Good Night, and Good Luck

1 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:12,074 2 00:00:32,700 --> 00:00:33,840 Okay. 3 00:00:34,619 --> 00:00:35,859 You want to just lay this down? 4 00:00:36,359 --> 00:00:37,359 Ready when you are. 5 00:00:37,700 --> 00:00:38,700 I'm ready. 6 00:00:39,420 --> 00:00:40,420 Are you recording? 7 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,340 I am now. 8 00:01:19,310 --> 00:01:25,329 In a restless world like this is. 9 00:01:28,150 --> 00:01:31,189 Love is ended before it's begun. 10 00:01:37,789 --> 00:01:45,789 And too many moonlight kisses Yes, seem to cool in the world of the sun. 11 00:01:51,579 --> 00:01:59,530 When I give my heart, it will be completely. 12 00:02:02,670 --> 00:02:06,250 Or I'll know I 13 00:02:30,479 --> 00:02:38,479 can feel that you feel that way too is when I fall in love with you. 14 00:03:21,009 --> 00:03:29,009 I can feel that you feel that way too is when I fall in love with you. 15 00:04:02,844 --> 00:04:04,330 This just might do nobody any good. 16 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:10,043 At the end of this discourse, a few people may accuse 17 00:04:10,044 --> 00:04:12,830 this reporter of fouling his own comfortable nest. 18 00:04:14,050 --> 00:04:17,949 And you all may be accused of giving hospitality to heretical and even 19 00:04:18,649 --> 00:04:19,649 dangerous thoughts. 20 00:04:21,029 --> 00:04:24,829 It is my desire, if not my duty, to try to speak to you with some candor 21 00:04:25,754 --> 00:04:28,250 about what is happening in our mass media. 22 00:04:29,759 --> 00:04:35,509 You should know at the outset that I appear here voluntarily by invitation and 23 00:04:35,511 --> 00:04:38,189 that these remarks are strictly of a do-it-yourself nature. 24 00:04:39,740 --> 00:04:44,850 If what I have to say is responsible, I alone am responsible for the saying of it. 25 00:04:45,699 --> 00:04:49,870 I've decided to express my concern on the manner in which we inform ourselves. 26 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,413 I am seized by an abiding fear of what these instruments 27 00:04:54,415 --> 00:04:57,310 are doing to our society, our culture, our heritage. 28 00:04:59,329 --> 00:05:01,069 Our history will be what we make of it. 29 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:07,430 And if any historians, fifty to a hundred years from now were to look, they would in 30 00:05:07,430 --> 00:05:11,538 their fine evidence of decadence, escapism, and insulation 31 00:05:11,538 --> 00:05:13,870 from the realities of the world in which we live. 32 00:05:15,550 --> 00:05:16,790 And surely we will pay a price. 33 00:05:18,555 --> 00:05:21,170 We are currently fat, comfortable, and complacent. 34 00:05:21,170 --> 00:05:26,290 We have a built-in allergy to unpleasant or disturbing information, but unless we 35 00:05:26,290 --> 00:05:30,266 get off of fat assets and recognize that media in the main 36 00:05:30,268 --> 00:05:36,449 is being used to distract, delude, amuse, and insulate us. 37 00:05:37,870 --> 00:05:42,149 Then those who finance it, those who profit from it, those who work at it, 38 00:05:42,310 --> 00:05:43,670 and those who consume it. 39 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,730 May see a totally different picture too late. 40 00:05:48,550 --> 00:05:49,550 Good evening. 41 00:05:50,129 --> 00:05:51,649 Earlier tonight, Adley E. 42 00:05:52,069 --> 00:05:54,127 Stevenson urged the United States to take the 43 00:05:54,127 --> 00:05:56,911 initiative in peace talks with the Soviet Union. 44 00:05:57,170 --> 00:06:00,370 The talks are aimed toward worldwide disarmament and assurances of 45 00:06:00,370 --> 00:06:03,110 non-aggression for the Russians, as well as for the free world. 46 00:06:03,670 --> 00:06:07,569 In a broadcast from his globe circling tour, Stevenson warned the Eisenhower 47 00:06:07,571 --> 00:06:12,410 administration against shutting the door on conferences with the Soviet leaders and 48 00:06:12,411 --> 00:06:15,269 putting too much pressure to be right down on the uncommitted block of nations, 49 00:06:15,271 --> 00:06:18,829 not linked without the Iranian Lee Moss footage from yesterday. 50 00:06:19,149 --> 00:06:20,290 Okay, I'll give it to you. 51 00:06:20,649 --> 00:06:21,990 Wait, it's only two cans? 52 00:06:22,550 --> 00:06:25,589 Yeah, that's all it is, but there's some notes with it to go for Fred. 53 00:06:25,769 --> 00:06:26,889 Oh, Fred's in with the guys. 54 00:06:28,569 --> 00:06:30,170 Okay, I'll give the film, Delilio. 55 00:06:30,290 --> 00:06:31,805 You can go ahead and give the notes to Fred. 56 00:06:31,829 --> 00:06:32,889 He's in the writer's room. 57 00:06:33,629 --> 00:06:34,629 Thank you, Palmer. 58 00:06:35,230 --> 00:06:36,230 Good day. 59 00:06:37,709 --> 00:06:38,709 Hi, Joe. 60 00:06:38,990 --> 00:06:40,310 Shirley, what's going on in here? 61 00:06:40,409 --> 00:06:41,409 Hey, Palmer. 62 00:06:41,904 --> 00:06:44,409 Just making some copies for the... 63 00:06:44,610 --> 00:06:48,529 Just making sure to attractive people alone in a copy room. 64 00:06:49,370 --> 00:06:50,750 Okay, Palmer. 65 00:06:52,750 --> 00:06:54,090 Don't tell anyone anything. 66 00:06:54,529 --> 00:06:55,529 Well, don't tell Fred. 67 00:06:55,810 --> 00:06:56,350 Fire me. 68 00:06:56,644 --> 00:06:58,029 Well, I mean, both of us. 69 00:06:58,350 --> 00:06:59,990 Shirley, it's the nepotism rule. 70 00:07:00,209 --> 00:07:01,209 The nepotism rule. 71 00:07:01,810 --> 00:07:03,410 You know, I think Joe would get the axe. 72 00:07:04,709 --> 00:07:08,149 Well, rules would make to be broken. 73 00:07:08,151 --> 00:07:10,009 You can afford to say that. 74 00:07:10,790 --> 00:07:12,870 Actually, Shirley, I think he's right. 75 00:07:13,370 --> 00:07:13,910 What do you say? 76 00:07:14,089 --> 00:07:15,649 You want to drink tonight? 77 00:07:16,430 --> 00:07:18,430 You're just a couple of guys trying to help. 78 00:07:18,670 --> 00:07:22,149 The day I need dating advice from you two knuckleheads is... 79 00:07:22,860 --> 00:07:29,069 Let me see this. 80 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:33,600 I don't know. 81 00:07:34,670 --> 00:07:37,290 It's simply a loyalty oath. 82 00:07:37,490 --> 00:07:40,430 I mean, there's nothing in there about... America. 83 00:07:41,029 --> 00:07:42,471 You promised to be a loyal narrator. 84 00:07:42,810 --> 00:07:43,149 The other reporters have it. 85 00:07:43,310 --> 00:07:44,050 Who were you promising? 86 00:07:44,329 --> 00:07:44,949 Fred signed it. 87 00:07:45,069 --> 00:07:46,149 CBS, Paley. 88 00:07:46,430 --> 00:07:47,430 And Murrow. 89 00:07:48,649 --> 00:07:49,649 Murrow signed it. 90 00:07:50,709 --> 00:07:51,810 Murrow signed it. 91 00:07:52,939 --> 00:07:57,430 Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of these organizations... 92 00:07:57,430 --> 00:07:58,389 I just thought this was actually a good question. 93 00:07:58,391 --> 00:08:01,329 ...that appeared on the Attorney General's list of subversive groups. 94 00:08:01,449 --> 00:08:02,449 It's a lot of pressure. 95 00:08:03,089 --> 00:08:04,089 I don't know. 96 00:08:04,589 --> 00:08:06,029 Alright, let's think about this. 97 00:08:06,410 --> 00:08:07,410 What is it really saying? 98 00:08:07,689 --> 00:08:09,069 Is it a civil liberties issue? 99 00:08:09,071 --> 00:08:10,071 Is it censorship? 100 00:08:11,589 --> 00:08:12,589 I don't know. 101 00:08:13,110 --> 00:08:17,670 I mean, is it simply stating to CBS that I'm not a communist? 102 00:08:18,149 --> 00:08:19,069 Murrow signed it. 103 00:08:19,170 --> 00:08:19,589 Hey, I'm Fred. 104 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:21,225 Maybe you should talk to Fred. 105 00:08:21,250 --> 00:08:22,250 Well, I'd talk to Fred. 106 00:08:22,689 --> 00:08:23,689 He told me to sign it. 107 00:08:25,050 --> 00:08:27,370 If you don't sign it, are you and I a target? 108 00:08:28,819 --> 00:08:30,490 If I don't sign it, they will fire me. 109 00:08:34,259 --> 00:08:37,210 Well, at least then we can tell everyone the truth. 110 00:08:41,110 --> 00:08:42,110 Okay, all right. 111 00:08:42,929 --> 00:08:43,929 Okay, they got the film? 112 00:08:44,350 --> 00:08:46,149 Yeah, it's all queued up and ready to go. 113 00:08:46,450 --> 00:08:48,129 Oh, Eddie, you're right. 114 00:08:48,690 --> 00:08:49,870 I want you to DC phone book. 115 00:08:50,309 --> 00:08:52,169 More than one Annie Lee Moss in there, right? 116 00:08:52,330 --> 00:08:53,330 Oh, yeah, a lot more. 117 00:08:53,529 --> 00:08:55,230 All right, here they are. 118 00:08:55,389 --> 00:08:56,590 Hey, Joe, we got it queued up. 119 00:08:56,730 --> 00:08:58,129 Hey, Fred, do you want a cigarette? 120 00:08:58,730 --> 00:09:00,169 No, I'll just breathe here. 121 00:09:01,970 --> 00:09:02,429 Sure, sure. 122 00:09:02,929 --> 00:09:04,470 Okay, thank you. 123 00:09:04,909 --> 00:09:05,909 All right. 124 00:09:06,649 --> 00:09:07,169 Betty? 125 00:09:07,509 --> 00:09:07,610 Yeah. 126 00:09:07,789 --> 00:09:08,049 All right. 127 00:09:08,764 --> 00:09:11,090 On this reel, this woman Annie Lee Moss. 128 00:09:12,090 --> 00:09:16,470 This is the person McCarthy has spent two weeks claiming was a spy in the Pentagon. 129 00:09:16,669 --> 00:09:19,789 Yeah, well, she was a clerk in the communications office. 130 00:09:20,090 --> 00:09:21,090 Right. 131 00:09:21,370 --> 00:09:24,990 So, after all this buildup, she finally comes in. 132 00:09:25,830 --> 00:09:30,350 McCarthy only asks her four questions and he gets up and he leaves. 133 00:09:30,669 --> 00:09:31,230 Wait, wait, wait. 134 00:09:31,490 --> 00:09:31,990 He just left? 135 00:09:32,289 --> 00:09:36,730 Well, he realized he had nothing, so Leo hit it. 136 00:09:37,529 --> 00:09:38,529 Yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry. 137 00:09:42,220 --> 00:09:44,370 And you say you personally did not know Robert Hall. 138 00:09:44,690 --> 00:09:45,049 No, sir. 139 00:09:45,169 --> 00:09:47,129 That you were not there when he came to the house. 140 00:09:47,190 --> 00:09:48,190 That's right. 141 00:09:50,799 --> 00:09:54,274 Do you know what business Robert Hall had with your husband, 142 00:09:54,274 --> 00:09:56,750 besides merely delivering the copy of the daily work? 143 00:09:57,070 --> 00:09:57,450 No, sir. 144 00:09:57,610 --> 00:09:58,610 I do know. 145 00:10:00,019 --> 00:10:01,909 I'm afraid I'm going to have to excuse myself. 146 00:10:02,129 --> 00:10:08,690 I've got a rather important appointment tonight, which I've got to work on right now. 147 00:10:08,730 --> 00:10:12,190 And I wonder if none of them are... No, no, no, no, no. 148 00:10:12,191 --> 00:10:13,309 No, no, no, no, no, no. 149 00:10:13,330 --> 00:10:14,330 It's his genetic. 150 00:10:14,610 --> 00:10:16,970 All right, look, and Charlie gets a shot at the empty chair. 151 00:10:17,450 --> 00:10:18,850 Chairman... Right there! 152 00:10:18,909 --> 00:10:20,029 I have no further questions. 153 00:10:20,110 --> 00:10:20,409 This is written. 154 00:10:20,730 --> 00:10:21,730 It's fine. 155 00:10:22,429 --> 00:10:27,110 We have the intent, the money, the money, the FBI, the FBI, they do an 156 00:10:27,110 --> 00:10:30,090 enemy, watch what, a member, a good thing over our business. 157 00:10:30,570 --> 00:10:31,570 The family's party. 158 00:10:31,929 --> 00:10:34,330 You're not being probably a communist party. 159 00:10:34,590 --> 00:10:35,590 Leo, that's enough. 160 00:10:35,730 --> 00:10:36,730 Turn it off. 161 00:10:36,769 --> 00:10:38,470 Oh, that Roy Cohn's a real charmer. 162 00:10:38,929 --> 00:10:40,529 Ed, did you see that he just walked out? 163 00:10:40,850 --> 00:10:43,090 She is not a spy. 164 00:10:43,450 --> 00:10:43,990 You don't know that. 165 00:10:44,370 --> 00:10:46,330 Boy, I'll take the odds on it, Fred. 166 00:10:47,690 --> 00:10:48,690 What do you think, Ed? 167 00:10:49,539 --> 00:10:50,620 You haven't made your case. 168 00:10:52,570 --> 00:10:53,570 He's lying. 169 00:10:54,230 --> 00:10:55,230 What's your proof? 170 00:10:56,389 --> 00:10:58,090 I think it's pretty obvious. 171 00:10:58,389 --> 00:10:59,409 Is that our standard now? 172 00:10:59,629 --> 00:11:00,149 What do you think? 173 00:11:00,490 --> 00:11:04,330 McCarthy told the whole country he'd found the spy in the Pentagon, and it was her? 174 00:11:04,549 --> 00:11:05,549 Meaning what? 175 00:11:05,870 --> 00:11:08,009 I mean, Ed, does she look like a spy to you? 176 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:09,690 What does a spy look like? 177 00:11:09,870 --> 00:11:10,870 Palmer? 178 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:12,929 He got up and left his own here. 179 00:11:13,009 --> 00:11:13,649 No, she's not a spy. 180 00:11:13,870 --> 00:11:14,289 You have a story. 181 00:11:14,490 --> 00:11:16,049 Until then, you haven't made your case. 182 00:11:16,250 --> 00:11:17,250 Finally. 183 00:11:17,570 --> 00:11:20,250 Okay, fellas, let's save it with the rest of their Senate footage. 184 00:11:20,730 --> 00:11:21,730 Thanks. 185 00:11:21,899 --> 00:11:24,830 Fred, did you guys look at the Secretary Steven's stuff? 186 00:11:24,831 --> 00:11:27,029 No, just watch it to the end. 187 00:11:27,149 --> 00:11:27,889 Thank you, John. 188 00:11:28,049 --> 00:11:29,009 You're all the way to the end. 189 00:11:29,010 --> 00:11:33,970 Thank you, John. 190 00:11:34,269 --> 00:11:35,649 It's pretty good stuff, Ed. 191 00:11:35,870 --> 00:11:37,129 We spent any time in Detroit. 192 00:11:37,570 --> 00:11:37,629 Fred. 193 00:11:37,690 --> 00:11:38,929 We got 20 or so of these pieces. 194 00:11:38,950 --> 00:11:39,509 This is the story. 195 00:11:39,850 --> 00:11:41,269 Here in Detroit, pre-pressed. 196 00:11:41,610 --> 00:11:42,070 Dexter, Michigan. 197 00:11:42,570 --> 00:11:44,190 Kid named Milo Ridulovich. 198 00:11:44,470 --> 00:11:45,470 Italian? 199 00:11:46,590 --> 00:11:49,629 Air Force kicked him out because his dad read some Serbian newspaper. 200 00:11:50,509 --> 00:11:52,230 They called Milo a security risk. 201 00:11:52,649 --> 00:11:53,649 This is his dad at Communist? 202 00:11:53,650 --> 00:11:54,129 No. 203 00:11:54,620 --> 00:11:55,620 Who brought the charges? 204 00:11:55,850 --> 00:11:56,169 The Air Force. 205 00:11:56,330 --> 00:11:58,389 The charges were in a sealed envelope. 206 00:11:58,850 --> 00:11:59,470 Nobody saw them. 207 00:11:59,740 --> 00:12:00,740 Not even at the hearing? 208 00:12:01,460 --> 00:12:05,190 He was declared guilty without a trial and told that if he wants to keep his job, 209 00:12:05,409 --> 00:12:08,610 he has to denounce his father and his sister, so he told him to take a hike. 210 00:12:09,330 --> 00:12:10,330 His sister, huh? 211 00:12:11,870 --> 00:12:14,666 Let's send Joe and Charlie down there and see if he's any good on camera. 212 00:12:14,690 --> 00:12:16,330 Is he being brought before the committee? 213 00:12:16,870 --> 00:12:16,950 No. 214 00:12:17,470 --> 00:12:21,129 So, it's not McCarthy, isn't it? 215 00:12:26,590 --> 00:12:27,860 Milo Ridulovich. 216 00:12:30,100 --> 00:12:31,620 Lieutenant Ridulovich. 217 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:33,440 Milo. 218 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:34,840 Let me ask you this. 219 00:12:35,019 --> 00:12:38,840 What happens now to your two children? 220 00:12:39,059 --> 00:12:44,299 That is your five-year-old and your five-month-old in terms of you? 221 00:12:44,919 --> 00:12:45,919 Yes. 222 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,139 If I am being judged, I'm my relatives. 223 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:53,600 If are my children going to be asked to denounce me, are 224 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:58,559 they going to be judged on what their father was labeled? 225 00:12:59,179 --> 00:13:02,775 Are they going to have to explain to their friends, 226 00:13:02,777 --> 00:13:06,041 et cetera, why their father is a security risk? 227 00:13:06,659 --> 00:13:11,620 I see absolutely that this is a chain reaction. 