Gold Rush: Dave Turin's Lost Mine
ID | 13204182 |
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Movie Name | Gold Rush: Dave Turin's Lost Mine |
Release Name | Gold.Rush.Dave.Turins.Lost.Mine.S03E20.The.Midas.Touch.480p.x264-mSD |
Year | 2019 |
Kind | tv |
Language | English |
IMDB ID | 9703198 |
Format | srt |
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I think what most people think of when they hear the term "lost mines"
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is an old shaft, a hole in the ground.
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It's mysterious. It's scary, you know,
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as a kid, you always wanted to go into those and look.
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Gold has captured the hearts and minds of people for centuries,
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bringing incredible wealth to some
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and disaster to others.
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Today, legendary miner Dave Turin...
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This is a pretty good pan. I like it.
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I think this is the best pan I've seen.
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... accelerates his own quest for riches...
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There's gold everywhere on this planet.
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The trick is to find it where you can make some money.
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-Oh -Oh, look at that.
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...exploring the untapped potential of abandoned hard rock mines...
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The best thing about hard rock mining is that the majority of the gold
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left on this planet is underground.
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...in spite of the dangers.
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The disadvantage to underground mining
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and hard rock mining is that it's dangerous...
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Whoa!
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...somewhat scary...
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It's really here. Scares the hell out you.
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Now Dave discovers a groundbreaking new mining process...
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- It's amazing. - It is. It's been an absolutely amazing journey.
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...that could change the future for him...
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Oh my gosh. You know how revolutionary that is?
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...his crew...
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This could totally push Team Turin where we need to be.
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...and mining forever.
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Nice! Really nice! Look at that.
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We're placer miners. I've developed a good team,
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but I think the future is in hard rock.
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The thing that I like about hard rock mining is the adventure.
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It's the unknown, you know, when you go into the center of the earth,
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it's a spooky, scary place,
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but there's 50,000 tons of gold left in the ground
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worth three and half trillion dollars, and I just need a fraction of that.
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So to me, the future of mining for gold is hard rock mining.
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People that came out to the gold rush that came across the Mississippi
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over the Colorado Rockies into California,
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they were all regular people.
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They were all searching for that American dream.
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By the mid 1850s, more than 300,000 immigrants
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arrive in the West, and the thirst for gold means
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the population triples in just ten years.
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So the first hard rock miners really were placer miners.
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They would go look in the stream beds.
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That's how you actually look for the source of the gold.
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And so they would go up and they'd see where
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that stream was coming from and the source of the gold.
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They might chip out some quartz and look for the visible gold,
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And then they'd start tunneling in.
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Miners soon realized that the visible veins of quartz
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lead to untold riches hidden deep within the hard rock.
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All they had was picks and shovels, and they'd just knock it out.
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And then if they found that visible gold,
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they'd crush it down, and then typically they'd pan it out and find that gold.
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At the peak of the rush in 1852
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81 million dollars of gold is pulled from the ground.
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The real guys that were in search of gold, they kept going,
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and a lot of those evolved into hard rock mining because they were the tougher ones.
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They were the ones that kept looking and searching,
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and they had to fight, the American wilderness.
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Hard rock miners are hard people.
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And now, 170 years later,
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Dave wants to join these hard rock legends of the past.
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Yeah, I've been looking at hard rock mining
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for a couple years, uh, started in Montana...
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Whoa!
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I've been to Nevada.
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Been to Alaska.
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This is the biggest tunnel I've ever seen.
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Transitioning into hard rock mining is not going to be easy.
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Right now, I'm just getting these guys
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used to being good placer miners.
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So for me and my crew to transition to hard rock mining,
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it's going to be a difficult, long road.
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You know, by the time you do the exploration,
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making those tunnels safe and then setting up a mill and a plant
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to extract the gold out of the ore, that's a long process
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and it's very, very expensive.
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But I think there's a heck of an opportunity, and I think
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that's the evolution of my crew is that we're going to keep looking,
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and one of these days we're going to find one that we're going to hit it big on.
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If we hit this, could it change our lives?
