 --> 00:13:46,750 We've got a storm coming in. 347 00:13:46,870 --> 00:13:49,346 We do not have a lot of time. 348 00:13:49,370 --> 00:13:50,266 What do you think? 349 00:13:50,290 --> 00:13:51,386 Come back around? 350 00:13:51,410 --> 00:13:53,016 Yeah, I would do a loop. 351 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,516 Right where you are, I would do a loop. 352 00:13:55,540 --> 00:13:58,886 With high winds and an approaching storm, 353 00:13:58,910 --> 00:14:01,346 the team moves quickly to finish scanning 354 00:14:01,370 --> 00:14:03,620 the alleged landing site. 355 00:14:03,750 --> 00:14:06,516 Guys, are we good? 356 00:14:06,540 --> 00:14:07,596 Good. 357 00:14:07,620 --> 00:14:08,766 Well done, sir. 358 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:11,676 Their next plan of attack 359 00:14:11,700 --> 00:14:14,636 is to survey the area with drone lidar. 360 00:14:14,660 --> 00:14:19,016 However, with snow starting to fall and high winds, 361 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:22,096 Pete is unable to safely fly the drone, 362 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,636 so they'll regroup the next day to continue their investigation. 363 00:14:30,620 --> 00:14:34,926 The next morning, there is snowfall and persisting winds. 364 00:14:34,950 --> 00:14:37,136 But the team is determined to conduct 365 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:41,016 their drone lidar survey of the greater landing site area. 366 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:42,886 As if this flight didn't make me 367 00:14:42,910 --> 00:14:45,516 nervous enough, just because of the weather. 368 00:14:45,540 --> 00:14:47,226 Got it. 369 00:14:47,250 --> 00:14:50,926 This wind, I mean, there's a gust that's probably 25. 370 00:14:50,950 --> 00:14:52,846 But we got to try. 371 00:14:52,870 --> 00:14:54,176 We're here. 372 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:55,676 Maybe a little reckless, but curious. 373 00:14:55,700 --> 00:14:57,056 All right. 374 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:58,226 We need the data, so if you can get it up, 375 00:14:58,250 --> 00:14:59,726 Pete, that'd be greatly appreciated. 376 00:14:59,750 --> 00:15:01,516 Let's go. 377 00:15:01,540 --> 00:15:04,846 Pete Kelsey will use drone lidar technology 378 00:15:04,870 --> 00:15:09,056 to map the alleged ufo crash site with thousands of lasers 379 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,040 to create a topographical image of the area 380 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:16,176 and potentially uncover hidden information about exactly 381 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,370 where the ufo may have landed. 382 00:15:18,500 --> 00:15:19,500 Take off. 383 00:15:23,330 --> 00:15:26,726 The drone's flight path is pre-programmed in a grid 384 00:15:26,750 --> 00:15:31,176 pattern to cover the surrounding area near the purported crash. 385 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:32,676 It's really deceptive. 386 00:15:32,700 --> 00:15:34,346 If it's blowing 30 down here, it's 387 00:15:34,370 --> 00:15:37,226 probably blowing 45 up there. 388 00:15:37,250 --> 00:15:39,346 All hot, straight and normal so far. 389 00:15:39,370 --> 00:15:41,226 Clear, blue sky. 390 00:15:41,250 --> 00:15:43,846 We've had three good passes already, Paul. 391 00:15:43,870 --> 00:15:46,516 Yeah, so far, so good. 392 00:15:46,540 --> 00:15:49,516 Are you kidding me? 393 00:15:49,540 --> 00:15:50,676 Ok. 394 00:15:51,830 --> 00:15:52,676 What's going on, Pete? 395 00:15:52,700 --> 00:15:54,000 Is it pausing? 396 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:55,290 Son of a. 397 00:15:58,580 --> 00:16:01,346 Yeah, so I've got dead stick. 398 00:16:01,370 --> 00:16:02,976 It's not responding? 399 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:04,080 Yeah, dead stick. 400 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:05,226 I've got no control of it. 401 00:16:05,250 --> 00:16:07,056 But fortunately, it's hovering. 402 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,346 The drone has stopped right 403 00:16:09,370 --> 00:16:12,976 as it was about to survey the ravine, which is the supposed 404 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,556 location of the ufo landing. 405 00:16:15,580 --> 00:16:16,846 I can't do anything. 406 00:16:16,870 --> 00:16:18,500 Wait, so you can't even call it back? 407 00:16:18,620 --> 00:16:20,346 No, I'm stuck, at the moment. 408 00:16:30,660 --> 00:16:31,516 Son of a. 409 00:16:31,540 --> 00:16:32,886 It's not responding? 410 00:16:32,910 --> 00:16:33,806 Yeah, dead stick. 411 00:16:33,830 --> 00:16:35,500 I've got no control. 412 00:16:35,620 --> 00:16:38,726 Andy and Paul are with skin walker veteran Pete Kelsey, 413 00:16:38,750 --> 00:16:42,596 who's using his drone lidar to help them potentially uncover 414 00:16:42,620 --> 00:16:46,136 hidden information about exactly where the kecksburg 415 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,516 ufo may have landed in 1965. 416 00:16:49,540 --> 00:16:51,000 I - can't do anything. 417 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:52,660 Wait, so you can't even call it back? 418 00:16:52,830 --> 00:16:54,226 No, I'm stuck. 419 00:16:55,870 --> 00:16:59,226 However, Pete lost all control of his drone right 420 00:16:59,250 --> 00:17:01,870 when it flew over the suspected crash area. 421 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:03,846 Stranger still, all the diagnostics, 422 00:17:03,870 --> 00:17:09,806 avionics, batteries, everything is ok, but it's unresponsive. 423 00:17:09,830 --> 00:17:11,386 Unresponsive to you? 424 00:17:11,410 --> 00:17:13,096 Yeah, which is really concerning 425 00:17:13,120 --> 00:17:14,910 because I can't abort. 426 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,000 And it's also ignoring its pre-programmed route. 427 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:19,516 Yeah, that's right. 428 00:17:19,540 --> 00:17:21,516 It just froze. 429 00:17:23,700 --> 00:17:25,176 Ok. 430 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,056 What's it doing? 431 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,136 It's responding. 432 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:30,016 Forgive me, guys. 433 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,766 I'm going to... I've got to abort. 434 00:17:32,790 --> 00:17:34,556 Are you flying it home manually right now? 435 00:17:34,580 --> 00:17:36,596 Yeah, I've got out of the mission 436 00:17:36,620 --> 00:17:38,266 because I don't trust it. 437 00:17:38,290 --> 00:17:39,636 Have you seen that kind of phenomenon 438 00:17:39,660 --> 00:17:41,426 - happen with your drone before? - No. 439 00:17:41,450 --> 00:17:42,830 What about on skin walker ranch? 440 00:17:42,950 --> 00:17:44,676 Never. 