"World White Hate" Widerstand

1 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:08,120 The threat from right-wing terrorists is growing worldwide. 2 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:10,320 They boast about attacks 3 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:12,120 and inspire others to copy them. 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:16,360 This creates a dangerous global network of far-right hatred. 5 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:17,760 People all over the world 6 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,720 are threatened and marked as a target. 7 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,200 But many victims and the bereaved now refuse to tolerate this. 8 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,240 They are putting up resistence... 9 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:34,074 -== [ www.OpenSubtitles.com ] ==- 10 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,680 Scott Payne has infiltrated and shut down 11 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,560 many right-wing extremist terrorist groups for the FBI. 12 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:04,280 But the problem isn't shrinking - and especially not online. 13 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,240 If we're talking white supremacy, national socialist, 14 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:13,880 neo-Nazi, it's tough because a lot of people just talk. 15 00:01:16,960 --> 00:01:18,440 One group in particular I was in, 16 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,480 there might be 100 or more people in the group from all over the world, 17 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,600 spewing hate 24 hours a day. 18 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:31,320 Just picture you blocking yourself from dealing with any other people 19 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,440 and you sit in your room 20 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,760 hating, and you get on that smartphone, 21 00:01:35,960 --> 00:01:38,640 and you just start diving down rabbit holes of pure hate. 22 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,280 I slept six to maybe seven hours. I would wake up and I would be 23 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,680 1500-plus posts behind. 24 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,440 And I was afraid that I was gonna miss something, 25 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,640 so I made sure I went through every post of every member 26 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:54,520 every day for five months. 27 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,200 How do you figure out which one's really gonna do something? 28 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,840 That's like... a needle in a haystack. 29 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:02,200 PROPAGANDA MATERIAL 30 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,080 Imagine how hard it is to monitor all that. 31 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,080 If it never comes across our radar, 32 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:08,720 sometimes it's too late. 33 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,360 Multiple gunshots are heard 34 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,640 from the lobby, possibly 20 to 30 shots. 35 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:18,160 There are still shots being fired. 36 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:19,640 We're hiding... 37 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,680 Should we come out? 38 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,880 HANAU, GERMANY 39 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:33,160 On average, 40 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:37,120 {\an8}one German is killed by a foreigner each day. 41 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:38,880 {\an5}Since the problem has existed for decades, 42 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:40,440 let's just calculate 43 00:02:40,640 --> 00:02:43,880 {\an5}based on 40 years, which results in a sum 44 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:44,840 of 14,600. 45 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,720 On 19 February 2020, 46 00:02:47,920 --> 00:02:51,240 a racist from Hanau shot nine of his neighbours, 47 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,040 including Serpil Unvar's son. 48 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,160 Ferhat was 23 years old. 49 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,400 His life in Germany wasn't always free of conflict. 50 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,080 We went through a lot, especially at school, 51 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:08,360 one teacher said, "Either Ferhat leaves this school or I do." 52 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:10,720 After that, he always said, 53 00:03:10,920 --> 00:03:12,080 "Look, Mama, 54 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,840 I'm not doing anything, I've said it 1000 times, 55 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:17,960 you have to accept that. 56 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:20,520 You have to work more." 57 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:22,600 To keep her son's memory alive, 58 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:24,440 Serpil Unvar has founded 59 00:03:24,640 --> 00:03:26,560 an initiative. 60 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:30,800 Students should learn and understand why people become racist. 61 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:32,640 Our workshops 62 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:34,640 are for young people 63 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,000 across Germany. 64 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:41,200 For small children and primary school children. 65 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,320 We need the younger generations, 66 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,640 but due to racism and discrimination, 67 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,200 we're losing these young people. 68 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,080 The perpetrator from Hanau 69 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,880 spent weeks scouting his neighbourhood. 70 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,680 I've lived in Kesselstadt for 27 years. 71 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,720 We're different, we don't belong here, 72 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,840 but we live here. That's the feeling we always had. 73 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,160 I think we also accepted that 74 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,440 and I believe that was a big mistake. 75 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,880 Why are we different? Who decides that? 76 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,480 We live here, we were born here, 77 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,680 we work here, we go to school here and we die here. 78 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:28,960 HANAU-KESSELSTADT 19 FEBRUARY 2020 79 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,680 On the night of the attack, Serpil Unvar heard about the shots 80 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:35,520 and desperately searched for her son. 81 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,880 The police stopped me. 82 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,000 He was still in the kiosk, 83 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,200 laying on the floor, 84 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,600 he was completely alone. 85 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,280 The murderer wrote his website address on the wall 86 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,720 at one of the crime scenes. 87 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,440 After that, he fled home and shot his mother 88 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:54,880 before turning the gun on himself. 89 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:00,960 My neighbour... 90 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,240 linear distance 70 metres, 80 metres. 91 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,600 Of course that destroyed trust among neighbours. 92 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:10,480 Do they also hate us? 93 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:16,960 BAUTZEN, GERMANY 94 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,120 I work for the cadastral office in Saxony 95 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,840 at the district office in Bautzen. 96 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,960 It was not only in the land registry office 97 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:31,800 that advertising was laid out 98 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,600 for the state of Saxony, like leaflets. 99 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,880 Conspiracy theories, anti-semitism, right-wing extremism... 100 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,200 I've encountered this everywhere here. 101 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:43,680 Just everywhere. 102 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:47,840 I've been on Twitter 103 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:49,520 for five years 104 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,520 because, as I said at the time, it was difficult 105 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,200 to get out through the press. 106 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,440 In almost all constituencies in the eastern German states, 107 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,080 a far-right party clearly beat 108 00:06:02,280 --> 00:06:04,640 the other parties 109 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:06,360 in the 2025 federal election. 110 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,080 And hundreds of people continue to demonstrate 111 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:10,600 against refugees. 112 00:06:19,840 --> 00:06:21,000 This is our country! 113 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:22,880 These are our children! 114 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:24,800 And if you mess with it, 115 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,800 you will feel the wrath of the Germans! 116 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,040 We don't want any more poverty, 117 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,360 we don't want any more foreign infiltration! 118 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,640 That's why the motto can and has to be: 119 00:06:36,840 --> 00:06:40,080 Germany for the Germans! Who else? 120 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:50,960 I approached people personally 121 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,000 at every opportunity. 122 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,320 Everyone is asked to speak up. To warn. 123 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,120 I'm only doing what is necessary. 124 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:00,880 Many people are actually just silent 125 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,680 and desperate, while the others 126 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,160 march every Monday. 