228 00:13:11,620 --> 00:13:18,940 If the thing is let's stand as the first recommendation was sent out by the board. 229 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:24,460 I see a chain reaction that has no end to anybody or anybody. 230 00:13:27,750 --> 00:13:28,750 Well, that's new. 231 00:13:29,315 --> 00:13:31,879 And I don't think you can call this a neutral piece. 232 00:13:32,139 --> 00:13:33,820 I think we tried to talk to the air force. 233 00:13:34,039 --> 00:13:35,360 We haven't seen it so well. 234 00:13:35,940 --> 00:13:41,600 Hey, so you just want to forego the standard you've stuck to for over 50 seconds. 235 00:13:41,774 --> 00:13:43,840 15 years, both sides, no commentary. 236 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,259 You're all editorializing system. 237 00:13:50,179 --> 00:13:53,899 I'm just making sure we identify what it is you're both doing. 238 00:13:54,429 --> 00:13:56,029 I can't find any justification for this. 239 00:13:56,379 --> 00:13:57,940 I can't accept it on every story. 240 00:13:58,220 --> 00:14:00,399 There are two equal and logical sides. 241 00:14:00,580 --> 00:14:02,220 You want to call that editorializing? 242 00:14:02,379 --> 00:14:03,460 We'll give them equal time. 243 00:14:03,500 --> 00:14:05,460 It is editorializing, period. 244 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,000 You understand the position you're putting us in. 245 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:11,200 We're all in it together. 246 00:14:11,779 --> 00:14:14,740 If the Senate and the Air Force ask for it, do me this favor. 247 00:14:16,220 --> 00:14:20,679 Avoid any speeches about how we're all in a big boat together. 248 00:14:22,019 --> 00:14:23,639 Please don't insult me. 249 00:14:23,970 --> 00:14:26,139 Look, I have to go back to Alcoa. 250 00:14:26,259 --> 00:14:29,659 Whose sponsors you show and also has military contracts. 251 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:34,899 And I got to tell them they might get caught in a tough bind because you had a 252 00:14:35,075 --> 00:14:36,179 beef with Joe McCarthy. 253 00:14:36,879 --> 00:14:38,080 I'm not going at Joe McCarthy. 254 00:14:38,105 --> 00:14:40,039 Well, you start in a goddamn fire. 255 00:14:40,399 --> 00:14:41,399 I know what this is. 256 00:14:41,620 --> 00:14:42,279 You guaranteed me. 257 00:14:42,399 --> 00:14:43,600 This goes back to hear it now. 258 00:14:43,860 --> 00:14:47,179 You guaranteed that corporate would have no influence over news content. 259 00:14:47,340 --> 00:14:52,759 What I'm saying is, please don't try to con me into thinking this will be good for me. 260 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:54,320 Just do me that courtesy. 261 00:14:54,820 --> 00:14:56,299 I'm sorry, Mr. Paley. 262 00:14:56,679 --> 00:14:59,419 Fred, there's a Colonel Anderson here to see you. 263 00:15:00,980 --> 00:15:02,500 Okay, Shirley, where is he? 264 00:15:04,100 --> 00:15:05,100 Sorry, gentlemen. 265 00:15:07,350 --> 00:15:10,720 Maybe this guy loves the transcript and is here to congratulate me. 266 00:15:15,769 --> 00:15:17,000 Go after Joe Kennedy. 267 00:15:17,820 --> 00:15:18,820 We'll pay for it. 268 00:15:19,919 --> 00:15:21,539 I got a great story about Hoover. 269 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:27,059 Do you know how many persons you'll have to do to make this up? 270 00:15:27,220 --> 00:15:29,740 Oh, Judy and her daughter Liza next week. 271 00:15:29,740 --> 00:15:30,740 No chance. 272 00:15:30,820 --> 00:15:34,600 You will be interviewing Lassie and then Mr. Ed back to back. 273 00:15:36,940 --> 00:15:37,580 I'll go. 274 00:15:37,700 --> 00:15:38,700 I won't pay for it. 275 00:15:40,039 --> 00:15:41,159 We probably won't either. 276 00:15:41,899 --> 00:15:42,899 Nobody will stop you. 277 00:15:43,179 --> 00:15:43,740 I want you to the ads. 278 00:15:44,139 --> 00:15:45,139 $3,000. 279 00:15:45,740 --> 00:15:46,740 I'll split it with Fred. 280 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,635 You just won't have Christmas presents for his kid this year. 281 00:15:49,659 --> 00:15:50,659 He's a Jew. 282 00:15:51,159 --> 00:15:53,200 Well, Bill Tell Fred, he loves Christmas. 283 00:16:00,139 --> 00:16:01,460 Colonel, Mr. Friendly. 284 00:16:02,399 --> 00:16:03,399 Please. 285 00:16:03,919 --> 00:16:06,220 I trust you've had a chance to review the transcript. 286 00:16:08,570 --> 00:16:11,340 We have, but we've not been allowed to see the footage. 287 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:13,240 We're still shooting it. 288 00:16:14,289 --> 00:16:17,159 Charlie Mack is on a plane from Dexter with the last of the interviews. 289 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,120 We'll be going right down to the wire. 290 00:16:19,539 --> 00:16:20,539 Your show airs tomorrow. 291 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,679 How can we possibly comment on what we're being accused of? 292 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:25,159 You haven't given us the footage? 293 00:16:25,879 --> 00:16:26,879 With all due respect. 294 00:16:28,129 --> 00:16:30,080 You have been invited to comment on this piece. 295 00:16:31,009 --> 00:16:32,299 Not to approve this piece. 296 00:16:33,419 --> 00:16:35,820 We're going with the story that says that the U.S. 297 00:16:36,019 --> 00:16:40,960 Air Force tried Milo Radulovic without one shred of evidence and found him guilty of 298 00:16:40,961 --> 00:16:43,220 being a security risk without the Constitution right. 299 00:16:43,221 --> 00:16:46,179 And you have also not seen the evidence claim he's not. 300 00:16:47,210 --> 00:16:50,440 Wouldn't you guess that the people that have seen the contents of that envelope 301 00:16:50,441 --> 00:16:54,620 might know a little more about what makes a person a danger nor a country? 302 00:16:54,860 --> 00:16:56,735 Are they... Should it just be you that decided? 303 00:16:56,759 --> 00:16:56,960 Appointed. 304 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:58,600 Do they have an axe to grind? 305 00:16:59,080 --> 00:16:59,720 Is it you, sir? 306 00:16:59,721 --> 00:17:02,360 Do you even know the contents of that sealed envelope? 307 00:17:02,539 --> 00:17:05,880 We have been a friend and ally of Mr. Murrow and CBS News. 308 00:17:07,079 --> 00:17:09,599 The story you intend to air is without merits. 309 00:17:13,559 --> 00:17:16,390 Now, before you take steps that cannot be 310 00:17:16,391 --> 00:17:20,361 undone, I urge you to reconsider your stand. 311 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,920 These are very dangerous waters you're attempting to navigate. 312 00:17:26,170 --> 00:17:27,519 Two minutes to air. 313 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,900 Dammit, Millie, unload that thing before I crack. 314 00:17:33,460 --> 00:17:35,019 A couple more seconds. 315 00:17:36,319 --> 00:17:37,319 Okay. 316 00:17:39,059 --> 00:17:40,079 Is Don ready for this? 317 00:17:40,140 --> 00:17:40,559 I don't know. 318 00:17:40,700 --> 00:17:44,180 Tell him I front-loaded the opening with about five seconds extra. 319 00:17:44,339 --> 00:17:45,640 Front-loaded, five seconds. 320 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:46,819 Thank you, Millie. 321 00:17:47,180 --> 00:17:49,900 Oh, Millie, tell Joe he's going to have to do loads over five. 322 00:17:50,579 --> 00:17:51,579 You tell him. 323 00:17:51,940 --> 00:17:53,420 We need a light mic on the floor right here. 324 00:17:53,421 --> 00:17:54,421 I'll get the light set. 325 00:17:54,599 --> 00:17:55,099 Hi, Don. 326 00:17:55,420 --> 00:17:56,059 It's front-loaded. 327 00:17:56,060 --> 00:17:56,680 How am I? 328 00:17:56,779 --> 00:17:57,880 About five seconds. 329 00:17:58,240 --> 00:17:59,240 I said it's too much! 330 00:17:59,420 --> 00:18:00,420 It's missing the light. 331 00:18:00,579 --> 00:18:02,420 Okay, so which piece is Joe's going to do live? 332 00:18:02,700 --> 00:18:03,180 His questions. 333 00:18:03,420 --> 00:18:05,476 Why don't we try to sync it up with the whole show on air? 334 00:18:05,500 --> 00:18:06,299 Yeah, Joe can do it live. 335 00:18:06,519 --> 00:18:07,019 I hate this. 336 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:07,640 You love it. 337 00:18:07,819 --> 00:18:09,740 Fred, Fred, did you time as intro? 338 00:18:10,059 --> 00:18:10,839 I think we're going to be going on. 339 00:18:10,859 --> 00:18:11,880 Long is good, Don. 340 00:18:12,140 --> 00:18:13,380 Remember, no commercial break. 341 00:18:13,579 --> 00:18:13,759 Great. 342 00:18:14,180 --> 00:18:14,539 Great. 343 00:18:14,819 --> 00:18:14,980 Take a day. 344 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,960 Don, they're doing a commercial in the booth. 345 00:18:18,180 --> 00:18:19,599 Well, commercial in the booth. 346 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:21,460 Okay, Eddie, set up a mic. 347 00:18:21,579 --> 00:18:22,180 I got it, Don. 348 00:18:22,420 --> 00:18:23,420 I got it. 349 00:18:23,460 --> 00:18:24,599 That way, that way. 350 00:18:24,601 --> 00:18:25,220 That way, Joe. 351 00:18:25,539 --> 00:18:26,539 It's too loud in here. 352 00:18:26,660 --> 00:18:27,079 One minute. 353 00:18:27,299 --> 00:18:27,480 Ready? 354 00:18:27,839 --> 00:18:28,039 Okay. 355 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:29,440 Thank you. 356 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:30,440 Got the film. 357 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:31,920 Will it be ready? 358 00:18:33,940 --> 00:18:34,940 Yep. 359 00:18:36,619 --> 00:18:39,859 Funny thing, Freddy, every time you light a cigarette for me, I know you're lying. 360 00:18:41,539 --> 00:18:42,539 We'll have it. 361 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:43,640 We'll have it. 362 00:18:44,019 --> 00:18:45,619 What did the Colonel tell you yesterday? 363 00:18:45,940 --> 00:18:47,240 He wasn't too pleased. 364 00:18:48,140 --> 00:18:49,655 You're going to get audited this year. 365 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:50,079 Not me. 366 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:50,759 You. 367 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:50,920 You. 368 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:52,960 I told him I didn't want to do the piece. 369 00:18:54,339 --> 00:18:55,599 You always wear yellow. 370 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:57,400 Better than red. 371 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:58,640 Twenty seconds. 372 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:05,140 You know, it occurs to me we might not get away with this one. 373 00:19:10,369 --> 00:19:11,369 Ten seconds. 374 00:19:15,450 --> 00:19:26,130 In five, four, three, two... Stand by now, or see it now, with Edward R. 375 00:19:26,470 --> 00:19:27,470 Murrow. 376 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:42,240 Al Coa, aluminum company of America. 377 00:19:42,900 --> 00:19:45,689 In cooperation with CVS Television, presents the 378 00:19:45,690 --> 00:19:49,460 distinguished reporter and news analyst, Edward R. 379 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:50,180 Murrow. 380 00:19:50,779 --> 00:19:56,460 In see it now, edited and produced by Mr. Murrow and Fred W. 381 00:19:56,900 --> 00:19:56,900 Friendly. 382 00:19:56,901 --> 00:20:00,013 A weekly presentation of aluminum company of 383 00:20:00,015 --> 00:20:03,780 America, the nation's leading producer of aluminum. 384 00:20:04,930 --> 00:20:09,680 Now, speaking to you from the control room of Studio 41, is the editor of the... 385 00:20:09,681 --> 00:20:12,900 Five, five, four, three, two... 386 00:20:13,420 --> 00:20:14,420 Good evening. 387 00:20:14,730 --> 00:20:18,799 A few weeks ago, there appeared a few obscured notices in the newspapers about a 388 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,940 Lieutenant Milo Radulovich, a lieutenant in the Air Force Reserves, and also 389 00:20:22,941 --> 00:20:25,900 something about Air Force Regulation 35-62. 390 00:20:27,535 --> 00:20:31,559 That is a regulation which states that a person may be regarded as a security risk, 391 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,960 if he has close and continuing association with communists, where people believe to 392 00:20:36,259 --> 00:20:37,299 have communist sympathies. 393 00:20:37,904 --> 00:20:40,400 The lieutenant was asked to resign in August. 394 00:20:40,579 --> 00:20:41,579 He declined. 395 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,359 A board was called, and his case was heard. 396 00:20:44,214 --> 00:20:47,660 At the end, it was recommended that he be severed from the Air Force, although it 397 00:20:47,661 --> 00:20:51,799 was also stated that there was no question whatsoever as to the lieutenant's loyalty. 398 00:20:52,855 --> 00:20:56,400 We propose to examine, in so far as we can, the case of Milo Radulovich, 399 00:20:56,599 --> 00:20:58,940 our reporter, Joe Worshipa, Cameron, Charlie Mack. 400 00:20:59,960 --> 00:21:03,819 This is the town of Dexter Mission, population 1500. 401 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:06,799 This is the story of Milo Radulovich. 402 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:08,359 No special hero, no martyr. 403 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,380 He came to Dexter one year ago after ten years in the Air Force. 404 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:18,299 Of course, does not question my loyalty in the least. 405 00:21:18,539 --> 00:21:20,740 They have reiterated that on several occasions. 406 00:21:22,140 --> 00:21:29,359 They have presented me with allegations against my sister and father that they 407 00:21:29,361 --> 00:21:35,319 have to the effect that my sister and dad have taken, have read what I know, 408 00:21:35,539 --> 00:21:36,819 called subrussing newspapers. 409 00:21:36,820 --> 00:21:44,359 And that my sister and father's activities are questionable. 410 00:21:45,250 --> 00:21:50,700 That's the specific charge or allegation I prefer to call it against them. 411 00:21:51,589 --> 00:21:54,480 Lieutenant Radulovich was defended by Attorney Charles C. 412 00:21:54,839 --> 00:21:57,200 Lockwood, and this is the report on the hearing. 413 00:21:58,355 --> 00:22:00,900 The Air Force did not produce a single witness. 414 00:22:01,549 --> 00:22:03,859 We were not told who the accusers were. 415 00:22:04,460 --> 00:22:08,220 We had no right to confront them or to cross-examine them. 416 00:22:08,950 --> 00:22:13,400 But at the conclusion of the trial, although we had met the allegations, 417 00:22:14,099 --> 00:22:17,432 the Air Force made findings at the conclusion of 418 00:22:17,433 --> 00:22:21,259 the hearing that every single allegation was true. 419 00:22:21,869 --> 00:22:24,119 This is the sister of Margaret Radulovich Fishman. 420 00:22:24,529 --> 00:22:27,119 She neither defends nor explains her political activities. 421 00:22:30,029 --> 00:22:35,960 I feel that my activities, will be what they may or my political beliefs, 422 00:22:36,164 --> 00:22:37,759 are my own private affair. 423 00:22:38,759 --> 00:22:46,400 And I feel that the charges leveled against me, and by reason of which he is 424 00:22:46,401 --> 00:22:50,548 trying to purge him from the army, are just to 425 00:22:50,549 --> 00:22:55,859 seem to me to be a fantastic trend in this country. 426 00:22:57,269 --> 00:23:01,099 Milo, I guess a lot of people must have asked you from time to time. 427 00:23:01,339 --> 00:23:04,880 It wouldn't have been a lot easier for you if you would have... 428 00:23:04,904 --> 00:23:07,400 Well, just kept sort of quiet about the whole thing. 429 00:23:07,759 --> 00:23:09,982 Maybe resigned, and nobody would have known anything 430 00:23:09,983 --> 00:23:12,280 about it, and all this trouble wouldn't have come to you? 431 00:23:12,799 --> 00:23:13,799 Yes, that's right. 432 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:19,720 I could have signed a resignation form, which was titled 433 00:23:19,721 --> 00:23:23,559 a resignation in lieu of elimination from the service. 