441 00:17:44,700 --> 00:17:47,370 In order to preserve whatever data has been obtained, 442 00:17:47,500 --> 00:17:50,750 as well as for the safety of the drone and those around it, 443 00:17:50,870 --> 00:17:52,676 the flight has been cut short. 444 00:17:52,700 --> 00:17:54,516 Because it's been acting weird, 445 00:17:54,540 --> 00:17:57,346 let's be extra diligent on the landing here. 446 00:17:57,370 --> 00:17:58,870 Ok. 447 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,410 Because if it goes rogue, that's pretty dangerous. 448 00:18:05,910 --> 00:18:07,346 What would explain that, Pete? 449 00:18:07,370 --> 00:18:09,500 What could have happened there? 450 00:18:09,620 --> 00:18:11,386 I wish I knew, man. 451 00:18:11,410 --> 00:18:14,516 I mean, that... sorry, I'm just a little bit rattled 452 00:18:14,540 --> 00:18:15,886 because that's my livelihood. 453 00:18:15,910 --> 00:18:18,386 Yeah. 454 00:18:18,410 --> 00:18:20,136 And it just sort of did what it wanted to 455 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,176 rather than what I was telling it to. 456 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,676 The good news is it's been scanning the whole time. 457 00:18:24,700 --> 00:18:28,306 So the scanner ran even though it was just sitting out there, 458 00:18:28,330 --> 00:18:29,636 - so we should have data. - Ok. 459 00:18:29,660 --> 00:18:31,016 At least partial data. 460 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:32,516 - Yeah. - Ok. 461 00:18:32,540 --> 00:18:35,016 Data that we can compare against this valley 462 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:36,676 and against the actual crash site. 463 00:18:36,700 --> 00:18:38,636 Well, I would love to get eyes on the data 464 00:18:38,660 --> 00:18:40,846 that you were able to collect, see if that can't 465 00:18:40,870 --> 00:18:42,266 point us in the next direction. 466 00:18:42,290 --> 00:18:44,056 - I'm going to get busy on that. - Ok. 467 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:45,846 Thanks, Pete. 468 00:18:45,870 --> 00:18:48,386 While Pete processes the data from both lidar surveys 469 00:18:48,410 --> 00:18:51,386 of the kecksburg crash site, Andy and Paul 470 00:18:51,410 --> 00:18:53,500 will now look into another hot spot 471 00:18:53,620 --> 00:18:57,926 25 miles northeast along the Chestnut Ridge, the abandoned 472 00:18:57,950 --> 00:19:01,386 town of liver more, to investigate an even older 473 00:19:01,410 --> 00:19:04,726 mystery, which might shed light on whether the kecksburg 474 00:19:04,750 --> 00:19:09,426 crash was caused by some greater anomaly in the region. 475 00:19:09,450 --> 00:19:13,426 They're here to meet Ron Murphy, a historian and investigator 476 00:19:13,450 --> 00:19:15,000 of the liver more phenomena. 477 00:19:15,120 --> 00:19:16,540 All right, let's go check it out. 478 00:19:16,660 --> 00:19:18,250 Let's check it out. 479 00:19:18,370 --> 00:19:19,726 This is liver more. 480 00:19:19,750 --> 00:19:22,346 It used to be a fairly big town at one time, 481 00:19:22,370 --> 00:19:23,846 if you can believe it. 482 00:19:23,870 --> 00:19:25,516 This is right after the French and Indian war, ok? 483 00:19:25,540 --> 00:19:27,426 So this is kind of the people that were living 484 00:19:27,450 --> 00:19:28,726 out in the middle of nowhere. 485 00:19:28,750 --> 00:19:29,926 It's the frontier. 486 00:19:29,950 --> 00:19:31,516 This was definitely the frontier. 487 00:19:31,540 --> 00:19:35,096 There's a lot of things associated with, like, lights 488 00:19:35,120 --> 00:19:38,226 and things that are related to elemental type of beings 489 00:19:38,250 --> 00:19:40,016 that are seen around here. 490 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:43,976 One of the first times I've ever encountered one of these earth 491 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:45,386 lights was actually down here. 492 00:19:45,410 --> 00:19:46,540 You have personally? 493 00:19:46,700 --> 00:19:48,016 I have personally, yes. 494 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:49,346 "Earth lights" are the local term 495 00:19:49,370 --> 00:19:51,926 for ground level orb sightings, frequently 496 00:19:51,950 --> 00:19:53,426 encountered in the area. 497 00:19:53,450 --> 00:19:54,976 It was about 10 o'clock at night. 498 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,596 My buddy and I, we were coming to this very bridge. 499 00:19:57,620 --> 00:20:00,250 And we went out to the center of the bridge 500 00:20:00,370 --> 00:20:04,346 until we turned from the bridge and looked back here. 501 00:20:04,370 --> 00:20:08,200 And right at the opening, we see a light emanate. 502 00:20:08,330 --> 00:20:10,056 It stayed on for maybe a second or two 503 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:11,290 and then it just faded out. 504 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,676 Back in the late 1700s, there was said 505 00:20:16,700 --> 00:20:19,096 to be a witch that lived here, and then 506 00:20:19,120 --> 00:20:20,540 things started going wrong. 507 00:20:20,660 --> 00:20:23,660 Crops were failing, right, or babies are born deceased. 508 00:20:23,790 --> 00:20:25,306 So something was going on. 509 00:20:25,330 --> 00:20:26,806 You have to blame the witch, right? 510 00:20:26,830 --> 00:20:28,386 That's what everybody does. 511 00:20:28,410 --> 00:20:31,386 They grab her, put her onto a pole, and they burn her. 512 00:20:31,410 --> 00:20:34,846 And as the flames lap up around her, she screams out, 513 00:20:34,870 --> 00:20:38,846 I'm going to set a flood 100 years from this day to quench 514 00:20:38,870 --> 00:20:40,056 these flames about me. 515 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,556 And that was may 31, 1789. 516 00:20:43,580 --> 00:20:47,346 May 31, 1889, the johns town flood comes through here 517 00:20:47,370 --> 00:20:49,636 and destroys the town. 518 00:20:49,660 --> 00:20:51,620 I want to point out, there's multiple floods that 519 00:20:51,700 --> 00:20:54,556 came through to the point that the army corps of engineers 520 00:20:54,580 --> 00:20:56,676 decided, we are going to put a dam in 521 00:20:56,700 --> 00:20:59,410 and these places that lie on the outlying areas 522 00:20:59,540 --> 00:21:01,016 are just going to be flooded out. 523 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,700 So the town of liver more was destroyed by the flood 524 00:21:03,830 --> 00:21:05,330 and then permanently submerged 525 00:21:05,450 --> 00:21:07,250 - once the flood control project? - Yes, sir. 526 00:21:07,290 --> 00:21:08,410 Right here. 527 00:21:08,540 --> 00:21:10,056 There's a lot below the surface. 