127 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,040 The overthrow has to happen eventually. 128 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:13,160 The problem is really that this state has been attacked for years. 129 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,480 Where is it today, our fatherland? 130 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,040 In which filthy world 131 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:21,480 would we accept it 132 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:23,960 when a father leaves his front door open 133 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,480 for every f*cking a*shole to get in 134 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,440 and rape his wife or daughter? 135 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:34,080 How much we would all condemn such a disgusting 136 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,080 and totally inhuman pig! 137 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,840 HANAU, GERMANY 138 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:50,800 Yes? 139 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,440 One day, it was a Sunday, 140 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:04,200 an old man came to my kitchen window. 141 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,160 I said, "Hello". 142 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,240 Then he said, "Where do you work? 143 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,240 Why did you move to Germany?" 144 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,600 Then I saw it was that man... 145 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:17,600 The perpetrator's father. 146 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,280 The next morning, he came to me again, 147 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,800 stood in front of my kitchen window and looked directly in. 148 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,600 The father regularly patrols the neighbourhood with his dog. 149 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:34,000 He only lives a few metres away from Serpil Unvar's house, 150 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,240 where she lives with her other children. 151 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:37,760 He didn't only come to me, 152 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,360 he also went to my son's primary school 153 00:08:41,560 --> 00:08:42,840 with his alsatian 154 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,840 and stared, very coldly, 155 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,600 at my son, and a lot of the children were afraid, 156 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,360 but he carried on doing it and no one stopped him. 157 00:08:53,560 --> 00:08:55,480 Just like his son. 158 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,760 But then I started receiving letters. 159 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,880 The perpetrator's father actually wrote to Serpil Unvar 160 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:03,880 demanding that she compensate him 161 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,280 for the death of his son. 162 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:11,480 It says here, I should always be grateful, I'm not German 163 00:09:11,680 --> 00:09:13,600 and that's why he's fining me 164 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:15,360 up to one-and-a-half million euros. 165 00:09:15,680 --> 00:09:18,880 And I have to pay him this fine. 166 00:09:19,560 --> 00:09:23,360 How can it be that this man is able to remain my neighbour? 167 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,920 Because the perpetrator's father harassed the victim's families, 168 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:29,880 he was sentenced in court. 169 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,120 He's already had to pay many fines of 10,000 euros each 170 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:34,760 but still lives in the city. 171 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,080 And then two policemen came to me 172 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:42,200 and said, 173 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,600 "Mrs Unvar, why do you still live in Kesselstadt?" 174 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,080 Many families have moved away, but not me. 175 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,960 While he was alive, Serpil's son fought against right-wing violence. 176 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,280 He rapped and posted poetry. 177 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:58,520 I experienced 178 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,360 so much with him, it's unbelievable, 179 00:10:01,560 --> 00:10:04,840 but then because of racism, someone came 180 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,720 and took Ferhat from me 181 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:10,200 and that was it. 182 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:12,760 I couldn't really accept it, 183 00:10:13,680 --> 00:10:16,720 how could it be 184 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,760 that nine children were killed in just a few minutes? 185 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,320 Their deaths should not be in vain. 186 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,720 Something has to happen. 187 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:28,680 I have to carry on for him. 188 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:31,760 As he wrote himself: 189 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,160 We're not dead until we're forgotten. 190 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,960 WE'RE NOT DEAD UNTIL WE'RE FORGOTTEN. 191 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,040 He shot a lot of people up in there. 192 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:53,680 Oh my God. 193 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:55,880 Since a young racist 194 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,160 shot ten people in Buffalo in 2022, 195 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,320 those left behind are fighting for justice. 196 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:04,800 I ask every one of you to imagine 197 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:06,440 the faces of your mothers 198 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:08,360 as you look at mine. 199 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:09,760 And ask yourself, 200 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,320 is there nothing that you personally are willing to do 201 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,000 to stop the cancer 202 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:15,400 of white supremacy 203 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,040 and the domestic terrorism it inspires? 204 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,600 My mother's life mattered. 205 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:23,960 Your actions here today 206 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,400 would tell us how much it matters to you. 207 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:27,840 Thank you. 208 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:29,960 I felt lost, you know, 209 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:31,800 what am I supposed to be doing? 210 00:11:32,560 --> 00:11:33,360 I don't know, 211 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:35,560 and it's OK not to know. 212 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:45,240 {\an5}The 18-year-old terrorist who stormed my community with an AR-15, 213 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:49,240 {\an5}killing 10 people and injuring three others, received the shotgun 214 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,280 {\an5}from his parents for his 16th birthday. 215 00:11:52,680 --> 00:11:54,440 For Zaire's 16th birthday, 216 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:58,440 I bought him a few video games, some headphones, a pizza and a cake. 217 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:00,440 We are not the same. 218 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,680 There were congressmen and women crying. 219 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,600 But the ones who didn't care, 220 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,200 they were on their phone. 221 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:10,480 Zeneta Everhart 222 00:12:10,680 --> 00:12:13,320 already worked for a senator in Buffalo 223 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,840 and her appearance in Washington made an impression. 224 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,880 It's been five years people have been asking 225 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:24,440 me to run, you should run, and I'm like get out of here, you're crazy. 226 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:32,280 Zeneta has been a powerful, outspoken 227 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,680 representative for her son 228 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:37,520 and for our community. 229 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:39,760 All these hate groups back in the 80s 230 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:41,640 when I was in the military, 231 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,680 the militia, the skinheads, the Nazis and the Klan... 232 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,680 The decision really came in 233 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,120 conversations that I had with 234 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,200 some of the senators and congressmen and women, 235 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,240 and I was like, you know what? 236 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,120 Why not? Right? 237 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,280 I could get some federal attention on the issues 238 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,880 here on the East Side of Buffalo. 239 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:08,400 I could run for office. 240 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:10,360 What's the worst that could happen? 241 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:13,920 Zeneta Everhart 242 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:17,320 announced that she is running to represent the Masten district. 243 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,000 I'm one of those people who believe that I could change the world, 244 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:21,040 right? 245 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:22,400 I do. 246 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:26,640 As long as I have to see my kid 247 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:29,800 with a hole in his neck, 248 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:31,560 they have to hear my voice. 