434 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:27,160 And this would have given me an honourable discharge. 435 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,799 However, the honourable discharge would have stipulated that I had, you know, 436 00:23:32,079 --> 00:23:36,880 been discharged because the Air Force could not trust me. 437 00:23:37,019 --> 00:23:40,799 In other words, because I had been discharged as a security risk. 438 00:23:41,539 --> 00:23:42,900 What happens to your two children? 439 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,099 That is, your five-year-old and your five-month-old in terms of you? 440 00:23:46,700 --> 00:23:53,460 Yes, if I am being judged on my relatives, if my children are going to be asked to 441 00:23:53,461 --> 00:23:59,900 denounce me, are they going to be judged on what their father was labeled? 442 00:24:00,599 --> 00:24:04,182 Are they going to have to explain to their friends, 443 00:24:04,183 --> 00:24:07,441 et cetera, why their father is a security risk? 444 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:13,000 I see absolutely that this is a chain reaction. 445 00:24:13,859 --> 00:24:20,319 If the thing is, let's stand as the first recommendation was sent out by the board. 446 00:24:20,980 --> 00:24:25,859 I see a chain reaction that has no money to anybody or anybody. 447 00:24:27,220 --> 00:24:29,903 Perhaps you'll permit me to read a few sentences just at the 448 00:24:29,904 --> 00:24:32,460 end, because I'd like to say rather precisely what we mean. 449 00:24:33,420 --> 00:24:36,940 We have told the Air Force that we will provide facilities for any corrections or 450 00:24:36,941 --> 00:24:40,339 criticisms it should like to make in the case of Milo Redulovich. 451 00:24:41,105 --> 00:24:44,660 We are unable to judge the charges against the Lieutenant's father or sister, 452 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,588 because neither we nor you nor they nor the lawyers nor 453 00:24:48,589 --> 00:24:51,519 precisely what was contained in that Manila envelope. 454 00:24:52,380 --> 00:24:56,480 Was it hearsay, rumour, gossip, slander, or was it hard, ascertainable 455 00:24:56,605 --> 00:24:58,404 fact that can be backed by credible witnesses? 456 00:24:58,980 --> 00:24:59,980 We do not know. 457 00:25:00,970 --> 00:25:04,619 We believe the son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, even if that 458 00:25:04,621 --> 00:25:07,279 iniquity be proved, and in this case it was not. 459 00:25:08,250 --> 00:25:11,680 But we also believe that this case illustrates the urgent need for the armed 460 00:25:11,681 --> 00:25:16,000 forces to communicate more fully than they have so far done, the regulations and 461 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,861 procedures to be followed in attempting to protect 462 00:25:18,862 --> 00:25:21,681 national security and the rights of the individual. 463 00:25:22,619 --> 00:25:26,240 In any case, whatever happens in this whole area of the relationship between the 464 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,740 individual and the state, we will do it ourselves. 465 00:25:29,750 --> 00:25:34,019 It cannot be blamed on Malanchoff or Mounted Tongue or even our allies, 466 00:25:34,020 --> 00:25:37,374 and it seems to us that is Fred friendly and myself that 467 00:25:37,375 --> 00:25:40,200 this is a subject that should be argued about endlessly. 468 00:25:41,575 --> 00:25:42,880 Good night, and good luck. 469 00:25:44,460 --> 00:25:45,460 Friday's Edward R. 470 00:25:45,599 --> 00:25:48,460 Murrow, person-to-person, on the CBS television network. 471 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:51,440 And we're out. 472 00:25:59,210 --> 00:26:00,730 Are we in for it, Freddy? 473 00:26:01,490 --> 00:26:03,069 I think we're fine. 474 00:26:06,769 --> 00:26:09,549 Oh, I like the sound of it. 475 00:26:11,470 --> 00:26:12,470 What's this to? 476 00:26:13,589 --> 00:26:14,809 Oh, alright. 477 00:26:17,990 --> 00:26:19,450 I sure hope I remember these words. 478 00:26:19,890 --> 00:26:20,930 It's been a while, I know. 479 00:26:21,690 --> 00:26:22,690 Right here. 480 00:26:24,029 --> 00:26:28,029 I've got my eyes on you. 481 00:26:28,670 --> 00:26:33,490 So best be where, where you roll. 482 00:26:37,930 --> 00:26:40,869 I know, don't know the word. 483 00:26:42,089 --> 00:26:43,410 I thought I did. 484 00:26:44,410 --> 00:26:47,369 But I know the rain. 485 00:26:47,529 --> 00:26:51,410 Incidentally, incidentally I beg your aim. 486 00:26:51,809 --> 00:26:54,230 Set my spies on you. 487 00:26:54,750 --> 00:26:57,109 I'm checking on all you do. 488 00:26:58,279 --> 00:26:59,630 From A to Z. 489 00:27:03,170 --> 00:27:07,509 So, don't it just be wise. 490 00:27:08,279 --> 00:27:12,710 Keep your eyes on me. 491 00:27:14,710 --> 00:27:19,690 Keep your eyes on me. 492 00:27:22,430 --> 00:27:24,549 Alright, let's take a look at all these words. 493 00:27:26,170 --> 00:27:27,170 For 494 00:27:54,039 --> 00:27:54,180 it. 495 00:27:54,650 --> 00:27:55,839 Lee, how old are you? 496 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:57,680 I'm 35, Ed. 497 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,400 Well, it's... 35, looking back at all that's happened. 498 00:28:01,940 --> 00:28:03,140 What comes to your mind first? 499 00:28:05,039 --> 00:28:06,799 Ed, I would say that. 500 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:11,940 God has been very, very good to us in making all of this happen to our family. 501 00:28:12,819 --> 00:28:18,079 And I suppose that nowhere but in the United States could... 502 00:28:18,529 --> 00:28:21,960 this happen to an ordinary American family like ours. 503 00:28:23,099 --> 00:28:24,099 I'm very grateful. 504 00:28:24,450 --> 00:28:27,529 Well, Shirley, something must get under your skin once in a while, doesn't it? 505 00:28:28,369 --> 00:28:32,625 Well, about the only thing that bothers me is when people 506 00:28:32,724 --> 00:28:37,119 accuse me of having a following only of nice old ladies. 507 00:28:37,670 --> 00:28:42,519 I have nothing against the nice old ladies, so I like nice young ladies too. 508 00:28:43,700 --> 00:28:46,541 Well, Lee, thanks so much for letting us come and visit you, 509 00:28:46,542 --> 00:28:49,101 and will you say good night to the rest of your family for us? 510 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:50,480 I certainly will. 511 00:28:51,019 --> 00:28:52,019 Thanks so much. 512 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:52,900 Good night, Ed. 513 00:28:53,119 --> 00:28:53,299 Good night, Ed. 514 00:28:53,300 --> 00:28:54,300 Good night, Lee. 515 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,052 Next week we'll take you to Beverly Hills, California, 516 00:28:57,054 --> 00:28:59,340 and the home of Mickey Rooney and his new bride. 517 00:29:00,099 --> 00:29:02,119 Until then, good night, and good luck. 518 00:29:03,269 --> 00:29:04,299 And we're out. 519 00:29:10,549 --> 00:29:11,650 Good show, Ed. 520 00:29:19,089 --> 00:29:20,089 She saw that. 521 00:29:38,470 --> 00:29:39,470 Mr. Morrow. 522 00:29:42,009 --> 00:29:43,009 Mr. Morrow. 523 00:29:43,430 --> 00:29:45,970 Mr. Paley was wondering if you'd meet him for a drink. 524 00:29:46,690 --> 00:29:47,690 When? 525 00:29:48,269 --> 00:29:48,710 Now. 526 00:29:49,190 --> 00:29:50,349 He's at the Pensacomb Bar. 527 00:29:50,990 --> 00:29:51,990 What's he doing there? 528 00:29:52,210 --> 00:29:53,630 Will you just call him, Shirley? 529 00:29:53,890 --> 00:29:54,089 Will you please? 530 00:29:54,470 --> 00:29:54,970 I'll let him know. 531 00:29:55,190 --> 00:29:56,190 Thank you. 532 00:29:58,549 --> 00:29:59,549 Hi, Don. 533 00:29:59,769 --> 00:30:00,769 Hi, Shirley. 534 00:30:02,029 --> 00:30:03,029 Hi. 535 00:30:08,630 --> 00:30:09,910 You're getting good at this, Ed. 536 00:30:11,039 --> 00:30:12,440 They're going to think you like it? 537 00:30:12,900 --> 00:30:13,900 Pays the bills. 538 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:15,640 How are you, Don? 539 00:30:16,180 --> 00:30:17,180 It's day today. 540 00:30:17,940 --> 00:30:20,140 Well, she saw how good you look right now. 541 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:21,160 She'd be back. 542 00:30:21,210 --> 00:30:22,769 Tell her that if you see her, will you? 543 00:30:23,849 --> 00:30:25,279 So I read the O'Brien piece. 544 00:30:25,890 --> 00:30:27,359 Yeah, it's pretty tough. 545 00:30:28,579 --> 00:30:29,579 I'm a pinko. 546 00:30:29,859 --> 00:30:31,019 I slant the news. 547 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,099 Just waiting for him to say my wife left me too. 548 00:30:34,505 --> 00:30:36,279 Well, nobody worth their salt reads him. 549 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,000 You read him? 550 00:30:38,420 --> 00:30:39,579 Well, see, I rest in my case. 551 00:30:41,519 --> 00:30:42,519 Does Paley read him? 552 00:30:44,390 --> 00:30:46,160 Bill Paley's not going to do anything, Don. 553 00:30:47,259 --> 00:30:48,259 Listen, Ed. 554 00:30:48,359 --> 00:30:49,359 Thanks. 555 00:30:49,900 --> 00:30:52,900 I just came over because I wanted to see how great the lieutenant piece was. 556 00:30:53,059 --> 00:30:53,240 Thanks. 557 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:54,720 Has the fallout. 558 00:30:55,059 --> 00:30:56,440 Mostly good, surprisingly. 559 00:30:57,279 --> 00:30:58,279 Is this the start? 560 00:30:58,359 --> 00:30:59,099 You taking sides? 561 00:30:59,380 --> 00:31:00,740 Just a little poke with the stick. 562 00:31:00,839 --> 00:31:01,839 See what happens? 563 00:31:01,900 --> 00:31:03,180 Well, let me know if I can help. 564 00:31:03,950 --> 00:31:04,950 But you're a pinko, Don. 565 00:31:05,599 --> 00:31:06,599 I'll see you, Ed. 566 00:31:07,359 --> 00:31:08,920 May I have your attention, please? 567 00:31:09,319 --> 00:31:10,319 On track one. 568 00:31:10,779 --> 00:31:13,279 The 830 train to New Haven has been cancelled. 569 00:31:13,859 --> 00:31:15,319 We apologize for any inconvenience. 570 00:31:16,420 --> 00:31:17,420 Hey. 571 00:31:17,779 --> 00:31:18,779 Joe. 572 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,319 We saw this rad witch junk you're putting out. 573 00:31:23,140 --> 00:31:24,140 Oh, Don. 574 00:31:25,319 --> 00:31:26,880 I got nothing to say to you now. 575 00:31:27,329 --> 00:31:29,200 We just got to get this film off to the lab. 576 00:31:30,119 --> 00:31:34,460 What would you say if I told you that Murrow was on the Soviet payroll in 1934? 577 00:31:39,470 --> 00:31:40,470 Give us a sec. 578 00:31:40,630 --> 00:31:41,630 Will you, Charlie? 579 00:31:41,970 --> 00:31:42,450 Sure. 580 00:31:42,869 --> 00:31:44,029 I got to use the head anyway. 581 00:31:47,269 --> 00:31:48,269 Hey, Joe. 582 00:31:49,029 --> 00:31:50,190 Watch yourself with this guy. 583 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,940 Is McCarthy going to the Eisenhower dinner? 584 00:32:01,119 --> 00:32:01,619 No idea. 585 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,319 I don't keep the senator's calendar for him, Joe. 586 00:32:04,859 --> 00:32:05,859 Oh, really? 587 00:32:06,509 --> 00:32:07,779 This is a track change announcement. 588 00:32:07,780 --> 00:32:13,440 The 845 Northeast Corridor Train to New York City will be arriving on track two. 589 00:32:17,259 --> 00:32:19,519 Well, that you don't watch any spy films, Donald. 590 00:32:20,660 --> 00:32:22,900 Can't just hand me a classified folder. 591 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,119 You got to slip it in my briefcase when I'm not looking. 592 00:32:26,930 --> 00:32:27,930 It's actually perfect. 593 00:32:28,059 --> 00:32:29,859 I didn't know who to give this information to. 594 00:32:30,299 --> 00:32:31,299 Paley or Murrow. 595 00:32:31,779 --> 00:32:34,519 As you can imagine, Fred and I aren't very friendly. 596 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:35,640 No pun intended. 597 00:32:35,641 --> 00:32:37,640 No pun elocuted. 598 00:32:40,359 --> 00:32:41,359 Elocuted. 599 00:32:41,569 --> 00:32:43,960 Is that a word or did you just make that up? 600 00:32:44,904 --> 00:32:46,440 You boys in your words. 601 00:32:47,250 --> 00:32:50,000 Is Ed in New York right now memorizing at the source? 602 00:32:51,025 --> 00:32:53,759 Joe, what's another word for the source? 603 00:32:54,319 --> 00:32:59,200 Oh, it must be awfully quiet at the algonquin now that you're gone. 604 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,759 Except for Harpo talking away. 605 00:33:02,500 --> 00:33:03,500 All right, Donald. 606 00:33:03,900 --> 00:33:04,900 What do you got? 607 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:09,720 In short, Ed Murrow's been a communist sympathizer since the 1930s. 608 00:33:10,244 --> 00:33:12,240 Member of the industrial workers of the world. 609 00:33:12,519 --> 00:33:17,940 Sponsor of educational trips to Moscow and on the Soviet payroll in 1934. 610 00:33:18,839 --> 00:33:19,839 It's all there. 611 00:33:22,819 --> 00:33:23,819 You... 612 00:33:26,269 --> 00:33:27,910 You want to know why that's not possible? 613 00:33:28,865 --> 00:33:30,940 Why are you going to lose this one, Donald? 614 00:33:32,210 --> 00:33:35,545 Because everybody in the country knows that if 615 00:33:35,546 --> 00:33:38,400 nothing else, Ed Murrow is a loyal American. 616 00:33:38,619 --> 00:33:39,619 He is a patriot. 617 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:44,279 Did you know that the word gullible isn't in the dictionary, Joe? 618 00:33:44,980 --> 00:33:45,660 I give this to Ed. 619 00:33:45,839 --> 00:33:46,839 I'd like you to. 620 00:33:46,900 --> 00:33:47,900 I have copies. 621 00:33:49,940 --> 00:33:51,319 I think you guys go too far. 622 00:33:51,670 --> 00:33:58,140 Well, if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, it's a terrible shame. 623 00:33:58,980 --> 00:34:01,680 Murrow's brother being a general in the Air Force. 624 00:34:03,039 --> 00:34:04,039 What'd I miss? 625 00:34:06,279 --> 00:34:07,279 Nothing. 626 00:34:08,340 --> 00:34:09,619 Ed, Donald's just leaving. 627 00:34:10,079 --> 00:34:13,059 He's... got to hold the crawl back into. 628 00:34:14,775 --> 00:34:16,119 Give my best to Ed. 629 00:34:25,030 --> 00:34:26,030 Bill? 630 00:34:26,170 --> 00:34:27,170 Hello, Ed. 631 00:34:28,670 --> 00:34:28,949 How's your boy? 632 00:34:29,230 --> 00:34:30,610 Oh, well, how's babe? 633 00:34:31,190 --> 00:34:32,190 Fine. 634 00:34:32,289 --> 00:34:32,550 She's fine. 635 00:34:32,550 --> 00:34:32,690 Fine. 636 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,550 Well, her fundraiser got reigned on. 637 00:34:35,690 --> 00:34:37,070 That's why I don't plan anything. 638 00:34:37,489 --> 00:34:37,710 Really? 639 00:34:38,269 --> 00:34:39,269 You wouldn't know it. 640 00:34:39,869 --> 00:34:40,869 Reading fiction? 641 00:34:41,170 --> 00:34:42,170 I hope. 642 00:34:42,989 --> 00:34:43,989 You tell me. 643 00:34:44,050 --> 00:34:45,851 Well, we know how they're going to come at us. 644 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,269 That's just the first shot. 645 00:34:47,989 --> 00:34:49,329 Somebody will go down. 646 00:34:49,469 --> 00:34:50,630 Have you checked your facts? 647 00:34:51,110 --> 00:34:52,130 Are you unsafe, Brown? 648 00:34:52,230 --> 00:34:52,349 It's time. 649 00:34:52,469 --> 00:34:52,809 Sure. 650 00:34:53,090 --> 00:34:53,269 Cards. 651 00:34:53,650 --> 00:34:54,650 They're my cards. 652 00:34:55,630 --> 00:34:55,929 You lose? 653 00:34:56,309 --> 00:34:56,570 What happens? 654 00:34:56,929 --> 00:34:59,090 Five guys find themselves out of work. 655 00:35:00,260 --> 00:35:04,610 I am responsible for a hell of a lot more than five goddamn reporters. 656 00:35:06,650 --> 00:35:07,650 Let it go. 657 00:35:08,559 --> 00:35:10,230 Oh, McCarthy will self-destruct. 