528 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:11,766 Yeah, it's wild, man. 529 00:21:11,790 --> 00:21:13,830 Now that I'm standing here and hearing the stories, 530 00:21:13,950 --> 00:21:15,846 hearing about the curses, hearing about just 531 00:21:15,870 --> 00:21:18,766 spooky and creepy history of this place, not to mention Ron's 532 00:21:18,790 --> 00:21:21,176 reaction to his own personal experiences here, 533 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,976 I really can't help but wonder if I'm standing on a skin walker 534 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,886 ranch that's buried underwater. 535 00:21:26,910 --> 00:21:28,830 I'm curious about where you had this encounter. 536 00:21:28,950 --> 00:21:30,806 Well, right here is where it was. 537 00:21:30,830 --> 00:21:32,596 - Started right here? - Yes, sir. 538 00:21:32,620 --> 00:21:33,596 Yes, sir. 539 00:21:33,620 --> 00:21:35,266 How do you describe the earth light? 540 00:21:35,290 --> 00:21:36,386 Just emanated, right? 541 00:21:36,410 --> 00:21:38,040 It just turned on. 542 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,346 And it just kind of expanded and flickered off into nothing. 543 00:21:41,370 --> 00:21:43,846 Often in conjunction with these lights that we see, 544 00:21:43,870 --> 00:21:48,016 preceding the lights appearing is the sound of wind chimes. 545 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:49,160 It's tonal. 546 00:21:49,290 --> 00:21:50,910 So it's usually about three tone. 547 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:52,676 I don't play music or anything like that. 548 00:21:52,700 --> 00:21:54,676 One is almost like an establishing tone. 549 00:21:54,700 --> 00:21:57,346 The other one is a bit higher to the ear. 550 00:21:57,370 --> 00:21:59,096 And the other one is just a little bit 551 00:21:59,120 --> 00:22:01,806 lower than the establishing tone, if that makes any sense. 552 00:22:01,830 --> 00:22:03,846 - So it precedes the phenomenon? - It precedes the phenomenon. 553 00:22:03,870 --> 00:22:05,080 Yes, sir. 554 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:06,176 And you've heard that? 555 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:06,976 I have. No, I've heard it. 556 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,636 Yeah, absolutely. 557 00:22:08,660 --> 00:22:10,176 Heard it, witnessed it, and everything like that, yes. 558 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:11,136 - On more than one occasion? - On more than one occasion. 559 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:12,226 Yes, sir. Yeah. 560 00:22:12,250 --> 00:22:13,846 And there's nothing out here. 561 00:22:13,870 --> 00:22:15,516 What would make any kind of sound out here, 562 00:22:15,540 --> 00:22:17,700 especially a metallic sound like a wind chime? 563 00:22:17,830 --> 00:22:20,306 I wonder if we can try to recreate something for him 564 00:22:20,330 --> 00:22:22,386 and see if we, you know, can hit on it. 565 00:22:22,410 --> 00:22:23,476 I agree. 566 00:22:23,500 --> 00:22:24,580 All right, let's go. 567 00:22:30,660 --> 00:22:31,886 Ron, this is our setup. 568 00:22:31,910 --> 00:22:33,386 - What do you think? - It's impressive. 569 00:22:33,410 --> 00:22:34,516 I don't know what any of this stuff means, 570 00:22:34,540 --> 00:22:36,176 but it's awesome-looking. Yeah. 571 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,806 Andy and Paul are on a bridge above the flooded town 572 00:22:38,830 --> 00:22:42,056 of liver more with local historian and investigator 573 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,580 Ron Murphy, who has witnessed orb phenomena referred 574 00:22:45,700 --> 00:22:48,040 to as earth lights, that have been preceded 575 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,556 by a sequence of sounds. 576 00:22:50,580 --> 00:22:53,370 So Andy and I have worked with tones many times, 577 00:22:53,500 --> 00:22:55,386 usually using them to try to trigger 578 00:22:55,410 --> 00:22:57,040 something in the environment. 579 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,846 My question is, is this going to have some kind of new effect 580 00:22:59,870 --> 00:23:01,226 on this environment? 581 00:23:01,250 --> 00:23:03,306 Was that a trigger that Ron experienced? 582 00:23:03,330 --> 00:23:05,676 Was it sort of a harbinger of that event? 583 00:23:05,700 --> 00:23:08,266 I mean, we just have no idea how this is going to play out. 584 00:23:08,290 --> 00:23:10,726 So our ufodap's over here, stacked 585 00:23:10,750 --> 00:23:12,096 up one on top of the other. 586 00:23:12,120 --> 00:23:14,426 It is actually an extra set of eyes in the sky. 587 00:23:14,450 --> 00:23:16,306 And those are the green dots that you see out 588 00:23:16,330 --> 00:23:17,806 - there flashing on the bridge. - Nice. 589 00:23:17,830 --> 00:23:19,676 We also have a directional antenna. 590 00:23:19,700 --> 00:23:21,176 Any radio signals, any frequencies 591 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,676 that we see that may be coming anywhere in the area, 592 00:23:23,700 --> 00:23:26,676 we can actually hone in and zoom in on it with that antenna. 593 00:23:26,700 --> 00:23:29,016 Meanwhile, we have our moonraker antenna here, 594 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,520 which is connected to a spectrum analyzer, which is picking up 595 00:23:31,620 --> 00:23:33,306 radio signals from all around. 596 00:23:33,330 --> 00:23:35,846 This gives us the ability to see if we're catching anything 597 00:23:35,870 --> 00:23:38,596 in the big net, and then, as Andy said, home in on it, 598 00:23:38,620 --> 00:23:40,556 pinpoint maybe what direction it's coming from 599 00:23:40,580 --> 00:23:42,016 and figure out what the source is. 600 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:43,226 Very impressive. 601 00:23:43,250 --> 00:23:44,266 I'm kind of excited to start seeing 602 00:23:44,290 --> 00:23:45,596 if we can't poke around a bit. 603 00:23:45,620 --> 00:23:48,266 Yeah, let's, play some tones, I think. 604 00:23:48,290 --> 00:23:50,000 Earlier this season, the team 605 00:23:50,120 --> 00:23:52,660 played back an audio tone, replicating the sound 606 00:23:52,790 --> 00:23:56,516 - of the infamous taos hum... - Look at this. - Whoa. 607 00:23:56,540 --> 00:23:58,136 And seemed to elicit a response 608 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,056 on their spectrum analyzer in the privileged zone. 609 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:02,976 Look at how it's changing. 610 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:04,346 Wow. 611 00:24:04,370 --> 00:24:06,676 Now, using their tone generator, 612 00:24:06,700 --> 00:24:10,556 Andy and Paul will mimic the three-tone sound Ron reported 613 00:24:10,580 --> 00:24:12,886 hearing before seeing an orb to see 614 00:24:12,910 --> 00:24:16,676 if they can trigger some sort of response from the environment. 615 00:24:16,700 --> 00:24:19,830 And, Ron, you mentioned that you heard a series of tones, 616 00:24:19,950 --> 00:24:20,846 right? 