249 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,040 So I realised my privilege in that moment 250 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:35,880 and so I took advantage of it 251 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:40,240 because I knew that people would listen to me. 252 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,200 Lawyer Amy Spitalnick 253 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,400 fights against far-right extremists 254 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:47,160 and their structures in the USA - 255 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:48,760 while she still can. 256 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,440 LAWYER 257 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:56,400 In recent years, 258 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,560 I've found myself brought into this work fighting 259 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:01,000 hate and extremism 260 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:05,240 because this place has moved in a direction where 261 00:14:05,560 --> 00:14:07,040 very few communities are safe. 262 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:12,160 In summer 2017, 263 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,520 neo-Nazi groups organised a torchlight procession in Virginia. 264 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,080 A demonstration of strength. 265 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,280 I had watched the images coming out from the torch march 266 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,960 at my mum's house surrounded by images of my grandparents, 267 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,200 and they were survivors of the Holocaust 268 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,040 and ultimately came to America, the place 269 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:33,880 that I was told would be safe. 270 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,120 You will not replace us! 271 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,040 You will not replace us! 272 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:41,680 The day after the procession, 273 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,560 even more right-wing extremists flocked into the city - 274 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,320 but they were met by counter-protesters. 275 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,720 Images just coming in. A car plowing 276 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,480 into a crowd of demonstrators protesting against 277 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,960 those white nationalists. A 32-year-old woman killed, 278 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,840 a number of severe injuries. 279 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,520 Nine Charlottesville locals who were injured in the violence 280 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:14,560 brought a lawsuit alleging a racist, violent conspiracy. 281 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,400 Amy Spitelnick's clients 282 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,000 called in Peter Simi as an expert witness. 283 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,840 The sociologist knows the US neo- Nazi scene better than anyone else. 284 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,360 But you have to look at Discord 285 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:34,000 channels that they were using 286 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:37,440 to literally organise the Unite the Right rally. 287 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:42,720 So the images, the videos, the memes, literal discussions 288 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,480 about using cars to attack people. 289 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:48,960 {\an5}It was all present on Discord 290 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,600 {\an5}as well as other social media platforms. 291 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,680 {\an5}There was a tremendous amount of evidence that would have allowed 292 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:56,640 for federal charges being brought 293 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:00,240 based on my review of the evidence. 294 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:04,080 The federal prosecutors were subordinate to Trump at the time. 295 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,000 They did not take action 296 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,880 against those who organised the violence. 297 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:10,520 You also had people 298 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:14,240 that were very fine people on both sides. 299 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,960 No accountability after violence leads to an emboldening effect. 300 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,240 In many respects, the justice system failed 301 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:40,080 the victims, who in one case killed 302 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,520 that day, in many other cases severely injured. 303 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:49,400 The perpetrators, who had publicly called 304 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,480 for violence, threatened to get away with it. 305 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,080 The victims' last hope: 306 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,040 Amy Spitalnick's civil lawsuit. 307 00:16:58,240 --> 00:16:59,760 One of the defendants 308 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:01,360 was Richard Spencer, 309 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,880 at the time one of the most influential neo-Nazis in the USA. 310 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,840 No one mourns the great crimes committed against us. 311 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,480 For us, it is conquer or die. 312 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:13,160 Hail Trump, 313 00:17:13,360 --> 00:17:15,720 hail our people, hail victory. 314 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:21,120 Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil! 315 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:25,160 It took about four years to the day of filing a lawsuit to get to trial. 316 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,320 A four-week trial in Charlottesville in fall of 2021. 317 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,200 Today in court, the jurors were sworn in as some of the defendants, 318 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:40,280 self-proclaimed neo-Nazis and white nationalists, looked on. 319 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:42,920 In court, the evidence was clear. 320 00:17:43,120 --> 00:17:46,960 The violence was not spontaneous but planned by far-right extremists. 321 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:48,840 It was not a coincidence that a man 322 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,520 drove into the counter-protesters killing a woman. 323 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,120 He was spurred on online. 324 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,480 When the verdict was read, I was sitting in a room 325 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:58,760 with all of our plaintiffs. 326 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,000 None of us took anything for granted. 327 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:03,640 The jury found the defendants liable 328 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,040 on four of the six counts 329 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:07,720 and awarded a significant 330 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,480 amount of punitive damages. I'm still adding it all up, but it's 331 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:12,320 at least 12 million. 332 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,200 And they found every single one of them liable 333 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,560 for a multi-million dollar verdict. It mattered at a time 334 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:22,000 when there has been so little accountability. 335 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,800 I think all of us were emotional in many ways. 336 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,120 Every Charlottesville victim who had sued 337 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,520 was now entitled to the perpetrators' money. 338 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:32,840 The neo-Nazis had to pay. 339 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,480 We heard from the defendants, people like Richard Spencer, 340 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:37,800 that the case had financially crippled him. 341 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:43,880 But a win in court alone 342 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,360 still didn't change the threat... 343 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:52,560 Belief in these conspiracy theories 344 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:57,040 are even higher among teens than the adult population in general. 345 00:18:57,360 --> 00:19:01,160 Because of how extremists have really morphed and adapted, 346 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,360 it can feel like whack-a-mole at times. 347 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,720 That there is no choice but to push back 348 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,400 because our alternative 349 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,520 is a world in which none of us are safe. 350 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,560 Once a year, experts and other people 351 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:18,720 meet in Pittsburgh to discuss measures 352 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:22,160 to combat the right-wing extremist threat. 353 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:29,000 We had the deadliest attack against the Jewish community in US history 354 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,320 here in Pittsburgh in 2018. 355 00:19:32,120 --> 00:19:35,640 A federal jury sentenced Robert Bowers to death 356 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,800 for killing 11 worshippers at Pittsburgh's Tree of Life synagogue. 357 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,600 Bowers yelled: "All Jews must die." 358 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:44,200 One way to make sure 359 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,400 that it was not going to simply 360 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,680 be another in a series of hateful attacks was 361 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,880 to try to make sure that people come to this space where it happened 362 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:54,320 and talk about solutions. 363 00:19:55,360 --> 00:19:58,480 The congress shows above all that the task is huge. 364 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:02,160 Right-wing violence exists in many countries. 365 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,640 We have identified in a very shocking data 366 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,960 that 62 extremist 367 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:09,880 connected mass killings 368 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,000 have occurred since 1970 369 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,680 and about 57% of those 370 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,040 have occurred just in the last 12 years. 371 00:20:18,360 --> 00:20:21,480 So, these ideological mass killings over the last 12 years 372 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:25,400 are more than what we saw in the previous 40. 