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Today, as Team Turin mines for gold
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in Lynx Creek, Arizona,
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Dave and Casey head 50 miles away
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to the lost mine of Rich Hill,
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home to legendary placer deposits.
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But it's an unexpected hard rock opportunity at the mine
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that could take his underground ambition to a whole new level.
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So we're getting close, going to a place called Rich Hill Mine,
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and Casey's the one that found it.
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There's a couple guys up there.
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It sounds like they're making some money, so we'd like to see if we can get in on it.
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Good to see you.
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We're in the middle of nowhere.
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Dave, I've found us a great property.
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Rich Hill. 1860s.
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There was a Union troop army that had a big storm
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and the animals went on the hill.
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Soldiers went up there and started picking up gold.
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- They were able to pick up potato-sized nuggets. - Potato-sized nuggets?
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That's the kind of place I want, Casey.
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I want to just be able to walk around,
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just pick up nuggets and put 'em in like a Easter basket or something.
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Is that what they did?
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In 1863, while on a prospecting trip
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in the Bradshaw Mountains, Captain Pauline Weaver
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discovers Arizona's richest source of placer gold at Rich Hill,
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starting a gold rush of epic proportions.
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At its peak in the 1880s, the area produces
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384 ounces of gold a week, over $730,000 in today's money.
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So these two brothers John and Andy I met,
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these guys have got some great ideas about mining.
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Not sure, but you got to see it for yourself.
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- You ready to go? - Yeah, I'm ready.
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- All right, you lead the way. - All right, let's go.
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You know, sometimes Casey has crazy ideas,
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and when he told me about Rich Hill, I was a little bit skeptical.
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Uh, lead me down the Golden Road.
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Show me the gold, Casey, Show me the gold.
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I like the way it looks, man.
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It looks like there's tailing piles all over that mountain.
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I see great evidence of mining. That gets me excited,
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because I know that there's gold there
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for men to put in that much effort to move that much dirt.
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There's gold in the ground.
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First step: Dave and Casey explore the 1000-acre claim
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on the hunt for placer gold deposits
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missed by the old miners.
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Casey and I are gonna go decode the land.
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You know, we'll get up high, start at the top,
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kinda work our way down some of these ravines.
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The water will re-concentrate the gold
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so hopefully we can find some gold in some of these streams.
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See if it's worth, you know, bringing equipment up here in placer mining.
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Casey.
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This is what I'm looking for, it's been untouched.
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Nobody's been in this little valley.
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It's all virgin ground.
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All right, I got my sample, so I'll go pan it.
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Doing a proper prospect is key to any successful mining adventure.
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You have to put in the time to do a proper prospect.
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The thing I like about prospecting is it's so basic.
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It's so historical.
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It's what everybody in history has done.
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This is a pretty good pan.
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I like it. I think, uh, this is the best pan I've seen.
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Casey, it looks to me like a pretty good spot.
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I got about, you know, eight decent-sized colors and some real fine stuff.
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So I like it.
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So this could be Team Turn's next place to mine.
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We could hit it big right here.
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But it's so difficult to set up
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a placer mining operation in the middle of the desert.
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This is getting expensive.
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I mean, you start looking at, you know, to get the equipment.
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- I know. - The other thing that's going to be a bigger cost
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is just trying to move our material.
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That's gonna be tough.
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Well, the way I'm seeing it, we're going to need about
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$300, 000 before we even start sluicing.
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I think it's going to be $20 to $30 a yard.
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If we don't see $20 a yard,
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I don't think we can do it.
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It's just so far out here.
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Big rocks, the big boulders.
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Yeah.
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To get a read on the value of the land,
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Dave and Casey must now run a yard of pay dirt
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through a miniature wash plant called a highbanker.
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We gotta make a decision on what ground we're gonna mine.
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And is it the right ground? Just cause we see a whole bunch of gold in here,
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did we prospect it right? Did we check everything?
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Everywhere I go placer mining, I'm usually the fourth or fifth miner there.
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It's all picked over.
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You really have to do your research
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to find little slivers that they all missed.
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Okay, fresh water.
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So it's encouraging.
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Seeing gold here.