617 00:24:20,870 --> 00:24:21,516 Yeah. 618 00:24:21,540 --> 00:24:23,346 And the tones preceded 619 00:24:23,370 --> 00:24:26,700 preceded the arrival of the orbs. 620 00:24:26,830 --> 00:24:28,750 I'm going to manually go through the tones. 621 00:24:28,870 --> 00:24:29,846 Ok. 622 00:24:29,870 --> 00:24:31,226 I want you to stop me when you feel 623 00:24:31,250 --> 00:24:32,886 like we're in the right region. 624 00:24:32,910 --> 00:24:33,976 All right. 625 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,846 And I'm calling on you 626 00:24:35,870 --> 00:24:36,806 to remember a sound, which is often times difficult, but 627 00:24:36,830 --> 00:24:37,976 - ok. - All right, here we go. 628 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:39,000 Ok. 629 00:24:44,410 --> 00:24:45,410 Right about there. 630 00:24:47,450 --> 00:24:49,766 Right about there. 631 00:24:49,790 --> 00:24:52,676 That's very close to the initial ding that we heard 632 00:24:52,700 --> 00:24:54,556 and that what sounded like the wind chimes. 633 00:24:54,580 --> 00:24:56,676 That right there is about... and then it went higher, 634 00:24:56,700 --> 00:24:59,306 and then it went lower than that initial 210. 635 00:24:59,330 --> 00:25:02,096 Any way to play them in consecutively? 636 00:25:02,120 --> 00:25:03,750 Let's give it a whirl. 637 00:25:03,870 --> 00:25:05,976 Meanwhile, they will monitor the spectrum analyzer 638 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,846 for any spikes in the privileged 1.4 to 1.8 639 00:25:09,870 --> 00:25:12,700 gigahertz radio frequency zone reserved 640 00:25:12,870 --> 00:25:16,516 for earth-to-space and space-to-earth transmissions. 641 00:25:16,540 --> 00:25:17,806 All right. 642 00:25:17,830 --> 00:25:20,016 But this is our baseline right now. 643 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,386 Steady. 644 00:25:21,410 --> 00:25:23,226 Quiet. 645 00:25:31,580 --> 00:25:32,476 Pretty close to that? 646 00:25:32,500 --> 00:25:33,306 Pretty close to it. 647 00:25:33,330 --> 00:25:34,426 Pretty close. 648 00:25:34,450 --> 00:25:35,500 Holy smokes! 649 00:25:35,620 --> 00:25:36,676 - Look at that. - Wow. 650 00:25:36,700 --> 00:25:38,266 Look at how strong. 651 00:25:38,290 --> 00:25:41,886 This activity that's happening here, just under 1.6. 652 00:25:41,910 --> 00:25:44,676 1.57. 653 00:25:44,700 --> 00:25:49,386 Andy will now listen in on the 1.57 gigahertz signal 654 00:25:49,410 --> 00:25:51,500 they've seemingly triggered to see what 655 00:25:51,620 --> 00:25:53,176 communication is occurring. 656 00:25:55,250 --> 00:25:57,676 These sound like wind chimes, man. 657 00:25:57,700 --> 00:25:58,676 Kind of do. 658 00:25:58,700 --> 00:25:59,766 It sounds very tonal. 659 00:26:09,910 --> 00:26:11,596 It's just freaking me out. 660 00:26:11,620 --> 00:26:13,846 The bass tone, the higher tone, the lower tone, 661 00:26:13,870 --> 00:26:15,346 that's exactly what I heard. 662 00:26:15,370 --> 00:26:16,846 Exactly what I heard. 663 00:26:16,870 --> 00:26:19,176 There's so many layers of strangeness. 664 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:20,846 The first we heard of these three tones 665 00:26:20,870 --> 00:26:24,410 was that Ron heard them preceding this other series 666 00:26:24,540 --> 00:26:26,096 of events, these lights. 667 00:26:26,120 --> 00:26:27,886 So we tried to match those tones on the tone generator. 668 00:26:27,910 --> 00:26:29,136 We think we got pretty close. 669 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:30,976 Ron said, yeah, that sounds like it. 670 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:35,176 Now we're getting some strange signals and radio frequency 671 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:36,726 that shouldn't be there. 672 00:26:36,750 --> 00:26:38,516 They sound like the tones, too. 673 00:26:38,540 --> 00:26:40,136 Is one triggering the other? 674 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:41,580 Is there some kind of relationship 675 00:26:41,700 --> 00:26:43,476 here that we just don't understand? 676 00:26:43,500 --> 00:26:46,160 This is really getting interesting. 677 00:26:46,290 --> 00:26:48,250 So you know what I'd love to do, 678 00:26:48,370 --> 00:26:51,410 Paul, is I'd love to do a sweep of 360 degrees... yup. 679 00:26:51,540 --> 00:26:52,846 In our 1.6 gigahertz range. 680 00:26:52,870 --> 00:26:54,160 Ok. 681 00:26:54,290 --> 00:26:55,976 After finding strange radio frequencies 682 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,016 in the privileged zone, the team will now use their log 683 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,806 periodic antenna in an attempt to zero 684 00:27:01,830 --> 00:27:04,160 in on the source of the signal they just triggered 685 00:27:04,290 --> 00:27:06,346 using the tone generator. 686 00:27:06,370 --> 00:27:10,676 By rotating the log periodic antenna 360 degrees, 687 00:27:10,700 --> 00:27:13,886 it can isolate and hone in on the exact direction 688 00:27:13,910 --> 00:27:16,176 a radio signal is coming from. 689 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,016 So you can see that there's some activity here 690 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:20,846 at about 1.6. 691 00:27:20,870 --> 00:27:23,580 If we see a spike, when he starts to move this, 692 00:27:23,700 --> 00:27:24,596 then that's interesting. 693 00:27:24,620 --> 00:27:25,516 All right. 694 00:27:25,540 --> 00:27:26,846 All right, here we go. 695 00:27:26,870 --> 00:27:28,120 I'm going to go clockwise. 696 00:27:33,540 --> 00:27:34,886 Stop, Paul. Stop, Paul. 697 00:27:34,910 --> 00:27:35,596 Stop. 698 00:27:35,620 --> 00:27:37,580 Go back. 699 00:27:37,700 --> 00:27:39,750 And cross through that same zone again. 700 00:27:43,540 --> 00:27:44,676 - There it is. - That's it. 701 00:27:44,700 --> 00:27:45,976 Wow. Yeah. 702 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:46,806 See it all come to life? 703 00:27:46,830 --> 00:27:48,346 I do, I do. 704 00:27:48,370 --> 00:27:49,636 You can see all this activity come to life over here 705 00:27:49,660 --> 00:27:51,266 as Paul crosses through this zone. 706 00:27:51,290 --> 00:27:54,306 So two massive questions come to mind for me right now. 707 00:27:54,330 --> 00:27:56,790 What is causing radio energy in this direction 708 00:27:56,910 --> 00:27:57,596 right. 709 00:27:57,620 --> 00:27:59,016 Question number one? 710 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:00,760 Question number two, why is it transmitting 711 00:28:00,870 --> 00:28:02,266 energy at 1.6 gigahertz? 712 00:28:02,290 --> 00:28:04,016 Right. 713 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:05,516 This is a block of frequency that's reserved. 714 00:28:05,540 --> 00:28:07,306 It's all earth-to-space, space-to-earth communications. 715 00:28:07,330 --> 00:28:08,700 Ok. 716 00:28:08,830 --> 00:28:11,556 This is most definitely the heart of the energy. 