658 00:35:10,730 --> 00:35:10,969 Cone. 659 00:35:11,210 --> 00:35:11,550 All of them. 660 00:35:11,650 --> 00:35:13,065 They're like you to run from a fight. 661 00:35:13,090 --> 00:35:14,289 I'm not running from anything. 662 00:35:14,530 --> 00:35:14,650 Yes, that's so. 663 00:35:14,849 --> 00:35:15,849 Hey. 664 00:35:16,250 --> 00:35:17,250 I write your check. 665 00:35:18,079 --> 00:35:19,489 I put you in that country house. 666 00:35:19,670 --> 00:35:20,869 I put your son through school. 667 00:35:21,429 --> 00:35:24,349 And you should have told me about this before it got so far down the road. 668 00:35:24,644 --> 00:35:25,929 Is it an apology that you want? 669 00:35:25,989 --> 00:35:27,969 We don't make the news, Ed. 670 00:35:27,971 --> 00:35:29,610 We report the news. 671 00:35:29,610 --> 00:35:31,869 The nine percent of the time he is wrong about the people he's been... 672 00:35:31,871 --> 00:35:35,070 If he goes too far... ...in the Senate, we'll investigate... 673 00:35:35,070 --> 00:35:38,010 ...and we'll report how long he steps on their civil limit. 674 00:35:38,110 --> 00:35:39,210 What are you doing, Ed? 675 00:35:39,469 --> 00:35:41,789 You are trying him in the press. 676 00:35:42,309 --> 00:35:44,650 No, you have decided on this. 677 00:35:45,130 --> 00:35:46,530 And you're presenting it as fast. 678 00:35:46,670 --> 00:35:47,989 So what do you want to take this? 679 00:35:54,500 --> 00:35:56,119 Every one of your boys has to be clean. 680 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:57,800 You understand. 681 00:35:58,239 --> 00:35:58,519 No ties. 682 00:35:58,769 --> 00:36:04,760 If Aaron's mother went to a group theater fundraiser in 1932, he is out. 683 00:36:05,260 --> 00:36:05,820 You would, too. 684 00:36:06,139 --> 00:36:08,579 Everyone in that room make no mistake. 685 00:36:08,755 --> 00:36:10,119 I will cut them loose. 686 00:36:11,114 --> 00:36:14,059 A corporate will not interfere with editorial. 687 00:36:15,079 --> 00:36:18,298 But editorial will not jeopardize the hundreds 688 00:36:18,300 --> 00:36:21,440 of employees of the Columbia Broadcasting System. 689 00:36:22,059 --> 00:36:22,559 Yes. 690 00:36:22,980 --> 00:36:25,420 Mr. Paley's senator saw him in his on the phone. 691 00:36:25,420 --> 00:36:29,719 And we're not advertising it. 692 00:36:32,599 --> 00:36:33,599 Hello, Steve. 693 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:35,480 Right. 694 00:36:35,789 --> 00:36:38,340 Well, yes, senator, I do have a question. 695 00:36:38,500 --> 00:36:43,141 As military has said to have better nuclear capabilities with much smaller bombs. 696 00:36:43,179 --> 00:36:45,440 But the Soviets have developed longer-range missiles... 697 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,280 ...which pits the two powers against each other... 698 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,360 ...and a race to build the first intercontinental rocket... 699 00:36:51,460 --> 00:36:53,219 ...capable of delivering a nuclear explosion. 700 00:36:53,221 --> 00:36:56,360 The Soviets believe they have the upper hand. 701 00:36:56,940 --> 00:36:59,860 But military experts here at home are confident the U.S. 702 00:36:59,860 --> 00:37:00,860 will win the race... 703 00:37:01,070 --> 00:37:04,320 ...to complete a full and functioning missile capable of carrying... 704 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,280 No, I was afraid of losing our sponsors. 705 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:07,760 Have we lost sponsors? 706 00:37:08,099 --> 00:37:08,239 Come on. 707 00:37:08,260 --> 00:37:09,260 I don't understand. 708 00:37:09,579 --> 00:37:10,579 Let me make it easier. 709 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,900 I just need to know for the good of the peace. 710 00:37:13,769 --> 00:37:19,480 If any of you have any connection at all... ...read a Communist newsletter... 711 00:37:19,679 --> 00:37:23,860 ...traveled to St. Petersburg... ...was your mother dating a socialist in 1922. 712 00:37:24,420 --> 00:37:25,159 You know what? 713 00:37:25,420 --> 00:37:27,320 Why don't you leave my mother out of there? 714 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:28,320 Don't care. 715 00:37:28,619 --> 00:37:29,880 I just need to know. 716 00:37:30,405 --> 00:37:33,059 You know, I had a fling with the fascist ones. 717 00:37:33,460 --> 00:37:34,219 That must have been fun. 718 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:35,659 No, not after the war. 719 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:36,960 They were a little down. 720 00:37:37,039 --> 00:37:38,420 Maybe a little down. 721 00:37:39,659 --> 00:37:40,659 Excuse me. 722 00:37:41,300 --> 00:37:42,940 I think I should excuse myself. 723 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:44,699 I'm gonna have to excuse myself. 724 00:37:46,679 --> 00:37:47,039 No, Billy. 725 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:47,579 Come on. 726 00:37:47,679 --> 00:37:48,679 Let me get out. 727 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:49,079 Now. 728 00:37:49,081 --> 00:37:50,081 What? 729 00:37:51,704 --> 00:37:52,460 I don't want to hurt us. 730 00:37:52,699 --> 00:37:52,900 Christ. 731 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:54,400 Okay, that kills us. 732 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:55,960 Oh. 733 00:37:57,900 --> 00:37:59,079 My ex was... 734 00:38:01,119 --> 00:38:04,119 I wouldn't say she was a Communist, but... 735 00:38:05,179 --> 00:38:06,581 ...she certainly attended meetings. 736 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,179 It was before we were married. 737 00:38:11,369 --> 00:38:14,019 And it never came up until after we were divorced. 738 00:38:15,380 --> 00:38:17,340 And didn't matter then, we were... 739 00:38:18,954 --> 00:38:20,115 We were all on the same side. 740 00:38:22,219 --> 00:38:24,340 Look, I'm not telling you anything you don't already 741 00:38:24,340 --> 00:38:27,159 know, but the thing of it is, somebody will find out. 742 00:38:27,639 --> 00:38:28,519 And they'll hurt us with it. 743 00:38:28,619 --> 00:38:29,619 Hurt us? 744 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:30,960 We can't do the story. 745 00:38:31,340 --> 00:38:32,539 I should have told you sooner. 746 00:38:33,619 --> 00:38:34,619 Sorry, Fred. 747 00:38:35,900 --> 00:38:36,900 Ed. 748 00:38:41,099 --> 00:38:42,099 Sit down. 749 00:38:42,199 --> 00:38:43,199 Homer. 750 00:38:43,659 --> 00:38:44,659 Sit down. 751 00:38:54,860 --> 00:38:58,960 If none of us ever read a book that was dangerous or had a friend that was 752 00:38:59,235 --> 00:39:02,976 different or joined an organization that advocated change, 753 00:39:02,976 --> 00:39:06,340 we would all be the exact kind of person Joe McCarthy wants. 754 00:39:09,420 --> 00:39:10,740 We're going to go with the story. 755 00:39:12,110 --> 00:39:14,219 Because the terror is right here in this room. 756 00:39:16,590 --> 00:39:19,699 Our next report will be about the Junior Senator from Wisconsin. 757 00:39:20,125 --> 00:39:21,405 And Fred, we use only his words. 758 00:39:21,519 --> 00:39:22,519 You understand? 759 00:39:23,579 --> 00:39:24,880 Okay, fellas, that's it. 760 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,000 All the footage we've banked, everything. 761 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,380 John, you and Joe and Charlie go through the QA hearings. 762 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,179 Eddie and Palmer, see what else we have. 763 00:39:33,539 --> 00:39:35,239 Any speeches he gave or interviews. 764 00:39:35,900 --> 00:39:36,900 His own words, boys. 765 00:39:37,500 --> 00:39:38,500 That's what we need. 766 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,500 Millie, give me those notes. 767 00:39:44,099 --> 00:39:45,360 There 768 00:39:50,699 --> 00:39:58,699 may be trouble ahead, but while there's moonlight and music and love and romance, 769 00:40:00,349 --> 00:40:03,500 let's face the music and dance. 770 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:13,239 Before the feelings have fled, before they ask us to pay the bill, 771 00:40:13,980 --> 00:40:21,400 and while we still got a chance, let's face the music and dance. 772 00:40:24,300 --> 00:40:28,780 We'll be without the moon, coming up different too. 773 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:35,119 And then, there may be tear drops to share. 774 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:42,643 But while there's moonlight and music and love 775 00:40:42,643 --> 00:40:47,360 and romance, let's face the music and dance. 776 00:40:49,050 --> 00:40:53,800 Let's face the music and dance. 777 00:41:02,309 --> 00:41:03,309 We're going to make it? 778 00:41:03,469 --> 00:41:04,550 We lost the projector. 779 00:41:05,869 --> 00:41:07,150 Yeah, we'll make it. 780 00:41:07,469 --> 00:41:08,590 Excuse me, Mr. Murrow. 781 00:41:09,230 --> 00:41:10,329 Mr. Paley's on the line. 782 00:41:11,684 --> 00:41:13,730 Maybe he's going to reimburse us for the ads. 783 00:41:14,510 --> 00:41:15,630 That's people you like that. 784 00:41:15,789 --> 00:41:16,429 I would like that. 785 00:41:16,469 --> 00:41:17,469 I already used it. 786 00:41:20,010 --> 00:41:21,010 This is it. 787 00:41:21,530 --> 00:41:25,789 Hey, the knickerbarkers are playing tonight, and I got front row seats. 788 00:41:25,989 --> 00:41:26,989 Are you interested? 789 00:41:27,650 --> 00:41:29,969 A little busy bringing down the network tonight, Bill. 790 00:41:32,114 --> 00:41:33,309 Oh, is that tonight? 791 00:41:34,300 --> 00:41:35,420 The knickerbarkers, you say? 792 00:41:35,460 --> 00:41:36,710 Front row, it's tempting. 793 00:41:39,289 --> 00:41:40,289 So you know that. 794 00:41:41,050 --> 00:41:42,050 We're covered. 795 00:41:42,710 --> 00:41:43,710 All right. 796 00:41:46,090 --> 00:41:47,090 I'm with you tonight, Ed. 797 00:41:47,985 --> 00:41:49,710 And I'll be with you in the morning as well. 798 00:41:51,849 --> 00:41:52,849 Thanks, Bill. 799 00:41:55,050 --> 00:41:56,010 What do you think, Joe? 800 00:41:56,010 --> 00:41:59,409 I think we're ready. 801 00:42:00,545 --> 00:42:02,889 I wish we could wait until we get more footage. 802 00:42:03,170 --> 00:42:04,686 I just don't think we could take the chance. 803 00:42:04,710 --> 00:42:08,889 I think that we have to hit McCarthy before he could come after Ed. 804 00:42:09,369 --> 00:42:12,530 Well, I haven't gone after the All-Saps or Her Block. 805 00:42:13,300 --> 00:42:15,920 The All-Saps and Her Block didn't work for the 806 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,510 Institute of International Education in 1934. 807 00:42:21,340 --> 00:42:22,750 Then I guess it's time. 808 00:42:23,869 --> 00:42:24,869 Okay. 809 00:42:25,489 --> 00:42:25,969 Bye. 810 00:42:26,329 --> 00:42:27,329 Bye. 811 00:42:27,889 --> 00:42:28,889 Bye. 812 00:42:29,210 --> 00:42:30,210 Bye. 813 00:42:34,329 --> 00:42:35,329 You worried? 814 00:42:36,769 --> 00:42:37,809 I didn't think I was. 815 00:42:39,139 --> 00:42:39,909 I don't know why. 816 00:42:40,150 --> 00:42:41,449 I was in the office on Friday. 817 00:42:41,909 --> 00:42:42,909 I answered the phone. 818 00:42:43,349 --> 00:42:44,769 It was Howard calling from London. 819 00:42:45,889 --> 00:42:48,690 He asked me what was going on with McCarthy and before I answered him, 820 00:42:49,264 --> 00:42:52,590 I turned and looked over my shoulder to see who was listening. 821 00:42:54,309 --> 00:42:55,309 Who was listening? 822 00:42:56,570 --> 00:42:57,570 Chairman Mao. 823 00:42:58,179 --> 00:43:00,949 Oh, Joe, your ring. 824 00:43:02,409 --> 00:43:03,449 Jesus Christ. 825 00:43:03,750 --> 00:43:06,148 Name me another wife who reminds her husband to take 826 00:43:06,150 --> 00:43:08,610 off his wedding ring before he goes to the office. 827 00:43:09,889 --> 00:43:10,889 Ava Gardner. 828 00:43:11,550 --> 00:43:12,550 Thirty seconds. 829 00:43:22,340 --> 00:43:23,340 Command. 830 00:43:24,420 --> 00:43:25,420 Get the brakes. 831 00:43:29,039 --> 00:43:29,639 Good evening. 832 00:43:29,641 --> 00:43:30,641 Twenty seconds. 833 00:43:30,679 --> 00:43:31,800 The new death break. 834 00:43:32,199 --> 00:43:34,641 The one hundred percent actually tear-dressing and conviction. 835 00:43:34,940 --> 00:43:37,340 Unpart for that old way didn't come and look. 836 00:43:37,860 --> 00:43:40,139 A man proved that no other man cared right in hand. 837 00:43:40,619 --> 00:43:41,619 Ten seconds. 838 00:43:41,739 --> 00:43:45,480 And every hair and hungry hair follows. 839 00:43:45,820 --> 00:43:46,820 In five. 840 00:43:47,340 --> 00:43:48,340 Four. 841 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:51,239 Two. 842 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,000 Good evening. 843 00:43:53,690 --> 00:43:55,699 Because a report on Senator Joseph R. 844 00:43:55,860 --> 00:44:00,179 McCarthy is by definition controversial, we want to say exactly what we mean and 845 00:44:00,380 --> 00:44:05,460 request permission to read from a script any remarks Murrow and friendly may make. 846 00:44:06,179 --> 00:44:09,599 If the senator feels that we have done violence to his words or pictures and he 847 00:44:09,601 --> 00:44:12,496 wishes to speak to answer himself, an opportunity 848 00:44:12,498 --> 00:44:15,141 will be afforded to him on this program. 849 00:44:15,635 --> 00:44:17,594 Our working thesis tonight is from this quotation. 850 00:44:18,559 --> 00:44:22,519 If this fight against communism has made a fight between America's two great 851 00:44:22,644 --> 00:44:26,199 political parties, the American people know that one of those parties will be 852 00:44:26,201 --> 00:44:29,800 destroyed and the republic cannot endure very long as a one-party system. 853 00:44:30,519 --> 00:44:31,559 We applaud that statement. 854 00:44:32,039 --> 00:44:33,655 We think Senator McCarthy should as well. 855 00:44:33,679 --> 00:44:35,920 He said it 17 months ago in Milwaukee. 856 00:44:37,735 --> 00:44:40,688 The American people realize that this cannot be made 857 00:44:40,688 --> 00:44:43,101 a fight between America's two great political parties. 858 00:44:44,059 --> 00:44:45,992 If this fight against communism has made a fight 859 00:44:45,994 --> 00:44:48,201 between America's two great political parties. 860 00:44:48,820 --> 00:44:52,800 the American people know that one of those parties will be destroyed and the republic 861 00:44:53,025 --> 00:44:55,519 can't endure very long as a one-party system. 862 00:44:56,659 --> 00:44:58,860 On one thing the senator has been consistent. 863 00:44:59,710 --> 00:45:03,460 Often acting as a one-man committee, he has traveled far, interviewed many, 864 00:45:04,119 --> 00:45:05,119 terrorized some. 865 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,219 Accused civilian and military leaders of the past administration of a great 866 00:45:09,221 --> 00:45:11,539 conspiracy to hand over the country to communism. 867 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:16,099 For a minute I thought that I was extremely shocked and I heard that the 868 00:45:16,101 --> 00:45:21,539 secretary, Stephen Loom, told the army officers that they had to take part in the 869 00:45:21,690 --> 00:45:24,179 cover-up of also promoted in Carolina. 870 00:45:25,559 --> 00:45:30,380 As I read his statement, I thought of that quotation. 871 00:45:31,429 --> 00:45:35,159 But me, that this our cesars feed. 872 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,800 And upon what meat does Senator McCarthy feed? 873 00:45:39,554 --> 00:45:42,393 Two of the staples of his diet are the investigations 874 00:45:42,394 --> 00:45:44,820 protected by immunity and the half-truth. 875 00:45:45,619 --> 00:45:49,239 You attended Columbia University in the early 30s. 876 00:45:49,380 --> 00:45:50,380 I did, Mr. Chairman. 877 00:45:50,724 --> 00:45:51,956 Could you pick a little out of there? 878 00:45:51,980 --> 00:45:52,980 I did, Mr. Chairman. 879 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,760 And were you exposed from Columbia? 