373 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,760 A Holocaust survivor feels reminded of bad times. 374 00:20:32,360 --> 00:20:33,840 When you think about your story, 375 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:35,600 how do you think it relates to the hate 376 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,680 and extremism that we're talking about here today? 377 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:40,400 It's an absolute nightmare. 378 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:44,200 It only happened really not even a century ago. 379 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,440 I mean, could it happen again? 380 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,240 I think yes, in a different way maybe, 381 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,280 they wouldn't use gas chambers, they would - or shooting. 382 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,080 In Pittsburgh, those who want 383 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,480 to fight against terror are meeting with those 384 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,280 whose father, mother, child or partner 385 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:00,760 was murdered. 386 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:02,520 Like in Christchurch, New Zealand. 387 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,120 In 2019, a racist there shot 388 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,440 51 Muslims at prayer. 389 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:11,280 I lost my best friend and my husband, Zachariah Tuyan. 390 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,280 He was the last to pass on after 391 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,240 fighting for 48 days at the ICU. 392 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,160 I have been in the receiving end 393 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,200 of what one person can do. 394 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:27,840 While he was doing that act, 395 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,280 people were still encouraging him and cheering him on. 396 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,720 They are united in dividing us. 397 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:36,560 We need to unite 398 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,920 to drown out those voices. 399 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,480 For us as women, 400 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,440 widows, daughters, sisters, 401 00:21:45,120 --> 00:21:46,880 we thought, let's invite 402 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,200 Muslims and non-Muslim organisations, groups, individuals. 403 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,960 The Christchurch widows organise a large meet-up 404 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:55,800 once a year to this intent. 405 00:21:56,120 --> 00:21:58,560 It is a sign of solidarity and resistance. 406 00:21:58,880 --> 00:21:59,720 We talk about hatred, 407 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,200 but let's also talk about that compassion, 408 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,160 that solidarity. 409 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,760 Germany, Oslo, Christchurch, 410 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:08,680 WIDOW OF A TERROR VICTIM 411 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:10,360 here, Pittsburgh, 412 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:14,640 the legacy of all those precious lives that we've all lost 413 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:19,040 is associated with, let's work harder and together, 414 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,480 not separately. 415 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,400 LGBTQ activist 416 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,760 Roman Samotny has also travelled here. 417 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,520 A right-wing extremist shot two of his friends 418 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,960 right in front of the bar that he had established 419 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,480 as a safe place for the LGBTQ scene. 420 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:42,240 Just to be here and to listen to all these stories 421 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:47,280 somehow helps me to understand what I was going through. 422 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,320 That's a really important thing that 423 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,280 I'm not alone in this situation. 424 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,440 I met here like many people 425 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:06,080 which were determined to transform this terrible experience 426 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:07,800 to something good 427 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,920 and somehow change the society in a better way. 428 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,400 We really desperately need to be more in touch, 429 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,200 to cooperate, to create a coalition 430 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,840 of people who want to fight hatred 431 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,480 because the enemy is really big. 432 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,920 Veteran Kris Goldsmith is also fighting this big enemy. 433 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:37,840 Hey folks, I'm Kris Goldsmith. 434 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,240 I am the CEO of Task Force Butler Institute. 435 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,000 We are a small nonprofit organisation 436 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,760 that trains veterans to conduct open source intelligence research. 437 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,360 We are a group of American veterans, a couple of dozen people, 438 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,720 and we exist to make it expensive 439 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,720 and difficult for these neo-Nazis to continue their work. 440 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,240 So, it might look goofy with these neo-Nazis 441 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,240 with tattoos on their faces going out and screaming at people. 442 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,640 But they're highlighting the locations of gay bars. 443 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,240 They're highlighting where refugees are being housed. 444 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,520 It's that type of action that inspires the lone actor 445 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,080 to get out of his basement. 446 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,440 With every bit of propaganda, 447 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:27,600 they are becoming more and more likely to commit a terrorist attack. 448 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,880 That's why the neo-Nazis are doing it. 449 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,600 Because it inspires others to violence 450 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,120 and that violence undermining faith in institutions 451 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,760 and creating a demand for more violence 452 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,400 is very much a virtual battleground. 453 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,280 I openly show my research platform on camera. 454 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:55,640 I am communicating to all of these folks here, 455 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,560 all of them know who I am, 456 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:58,800 that I am watching them. 457 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,040 We are unmasking anonymous avatars, 458 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,280 people who are terminally online 459 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,160 and believe that they're too good to get caught. 460 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,920 I take screenshots. I do video recordings. I take 461 00:25:13,120 --> 00:25:17,280 endless notes on the same individual or movement or group. 462 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,160 We see a risk of a violent event, 463 00:25:21,360 --> 00:25:23,120 of a specific person who's been targeted, 464 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,360 who might be facing violence imminently, 465 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,080 and we send out a report to the FBI, 466 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:29,600 to the DOJ. 467 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,920 Law enforcement doesn't respond to the vast majority 468 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,320 of intelligence about extremists that are being passed on and they're 469 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,600 certainly not imposing legal costs on all of these bad actors. 470 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,920 The Buffalo shooter streamed his attack on Twitch, 471 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:46,880 a daughter company of Amazon. 472 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,800 The murderer prepared his attack with the help of Google, YouTube 473 00:25:52,120 --> 00:25:55,040 and a whole range of other digital platforms. 474 00:25:55,360 --> 00:25:57,600 {\an5}IN MAY 2022, 18-YEAR-OLD PAYTON GENDRON 475 00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,760 {\an5}SHOT 10 PEOPLE IN BUFFALO, USA. 476 00:25:59,960 --> 00:26:01,520 What he did, anybody could do. 477 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,960 {\an5}He's a young kid who was radicalised 478 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:06,800 and made to believe lies. 479 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,720 No question - he pulled the trigger, 480 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,000 but he didn't load the gun. You know? 481 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,160 I'm after the people who loaded the gun. 482 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,800 Everyone who played a role 483 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,120 in this massacre is responsible. 484 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,520 If your company streamed this video, 485 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,040 I wanna talk to that person. 486 00:26:26,360 --> 00:26:28,560 I want them to address this country 487 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,000 and tell us why they think that's OK. 488 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,720 Thousands of users shared the video of the attack on Facebook. 489 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,200 This enabled the horror to spread at lightning speed. 490 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:39,600 You should be in a courtroom 491 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,560 to look me in my face 492 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,160 and talk to me about why it was OK 493 00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:46,800 for people to tag 494 00:26:47,120 --> 00:26:50,480 my son being shot down like a dog. 495 00:26:52,120 --> 00:26:55,480 Social media gun manufacturers 496 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,640 have to be held accountable. 