717 00:28:11,580 --> 00:28:12,910 What's in this direction, Ron? 718 00:28:17,500 --> 00:28:18,540 - No way. - Yeah. 719 00:28:18,660 --> 00:28:19,726 Kecksburg is this direction. 720 00:28:19,750 --> 00:28:20,726 Absolutely. 721 00:28:20,750 --> 00:28:22,516 Yes, yes, yes. 722 00:28:22,540 --> 00:28:24,250 That is wild, man. 723 00:28:24,370 --> 00:28:27,886 This mystery signal is coming from the direction 724 00:28:27,910 --> 00:28:30,886 of the mystery event in 1965. 725 00:28:30,910 --> 00:28:32,846 So we've got a signal coming from kecksburg 726 00:28:32,870 --> 00:28:36,346 that seems to literally end at this bridge. 727 00:28:36,370 --> 00:28:39,176 I mean, I thought kecksburg was interesting, right? 728 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,886 But now that we've been here as well, I mean, 729 00:28:41,910 --> 00:28:44,040 there is something happening here in Chestnut Ridge. 730 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,636 Andy and Paul return to kecksburg 731 00:28:54,660 --> 00:28:57,176 to learn Pete Kelsey's hand held and drone 732 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,926 lidar results from the possible ufo crash site. 733 00:28:59,950 --> 00:29:02,886 Pete, I'm really excited to see these results. 734 00:29:02,910 --> 00:29:04,926 I mean, it's taken quite a bit of work and adventure 735 00:29:04,950 --> 00:29:06,556 to get to this point. 736 00:29:06,580 --> 00:29:08,346 Yeah, I mean, we've really been fighting the elements 737 00:29:08,370 --> 00:29:10,016 every step of the way here. 738 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,160 They're joined by Chestnut Ridge investigator Stan 739 00:29:12,290 --> 00:29:15,056 Gordon and retired kecksburg fire chief 740 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,370 and ufo eyewitness Ron struble. 741 00:29:18,500 --> 00:29:21,096 Well, you guys saw what happened with the drone lidar. 742 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:22,016 Absolutely. 743 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,200 Yeah, so I've got dead stick. 744 00:29:23,290 --> 00:29:24,886 It's not responding? 745 00:29:24,910 --> 00:29:25,976 I've got no control. 746 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,226 I can't do anything. 747 00:29:27,250 --> 00:29:28,676 Wait, so you can't even call it back? 748 00:29:28,700 --> 00:29:30,176 No, I'm stuck. 749 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,096 This gives you a good look at the extent of the data 750 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:37,096 that I was able to capture from the air before it stopped. 751 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,226 This is where it stopped, this farthest point away. 752 00:29:40,250 --> 00:29:42,846 Which is also in the same vicinity as where 753 00:29:42,870 --> 00:29:45,846 you reported the actual craft itself crashing 754 00:29:45,870 --> 00:29:47,676 or landing in that valley. 755 00:29:47,700 --> 00:29:49,346 The failure happened before it 756 00:29:49,370 --> 00:29:51,016 even got over the ravine. 757 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,056 It's still just making its way across that big, open field, 758 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,870 getting to the ravine, and then 759 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,136 something pulled that drone off course. 760 00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:59,726 Something confused that drone before it 761 00:29:59,750 --> 00:30:02,176 could even get to the target spot where we were looking. 762 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:03,426 Maybe, yeah. 763 00:30:03,450 --> 00:30:05,176 Who knows? 764 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,830 We also did a ground-based lidar, 765 00:30:07,950 --> 00:30:10,516 so we should have more data from the ravine itself that 766 00:30:10,540 --> 00:30:12,056 we collected on the ground. 767 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,410 So that looks like this. 768 00:30:18,580 --> 00:30:20,226 Look at this right here. 769 00:30:20,250 --> 00:30:23,676 I cut my teeth in civil engineering and land surveying. 770 00:30:23,700 --> 00:30:25,516 That's manmade earthwork. 771 00:30:25,540 --> 00:30:31,386 Because it's level against this otherwise very steep slope. 772 00:30:31,410 --> 00:30:34,556 Straight lines, right angles, those kind of things 773 00:30:34,580 --> 00:30:36,306 do not occur in nature, right? 774 00:30:36,330 --> 00:30:39,176 And then when you rotate the view, like I've done here, 775 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,540 and you see it has a level bottom? 776 00:30:41,660 --> 00:30:44,676 I mean, this is right where we were walking. 777 00:30:44,700 --> 00:30:46,306 Right where you pointed us toward 778 00:30:46,330 --> 00:30:50,726 is this evidence, 60 years later, of that impact. 779 00:30:50,750 --> 00:30:52,226 We looked at it with our own eyes. 780 00:30:52,250 --> 00:30:54,016 There's no level ground down there. 781 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,540 So that's a remnant of something that's no longer visible. 782 00:30:57,660 --> 00:30:59,096 It was something I was going to ask. 783 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:00,910 Was there heavy equipment in here 784 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,266 that would have had to been 785 00:31:02,290 --> 00:31:04,726 whatever it was, was it carted out? 786 00:31:04,750 --> 00:31:06,160 Yes? 787 00:31:06,330 --> 00:31:08,636 There were two military flatbed tractor trailers 788 00:31:08,660 --> 00:31:10,266 on the scene that night. 789 00:31:10,290 --> 00:31:12,056 What I understand is this, you could 790 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,426 not take that tractor trailer right down to the impact site. 791 00:31:15,450 --> 00:31:17,176 They had to winch it over. 792 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,176 A crane would need a level spot. 793 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,516 Yes. 794 00:31:21,540 --> 00:31:23,580 When you compare Pete's lidar data 795 00:31:23,700 --> 00:31:25,976 about what he is seeing in this ravine, 796 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,080 and you contrast it with what Stan has reported, 797 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,886 his research has shown about what happened here in kecksburg, 798 00:31:30,910 --> 00:31:33,056 you really start to see corroborating evidence that 799 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:34,676 speaks to the fact that there really 800 00:31:34,700 --> 00:31:36,886 may have been something that happened at a specific point 801 00:31:36,910 --> 00:31:38,346 in this ravine. 802 00:31:38,370 --> 00:31:40,096 This is really just a few feet away from where 803 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:41,516 Paul and I took baselines. 