880 00:45:59,039 --> 00:46:02,440 I was suspended from classes on April 1, 1932. 881 00:46:03,369 --> 00:46:04,820 I was later reinstated. 882 00:46:05,889 --> 00:46:07,291 And I resigned from the university. 883 00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:09,719 And you resigned from the university. 884 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:17,039 Did the Civil Liberties Union provide you with an attorney at that time? 885 00:46:18,340 --> 00:46:20,507 I had many officers of attorneys and one of those 886 00:46:20,509 --> 00:46:23,059 was from the Martin Civil Liberties Union, yes. 887 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,579 The question is, did the Civil Liberties Union supply you with an attorney? 888 00:46:26,929 --> 00:46:28,050 They did supply an attorney. 889 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:29,320 The answer is yes. 890 00:46:29,739 --> 00:46:30,739 The answer is yes. 891 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,103 You know, the Civil Liberties Union has been lifted as 892 00:46:34,103 --> 00:46:36,581 a front floor in doing the work of the Communist Party. 893 00:46:38,139 --> 00:46:39,659 Mr. Chairman, this was 1932. 894 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,559 Yeah, I know it was in 1932. 895 00:46:42,980 --> 00:46:45,333 You know, they sent up and looked as a front 896 00:46:45,335 --> 00:46:47,320 floor in doing the work of the Communist Party. 897 00:46:47,699 --> 00:46:49,920 I do not know if they have been listed so, sir. 898 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,295 You know, I know they haven't looked. 899 00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,760 I've heard that mention and read that mention. 900 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:55,340 You know, you wrote a book. 901 00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,800 In 1932, I'm going to ask you again. 902 00:46:59,050 --> 00:47:03,719 At the time you wrote this book, did you feel that the process should be 903 00:47:03,721 --> 00:47:11,619 given the right to teach sophomores that marriage, the quote, could be cast out of 904 00:47:11,621 --> 00:47:14,940 our total ability as antiquated and stupid? 905 00:47:15,460 --> 00:47:17,059 We're going to just put on a phenomenon. 906 00:47:17,269 --> 00:47:18,829 Well, that you're feeling at that time. 907 00:47:19,010 --> 00:47:23,219 My feeling was that professors should have the right to express their considered 908 00:47:23,221 --> 00:47:25,380 opinions on any subject, whatever they were. 909 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:27,559 I'm going to make you answer that. 910 00:47:27,940 --> 00:47:32,619 Well, I'll answer yes, but you put an implication on it and you feature this 911 00:47:32,621 --> 00:47:35,840 particular point out of a book which of course is quite out of context, 912 00:47:36,099 --> 00:47:38,739 does not give a proper impression of a book as a whole. 913 00:47:39,619 --> 00:47:42,496 The American public doesn't get an honest impression of 914 00:47:42,496 --> 00:47:44,981 even that book as it is from what you're quoting from it. 915 00:47:45,340 --> 00:47:49,920 The read here is here and illustrates one of the senator's techniques. 916 00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:55,280 Twice, he said the American Civil Liberties Union was listed as a subversive front. 917 00:47:55,389 --> 00:47:59,239 The Attorney General's list does not and never has listed the ACLU as subversive, 918 00:47:59,960 --> 00:48:03,139 nor has the FBI or any other federal government agency. 919 00:48:03,141 --> 00:48:07,559 And the ACLU holds in its files, letters of commendation from President 920 00:48:07,561 --> 00:48:10,559 Truman, President Eisenhower, and General MacArthur. 921 00:48:11,829 --> 00:48:16,219 Earlier, the senator asked, upon what meat does this our Caesar feed? 922 00:48:17,034 --> 00:48:20,119 Had he looked three lines earlier in Shakespeare's Caesar, he would have found 923 00:48:20,121 --> 00:48:22,159 this line, which is not altogether inappropriate. 924 00:48:23,230 --> 00:48:27,539 The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, but in ourselves. 925 00:48:28,869 --> 00:48:30,657 No one familiar with the history of this country 926 00:48:30,657 --> 00:48:32,880 can deny that congressional committees are useful. 927 00:48:33,539 --> 00:48:36,260 It is necessary to investigate before legislating. 928 00:48:36,815 --> 00:48:40,420 But the line between investigating and persecuting is a very fine one, 929 00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:44,360 and the junior senator from Wisconsin has stepped over it repeatedly. 930 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,500 We must not confuse dissent with this loyalty. 931 00:48:48,260 --> 00:48:50,760 We must remember always that accusation is not proof, and 932 00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,960 that conviction depends upon evidence and due process of law. 933 00:48:54,679 --> 00:48:56,840 We will not walk in fear, one of another. 934 00:48:57,465 --> 00:49:01,519 We will not be driven by fear into an age of unreason if we dig deep in our history 935 00:49:01,521 --> 00:49:04,739 and our doctrine, and remember that we are not descended from fearful men, 936 00:49:05,539 --> 00:49:08,670 not from men who fear to right, to speak, to associate, 937 00:49:08,672 --> 00:49:11,420 or to defend the causes that are for the moment unpopular. 938 00:49:12,630 --> 00:49:16,440 We proclaim ourselves as indeed we are the defenders of freedom, wherever it 939 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,318 continues to exist in the world, but we cannot 940 00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,860 defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home. 941 00:49:22,965 --> 00:49:27,199 The actions of the junior senator from Wisconsin have caused alarm in dismay 942 00:49:27,201 --> 00:49:31,500 amongst our allies abroad, and given considerable comfort to our enemies. 943 00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:33,480 And whose fault is that? 944 00:49:34,159 --> 00:49:35,159 Not really his. 945 00:49:36,110 --> 00:49:38,699 He didn't create this situation of fear. 946 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,739 He merely exploited it, and rather successfully. 947 00:49:43,340 --> 00:49:44,460 Cassius was right. 948 00:49:45,469 --> 00:49:49,420 The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, but in ourselves. 949 00:49:50,409 --> 00:49:51,760 Good night, and good luck. 950 00:49:58,250 --> 00:49:59,250 In your house. 951 00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:05,400 Good evening. 952 00:50:07,085 --> 00:50:10,239 I don't know whether all of you have seen what I just saw, but I want to associate 953 00:50:10,240 --> 00:50:12,806 myself and this program with what Ed Murrow has just 954 00:50:12,807 --> 00:50:15,239 said, and say that I've never been prouder of CBS. 955 00:50:17,059 --> 00:50:18,059 Another news. 956 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:19,400 You like a scotch? 957 00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:21,360 I think everybody could use one. 958 00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,260 Women have moved into another male domain. 959 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,711 In 20 United States cities, they proved themselves 960 00:50:27,713 --> 00:50:29,900 highly efficient in parking and traffic control. 961 00:50:30,099 --> 00:50:35,679 And the trends to the greater employment of traffic placement as women is rising. 962 00:50:36,820 --> 00:50:39,900 Many of the... 963 00:50:41,179 --> 00:50:47,260 Fritz, what time is 964 00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:04,320 it? 965 00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:07,400 Three thirty. 966 00:51:07,639 --> 00:51:09,079 Early editions are out now. 967 00:51:09,300 --> 00:51:10,760 No, I'm not worried about that. 968 00:51:10,980 --> 00:51:12,960 No, of course not. 969 00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,219 Hey, Cheryl, honey, run down and pick up the early editions. 970 00:51:16,780 --> 00:51:17,300 All of them? 971 00:51:17,599 --> 00:51:18,599 Just get a brine. 972 00:51:19,219 --> 00:51:20,480 Alright, watch my drink. 973 00:51:21,659 --> 00:51:22,940 Yeah, I'll go with you, Shirley. 974 00:51:28,780 --> 00:51:31,440 I'm going to have to fire, Joe, so those two can date, cigarette. 975 00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:33,320 I quit. 976 00:51:33,579 --> 00:51:34,579 Good time to quit. 977 00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:36,360 Yeah, but what could you do? 978 00:51:36,730 --> 00:51:38,769 Well, first we want to see if we have jobs tomorrow. 979 00:51:39,260 --> 00:51:43,920 And if we still have jobs tomorrow, then the tail gunner, Joe, gets to return fire. 980 00:51:44,300 --> 00:51:45,300 What's he going to say? 981 00:51:45,519 --> 00:51:49,860 He's going to say we're a pinko organization with a leftist agenda. 982 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:51,059 We used his own words. 983 00:51:51,659 --> 00:51:55,380 It's, uh... Well, we do have a leftist agenda. 984 00:51:57,090 --> 00:51:58,090 I'm a pinko. 985 00:52:00,469 --> 00:52:02,280 A little too loud there, Charlie. 986 00:52:04,170 --> 00:52:05,570 Not awfully quiet there, didn't it? 987 00:52:05,710 --> 00:52:07,179 We've got anything, Moss. 988 00:52:08,050 --> 00:52:10,639 We can have that together by next week, if need be. 989 00:52:10,820 --> 00:52:11,460 Is that a whole show? 990 00:52:11,820 --> 00:52:12,820 It's close. 991 00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:14,320 Listen, Ed. 992 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,179 There's not going to be a shortage of material on him. 993 00:52:18,500 --> 00:52:21,329 What we have to do now is keep up the pressure, 994 00:52:21,329 --> 00:52:24,400 kill his rebuttal, and then move to Calcutta. 995 00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:27,960 Sure do miss radio. 996 00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:30,059 You've got a face for radio. 997 00:52:31,739 --> 00:52:33,360 Well, my wife keeps telling me. 998 00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:34,739 Alright, here we go. 999 00:52:35,059 --> 00:52:36,059 We've got all of them. 1000 00:52:36,380 --> 00:52:37,860 The Post, The Times. 1001 00:52:38,079 --> 00:52:38,420 Who wrote it? 1002 00:52:38,639 --> 00:52:39,099 Jack Gould. 1003 00:52:39,460 --> 00:52:40,460 Oh! 1004 00:52:41,179 --> 00:52:41,800 Edward R. 1005 00:52:42,019 --> 00:52:45,739 Murrow's television program on Senator Joseph R. 1006 00:52:46,079 --> 00:52:50,739 McCarthy was an exciting and provocative examination of the man and his methods. 1007 00:52:51,599 --> 00:52:58,219 It was crusading journalism of high responsibility and courage for TV so often 1008 00:52:58,369 --> 00:52:59,980 plagued by timidity and hesitation. 1009 00:52:59,981 --> 00:53:03,239 The program was a milestone that reflected enlightened citizenship. 1010 00:53:09,659 --> 00:53:14,360 The program was no less an indictment of those who wish the problems posed by the 1011 00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:18,579 Senator's tactics, and theatrics, would just go away and leave them alone. 1012 00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,480 That was Mr. Murrow's and television's triumph and a very great one. 1013 00:53:24,860 --> 00:53:26,800 The Times are about the scuttling. 1014 00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,579 How do you think we got that review? 1015 00:53:31,500 --> 00:53:32,900 What about The Post? 1016 00:53:33,139 --> 00:53:34,500 It is pretty good. 1017 00:53:34,985 --> 00:53:36,000 What about O'Brien? 1018 00:53:36,639 --> 00:53:37,639 The same. 1019 00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:40,380 Julie, what did O'Brien say? 1020 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:42,280 Oh, I don't have it. 1021 00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:43,760 Joe, what about you? 1022 00:53:43,980 --> 00:53:44,980 Oh, I know. 1023 00:53:45,215 --> 00:53:46,215 I'd say here somewhere. 1024 00:53:47,659 --> 00:53:48,659 Okay. 1025 00:53:50,780 --> 00:53:51,780 Hang on. 1026 00:53:52,179 --> 00:53:53,179 Okay. 1027 00:53:53,699 --> 00:53:54,380 Jack O'Brien. 1028 00:53:54,380 --> 00:53:58,559 We can't say we were surprised that Edward R. 1029 00:53:58,739 --> 00:54:04,039 Murrow's hate McCarthy telecast last evening, when his explosively one-sided 1030 00:54:04,139 --> 00:54:07,880 propaganda edited with deviously clever selectivity for 1031 00:54:07,882 --> 00:54:11,500 McCarthy's march against communism was finished last evening. 1032 00:54:12,260 --> 00:54:15,134 By equally Machiavellian coincidence, the following 1033 00:54:15,184 --> 00:54:18,119 telecast featured Murrow's PM protege, Don Hollenbeck. 1034 00:54:19,579 --> 00:54:24,579 In an obviously gloating mood, Hollenbeck hoped viewers had witnessed his 1035 00:54:24,730 --> 00:54:26,400 patrons triumph from and for the left. 1036 00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:29,260 And so on and so on. 1037 00:54:29,420 --> 00:54:31,519 I guess O'Brien doesn't like scotch. 1038 00:54:32,579 --> 00:54:34,019 It's okay, Shirley, finish it. 1039 00:54:34,159 --> 00:54:35,460 Shirley, read The Post, huh? 1040 00:54:36,300 --> 00:54:37,300 That's it, Don. 1041 00:54:37,380 --> 00:54:39,260 It's just... Shirley, finish it. 1042 00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:40,920 That's it, Don. 1043 00:54:41,199 --> 00:54:42,199 That's it. 1044 00:54:45,699 --> 00:54:46,699 Okay. 1045 00:54:48,489 --> 00:54:52,420 The Columbia Broadcasting System has been in a lengthy clean house of Lefty's mood. 1046 00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:56,199 The worst offenders on lesser levels have been quietly pushed out of the company. 1047 00:54:57,059 --> 00:55:01,739 Don Hollenbeck, a graduate of the Demised Pinko, publication PM, attacked 1048 00:55:02,039 --> 00:55:04,480 conservative newspapers with sly and slanted propaganda. 1049 00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,519 He then proceeded through an equally tilted review of the day's events with 1050 00:55:08,570 --> 00:55:11,519 McCarthy dominating his words, actions, attitude, and camera. 1051 00:55:13,820 --> 00:55:14,820 It's O'Brien. 1052 00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:17,559 I think I'll have that cigarette, Ed. 1053 00:55:17,561 --> 00:55:18,561 No. 1054 00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:21,280 I'm heading out. 1055 00:55:21,639 --> 00:55:22,019 Yeah. 1056 00:55:22,500 --> 00:55:25,000 Got a staff meeting in five hours. 1057 00:55:25,199 --> 00:55:26,199 Whoa! 1058 00:55:26,340 --> 00:55:26,820 Whoa! 1059 00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:28,000 It is late. 1060 00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,159 Do you want to share a cab? 1061 00:55:32,019 --> 00:55:33,019 Oh, yeah. 1062 00:55:33,159 --> 00:55:33,699 You headed downtown? 1063 00:55:34,139 --> 00:55:34,280 Yes. 1064 00:55:34,909 --> 00:55:35,990 Where do you live, Shirley? 1065 00:55:36,260 --> 00:55:36,440 Oh, no. 1066 00:55:36,559 --> 00:55:37,559 She lives downtown. 1067 00:55:39,639 --> 00:55:40,860 Hang in there, Don. 1068 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:41,960 See ya, boys. 1069 00:55:42,519 --> 00:55:43,519 See ya. 1070 00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:44,840 See ya, Ed. 1071 00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:45,199 You're done. 1072 00:55:45,201 --> 00:55:46,320 I appreciate it. 1073 00:55:46,519 --> 00:55:47,719 It's a big day tomorrow. 1074 00:55:48,199 --> 00:55:49,219 Yeah, today, you mean? 1075 00:55:49,599 --> 00:55:49,619 Huh? 1076 00:55:50,039 --> 00:55:50,519 We're drinking. 