497 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,480 Zaire has pieces of those bullets in his body, 498 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,800 and they will be there forever. 499 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,440 At the end of 2025, Meta, 500 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,280 Amazon and others are due to stand trial. 501 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,280 But the companies are halting the process. 502 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,040 A rethink is not taking place. 503 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,320 There's no incentive for social media companies 504 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:18,840 to do the right thing. 505 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,840 There's little incentive for politicians to do the right thing 506 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,520 because many of them have been rewarded by normalising extremism. 507 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:28,520 When I win on November 5th, 508 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:33,320 migrant invasion ends and the restoration of our country begins. 509 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:41,600 Kris Goldsmith takes great risks in his fight against the neo-Nazis. 510 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,000 He doesn't always remain sitting at his computer. 511 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:48,120 He also physically infiltrates right-wing extremist groups. 512 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:49,680 They vetted me, 513 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,240 the real person, to join the Aryan Freedom Network. 514 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,480 They invited me to their little Nazi party, 515 00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,440 and then we let them know we're close enough to run a little drone. 516 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,400 We're collecting licence plates and home addresses. 517 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:08,360 We're not gonna hurt anybody. 518 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,760 We're just gonna work with law enforcement. 519 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:23,280 A neo-Nazi last year showed up at my mother's house to hand deliver 520 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:24,720 a kidnapping threat. 521 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,840 Atomwaffen, one of the most notorious 522 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:31,600 neo-Nazi organisations, 523 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,040 pointed people to my home address. 524 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,160 I have reinforced my doors. 525 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,560 I now carry a gun in my own home. 526 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,960 This hate is spreading increasingly quickly, including in Germany. 527 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,880 The government wanted and ordered 528 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,440 this flood of migrants, we have to remain aware of that. 529 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,440 These conquerors disguised as refugees 530 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,840 view our society as prey. 531 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:06,920 UNREGISTERED MEETING SUMMER 2020 532 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,560 Put the camera away, you clown, or I'll smash it. 533 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,520 You filmed me first. 534 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,160 - Calm down. - P*ss off! 535 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,080 What's going on! 536 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,400 P*ss off! 537 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,320 - Stay calm. - P*ss off! 538 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:24,240 - Calm down. - Put the damn camera away! 539 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:25,520 Calm. 540 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,240 Birgit Kieschnick feels the pressure in Saxony. 541 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,760 But she continues to write against far-right hatred, 542 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,600 despite it putting her at great risk. 543 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:36,720 They try to make 544 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,040 my life difficult, so for example, sometimes 545 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,320 my doorbell rings after midnight 546 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,240 and then there's stuff in my postbox, 547 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,520 anonymous letters, 548 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:48,560 where it says 549 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,280 I don't count. 550 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,360 {\an5}Kieschnick also criticises the city's biggest employer, 551 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:56,840 Jörg Drews. 552 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,400 {\an5}She accuses his construction firm of funding the right-wing AfD party 553 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,320 {\an5}and accuses him of supporting extremist propaganda. 554 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,400 The only accusation that may be true is that I am concerned. 555 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,680 Yes, I'm a concerned citizen. 556 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,200 Yes, well the SPD mayor 557 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,720 said directly to my face: 558 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,280 You're the problem with this city. You're the radical one here. 559 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,000 What these men are doing is not justiciable. 560 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,720 It's clear, I'm not an employer. 561 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,400 So, who's important here? Not me. 562 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,600 The businessman's critics were invited to a discussion - 563 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,920 which soon resembled a tribunal. 564 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,760 I grew up in this city. 565 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:46,560 What have you done so far, 566 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,880 aside from destroying the city? 567 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,240 I'm not done yet. I'm talking now! 568 00:30:58,200 --> 00:30:59,200 This hate... 569 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,800 you can physically feel it. 570 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,960 You can't tolerate it, that's crazy. 571 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,720 For three years now, the Reich flag bearers 572 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,800 and the imperialists 573 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,960 have been standing unannounced along the B96 in small groups. 574 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,200 They don't stand for Germany. I do. 575 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,360 At least once a month, 576 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,920 we create our own "hotspot" there. 577 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,840 Really beautiful, positive 578 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:29,400 but also funny. 579 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,440 Doing nothing is never the solution either, 580 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,760 because this desperation can make you really ill. 581 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:35,920 I'm not standing alone. 582 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:37,920 Not anymore. 583 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:39,640 Right-wingers do their thing. 584 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,920 But what's more important is what those around them do. 585 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,040 So, that's the most important thing. 586 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:45,400 And that, unfortunately, 587 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,080 is what either digs their grave or gives them a tailwind... 588 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:49,720 You take action. 589 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,040 And by doing something, 590 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:54,600 you feel better again. 591 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,560 I'm the enemy and that's creepy... 592 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,320 They weave you into their conspiracies. 593 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,560 You have to remain clear, 594 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,840 you're really just little Ms Kieschnick, but to them, 595 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,040 you're a very powerful part of the Jewish world conspiracy. 596 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,920 I want to encourage others. 597 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,640 But when people see everything I go through, 598 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,640 it leads more to, "For God's sake, 599 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,840 I don't need that. I want to protect my family, 600 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,680 so I'll stay behind the curtain, and they won't pick me up." 601 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,840 Serpil Unvar visits the locations 602 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,000 of right-wing extremist terror attacks 603 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:38,640 to learn from those affected 604 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,200 and the relatives of victims 605 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,160 how to handle this situation. 606 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,760 As an educational initiative, we've also started 607 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,880 a project that involves me visting 608 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,560 other countries, such as Norway, Greece, 609 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,480 Madrid, 610 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,600 Istanbul and now, of course, France. 611 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,640 Multiple gunshots were fired on a street lined with shops and cafes 612 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:05,320 in the capital's busy 10th district. 613 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,640 Three people, including a musician and a Kurdish 614 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,960 women's rights activist, are dead. Three more are injured. 615 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,400 In 2022, a racist attacker 616 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,000 targeted the Kurdish cultural centre in Paris. 617 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,440 The perpetrator was an ex-soldier and a former train driver. 