804 00:31:41,540 --> 00:31:43,346 This is worth going back and researching, 805 00:31:43,370 --> 00:31:45,766 whether or not there is actually a difference between the rest 806 00:31:45,790 --> 00:31:48,766 of the ravine and this specific point that Pete has identified. 807 00:31:48,790 --> 00:31:50,886 How does this make you guys feel? 808 00:31:50,910 --> 00:31:52,636 It gives us a little bit of hope 809 00:31:52,660 --> 00:31:55,886 that maybe someday we'll know what happened in kecksburg. 810 00:31:55,910 --> 00:31:57,660 There were so many people involved. 811 00:31:57,790 --> 00:32:01,226 And so many people Ron knew, people I talked to, many of them 812 00:32:01,250 --> 00:32:03,226 went to their grave not knowing the truth. 813 00:32:03,250 --> 00:32:05,016 They all stuck by their story. 814 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:06,516 Many of them took a lot of ridicule. 815 00:32:06,540 --> 00:32:11,306 And, they deserved to know the truth. 816 00:32:11,330 --> 00:32:14,516 Armed with new data detailing a potential manmade 817 00:32:14,540 --> 00:32:18,136 feature only 20 feet away from where the team originally 818 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:22,386 investigated the rumored location of the 1965 ufo 819 00:32:22,410 --> 00:32:25,386 landing, Andy, Paul, and Pete decide 820 00:32:25,410 --> 00:32:29,450 to go back to replicate their experiments in the exact spot. 821 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,556 This is it right here. 822 00:32:33,580 --> 00:32:35,306 Up there, yeah. 823 00:32:35,330 --> 00:32:38,886 You see how it feels like a pad and sort of leveled out? 824 00:32:38,910 --> 00:32:42,636 And then it sort of ends abruptly right there. 825 00:32:42,660 --> 00:32:45,846 On their initial visit to the alleged location 826 00:32:45,870 --> 00:32:49,016 of the ufo crash, less than 20 feet away, 827 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,926 there was zero activity on the radio spectrum. 828 00:32:51,950 --> 00:32:54,516 I'll tell you, it's very flat. 829 00:32:54,540 --> 00:32:56,226 Tiny little peaks. 830 00:32:56,250 --> 00:32:57,556 Wow. It's a quiet spectrum for sure. 831 00:32:57,580 --> 00:32:59,266 Yeah. 832 00:32:59,290 --> 00:33:01,176 Now they'll check the radio spectrum, at the newly 833 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,500 discovered area of interest. 834 00:33:03,620 --> 00:33:05,080 I'll pop the rf scanner. 835 00:33:08,950 --> 00:33:11,596 There's a peak at 1.638. 836 00:33:11,620 --> 00:33:12,676 Are they significant peaks? 837 00:33:12,700 --> 00:33:13,766 Yeah, look at that. 838 00:33:13,790 --> 00:33:15,766 Yeah. 839 00:33:15,790 --> 00:33:17,516 1.74. 840 00:33:17,540 --> 00:33:20,016 That's not the same spectrum that we saw when 841 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:21,160 we were here the first time. 842 00:33:21,250 --> 00:33:22,346 Right. 843 00:33:22,370 --> 00:33:24,096 So, yeah, we've moved, what, 20 feet. 844 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:25,516 Totally different spectrum. 845 00:33:25,540 --> 00:33:27,016 That's strange. 846 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:28,556 The one difference from here to there 847 00:33:28,580 --> 00:33:31,346 is this is what it was indicated on the lidar 848 00:33:31,370 --> 00:33:34,676 as something unusual that maybe suggests that this 849 00:33:34,700 --> 00:33:36,176 is the actual impact site. 850 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:37,926 But that would not explain how it could have such 851 00:33:37,950 --> 00:33:39,386 a different radio signature 852 00:33:39,410 --> 00:33:44,176 with nothing in between here and there. 853 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,226 Unless it's hyper-localized, unless it exists here 854 00:33:46,250 --> 00:33:47,976 and doesn't exist over there, we could 855 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,266 take the spectrum analyzer right over 856 00:33:49,290 --> 00:33:50,806 - there and find out right now. - Yeah, that 857 00:33:50,830 --> 00:33:52,226 I mean, how could that be 858 00:33:52,250 --> 00:33:54,790 how could the signal differ across... it shouldn't. 859 00:33:54,830 --> 00:33:55,767 Such a short distance? 860 00:33:55,791 --> 00:33:57,476 We can test it. 861 00:33:57,500 --> 00:33:58,726 We can take it right over there and see if that same signal 862 00:33:58,750 --> 00:33:59,636 is present right now. 863 00:33:59,660 --> 00:34:00,636 Ok. 864 00:34:00,660 --> 00:34:01,660 Let's just walk it up. 865 00:34:19,830 --> 00:34:21,016 Look. 866 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,676 It actually did completely change. 867 00:34:22,700 --> 00:34:23,516 Wow! 868 00:34:23,540 --> 00:34:24,806 Pete, look at this. 869 00:34:24,830 --> 00:34:28,176 It actually did completely change. 870 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:29,426 It's totally different. 871 00:34:29,450 --> 00:34:30,596 It's dead. 872 00:34:30,620 --> 00:34:32,056 It's a completely... completely flat. 873 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:33,556 Different signal. 874 00:34:33,580 --> 00:34:34,976 Look at that. 875 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,636 We've gone, what, 20 feet? 876 00:34:36,660 --> 00:34:38,516 That's unbelievable. 877 00:34:38,540 --> 00:34:43,386 That's, like, not within the realm of possible, right? 878 00:34:43,410 --> 00:34:44,176 No, no. 879 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:45,676 That makes... i'm. 880 00:34:46,700 --> 00:34:48,556 I'm stunned. 881 00:34:48,580 --> 00:34:49,636 I want my mommy. 882 00:34:52,370 --> 00:34:54,056 This doesn't make any sense. 883 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,346 How is there a radio signal in one place 884 00:34:56,370 --> 00:34:58,226 that doesn't exist just a few feet away? 885 00:34:58,250 --> 00:35:00,016 That's not how radio energy works. 886 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,516 That's not how frequencies work. 887 00:35:01,540 --> 00:35:03,346 The only reason that we were brought here 888 00:35:03,370 --> 00:35:05,016 was because of Pete's lidar data. 889 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,676 And now that we're here, we're getting even more evidence that 890 00:35:07,700 --> 00:35:09,426 suggests that there really was something 891 00:35:09,450 --> 00:35:11,226 strange that happened on this spot, 892 00:35:11,250 --> 00:35:13,250 in this ravine in kecksburg. 893 00:35:13,370 --> 00:35:16,676 We might have actually found the real crash site. 894 00:35:16,700 --> 00:35:21,926 That might explain why we have so many localized anomalous 895 00:35:21,950 --> 00:35:24,016 readings right here that we don't see 896 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,556 anywhere else in this valley. 