1077 00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:51,000 We're drinking. 1078 00:55:51,619 --> 00:55:52,619 We're drinking. 1079 00:55:52,780 --> 00:55:56,960 Sorry, I missed you the other night, Don. 1080 00:56:00,710 --> 00:56:02,059 I need to ask you something, Ed. 1081 00:56:03,539 --> 00:56:04,539 It's about O'Brien. 1082 00:56:04,679 --> 00:56:05,936 O'Brien doesn't miss killing me. 1083 00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:07,675 He doesn't make a bit of difference in the news. 1084 00:56:07,699 --> 00:56:07,739 It's not just him. 1085 00:56:08,139 --> 00:56:09,420 We have to let this guy have it. 1086 00:56:09,500 --> 00:56:11,380 We're not gonna go after O'Brien. 1087 00:56:11,519 --> 00:56:13,599 I'm not gonna take on McCarthy and Hearst. 1088 00:56:14,059 --> 00:56:15,059 I can't beat them both. 1089 00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:16,539 Don't read the paper, Don. 1090 00:56:16,541 --> 00:56:18,840 Or don't read O'Brien anyway. 1091 00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:28,000 No, I guess not. 1092 00:56:49,090 --> 00:56:53,659 I wake up in the morning and I don't recognize anything. 1093 00:56:56,440 --> 00:57:00,679 I feel like I went to sleep three years ago and somebody hijacked them. 1094 00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:05,840 As if all the reasonable people took a plane to Europe and left us behind. 1095 00:57:24,199 --> 00:57:30,230 I was always... I was always an optimist. 1096 00:57:30,789 --> 00:57:31,789 Really? 1097 00:57:32,070 --> 00:57:33,590 I always thought things work out. 1098 00:57:34,730 --> 00:57:35,730 Half full. 1099 00:57:37,710 --> 00:57:38,710 Yeah. 1100 00:57:41,449 --> 00:57:43,489 I believe in the system, though. 1101 00:57:44,550 --> 00:57:47,750 As disastrous as it can seem at times, I believe in it. 1102 00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:50,889 We designed it to fix it. 1103 00:57:52,489 --> 00:57:55,409 Madison built it into the Constitution for Christ's sake. 1104 00:57:55,411 --> 00:57:58,489 I was talking about my divorce. 1105 00:58:00,289 --> 00:58:01,289 So was I. 1106 00:58:03,309 --> 00:58:08,389 Well, I'm glad the forefathers understood the term dissolution of a union. 1107 00:58:09,199 --> 00:58:11,650 Sure, they had their difficulties with the opposite sex. 1108 00:58:12,809 --> 00:58:13,891 I'm talking about McCarthy. 1109 00:58:15,070 --> 00:58:16,070 So was I. 1110 00:58:18,010 --> 00:58:19,010 Well, 1111 00:58:22,170 --> 00:58:23,170 I thought I'd try. 1112 00:58:25,510 --> 00:58:26,510 Sorry, Doc. 1113 00:58:28,739 --> 00:58:30,610 We never had this conversation, okay? 1114 00:58:32,289 --> 00:58:33,411 It's okay with you, Senator. 1115 00:58:35,090 --> 00:58:35,650 Don't laugh. 1116 00:58:35,849 --> 00:58:36,849 I've thought about it. 1117 00:58:37,590 --> 00:58:38,590 Prom 1118 00:58:59,579 --> 00:59:00,719 to the old forty-one. 1119 00:59:00,860 --> 00:59:02,019 Thanks for New York. 1120 00:59:02,199 --> 00:59:02,380 Good evening. 1121 00:59:02,539 --> 00:59:02,639 Good evening. 1122 00:59:02,719 --> 00:59:04,099 How long for that new copy? 1123 00:59:04,699 --> 00:59:05,239 Just give me an hour. 1124 00:59:05,659 --> 00:59:06,659 It's going to be an hour. 1125 00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:08,039 You trying to get it all night? 1126 00:59:08,159 --> 00:59:09,159 We got a deadline. 1127 00:59:09,739 --> 00:59:11,059 We just got back from D.C. 1128 00:59:12,460 --> 00:59:15,159 Just look at Acts, the McCarthy at the Pentagon hearing. 1129 00:59:15,380 --> 00:59:16,400 He called McCarthy evil. 1130 00:59:16,639 --> 00:59:17,119 Who did? 1131 00:59:17,420 --> 00:59:18,420 Senator McClellan. 1132 00:59:18,519 --> 00:59:20,099 He's sitting two seats down. 1133 00:59:20,119 --> 00:59:21,440 I've got to get this to the land. 1134 00:59:22,159 --> 00:59:23,159 He calls him evil. 1135 00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:23,880 Wait, who's evil? 1136 00:59:24,239 --> 00:59:25,239 You get it on camera? 1137 00:59:25,559 --> 00:59:26,820 Yeah, I think we do. 1138 00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:27,920 Wait, who is evil? 1139 00:59:28,219 --> 00:59:29,219 Oh, Eddie. 1140 00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:30,840 I can hear you. 1141 00:59:31,579 --> 00:59:32,739 What are they doing in there? 1142 00:59:33,539 --> 00:59:34,619 Rewriting the Constitution. 1143 00:59:35,019 --> 00:59:36,340 They were there for the original. 1144 00:59:37,139 --> 00:59:38,139 Hold on, Joe. 1145 00:59:38,239 --> 00:59:40,079 Palmer, can I talk to you for a minute? 1146 00:59:40,179 --> 00:59:41,179 Yeah, sure, Fred. 1147 00:59:41,519 --> 00:59:42,519 Let me second one. 1148 00:59:42,559 --> 00:59:42,780 Fred? 1149 00:59:43,380 --> 00:59:43,719 Yeah. 1150 00:59:44,019 --> 00:59:45,019 Fellas. 1151 00:59:45,599 --> 00:59:46,880 McCarthy's office just called. 1152 00:59:47,885 --> 00:59:48,885 He wants equal time. 1153 00:59:49,340 --> 00:59:49,579 When? 1154 00:59:50,300 --> 00:59:51,300 April 6th. 1155 00:59:51,500 --> 00:59:51,760 In studio. 1156 00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:53,840 He wants to film it in his office. 1157 00:59:54,059 --> 00:59:55,059 Who? 1158 00:59:57,159 --> 00:59:58,199 Jesus Christ. 1159 00:59:58,780 --> 01:00:00,579 They told me Buckley wanted to respond. 1160 01:00:01,079 --> 01:00:02,079 No. 1161 01:00:04,639 --> 01:00:06,380 But are they going to let Charlie? 1162 01:00:06,460 --> 01:00:07,039 What's he going to say? 1163 01:00:07,041 --> 01:00:11,139 You know what it's going to be. 1164 01:00:11,239 --> 01:00:12,360 He's going to come after me. 1165 01:00:12,519 --> 01:00:13,719 It's the only thing he can do. 1166 01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,559 He's going to bet that a senator trumps a newsman. 1167 01:00:17,199 --> 01:00:18,199 He'll lose. 1168 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:21,280 Maybe. 1169 01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:24,079 Okay, fellas. 1170 01:00:24,179 --> 01:00:24,659 Here we go. 1171 01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:25,539 Joe Cole Stanton. 1172 01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:26,880 Let him know. 1173 01:00:27,300 --> 01:00:29,099 John, let's see all the guys in our footage. 1174 01:00:29,639 --> 01:00:31,079 We need to pepper his spots. 1175 01:00:31,619 --> 01:00:32,619 Yep. 1176 01:00:33,940 --> 01:00:34,300 Phil. 1177 01:00:34,340 --> 01:00:36,619 He wants to have a word with you. 1178 01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:39,000 Okay. 1179 01:00:39,219 --> 01:00:39,780 Now? 1180 01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:40,380 Yes. 1181 01:00:40,869 --> 01:00:41,869 Now is best. 1182 01:00:43,469 --> 01:00:45,460 Never very good news, is it? 1183 01:00:47,719 --> 01:00:48,719 Not often. 1184 01:01:03,750 --> 01:01:05,311 Can you connect me with Phil and legal? 1185 01:01:08,559 --> 01:01:09,559 Mr. Williams. 1186 01:01:10,090 --> 01:01:11,090 Guilty. 1187 01:01:12,150 --> 01:01:13,150 Let's hope not. 1188 01:01:14,530 --> 01:01:16,429 There isn't a lot of time, so I'll be brief. 1189 01:01:18,010 --> 01:01:21,150 This network is under a tremendous amount of pressure. 1190 01:01:21,610 --> 01:01:22,646 These stories aren't helping. 1191 01:01:22,670 --> 01:01:23,670 I understand. 1192 01:01:23,989 --> 01:01:24,989 I'm not sure you do. 1193 01:01:26,110 --> 01:01:29,269 There's a great deal of concern about your past positions. 1194 01:01:29,989 --> 01:01:31,289 My wife's past positions? 1195 01:01:31,670 --> 01:01:32,670 That's right. 1196 01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:35,369 FUAC has a file on you. 1197 01:01:37,489 --> 01:01:38,230 How do you know? 1198 01:01:38,349 --> 01:01:39,909 A file was sent to Mr. Paley yesterday. 1199 01:01:41,309 --> 01:01:42,590 Well, that's interesting timing. 1200 01:01:42,849 --> 01:01:44,130 Well, when you strike it a king. 1201 01:01:44,235 --> 01:01:46,050 Or a junior senator from Wisconsin? 1202 01:01:50,190 --> 01:01:51,750 CBS has prepared to make an offer. 1203 01:01:52,489 --> 01:01:52,869 Uh-oh. 1204 01:01:53,010 --> 01:01:55,478 If you submit your resignation, CBS will cover any 1205 01:01:55,478 --> 01:01:57,451 legal expenses you might incur on this subject. 1206 01:01:58,170 --> 01:01:59,309 That's awfully kind of you. 1207 01:01:59,429 --> 01:01:59,789 No, it isn't. 1208 01:01:59,989 --> 01:02:00,989 No, it isn't. 1209 01:02:02,130 --> 01:02:03,449 These guys don't play around. 1210 01:02:04,420 --> 01:02:05,420 They're relentless. 1211 01:02:05,849 --> 01:02:06,849 They will cost you. 1212 01:02:07,769 --> 01:02:08,769 Everything you have. 1213 01:02:10,070 --> 01:02:11,070 I understand. 1214 01:02:14,510 --> 01:02:15,510 Do you? 1215 01:02:17,150 --> 01:02:18,150 Palmer. 1216 01:02:18,789 --> 01:02:19,789 Take the deal. 1217 01:02:21,130 --> 01:02:23,909 If these guys decide to call you in, we will cut you loose. 1218 01:02:24,869 --> 01:02:26,186 And then no one will be there to help. 1219 01:02:26,210 --> 01:02:27,210 Not CBS. 1220 01:02:27,690 --> 01:02:28,690 Not world. 1221 01:02:29,650 --> 01:02:30,650 No one. 1222 01:02:37,179 --> 01:02:38,179 Phil, you're a good guy. 1223 01:02:40,070 --> 01:02:42,329 And I appreciate that this is your job. 1224 01:02:44,829 --> 01:02:47,789 But what you're asking me to do, I could never do. 1225 01:02:50,909 --> 01:02:51,909 I understand. 1226 01:02:56,119 --> 01:02:59,010 It was funny how your life can be upended just for telling the truth. 1227 01:02:59,210 --> 01:03:00,306 And marrying the Communists. 1228 01:03:00,329 --> 01:03:01,329 Oh, yeah, there is that. 1229 01:03:03,170 --> 01:03:04,170 Be careful. 1230 01:03:05,130 --> 01:03:06,130 Yeah. 1231 01:03:07,829 --> 01:03:08,829 Ed. 1232 01:03:11,150 --> 01:03:12,210 It's 28 minutes. 1233 01:03:12,510 --> 01:03:13,869 I could clip a little off the end. 1234 01:03:14,389 --> 01:03:15,750 I think we have to leave it alone. 1235 01:03:16,489 --> 01:03:17,269 Very smart. 1236 01:03:17,489 --> 01:03:18,170 No time for comment. 1237 01:03:18,449 --> 01:03:19,690 Came in 10 minutes ago. 1238 01:03:19,929 --> 01:03:22,590 And we put it up for the first couple of minutes. 1239 01:03:23,730 --> 01:03:24,730 You're right. 1240 01:03:25,190 --> 01:03:26,190 It's coming after me. 1241 01:03:27,090 --> 01:03:28,090 Okay. 1242 01:03:28,349 --> 01:03:29,349 Thanks. 1243 01:03:31,449 --> 01:03:33,050 Charlie, have you seen the latest polls? 1244 01:03:33,885 --> 01:03:36,170 The most trusted man in America is Milton Burl. 1245 01:03:38,130 --> 01:03:39,670 Maybe he should do the story. 1246 01:03:41,289 --> 01:03:42,289 Hey, Fred. 1247 01:03:42,530 --> 01:03:45,409 What say we grab a little dinner after the show? 1248 01:03:45,690 --> 01:03:46,690 The 21 Club? 1249 01:03:47,130 --> 01:03:47,550 Sure. 1250 01:03:47,929 --> 01:03:49,610 45 seconds to air. 1251 01:03:52,250 --> 01:03:54,630 Look, there's nothing fun about this one. 1252 01:03:55,340 --> 01:03:57,978 You just gotta put your gloves down, stick your 1253 01:03:57,980 --> 01:04:00,771 chin out, and just take it for a whole round. 1254 01:04:00,929 --> 01:04:01,929 Next week's our round. 1255 01:04:02,829 --> 01:04:03,949 I'll make it up off the mat. 1256 01:04:04,349 --> 01:04:04,750 You will. 1257 01:04:05,369 --> 01:04:06,369 30 seconds. 1258 01:04:06,690 --> 01:04:10,570 Because those ripped, hard-working studs are eyes and eyes. 1259 01:04:11,369 --> 01:04:14,170 99 and 44, 100 seconds to air. 1260 01:04:14,909 --> 01:04:15,909 For all your distance. 1261 01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:17,320 20 seconds. 1262 01:04:17,369 --> 01:04:17,690 In the world. 1263 01:04:17,909 --> 01:04:19,710 Wonderful ivory snow. 1264 01:04:20,550 --> 01:04:21,730 Because it's the only snow. 1265 01:04:21,969 --> 01:04:24,550 Both ivory miles for kindness to your hand. 1266 01:04:25,329 --> 01:04:27,630 And granulated for speed in your distance. 1267 01:04:27,909 --> 01:04:28,909 10 seconds. 1268 01:04:29,070 --> 01:04:30,469 For speed in your distance walking. 1269 01:04:30,730 --> 01:04:31,849 But nobody can. 1270 01:04:32,750 --> 01:04:32,869 Wonderful. 1271 01:04:33,530 --> 01:04:34,530 In five. 1272 01:04:35,050 --> 01:04:36,050 Four. 1273 01:04:37,230 --> 01:04:38,230 Two. 1274 01:04:39,110 --> 01:04:40,110 Good evening. 1275 01:04:40,170 --> 01:04:44,170 One month ago tonight we presented our report on Senator Joseph Armacarti. 1276 01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:46,121 We labeled it as controversial. 1277 01:04:46,630 --> 01:04:50,469 Most of that report consisted of words and pictures of the Senator. 1278 01:04:50,855 --> 01:04:54,610 At the time we told the Senator that if he feels that we have done violence to his 1279 01:04:54,610 --> 01:04:57,965 words or pictures, and he wishes to speak to answer himself, 1280 01:04:57,967 --> 01:05:00,431 an opportunity would be afforded to him on this program. 1281 01:05:01,059 --> 01:05:02,809 The Senator sought that opportunity. 1282 01:05:03,574 --> 01:05:05,585 Asked for a three-week delay because he said he was 1283 01:05:05,586 --> 01:05:08,170 very busy and wished adequate time to prepare his reply. 1284 01:05:08,170 --> 01:05:09,190 We agreed. 1285 01:05:10,105 --> 01:05:13,849 We placed no restrictions on the method or manner of the presentation of his reply, 1286 01:05:14,405 --> 01:05:17,269 and suggested that we would not take time for comment on this program. 1287 01:05:18,389 --> 01:05:21,929 Here now is Senator Joseph Armacarti, Jr. Senator from Wisconsin. 1288 01:05:23,889 --> 01:05:24,889 Good evening. 1289 01:05:25,550 --> 01:05:26,389 Mr. Edward R. 1290 01:05:26,570 --> 01:05:32,150 Murrow, educational director of the Columbia Broadcasting System, devoted his 1291 01:05:32,150 --> 01:05:37,130 program to an attack on the work of the United States Senate Investing in Committee. 1292 01:05:37,610 --> 01:05:39,289 And on me personally as its chairman. 1293 01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:42,146 Now ordinarily, ordinarily I would not take time 1294 01:05:42,146 --> 01:05:46,190 out for the important work at hand to answer Murrow. 1295 01:05:47,090 --> 01:05:52,230 However, in this case, I feel justified in doing so because Murrow is the symbol, 1296 01:05:53,269 --> 01:05:59,150 the leader, and the cleverest of the jackal pack, which is always found at the 1297 01:05:59,150 --> 01:06:03,690 throat of anyone who dares to expose individual communists and treasures. 1298 01:06:05,519 --> 01:06:09,449 And I am compelled by the fact to say to you that Mr. Edward R. 1299 01:06:09,750 --> 01:06:16,590 Murrow, as far back as 20 years ago, was engaged in propaganda for communist 1300 01:06:16,590 --> 01:06:22,929 causes, for example, the Institute of International Education, of which he was 1301 01:06:23,469 --> 01:06:31,469 the acting director, was chosen to act as a representative by a Soviet agency to do 1302 01:06:31,471 --> 01:06:35,849 a job which would normally be done by the Russian secret police. 1303 01:06:36,730 --> 01:06:39,869 Now, Mr. Murrow, by his own admission, was a member of the IWW. 1304 01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:42,121 That's the industrial workers of the world. 1305 01:06:43,059 --> 01:06:45,853 A terrorist organization cited as subversive 1306 01:06:45,853 --> 01:06:48,751 by an attorney general of the United States. 1307 01:06:49,420 --> 01:06:55,110 Now, Mr. Murrow said in this program, and I quote, he said, the actions of the 1308 01:06:55,110 --> 01:07:02,250 junior senator from Wisconsin have given considerable comfort to the enemy. 1309 01:07:03,505 --> 01:07:06,889 That is the language of our statutory, rather strong language. 1310 01:07:08,034 --> 01:07:12,809 If I am giving comfort to our enemies, I ought not to be in the Senate. 1311 01:07:13,744 --> 01:07:17,369 If, on the other hand, Mr. Murrow is giving comfort to our enemies. 