618 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,680 Mr Malé had already 619 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,840 committed serious crimes in the past. 620 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,320 For example, he stabbed tents 621 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,360 of homeless migrants. 622 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:38,080 The perpetrator's mental state became a topic of discussion. 623 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,240 The psychological reports 624 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,560 declared him to be fully sane. 625 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,000 In a different incident, a man seriously injured two migrants 626 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,160 who had broken into his house. 627 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,800 However, he remained at liberty. 628 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,200 The French media have also been saying 629 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,240 that the suspect was only released from jail 630 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,800 just 10 days ago when he was under judicial monitoring. 631 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,560 That the man was able to murder unhindered 632 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,440 infuriated the Kurdish community. 633 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,320 {\an5}MEETING WITH ANTI-RACISM INITIATIVE "VOXPUBLIC" 634 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,400 {\an5}Servil has chosen a different path. 635 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,920 {\an5}In Paris, she meets people who are figthing against racism. 636 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,360 Yes, there's a lot of racism in Germany. 637 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,760 What I've seen, also in Kurdish communities, 638 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:24,720 is that we've lost our children. 639 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,920 People are brought together by great pain, 640 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,160 and when people come together, 641 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,320 they can bring about change. 642 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,440 Serpil wants to bring victims of violence together 643 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,440 whether the perpetrator was a right-wing radical 644 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,800 or murdered for other political reasons. 645 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:59,000 Regardless of which name - racism, Islamism or extremism - 646 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,120 ideologies are dangerous. 647 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,760 She also meets families affected by the jihadist attacks 648 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,800 in Paris in 2015. 649 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,200 I'm Georges Salines, I'm a member 650 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,000 of the Board of Directors 651 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,000 of the French Association of Victims of Terrorism. 652 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,040 I lost my daughter, 653 00:35:26,240 --> 00:35:29,400 Lola, at the Bataclan on 13 November 2015. 654 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,120 Georges has written a book 655 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:37,520 about his dialogue 656 00:35:37,720 --> 00:35:40,360 with Azdyne Amimour. 657 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,880 Amimour is the father of one of the Bataclan terrorists. 658 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,360 Lola was 28. 659 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,840 It's her birthday tomorrow. 660 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,520 Talking to the perpetrators and their families 661 00:36:05,720 --> 00:36:09,000 and perhaps also reconciling - a difficult path to walk. 662 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:18,000 An altercation, Sikh temple. 663 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:19,960 We have a victim down 664 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,720 in the front yard, and they're still hearing shots. 665 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,400 That day seven people lost their lives. 666 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:26,480 Man with a gun. 667 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,040 White T-shirt. 668 00:36:30,720 --> 00:36:32,920 A white racist targeted people at prayer 669 00:36:33,240 --> 00:36:35,440 in a Sikh temple, murdered them, 670 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,600 seriously injured a policeman 671 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,760 and then shot himself. 672 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,640 When I teach at school, I try to teach my students that 673 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,000 we're not that different. 674 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,680 The first time that I walked back inside the gurdwara 675 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,360 was one of the scariest days of my life. 676 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,520 They said, we took the blood out of the carpets, cleaned up the drywall. 677 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,600 They wanted to move forward and reclaim sanctuary. 678 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,720 But part of me was like, do we think it's that easy? 679 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,440 I think it became upon us to say, 680 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:18,120 how do we as a society stop the next shooting? 681 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,800 That became my mission over time. 682 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:23,440 SON OF A VICTIM OF TERRORISM 683 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:27,240 For me, the past 13, 14 years 684 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,320 has really been a crusade. 685 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,400 Satwant Kaleka was shot and killed 686 00:37:37,720 --> 00:37:39,840 along with five other fellow Sikhs. 687 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,960 The gunman, Wade Michael Page, described as a white supremacist... 688 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,080 Why did his father have to die? 689 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,440 {\an5}This is the question that drives Pardeep Kaleka. 690 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:50,720 The murderer, Wade Page, 691 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,440 was part of the Hammerskins group 692 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:56,440 and an important figure on the neo-Nazi music scene. 693 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,840 The big motive for me was to understand why somebody did it. 694 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,000 Pardeep heard from Arno Michaelis, 695 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,480 who was once a very influential Hammerskin member and musician 696 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,040 but has now been committed to the fight against hate for years. 697 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,280 Arno was also a Hammerskin like Wade Page. 698 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,520 I reached out to him shortly after the shooting. 699 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,320 We met at a restaurant, one a white supremacist, 700 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,320 another a police officer and a teacher. 701 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,560 Somehow, some way, our worlds collided. 702 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,600 We've been working together for the past almost 13 years. 703 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,600 Today he is my brother. 704 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,440 He is my friend. 705 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,080 They have since spoken publicly about their stories 706 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,480 and how they were able to overcome hatred. 707 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,200 I know from my experience 708 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,440 that fear is a prerequisite to hate. 709 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,880 It's really difficult to hate someone or something 710 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,640 if you're not scared out of your mind every day. 711 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,040 Part of me was wrestling with - 712 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:06,320 this person is a monster, 713 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,480 this person is not human. 714 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,840 Arno and Pardeep mainly visit schools 715 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,120 to engage in conversation with children and teenagers. 716 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:19,920 We would always ask the school, 717 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,680 hey, give us like two hours after the speech. 718 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,800 They were like, I don't think that many students are gonna come 719 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:28,840 and have questions for you afterwards. 720 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,120 We're like, no, trust us. 721 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,440 We would continuously have conversations with them. 722 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,200 Students who were like I'm going through this and this. 723 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:41,560 This is what I'm feeling like, I'm a cutter, I'm a harmer. 724 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:43,440 People were just letting us know 725 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,840 how suicidal they felt 726 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:50,160 and all Arno and I would do was just try to listen to their pain. 727 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:52,760 And so, over the years, 728 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,240 we were able to meet young man after young man after young man 729 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,080 who would stay after a talk 730 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,640 and say, hey, like, I really hated people. 731 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,400 When I'm working with people who are still radicalised, 732 00:40:09,720 --> 00:40:13,120 I am drawing upon a part of myself that's darker. 733 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,560 I see past the worst of who they are. 734 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:18,600 And just try to listen to their pain. 735 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,520 {\an5}One of Pardeep's connections is Chris Buckley, an ex-Nazi. 736 00:40:22,720 --> 00:40:26,800 {\an5}He also attempts to get young people away from the far-right scene. 