897 00:35:25,580 --> 00:35:27,676 Thanks, Pete, for pointing that out in the lidar. 898 00:35:27,700 --> 00:35:29,596 We would have never found this otherwise. 899 00:35:29,620 --> 00:35:30,726 Yeah. 900 00:35:30,750 --> 00:35:32,386 Yeah, this is a great find. 901 00:35:32,410 --> 00:35:33,676 Amazing. 902 00:35:33,700 --> 00:35:34,596 Yeah, we've got to share this with Travis and Erik. 903 00:35:34,620 --> 00:35:35,620 Absolutely. 904 00:35:42,370 --> 00:35:43,726 Well, guys, welcome back to the ranch. 905 00:35:43,750 --> 00:35:44,926 I want to hear about your findings at Chestnut Ridge. 906 00:35:44,950 --> 00:35:46,346 I think it exceeded our expectations. 907 00:35:46,370 --> 00:35:47,540 Mhm. 908 00:35:47,660 --> 00:35:49,306 But it left so many more questions than answers. 909 00:35:49,330 --> 00:35:50,976 If you recall, we went out there first 910 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:55,516 to dig into what happened in kecksburg in 1965, the reported 911 00:35:55,540 --> 00:35:58,886 landing or crashing of some sort of acorn-shaped object 912 00:35:58,910 --> 00:36:00,016 from the sky. 913 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,540 So we called in Pete Kelsey. 914 00:36:01,660 --> 00:36:04,556 And Pete was able to run aerial lidar 915 00:36:04,580 --> 00:36:07,516 and walk a ground-based slam scanner along with us 916 00:36:07,540 --> 00:36:10,176 so that we could really saturate the area with data. 917 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,016 And then when we did get Pete's results... yeah. 918 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,636 They were really quite telling. 919 00:36:14,660 --> 00:36:16,676 So Pete's actually waiting online to give us a walkthrough 920 00:36:16,700 --> 00:36:17,846 of what he discovered. 921 00:36:17,870 --> 00:36:20,386 Pete, you got me, man? 922 00:36:20,410 --> 00:36:22,016 Hey, Andy. How are you? 923 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:23,176 Hey, good to see you, sir. 924 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:24,137 Hey, Pete. 925 00:36:24,161 --> 00:36:25,886 Hey, everybody's there. 926 00:36:25,910 --> 00:36:28,016 Do you have the lidar results from the slam scanner nearby? 927 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,176 Yeah. 928 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,636 So this is the slam scanner data. 929 00:36:31,660 --> 00:36:36,176 If I rotate past horizontal, this right here, I mean, 930 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,806 right away was like, ok, that's unusual. 931 00:36:39,830 --> 00:36:44,886 I mean, literally a rectangle of graded level ground. 932 00:36:44,910 --> 00:36:46,306 Ok, yeah, I see. 933 00:36:46,330 --> 00:36:48,426 Why is it level? 934 00:36:48,450 --> 00:36:51,176 It just suggests made earthworks. 935 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:52,330 Yeah. 936 00:36:52,450 --> 00:36:57,136 But, this looks like there's some sort of excavation 937 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:58,726 that took place in that spot. 938 00:36:58,750 --> 00:37:00,386 And for there to have been so many 939 00:37:00,410 --> 00:37:02,346 witnesses that led you to that spot, 940 00:37:02,370 --> 00:37:05,426 it really is very, suspect. 941 00:37:05,450 --> 00:37:06,660 Yeah. 942 00:37:06,790 --> 00:37:09,226 One other thing I'd like to show you. 943 00:37:09,250 --> 00:37:14,136 So this has me shaking my head, my friends, again, 944 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,766 because we've got data underground. 945 00:37:17,790 --> 00:37:18,516 See this? 946 00:37:18,540 --> 00:37:19,806 There it is. 947 00:37:19,830 --> 00:37:22,096 That's clearly below ground right there. 948 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:23,596 How far underground is that? 949 00:37:23,620 --> 00:37:25,676 At 100 feet. 950 00:37:25,700 --> 00:37:26,886 It's impossible. 951 00:37:26,910 --> 00:37:29,000 I mean, here we go again, right? 952 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,346 Lasers can't see through solid ground. 953 00:37:32,370 --> 00:37:33,806 Now, see, that tells us 954 00:37:33,830 --> 00:37:37,250 that the computer system in the lidar 955 00:37:37,370 --> 00:37:40,556 believes that those particular points 956 00:37:40,580 --> 00:37:45,870 took longer to get back to the receiver than it actually did. 957 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:50,766 Yeah, that data identifies a very unique point in space 958 00:37:50,790 --> 00:37:54,330 and time during the scan that is exceptional to, 959 00:37:54,500 --> 00:37:56,016 you know, versus everything else. 960 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,056 You know, where have we seen this before? 961 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:02,176 We've seen it at the highway 350 bridge at Miller ranch. 962 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:03,596 Triangle. 963 00:38:03,620 --> 00:38:04,886 We've seen it at skin walker ranch. 964 00:38:04,910 --> 00:38:05,806 Mhm. 965 00:38:05,830 --> 00:38:07,306 Yeah, that's right. 966 00:38:07,330 --> 00:38:09,556 Maybe we're on to something that nobody's 967 00:38:09,580 --> 00:38:11,516 ever really figured out before. 968 00:38:11,540 --> 00:38:13,410 To my knowledge, this is probably 969 00:38:13,540 --> 00:38:15,806 the first time anybody's ever done a lidar measurement there. 970 00:38:15,830 --> 00:38:19,386 Any place that I get lidar returns underground, 971 00:38:19,410 --> 00:38:20,846 that's interesting. 972 00:38:20,870 --> 00:38:21,870 Thanks, Pete. 973 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,226 Thank you, guys. 974 00:38:23,250 --> 00:38:24,730 It made us ask ourselves the question 975 00:38:24,790 --> 00:38:27,476 in that specific depression, that site 976 00:38:27,500 --> 00:38:29,176 that Pete's lidar found, what else 977 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:30,886 could we measure in that site? 978 00:38:30,910 --> 00:38:34,266 So we went back down there and we took an rf spectrum analyzer. 979 00:38:34,290 --> 00:38:36,176 We are literally standing in the indented site 980 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,266 that Pete identified in his data. 981 00:38:38,290 --> 00:38:41,016 There was a peak at 1.638. 982 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:42,660 - Look at that. - Yeah. 983 00:38:42,790 --> 00:38:44,556 That's not the same spectrum that we saw when 984 00:38:44,580 --> 00:38:46,056 - we were here the first time. - Right. 985 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:47,346 Totally different spectrum. 986 00:38:47,370 --> 00:38:48,926 That's strange. 987 00:38:48,950 --> 00:38:51,110 And this is the spectrum analyzer, readings that we're 988 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,556 getting, which are completely different than the baseline 989 00:38:53,580 --> 00:38:56,000 readings we got in the ravine earlier 990 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:57,676 when we first arrived to kecksburg. 