1312 01:07:18,369 --> 01:07:21,268 He ought not to be brought into the home of millions 1313 01:07:21,269 --> 01:07:24,269 of Americans by the Columbia Broadcasting System. 1314 01:07:25,170 --> 01:07:29,710 But this is a question, which can be resolved with pleasure. 1315 01:07:32,570 --> 01:07:35,309 I have to go to Philadelphia in the morning. 1316 01:07:36,980 --> 01:07:37,980 What time is your train? 1317 01:07:38,929 --> 01:07:39,929 Hey. 1318 01:07:40,380 --> 01:07:41,501 It's Charlie going with you? 1319 01:07:42,230 --> 01:07:43,230 Mm-hmm. 1320 01:07:48,599 --> 01:07:49,710 I don't. 1321 01:07:51,260 --> 01:07:56,530 I just want to say what I'm about to say. 1322 01:07:57,590 --> 01:07:58,590 Uh-oh. 1323 01:07:58,690 --> 01:07:58,969 Yeah. 1324 01:07:59,690 --> 01:08:00,690 You want a divorce? 1325 01:08:01,610 --> 01:08:02,610 No. 1326 01:08:03,090 --> 01:08:04,090 Do you? 1327 01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:07,201 Depends on what you're about to say. 1328 01:08:09,849 --> 01:08:14,949 Just keep having this nagging thought that we might be wrong. 1329 01:08:16,170 --> 01:08:17,170 About what? 1330 01:08:17,630 --> 01:08:18,630 Wow. 1331 01:08:19,399 --> 01:08:20,449 There are communists here. 1332 01:08:20,890 --> 01:08:21,229 Yes. 1333 01:08:21,449 --> 01:08:23,649 They don't always have our best interests at heart. 1334 01:08:23,949 --> 01:08:24,569 Probably not. 1335 01:08:24,710 --> 01:08:24,810 Yeah. 1336 01:08:25,159 --> 01:08:27,251 Does McCarthy... Whoa. 1337 01:08:28,170 --> 01:08:29,369 The argument could be made. 1338 01:08:31,090 --> 01:08:32,170 It is for the greater good. 1339 01:08:33,699 --> 01:08:34,699 That's one argument. 1340 01:08:34,890 --> 01:08:38,289 The Alginess was... Alginess had a trial. 1341 01:08:39,470 --> 01:08:41,329 Alginess faced his accusers. 1342 01:08:42,430 --> 01:08:43,449 It went to jail. 1343 01:08:43,729 --> 01:08:44,729 That's right. 1344 01:08:45,310 --> 01:08:46,310 That's how this works. 1345 01:08:51,789 --> 01:08:56,229 We're not going to look back and say we protected the wrong side. 1346 01:08:58,310 --> 01:08:59,310 You're right, Joe. 1347 01:08:59,750 --> 01:09:00,750 Yeah. 1348 01:09:03,229 --> 01:09:04,229 I want a divorce. 1349 01:09:05,949 --> 01:09:07,489 Yeah, I wouldn't blame you. 1350 01:09:09,710 --> 01:09:10,791 When did you start smoking? 1351 01:09:12,649 --> 01:09:13,649 15 minutes ago. 1352 01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:17,720 Good evening. 1353 01:09:18,199 --> 01:09:23,119 Last week, Senator McCarthy appeared on this program to correct any errors he 1354 01:09:23,121 --> 01:09:25,699 might have thought we made in our report of March 9th. 1355 01:09:26,319 --> 01:09:28,859 Since he made no reference to any statements of fact, 1356 01:09:28,859 --> 01:09:32,000 we must conclude that he found no errors of fact. 1357 01:09:33,020 --> 01:09:38,000 He proved, once again, that anyone who exposes him, anyone who does not share his 1358 01:09:38,001 --> 01:09:42,380 hysterical disregard to decency and human dignity and the rights guaranteed in the 1359 01:09:42,381 --> 01:09:46,000 Constitution, must be either a communist or a fellow traveler. 1360 01:09:47,090 --> 01:09:48,371 I fully expected this treatment. 1361 01:09:49,390 --> 01:09:53,060 The senator added this reporter's name to a long list of individuals and 1362 01:09:53,159 --> 01:09:56,319 institutions that he has accused of serving the Communist cause. 1363 01:09:57,189 --> 01:09:59,380 His proposition is a very simple one. 1364 01:09:59,939 --> 01:10:04,340 Anyone who criticizes or opposes McCarthy's methods must be a communist. 1365 01:10:05,020 --> 01:10:07,939 And if that be true, there are an awful lot of communists in this country. 1366 01:10:08,859 --> 01:10:12,260 For the record, let us consider briefly some of the senator's charges. 1367 01:10:13,220 --> 01:10:15,311 He claimed but offered no proof that I was a 1368 01:10:15,313 --> 01:10:17,380 member of the industrial workers of the world. 1369 01:10:17,381 --> 01:10:18,381 That is false. 1370 01:10:18,819 --> 01:10:20,300 I never was a member of the IWW. 1371 01:10:21,039 --> 01:10:22,201 Never applied for membership. 1372 01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:26,859 The senator charged that Professor Harold Lasky, a British scholar and politician, 1373 01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:28,439 dedicated a book to me. 1374 01:10:28,500 --> 01:10:28,899 That is true. 1375 01:10:29,399 --> 01:10:30,399 He is dead. 1376 01:10:30,539 --> 01:10:31,220 He was a socialist. 1377 01:10:31,500 --> 01:10:32,500 I am not. 1378 01:10:32,619 --> 01:10:36,640 He was one of those civilized individuals who didn't insist upon agreement with 1379 01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:39,800 political principles as a precondition for friendship or conversation. 1380 01:10:40,895 --> 01:10:42,579 I don't agree with his political ideas. 1381 01:10:43,470 --> 01:10:47,260 Lasky, as he makes clear in the introduction, dedicated the book to me not 1382 01:10:47,261 --> 01:10:49,722 because of political agreement, but because he held 1383 01:10:49,724 --> 01:10:52,439 my wartime broadcasts from London in high regard. 1384 01:10:53,359 --> 01:10:54,479 And the dedication so reads. 1385 01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:59,500 I believe 20 years ago, and I believe today, that mature Americans can engage in 1386 01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:03,399 conversation, controversy, a clash of ideas with communists anywhere in the 1387 01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:05,800 world without becoming contaminated or converted. 1388 01:11:05,801 --> 01:11:10,039 I believe that our faith, our conviction, our determination are stronger than 1389 01:11:10,041 --> 01:11:14,420 theirs, and that we can compete and successfully, not only in the area of 1390 01:11:14,545 --> 01:11:16,659 bombs, but in the area of ideas. 1391 01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:20,479 I have worked for CBS for 19 years. 1392 01:11:21,414 --> 01:11:24,594 The company is subscribed fully to my integrity 1393 01:11:24,595 --> 01:11:27,900 as a broadcaster and as a loyal American. 1394 01:11:28,850 --> 01:11:31,560 I require no lectures from the junior senator from Wisconsin. 1395 01:11:33,180 --> 01:11:36,779 Having searched my conscience and my files, I cannot contend that I have always 1396 01:11:36,780 --> 01:11:40,619 been right or wise, but I have attempted to pursue the truth with some diligence 1397 01:11:40,621 --> 01:11:44,720 and to report it, even though, as in this case, I had been warned in 1398 01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:48,159 advance that I would be subjected to the attentions of Senator McCarthy. 1399 01:11:49,435 --> 01:11:51,657 We should hope to deal with matters of more vital interest 1400 01:11:51,658 --> 01:11:54,380 to the country next week, good night, and good luck. 1401 01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:18,640 Good morning. 1402 01:12:19,819 --> 01:12:20,819 How are you feeling? 1403 01:12:21,340 --> 01:12:21,640 How am I? 1404 01:12:22,260 --> 01:12:23,260 How are you feeling? 1405 01:12:23,739 --> 01:12:25,140 What time did you leave last night? 1406 01:12:25,279 --> 01:12:26,659 She didn't leave last night. 1407 01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:28,079 I didn't leave this morning. 1408 01:12:29,039 --> 01:12:30,380 It's just this today. 1409 01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:31,880 Oh, just this. 1410 01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:37,659 Somewhere there's music. 1411 01:12:39,079 --> 01:12:40,380 How faint the tune. 1412 01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:43,260 Somewhere there's heaven. 1413 01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:45,859 How high the moon. 1414 01:12:48,069 --> 01:12:49,720 What time are we going till today? 1415 01:12:51,300 --> 01:12:53,180 I'll get back to you in a minute. 1416 01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:55,800 We'll be here. 1417 01:12:57,050 --> 01:13:01,265 In the last analysis, the senator was perched on the television 1418 01:13:01,266 --> 01:13:04,199 high dive and all prepared to make a resounding splash. 1419 01:13:05,020 --> 01:13:11,159 He jumped beautifully, but neglected to check first where he was going to land. 1420 01:13:12,289 --> 01:13:14,947 It must have been something of a shock to discover 1421 01:13:14,948 --> 01:13:17,699 that Mr. Murrow had drained the water out of the pool. 1422 01:13:19,319 --> 01:13:20,319 Jack Moore. 1423 01:13:20,939 --> 01:13:21,939 Yeah, the times. 1424 01:13:22,390 --> 01:13:24,640 The hell of a writer. 1425 01:13:25,359 --> 01:13:26,695 We should hire him away from the time. 1426 01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:32,439 Yeah, well, CBS has got a public opinion survey here that Elmo Roper put together 1427 01:13:32,440 --> 01:13:38,359 says 33% of all households believe McCarthy proved your economy. 1428 01:13:38,609 --> 01:13:40,380 Only 33%. 1429 01:13:40,381 --> 01:13:42,539 Listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen. 1430 01:13:44,890 --> 01:13:46,560 The senate is investigating McCarthy. 1431 01:13:49,029 --> 01:13:50,029 Hey! 1432 01:13:53,399 --> 01:13:54,800 Shut up. 1433 01:13:55,460 --> 01:13:55,800 Oh! 1434 01:13:56,340 --> 01:13:57,340 Oh! 1435 01:13:58,899 --> 01:13:59,960 Oh, oh. 1436 01:14:02,460 --> 01:14:03,579 You'll be all right, Palmer. 1437 01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:05,060 You'll be all right, Palmer. 1438 01:14:05,060 --> 01:14:06,060 You'll be all right. 1439 01:14:09,500 --> 01:14:10,859 You'll be all right. 1440 01:14:10,860 --> 01:14:12,020 We're investigating McCarthy. 1441 01:14:12,060 --> 01:14:14,199 We're up there with how do you do it? 1442 01:14:14,340 --> 01:14:15,340 Hold on, Ed. 1443 01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:20,619 Somewhere there's music. 1444 01:14:23,140 --> 01:14:25,840 How faint the tune. 1445 01:14:29,100 --> 01:14:31,800 Somewhere there's heaven. 1446 01:14:34,909 --> 01:14:37,819 How high the moon. 1447 01:14:42,630 --> 01:14:47,840 There is no moon. 1448 01:14:48,319 --> 01:14:49,319 Above. 1449 01:14:50,770 --> 01:14:55,680 When love is far away too. 1450 01:15:00,199 --> 01:15:03,119 Until it comes true. 1451 01:15:07,470 --> 01:15:11,159 That you love me. 1452 01:15:12,314 --> 01:15:14,800 As I love you. 1453 01:15:20,130 --> 01:15:24,510 One of the best programs I ever heard was called CBS Views the Press. 1454 01:15:25,329 --> 01:15:27,011 A great many people liked it, some didn't. 1455 01:15:27,590 --> 01:15:29,470 But no one would say it was anything but honest. 1456 01:15:30,170 --> 01:15:32,289 It was the work of an honest reporter, Don Hollenbank. 1457 01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:34,489 He also worked occasionally on See It Now. 1458 01:15:35,534 --> 01:15:36,689 He did the 11 p.m. 1459 01:15:36,770 --> 01:15:38,090 news over some of these stations. 1460 01:15:38,750 --> 01:15:41,289 He'd been sick lately and he died this morning. 1461 01:15:42,189 --> 01:15:43,550 The police said it was suicide. 1462 01:15:44,770 --> 01:15:45,770 Gas. 1463 01:15:46,729 --> 01:15:47,810 Not much of an obit. 1464 01:15:48,909 --> 01:15:51,109 But at least we got our facts straight and it was brief. 1465 01:15:52,409 --> 01:15:54,090 That's all Don Hollenbank would have asked. 1466 01:15:55,350 --> 01:15:56,350 Good night. 1467 01:15:57,109 --> 01:15:58,109 And good luck. 1468 01:16:13,289 --> 01:16:14,170 Until you will. 1469 01:16:14,270 --> 01:16:16,770 Have a moon. 1470 01:16:39,380 --> 01:16:40,920 I'm so excited. 1471 01:17:18,350 --> 01:17:19,350 Here. 1472 01:17:21,170 --> 01:17:22,170 See it now. 1473 01:17:24,090 --> 01:17:26,090 Yeah, circulate that memo to 41. 1474 01:17:27,300 --> 01:17:30,090 Yeah, circulate to Stanton, circulate to Sig. 1475 01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:32,760 Everybody gets that memo. 1476 01:17:32,890 --> 01:17:33,890 Got it? 1477 01:17:35,329 --> 01:17:35,890 Yes. 1478 01:17:36,229 --> 01:17:37,229 Someday 4.30. 1479 01:17:38,970 --> 01:17:40,109 Yes, 4.30. 1480 01:17:40,229 --> 01:17:41,250 Yes, sir. 1481 01:17:41,890 --> 01:17:42,890 All right. 1482 01:17:43,170 --> 01:17:44,170 Yep. 1483 01:17:44,630 --> 01:17:45,630 Okay, thanks. 1484 01:17:46,510 --> 01:17:52,069 Thank you. 1485 01:17:52,829 --> 01:17:53,829 Joe, I'm Shirley. 1486 01:17:55,670 --> 01:17:56,670 Can I talk to you both? 1487 01:17:57,489 --> 01:17:58,569 Let's use the editing room. 1488 01:18:03,460 --> 01:18:05,060 Billy, could you excuse us for a minute? 1489 01:18:05,140 --> 01:18:07,199 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1490 01:18:15,350 --> 01:18:16,350 Shirley. 1491 01:18:18,409 --> 01:18:19,409 How are you? 1492 01:18:21,449 --> 01:18:22,449 Fine, Fred. 1493 01:18:28,095 --> 01:18:29,619 Is there a problem, Fred? 1494 01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:31,239 I want to ask you both a question. 1495 01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:34,081 But I don't want you to answer it. 1496 01:18:35,739 --> 01:18:36,739 Just consider it. 1497 01:18:38,590 --> 01:18:39,671 I know you two are married. 1498 01:18:42,979 --> 01:18:43,979 Everyone knows. 1499 01:18:44,199 --> 01:18:45,199 That's not my question. 1500 01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:52,279 In the next few weeks, I have to lay a couple of people off. 1501 01:18:54,359 --> 01:18:58,859 We're making some significant cuts across the board. 1502 01:18:59,039 --> 01:19:05,039 I wanted you to know that because if you have any intention in the near future of 1503 01:19:05,041 --> 01:19:07,804 starting a family, I would say to you that 1504 01:19:07,805 --> 01:19:11,740 you could save someone else from being fired. 1505 01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:19,479 I'm asking you to consider making this decision a little easier. 1506 01:19:25,220 --> 01:19:26,399 I don't need an answer now. 1507 01:19:27,369 --> 01:19:28,369 Just think about it. 1508 01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:42,560 Well... 1509 01:19:45,449 --> 01:19:46,510 This is worth it. 1510 01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:51,520 We're really going to miss you around here, Joe. 1511 01:20:04,189 --> 01:20:05,189 Everybody knew. 1512 01:20:08,310 --> 01:20:12,430 Yeah, but the problem isn't simply that you lost your sponsor. 1513 01:20:12,789 --> 01:20:15,529 Even with Alcoa's, he and I still lose his money. 1514 01:20:15,750 --> 01:20:17,845 The $50,000 less we show we did for less than the fee. 1515 01:20:17,869 --> 01:20:18,951 We'll find another sponsor. 1516 01:20:19,050 --> 01:20:20,529 $64,000 question. 1517 01:20:20,704 --> 01:20:26,050 Brings in over 80,000 in sponsors and it costs a third of what you do. 1518 01:20:26,449 --> 01:20:28,850 And I've got Tuesday night programming. 1519 01:20:29,489 --> 01:20:33,310 It's number one, because people just want to enjoy themselves. 1520 01:20:33,694 --> 01:20:35,670 They don't want a civics lecture. 1521 01:20:35,729 --> 01:20:36,729 What do you want? 1522 01:20:36,789 --> 01:20:39,564 They don't want a constant stomachache every 1523 01:20:39,564 --> 01:20:42,871 time you take on a controversial subject. 1524 01:20:43,470 --> 01:20:45,310 That's the price you have to be willing to pay. 1525 01:20:45,670 --> 01:20:46,670 Careful, Ed. 1526 01:20:48,149 --> 01:20:51,390 Let's walk very carefully through these next few moments. 1527 01:20:54,930 --> 01:20:57,850 The content of what we're doing is more important than what's responsible. 1528 01:20:58,789 --> 01:21:01,670 No, no, no, what you're doing, not me, not CBS. 1529 01:21:02,729 --> 01:21:04,430 CBS, New Sea, now they all belong to you. 1530 01:21:04,710 --> 01:21:05,930 Well, you wouldn't know it. 1531 01:21:06,170 --> 01:21:07,590 What is the credit that you want? 1532 01:21:07,850 --> 01:21:10,350 I never censored a single program. 