737 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,680 I know what it feels like to be in the darkness 738 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,600 because I was that monster. 739 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,840 There's no shortage of people that are angry. 740 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:38,520 What we really liked 741 00:40:38,720 --> 00:40:42,960 when I was in was any kid with ADHD, 742 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:44,800 autism. 743 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:49,680 Those guys were some of the best producers of violence 744 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,680 because you find the needs that these kids have, 745 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,320 you meet them, they become loyal. 746 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,160 Once they bond with you, they will die for you. 747 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,120 A lot of them, they hate women 748 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,840 because they feel rejected by women. 749 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,400 I don't think that that's a real good reason to kill somebody, 750 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,240 but these guys do. 751 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,560 It doesn't matter if you agree with the grievance or not, 752 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,920 it's very real to the individual harbouring it. 753 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,440 Sometimes you even have to like passively agree 754 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:23,680 for a moment. 755 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,040 And then walk them back a little bit. 756 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,320 We might be the last line of defence 757 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,360 between that person and a mass casualty. 758 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,040 When Pardeep and former neo-Nazis Chris and Arno 759 00:41:36,240 --> 00:41:37,800 speak to teenagers, 760 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,120 the young people often have a very similar reaction. 761 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,320 We're talking about fear and about gratitude and forgiveness. 762 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,920 I think we reached about 20-30,000 students 763 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,440 just around the US. 764 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,400 One thing you learn over and over and over again 765 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:57,480 is just how deep that hatred is for themselves. 766 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,480 We are saying, hey, if you're a young man 767 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,680 going through some of these difficulties, come talk with us. 768 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,800 They come back and say, I hated to be in this skin. 769 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:10,800 And so, I projected all of this 770 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,880 blame towards everybody else. 771 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,320 I hate you because you're Jewish. I hate you 772 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:20,480 of colour, but listening to your stories together 773 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,520 as two men who are from different parts of the world, 774 00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:25,720 it gives me hope. 775 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,320 And it gives me insight into what I can do. 776 00:42:36,240 --> 00:42:38,320 PERPETRATOR'S CALL TO NORWEGIAN POLICE, 22 JULY 2011 777 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,640 In 2011, racist Anders Breivik murdered 778 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,040 77 people in Norway. 779 00:42:44,240 --> 00:42:46,680 Breivik said the bombing of central Oslo 780 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,080 and the slaughter of mainly young people on the island of Utøya 781 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:54,240 was just the start of a war against multiculturalism and Islam. 782 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:57,760 This act changed Norway 783 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,320 and still moves the country today. 784 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:07,760 We told each other never again. 785 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,640 We have to stand together and listen to each other, 786 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,920 but right now, I have no idea what to do, 787 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:17,600 to be completely honest with you 788 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,000 because the rapid spread of internet 789 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,760 and different truths 790 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:25,960 is really, really, really scary. 791 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,080 Some people are saying that we are all actors, 792 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,160 that never happened, we're paid. 793 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,760 We were cultural Marxists, 794 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:37,120 we deserved it. 795 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,960 It's a good example of how far it's come since 2011. 796 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,160 When Breivik detonated a bomb in Oslo, 797 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,560 he almost completely destroyed the government quarter. 798 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:49,600 It's still being rebuilt. 799 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:56,440 It took Breivik seven years 800 00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,640 to commit what he did and plan for it, 801 00:43:58,960 --> 00:43:59,920 so he started somewhere. 802 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:02,720 We also have to start somewhere. 803 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,160 And that's by going back to the basics, talk about democracy, 804 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,160 what it is, how it's relevant for us. 805 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,400 THE 22 JULY CENTRE, OSLO 806 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,720 Very shortly after the centre opened in 2015, 807 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,880 we saw that the population wanted teaching 808 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:30,640 about what happened. 809 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,680 Mostly it was teachers and pupils 810 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:37,320 who found it difficult to talk about the topic 811 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:38,600 in the classroom. 812 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,280 The centre acts as a memorial of the terror attacks 813 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,720 and organises seminars for young teachers. 814 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,280 They also learn what can be done to prevent future attacks. 815 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,000 Breivik was inspired by Al Qaeda and other terror organisations. 816 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,000 Also solo terrorists 817 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:56,560 from the far-right. 818 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,280 It's very important that it's been teached about 819 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:09,400 because I think it's very naive to believe it won't happen again. 820 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,960 It was planned, it goes way back. 821 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,960 It became a part of him, 822 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,400 and it can also happen to other people. 823 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:29,240 As part of their training, the young teachers visit the island Utøya, 824 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,920 where Breivik had primarily shot youths 825 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,960 who were taking part in a Labour Party summer camp. 826 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,080 He saw a danger in the immigration of Muslims 827 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,600 for which he held the Labour Party responsible. 828 00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:43,120 TRAINEE TEACHER 829 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,040 I guess my imagination, 830 00:45:46,240 --> 00:45:48,880 the island was this big and dark place. 831 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:54,040 I was 10 or 11 years old when that happened. 832 00:45:54,240 --> 00:45:57,200 Students in school now that I'm gonna be teaching, 833 00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:58,920 some of them weren't even born. 834 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,320 The values that have been a part of the island for so many years 835 00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:11,080 like equality, tolerance, solidarity were also attacked. 836 00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,520 It's a place where thousands of young people have engaged 837 00:46:18,720 --> 00:46:22,280 in political activities, social activities for almost a century now. 838 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,840 Many wander if we're going to walk in the footsteps 839 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,280 of Breivik here. The answer is no. 840 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,280 We're going to continue the history we had here 841 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,240 which is all about young people's engagement 842 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,040 and young people who have been involved 843 00:46:34,240 --> 00:46:37,400 in political activism from the beginning until now. 844 00:46:37,720 --> 00:46:39,240 But for the 47 who survived, the school 845 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:40,920 has become an important building. 846 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,560 The killing spree on the island lasted for over an hour. 847 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:53,120 Most of Breivik's victims were even younger than the students 848 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,640 being led across the island now. 849 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,160 Many of the youngsters 850 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,120 hid in the old cafe on the island. 851 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,240 Barricaded behind mattresses, 852 00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:06,800 they managed to survive. 853 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,400 The cafe is now a memorial site. 854 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:18,040 People have to know that democracy should not be taken for granted. 855 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,680 They get to engage in workshops 856 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,680 related to how this place can be 857 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,120 a symbol for democratic resilience. 