991 00:38:57,700 --> 00:38:59,426 - Tiny little peaks. - Wow. 992 00:38:59,450 --> 00:39:01,266 - It's a quiet spectrum for sure. - Yeah. 993 00:39:01,290 --> 00:39:03,516 Where was the ravine in relation to this point? 994 00:39:03,540 --> 00:39:05,346 We're going to show you here. 995 00:39:05,370 --> 00:39:07,136 We can test it. 996 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:08,346 We can take it right over there and see if that same signal 997 00:39:08,370 --> 00:39:09,176 is present right now. 998 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:10,200 Ok. 999 00:39:10,290 --> 00:39:11,290 Let's just walk it up. 1000 00:39:15,790 --> 00:39:18,726 Pete's like... look at him. 1001 00:39:18,750 --> 00:39:20,410 Pete's expression says it all. 1002 00:39:20,540 --> 00:39:22,886 I can see the confusion through his shades. 1003 00:39:22,910 --> 00:39:23,806 Yes. 1004 00:39:23,830 --> 00:39:25,516 He's like, what? 1005 00:39:25,540 --> 00:39:27,726 Because we're walking, what... you can see... 20 feet? 1006 00:39:27,750 --> 00:39:28,556 Yeah. 1007 00:39:28,580 --> 00:39:29,386 Ok. 1008 00:39:29,410 --> 00:39:30,676 Look at that. 1009 00:39:30,700 --> 00:39:32,226 It actually did completely change. 1010 00:39:32,250 --> 00:39:33,176 Wow! 1011 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:34,386 Pete, look at this. 1012 00:39:34,410 --> 00:39:37,976 It actually did completely change. 1013 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,056 It's totally different. 1014 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:40,556 It's dead. 1015 00:39:40,580 --> 00:39:43,176 See, that right there is fantastic data. 1016 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,346 Look at that. 1017 00:39:45,370 --> 00:39:47,306 We've gone, what, 20 feet? 1018 00:39:47,330 --> 00:39:48,726 That's unbelievable. 1019 00:39:48,750 --> 00:39:50,886 So I'd like to stop you here and ask a question. 1020 00:39:52,450 --> 00:39:55,016 What I just watched was contiguous footage? 1021 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:56,056 Mhm. Yup. 1022 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:57,386 There was no cut. 1023 00:39:57,410 --> 00:39:59,200 There was no editorial process there. 1024 00:39:59,330 --> 00:40:00,540 That is correct. 1025 00:40:00,660 --> 00:40:02,226 Physically walked, in my hand, 20 feet. 1026 00:40:02,250 --> 00:40:03,846 That's it. 1027 00:40:03,870 --> 00:40:07,846 You dropped, 55 db in 20 feet. 1028 00:40:07,870 --> 00:40:09,636 I mean, you've got the numbers right here. 1029 00:40:09,660 --> 00:40:11,500 55 db, that's ginormous change. 1030 00:40:11,620 --> 00:40:13,040 Orders of magnitude. 1031 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:14,846 Many orders of magnitude change. 1032 00:40:14,870 --> 00:40:17,806 And here's another piece that should be the opposite of this. 1033 00:40:17,830 --> 00:40:19,516 You guys were down in a hole. 1034 00:40:19,540 --> 00:40:20,846 - Right. - Right? 1035 00:40:20,870 --> 00:40:21,676 In a ravine. 1036 00:40:21,700 --> 00:40:23,556 And you walked uphill. 1037 00:40:23,580 --> 00:40:25,306 The signal should have got stronger as you walked uphill 1038 00:40:25,330 --> 00:40:28,176 because there's less terrain blocking from wherever it could 1039 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,476 be coming from, unless it's coming from down there 1040 00:40:30,500 --> 00:40:32,056 in that hole. 1041 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,386 What is this signal doing there? 1042 00:40:34,410 --> 00:40:35,750 That doesn't add up. 1043 00:40:39,330 --> 00:40:41,346 That... that is just too much. 1044 00:40:41,370 --> 00:40:42,726 Here on the ranch when we get it, 1045 00:40:42,750 --> 00:40:44,846 we usually see some kind of phenomena occur. 1046 00:40:44,870 --> 00:40:48,136 We see something we expect, ok, somehow or other, 1047 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,806 the source is with whatever this is, or this is causing it. 1048 00:40:50,830 --> 00:40:52,676 It's a by-product or something. 1049 00:40:52,700 --> 00:40:54,346 This looks like it's just coming out of the dad gum ground. 1050 00:40:54,370 --> 00:40:55,676 Right. 1051 00:40:55,700 --> 00:40:57,016 Or it's a beam coming from somewhere 1052 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,386 else hitting the ground. 1053 00:40:58,410 --> 00:41:00,976 So this is... that shouldn't be there. 1054 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,200 Anyway, whatever that is, it shouldn't be there. 1055 00:41:04,330 --> 00:41:05,676 Either we've got something active, 1056 00:41:05,700 --> 00:41:09,676 something energizing that space in the rf today, 1057 00:41:09,700 --> 00:41:14,016 and for who knows how long, or we've got some kind of residual 1058 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:15,160 from the event. 1059 00:41:15,290 --> 00:41:16,976 So what you have shown 1060 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,226 is there is something very odd about that particular point 1061 00:41:20,250 --> 00:41:21,636 in kecksburg. 1062 00:41:21,660 --> 00:41:23,266 You're talking about getting 1063 00:41:23,290 --> 00:41:26,176 concrete evidence of something... what did you say, 60 years? 1064 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:27,846 60 years ago. 1065 00:41:27,870 --> 00:41:30,556 Did a little beacon fall off of whatever that acorn-shaped 1066 00:41:30,580 --> 00:41:32,556 thing was and it's still... a 60-year battery. 1067 00:41:32,580 --> 00:41:35,660 With a 60-year... yeah, right? 1068 00:41:35,790 --> 00:41:37,636 I'm thinking right now of all sorts of different things 1069 00:41:37,660 --> 00:41:39,676 that we need to go back and do. 1070 00:41:39,700 --> 00:41:42,596 This place, to me, is absolutely fascinating and bizarre. 1071 00:41:42,620 --> 00:41:44,346 I mean, I would love to say that we're 1072 00:41:44,370 --> 00:41:45,676 scratching the surface. 1073 00:41:45,700 --> 00:41:46,516 I feel like we're just tapping on the surface. 1074 00:41:46,540 --> 00:41:48,136 Yeah, yeah. 1075 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:49,516 The more and more you guys do, the more and more 1076 00:41:49,540 --> 00:41:50,676 we realize we don't know. 1077 00:41:50,700 --> 00:41:52,306 That's exactly what I was feeling. 1078 00:41:52,330 --> 00:41:53,676 Good work, guys. 1079 00:41:53,700 --> 00:41:54,726 I didn't think you were going to come back 1080 00:41:54,750 --> 00:41:56,056 with this, that's for sure. 1081 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:56,846 Yeah. 1082 00:41:56,870 --> 00:41:58,346 Neither did we. 1083 00:41:58,370 --> 00:42:00,250 Yeah, can't wait to see what you guys do next. 1083 00:42:01,305 --> 00:43:01,324