1533 01:21:11,409 --> 01:21:16,470 I've kept our affiliates who just wanted entertainment from us, and I fought to 1534 01:21:16,619 --> 01:21:17,670 keep our license. 1535 01:21:18,369 --> 01:21:23,050 With the same politicians you were working to bring down, and I never said no to you. 1536 01:21:23,390 --> 01:21:25,090 I would argue that we have done well. 1537 01:21:25,250 --> 01:21:25,529 Never! 1538 01:21:26,244 --> 01:21:28,483 I would argue that this network is defined 1539 01:21:28,484 --> 01:21:30,270 by what the news department has accomplished. 1540 01:21:30,750 --> 01:21:34,710 I would also argue not saying no is not the same as not censoring. 1541 01:21:35,890 --> 01:21:36,890 Really? 1542 01:21:38,649 --> 01:21:39,909 You should teach journalism. 1543 01:21:41,729 --> 01:21:42,770 Don't let me ask you this. 1544 01:21:43,130 --> 01:21:47,130 Why is it that you always refer to him as the Junior Senator from Wisconsin? 1545 01:21:47,569 --> 01:21:49,411 Because he's the Junior Senator from Wisconsin. 1546 01:21:52,109 --> 01:21:53,109 Not likely. 1547 01:21:54,529 --> 01:21:55,869 You taunt him, Ed. 1548 01:21:56,819 --> 01:21:58,670 Like a cat with a ball of string. 1549 01:22:00,250 --> 01:22:02,149 But now you see you've opened the door. 1550 01:22:02,890 --> 01:22:04,949 News with a dash of commentary. 1551 01:22:06,949 --> 01:22:09,789 What happens when it isn't Edward R. 1552 01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:11,800 Murrow minding the store? 1553 01:22:17,020 --> 01:22:18,020 What do you want to do? 1554 01:22:19,989 --> 01:22:23,510 I'm going to take your show from half an hour to an hour. 1555 01:22:24,699 --> 01:22:28,430 But it won't be a weekly program, and it won't be on Tuesday night. 1556 01:22:29,470 --> 01:22:30,470 When would it be? 1557 01:22:30,510 --> 01:22:31,510 Sunday. 1558 01:22:32,250 --> 01:22:33,250 Afternoon. 1559 01:22:35,630 --> 01:22:36,670 How many episodes? 1560 01:22:37,630 --> 01:22:38,630 Five. 1561 01:22:44,079 --> 01:22:45,360 Why don't you just fire me, Ben? 1562 01:22:47,050 --> 01:22:49,670 I don't think it's what either of us wants. 1563 01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:53,880 Only five shows. 1564 01:22:56,569 --> 01:22:58,270 You want to make this subject matter? 1565 01:22:58,949 --> 01:23:00,449 No, probably not. 1566 01:23:09,399 --> 01:23:11,180 He wants me to lay a few people off. 1567 01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:15,640 I'm sure. 1568 01:23:16,979 --> 01:23:20,359 Let's do the next show about the downfall of television. 1569 01:23:23,010 --> 01:23:26,859 So if the Senate votes to center McCarthy, what happens then? 1570 01:23:28,220 --> 01:23:31,979 He sits in the back row, but they don't kick him out. 1571 01:23:32,239 --> 01:23:33,279 No, he stays. 1572 01:23:33,779 --> 01:23:36,239 He just loses all of his power. 1573 01:23:37,319 --> 01:23:38,760 He's already lost all of his power. 1574 01:23:40,100 --> 01:23:41,100 Great. 1575 01:23:42,109 --> 01:23:43,500 Now they just teach him a lesson. 1576 01:23:48,319 --> 01:23:51,489 They're moving to see it now to Sunday afternoons. 1577 01:23:55,069 --> 01:23:56,069 Uh-oh. 1578 01:23:58,449 --> 01:23:59,449 How many episodes? 1579 01:23:59,810 --> 01:24:00,810 Five. 1580 01:24:07,050 --> 01:24:08,729 Well, might as well go down swinging. 1581 01:24:10,345 --> 01:24:13,989 We'll do the story about the migrant farm workers, make a couple of enemies. 1582 01:24:13,990 --> 01:24:18,289 The most trusted man in America is Miltonboro. 1583 01:24:19,550 --> 01:24:20,550 See? 1584 01:24:21,404 --> 01:24:22,890 Maybe a should of worn a dress. 1585 01:24:24,069 --> 01:24:25,970 My legs are too skinny. 1586 01:24:27,109 --> 01:24:28,109 Feel like a scotch? 1587 01:24:28,609 --> 01:24:29,609 A scotch is good. 1588 01:24:30,489 --> 01:24:32,590 Did you know that Joe and Shirley were married? 1589 01:24:33,029 --> 01:24:34,029 Sure. 1590 01:24:35,069 --> 01:24:36,250 Did everyone know? 1591 01:24:37,289 --> 01:24:37,989 I did much. 1592 01:24:37,990 --> 01:24:38,990 Pretty much. 1593 01:24:40,795 --> 01:24:43,050 I meant to do you no personally. 1594 01:24:44,015 --> 01:24:47,010 And if I did, I'd beg your pardon. 1595 01:24:47,649 --> 01:24:51,189 Let us not assassinate this lad further than it was. 1596 01:24:51,329 --> 01:24:52,689 Look what you've done enough. 1597 01:24:53,319 --> 01:24:56,409 Have you known Santa a decent teacher? 1598 01:24:57,109 --> 01:24:59,409 Have you left? 1599 01:25:00,189 --> 01:25:00,930 No, Santa a decent teacher? 1600 01:25:01,029 --> 01:25:02,110 No, Santa a decent teacher? 1601 01:25:02,649 --> 01:25:04,250 I know the first few of you are wrong. 1602 01:25:05,239 --> 01:25:06,710 I'll say I'm in a sandwich. 1603 01:25:06,930 --> 01:25:07,970 I'm in a point of purpose. 1604 01:25:08,350 --> 01:25:09,529 I'd like to finish this. 1605 01:25:09,750 --> 01:25:11,229 Senator, I think it hurts you too. 1606 01:25:11,390 --> 01:25:12,529 I'd like to finish this. 1607 01:25:12,770 --> 01:25:17,109 Mr. McCarthy, I will not discuss this further with you. 1608 01:25:17,289 --> 01:25:23,010 You have sat within six feet of me and could have asked me about Fred Fisher. 1609 01:25:23,850 --> 01:25:25,430 You have been set to bring it out. 1610 01:25:26,350 --> 01:25:32,550 And if there is a God in heaven, it will do neither new, nor your cause any good. 1611 01:25:33,210 --> 01:25:35,029 I will not discuss this further. 1612 01:25:35,649 --> 01:25:37,710 I will not ask Mr. Court anymore. 1613 01:25:37,949 --> 01:25:38,949 What does this mean? 1614 01:25:39,149 --> 01:25:43,090 You do, Mr. Chairman, they of you will call on this with us. 1615 01:25:46,569 --> 01:25:48,289 Have any questions to come to the end? 1616 01:25:49,689 --> 01:25:50,810 I begin 1617 01:25:54,960 --> 01:26:00,779 by saying our history will be what we make of it. 1618 01:26:02,079 --> 01:26:04,779 If we go on as we are, then history will take its revenge. 1619 01:26:05,949 --> 01:26:08,140 And retribution will not limp in catching up with us. 1620 01:26:10,090 --> 01:26:13,760 Just once in a while, let us exalt the importance of ideas and information. 1621 01:26:15,069 --> 01:26:20,340 Let us dream to the extent of saying that on a given Sunday night, the time normally 1622 01:26:20,341 --> 01:26:23,333 used by Ed Sullivan is given over to a clinical 1623 01:26:23,335 --> 01:26:26,501 survey on the state of American education. 1624 01:26:28,170 --> 01:26:33,300 And a week or two later, the time normally used by Steve Allen is devoted to a 1625 01:26:33,301 --> 01:26:35,920 thoroughgoing study of American policies in the Middle East. 1626 01:26:37,989 --> 01:26:41,060 Would the corporate image of their respective sponsors be damaged? 1627 01:26:41,819 --> 01:26:44,800 Would the stockholders rise up in their wrath and complain? 1628 01:26:46,609 --> 01:26:49,979 Would anything happen other than a few million people would have received a 1629 01:26:49,980 --> 01:26:53,300 little illumination on subjects that may well determine the future of this country? 1630 01:26:56,074 --> 01:26:59,420 To those who say people wouldn't look, they wouldn't be interested. 1631 01:26:59,840 --> 01:27:03,960 They are too complacent and different, insulated. 1632 01:27:06,060 --> 01:27:11,020 I can only reply there is, in one reporter's opinion, considerable evidence 1633 01:27:11,020 --> 01:27:15,399 against that contention, but even if they are right, what have they got to lose? 1634 01:27:17,109 --> 01:27:19,150 Because if they are right and these instruments are good 1635 01:27:19,152 --> 01:27:22,260 for nothing but to entertain and amuse and insulate. 1636 01:27:23,829 --> 01:27:27,197 Then the tube is flickering now, and we will 1637 01:27:27,198 --> 01:27:29,860 soon see that the whole struggle is lost. 1638 01:27:37,899 --> 01:27:39,359 Ladies and gentlemen, here he is. 1639 01:27:39,659 --> 01:27:40,439 That's down on our... Good evening. 1640 01:27:40,859 --> 01:27:41,420 I'm Mike Waller. 1641 01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:44,920 This is a program of facts, news, information, and observation. 1642 01:27:45,300 --> 01:27:45,880 Thank you very much. 1643 01:27:46,060 --> 01:27:49,840 Now is the time to make real promises of democracy. 1644 01:27:50,180 --> 01:27:53,199 Our goal is not the victory of might from Dallas, Texas. 1645 01:27:53,201 --> 01:27:54,300 The vindication of right. 1646 01:27:54,600 --> 01:28:00,140 The Flash, apparently official President Kennedy, died at 1 p.m. 1647 01:28:00,479 --> 01:28:01,659 Central Standard Time. 1648 01:28:03,314 --> 01:28:04,420 On fire, please. 1649 01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:07,279 Sock it to me, Sock it to me. 1650 01:28:07,659 --> 01:28:09,100 Ladies and gentlemen, let me go. 1651 01:28:09,300 --> 01:28:12,819 What happened here at Kent State University to find a name? 1652 01:28:13,060 --> 01:28:14,739 President Sockruck, well, I'm not a crust. 1653 01:28:15,060 --> 01:28:17,060 The Space Shuttle Challenger has a smoke. 1654 01:28:18,079 --> 01:28:19,180 Tear down this. 1655 01:28:19,380 --> 01:28:20,060 It doesn't fit. 1656 01:28:20,399 --> 01:28:21,399 If it doesn't fit. 1657 01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:24,055 You must... This is supposed to be married in three weeks. 1658 01:28:24,079 --> 01:28:25,239 What are you doing literally? 1659 01:28:26,340 --> 01:28:28,539 You are not the father. 1660 01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:30,680 Weapons of mass destruction. 1661 01:28:31,340 --> 01:28:32,859 Get rolled by the Bush administration. 1662 01:28:33,340 --> 01:28:33,640 He's got him. 1663 01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:34,840 He's got him. 1664 01:28:35,159 --> 01:28:36,520 This isn't the World Trade Center. 1665 01:28:37,039 --> 01:28:38,079 A big excursion assistant. 1666 01:28:38,300 --> 01:28:40,260 What exactly happened on 9-11? 1667 01:28:40,500 --> 01:28:42,659 Conspiracy theories continue to saturate the Internet. 1668 01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:43,140 It's terrorist. 1669 01:28:43,640 --> 01:28:46,039 He was wearing this tan for all you kids watching at home. 1670 01:28:46,340 --> 01:28:47,460 Santa just is white. 1671 01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:48,220 The big lie. 1672 01:28:48,220 --> 01:28:49,640 There's on Dominion voting. 1673 01:28:49,779 --> 01:28:51,020 The company is called Dominion. 1674 01:28:51,260 --> 01:28:53,560 Another in a series of stolen elections. 1675 01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:55,520 President Biden has a photographic memo. 1676 01:28:55,659 --> 01:28:56,680 He's totally focused. 1677 01:28:56,920 --> 01:28:58,039 He's very sharp in meetings. 1678 01:28:58,180 --> 01:28:59,899 All turn to the facts to that. 1679 01:29:00,119 --> 01:29:04,000 FBI operatives were organizing the attack on the... 1680 01:29:04,001 --> 01:29:06,579 The FBI had 26 of their people on the inside. 1681 01:29:07,300 --> 01:29:08,340 The false flag operations. 1682 01:29:08,619 --> 01:29:12,340 $8 million of dollars and a apologizing to the desescentation law. 1683 01:29:12,341 --> 01:29:15,140 The 8th reporter was barred from an office event. 1684 01:29:15,359 --> 01:29:16,359 From Air Force One. 1685 01:29:16,659 --> 01:29:17,859 The Associated Press. 1686 01:29:18,939 --> 01:29:21,239 The UN has retracted help. 1687 01:29:21,479 --> 01:29:23,761 But from false stories, I never tried to shoot a prisoner. 1688 01:29:23,939 --> 01:29:25,859 Force is extremely dangerous. 1689 01:29:27,199 --> 01:29:28,199 To our democracy. 1690 01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:30,119 Crisis is going to leave the evidence. 1691 01:29:30,600 --> 01:29:31,796 Race is going to leave the evidence. 1692 01:29:31,819 --> 01:29:33,619 Disaffective is going to kill the coronavirus. 1693 01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:34,840 We need to catch up. 1694 01:29:35,859 --> 01:29:38,680 Please raise your right hand and repeat after me. 1695 01:30:12,850 --> 01:30:15,229 These instruments can teach. 1696 01:30:16,789 --> 01:30:17,289 They can illuminate. 1697 01:30:17,291 --> 01:30:20,390 It can even inspire. 1698 01:30:23,539 --> 01:30:25,122 But they can do so only to the extent that 1699 01:30:25,123 --> 01:30:28,390 humans are determined to use them to those ends. 1700 01:30:30,420 --> 01:30:32,381 Otherwise, there merely wires and lights in a box. 1701 01:30:34,680 --> 01:30:36,170 There is a great... 1702 01:30:37,409 --> 01:30:39,869 and perhaps decisive battle to be fought. 1703 01:30:42,329 --> 01:30:43,329 Against ignorance. 1704 01:30:44,409 --> 01:30:45,409 Intolerance. 1705 01:30:47,130 --> 01:30:48,130 Indifference. 1706 01:30:51,619 --> 01:30:53,729 Is a fight for the very soul of this republic. 1707 01:30:56,810 --> 01:30:58,451 And so the question is a very simple one. 1708 01:31:00,319 --> 01:31:02,710 Not what power unchecked can do. 1709 01:31:03,539 --> 01:31:04,729 We have seen that answer. 1710 01:31:05,970 --> 01:31:06,970 No. 1711 01:31:09,489 --> 01:31:10,949 The question is... 1712 01:31:12,630 --> 01:31:14,369 What are you prepared to do? 1713 01:31:42,029 --> 01:31:43,350 The fault, dear Brutus. 1714 01:31:53,050 --> 01:31:54,050 Good night. 1715 01:31:54,850 --> 01:31:55,850 And good luck. 1716 01:33:17,170 --> 01:33:20,170 We've been watching the experience of live production of Broadway Play. 1717 01:33:20,430 --> 01:33:23,789 Good night and good luck starting George Clooney here on C&A. 1718 01:33:24,050 --> 01:33:27,090 The first time that Broadway Play has been broadcast live around the world. 1719 01:33:27,350 --> 01:33:30,409 You can see the cast still up on the stage including George Clooney. 1720 01:33:30,411 --> 01:33:33,109 Tony was nominated for his performance in this production. 1721 01:33:33,770 --> 01:33:35,485 We're going to speak to some of them shortly. 1722 01:33:35,510 --> 01:33:37,630 I'm Anderson Cooper, welcome to our post show special. 1723 01:33:37,770 --> 01:33:40,130 Good night and good luck, truth and power. 1724 01:33:40,390 --> 01:33:43,590 We're about a mile away from the Winter Garden Theatre with a live studio audience 1725 01:33:43,591 --> 01:33:45,810 of journalism, communication students and professors. 1726 01:33:46,560 --> 01:33:48,189 All of them watch tonight's performance. 1727 01:33:48,859 --> 01:33:52,369 The world of journalism and media that they are studying and they soon enter is 1728 01:33:52,371 --> 01:33:54,569 vastly different than many ways than Murro's Day. 1729 01:33:54,670 --> 01:33:57,850 But there are post parallels to what Murro faced as well. 1730 01:33:58,199 --> 01:34:01,029 Now, I'm joined here by a panel of renowned journalists, writers from the 1731 01:34:01,030 --> 01:34:02,989 world with television, newspapers and podcasts. 1732 01:34:03,630 --> 01:34:07,170 I'll also talk exclusively with a former anchor of the CBS Evening News in the long 1733 01:34:07,171 --> 01:34:11,989 time, 16 of his correspondence got held by why he says journalism is under attack and 1734 01:34:11,990 --> 01:34:14,529 about CBS's ongoing legal battle of President Trump. 1735 01:34:15,270 --> 01:34:18,529 With me right now, Walter Isaacson, Professor of History at Tulane University, 1736 01:34:18,989 --> 01:34:21,409 former CEO of CNN, he actually hired me. 1737 01:34:21,779 --> 01:34:24,545 He's also the author of numerous best-selling books 1738 01:34:24,546 --> 01:34:27,310 about Leonardo da Vinci's The Jobs, Elon Musk and others. 1739 01:34:28,149 --> 01:34:30,810 Also here, Connie Chung, former co-anchor of the CBS Evening News. 1740 01:34:30,989 --> 01:34:34,210 She was also an anchor here at CNN as well as ABC and NBC News. 1741 01:34:34,510 --> 01:34:35,949 She's the author of the book Connie. 1742 01:34:36,305 --> 01:35:36,451