858 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,240 On the island, the future teachers 859 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,560 also discuss how democracy can be strengthened. 860 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,000 We hear a lot that we left with an inspirational feeling, 861 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,280 but also a sense of responsibility 862 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,360 that we are part of something. 863 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,320 There's also hope because you can make change 864 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:49,960 and also showing that the island and society, we have moved on. 865 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:53,520 15,000 people 866 00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,760 attend different types of workshops on the island every single year, 867 00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,000 most of them being young people, 868 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:00,880 the next generation. 869 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,000 That's our hope - that the victims would have liked that. 870 00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,600 Pardeep Kaleka has stopped dozens of radicals 871 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,360 from acting out their hatred in an act of violence, 872 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,760 but has not found peace himself for a long time. 873 00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,400 No title is bigger than dad, 874 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:28,720 SON OF A TERROR VICTIM 875 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,760 so I wanna introduce my daughter. 876 00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,680 Amans, come save your dad up here. 877 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,600 And my daughter, she was six at the time. 878 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,560 And when she delivered the spoken word, she was 16. 879 00:48:45,240 --> 00:48:47,640 She got up there and she said to Wade Page, 880 00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:49,920 I wish you could have seen your failure, 881 00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,160 for you did not break us but united us. 882 00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,960 You are not a monster. You are just in pain. 883 00:48:59,240 --> 00:49:02,440 You are hurt, so you hurt people, 884 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,240 for I am not your enemy. You are. 885 00:49:05,720 --> 00:49:06,520 Thank you. 886 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:08,600 You didn't hate me. 887 00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:10,560 You hated yourself. 888 00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,240 She had forgiven what happened. 889 00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,880 And I knew that her future was bright. 890 00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:18,920 Forgiveness for me was freedom. 891 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,000 Activist and mother of one of the Tops 892 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,520 shooting victims, Zeneta Everhart has beaten India Walton. 893 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,000 PRE-ELECTIONS FOR THE CITY COUNCIL BUFFALO, 27 JUNE 2023 894 00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:34,640 This is for Zaire 895 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,800 because first, this community 896 00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:39,600 rallied around him 897 00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:41,080 and they still have. 898 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,800 {\an8}I needed to do something for this community, 899 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:49,200 {\an8}but I also needed to show Zaire change is possible. 900 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,320 Zeneta Everhart says she got called to go to the nation's capital 901 00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:56,840 earlier this week. 902 00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:02,000 President Biden announced a new gun violence prevention office, 903 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,120 and several gun violence survivors were invited to DC, 904 00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,120 including Zeneta Everhart. 905 00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:08,840 Look folks, there comes a point 906 00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:12,040 where our voices are so loud, our determination is so clear 907 00:50:12,240 --> 00:50:15,240 that our effort can no longer be stopped. We're reaching that point. 908 00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,200 {\an5}This will truly be the golden age 909 00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,800 {\an5}of America. That's what we have to know. 910 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,440 {\an5}Republican Donald Trump has claimed victory 911 00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,960 in the 2024 presidential contest. 912 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:41,840 When Joe Biden no longer ran for office, 913 00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,400 the Black candidate, Kamala Harris, 914 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,160 lost the election to Donald Trump 915 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,520 whose election campaign repeatedly included 916 00:50:48,720 --> 00:50:51,360 racist insults and outbursts. 917 00:50:51,720 --> 00:50:54,120 Zeneta Everhart warned about this and knows 918 00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:58,120 that her fight against white right-wing extremism has just begun. 919 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,960 This morning, the families of the 10 Black people shot 920 00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,280 and killed at their neighbourhood grocery store are 921 00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,160 preparing for a trial that could end with an execution. 922 00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:10,120 The Justice Department is seeking the death penalty for the killer. 923 00:51:13,720 --> 00:51:15,600 My personal stance is 924 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:17,800 I don't believe in the government taking 925 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:19,920 the life of any human. 926 00:51:20,240 --> 00:51:21,640 I don't want to see him die. 927 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:23,720 PAYTON GENDRON PERPETRATOR OF THE BUFFALO ATTACK 928 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,920 But for me, it's worth it. 929 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,520 It's always about the bigger picture. 930 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:36,360 I know that with the death penalty comes a trial. With that trial 931 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,400 comes evidence. 932 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,160 And there comes a conversation about race. 933 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,160 We can't legislate racism, 934 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,360 but the more you talk about how wrong it is, 935 00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,560 that's how you change hearts and minds. 936 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:53,560 That's big 937 00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:57,080 for stopping the next young white man 938 00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:58,920 from being radicalised. 939 00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,320 For many who resist, 940 00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,840 it often feels as though they're losing the battle against hate. 941 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:18,320 Sometimes, however, 942 00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,480 these people are moved by a gesture. 943 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:22,240 When Serpil Unvar 944 00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,240 celebrated her son's birthday with a gala in Hanau, 945 00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,160 half of the city turned up. 946 00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:28,560 He would have said to me, 947 00:52:29,240 --> 00:52:31,040 are you insane? 948 00:52:31,240 --> 00:52:33,360 Do you really think you can change something like this? 949 00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,360 And it pains me to realise 950 00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,320 {\an8}that after all these years, 951 00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:58,560 {\an8}there still doesn't appear to be 952 00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:00,000 {\an8}a common "we". 953 00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,520 The "others" are blamed far too often - 954 00:53:02,720 --> 00:53:03,960 the asylum seekers, 955 00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:05,280 the migrants, 956 00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,680 the Muslims. 957 00:53:09,240 --> 00:53:10,960 ... to stand by 958 00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:12,720 this initiative. 959 00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,800 And this commitment is permanent. 960 00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:18,320 Please, please continue. 961 00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:20,520 Don't give up. 962 00:53:32,240 --> 00:53:34,360 Today, I'm tired, but tomorrow 963 00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:36,720 I'll be back at full strength, 964 00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,200 and I can start again. 965 00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,600 I'm going to stay at the table. 966 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,440 I'm not getting up from this table 967 00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:48,040 until we see change. 968 00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,240 The fight against hate goes on 969 00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:56,600 because those who resist overcome their fear again and again, 970 00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:57,920 every single day. 971 00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:08,360 I don't live in fear. 972 00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:10,400 It's just not my lifestyle. 973 00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,440 I'm an instructor. I go out, I teach. 974 00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:17,280 I'm a musician. I sing, I go out, I'm up on stage. 975 00:54:18,240 --> 00:54:20,120 I guess that's a chance I take, right? 976 00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,520 I hope we never have another Timothy McVeigh. 977 00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:25,480 I hope we never have another 9/11. 978 00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:27,760 Be aware, 979 00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:29,120 you know. 980 00:54:30,240 --> 00:54:32,080 You don't have to walk around scared. 981 00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:34,200 Just don't put your blinders on. 982 00:54:35,305 --> 00:55:35,837 Support us and become VIP member to remove all ads from www.OpenSubtitles.org