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Will there be enough?
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Coming up...
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Dave digs deeper into hard rock...
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So this is the gold bearing veins here.
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...and Rich Hill reveals its secrets.
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Nice.
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Look at that. Look how bright it is.
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- Well, let's weigh it up, see what we got. - Okay.
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I like that sound.
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Tink! Tink! Tink!
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Legendary miner Dave Turin
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is on a placer prospect at Rich Hill Mine, Arizona.
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Yep, it's clicking. Its tinking.
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To determine if the ground is minable,
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Dave needs to see at least $20 of gold per yard.
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0.41 grams of gold.
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It gives us $15 dollars and 80 cents a yard. I
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About a little over 4 bucks,
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four and a half bucks short, five bucks short.
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That's not gonna work.
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You know what? I'm a little bit disappointed.
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I would have been happy to see 25,
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$30 a yard, but it's about 15,
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and that isn't going to quite make it.
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Well, that's our test.
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That's how we know whether a placer miner can make any money.
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I'm wondering, how did those brothers pay the bills?
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Their prospect a bust,
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Dave and Casey head to deliver the news to mine owners, the Ullary brothers.
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So that bulk test was kind of disappointing.
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And so in my head, I'm thinking to myself,
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how are those brothers staying alive?
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They've got quite a set-up, and if they're struggling
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on the placer side, how is it that they've got a mine
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and it's operating and functioning?
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Hey, Dave.
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Quite the operation, isn't it?
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Yeah. Lot bigger than you probably expected.
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No kidding.
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I was impressed, and it was intriguing.
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And I was very interested in figuring out what they have and how they do this.
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Dave, John and Andy Ullary.
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- Hi, Andy. Hi, John. - Casey, good to see you.
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You guys got quite an operation going here.
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You're not placer mining, right?
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Are you hard rock?
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It is. We're in an area that needs to be mined
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more of a hybrid direction.
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More of a way in which you can capture all that gold.
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You can't capture that small gold on a sluice.
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You have to do a different process on it.
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The rock here, when crushed down, has gold in it.
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So we've put together the plant here behind us.
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And you're making money?
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- We're pouring gold bars. - You're pouring gold bars?
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So now it's starting to click.
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I'm going, "Oh, they're crushing the gold out."
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Same thing they do with hard rock.
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These guys have a hybrid mine, which really, I've seen evidence
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of that same thing in Nixon Fork in Alaska.
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Last season, Dave's hard rock mission took him to Nixon Fork,
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a hybrid mine deep in the remote Alaskan wilderness,
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Nixon Fork had hard rock mining.
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But right next door in this creek, there's placer
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and the old timers hit the placer.
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And guess what? As they were doing the placer,
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they looked at that mine and go, "I'll bet you there's hard rock there."
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So Nixon Fork started in 1917.
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They've taken over seven tons of gold out of there.
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I mean millions and millions
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and millions of dollars worth of gold.
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To get the hard rock gold,
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the old timers burrowed into either side of the mountain,
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creating two tunnels called Mystery and Crystal.
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Owner Blane's reports suggest
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that between the two tunnels lies a motherlode of gold
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that could hold us much as a million ounces.
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This is the Crystal Mine.
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This one has several miles of underground workings.
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This is the biggest tunnel I've ever seen.
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As we're walking in, the water that was dripping off the top
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formed these beautiful ice stalagmites coming up from the ground
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with the light bouncing off of them.
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It was just like a fairyland. It was amazing.
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It's pretty amazing.
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But the scary part is when you get under there,
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those walls get closer and they start to settle in.
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There's an old mining hole here.
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Just avoid it, please.
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- Hey! - Get out from under that. I need you back.
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Right now, back. She's still loose right there.
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Whoa! Son of a gun. Whoa!
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There it is, there it is.
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To test the amount of gold left in the mine,
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Dave hunts out gold bearing quartz veins.
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You know they're getting a lot of gold when they build their tunnels this big.
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There it is. That's solid, and it's okay,
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so we're trying to get some good samples.
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That's a good... That's a good rock there. Make sure you get that.
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- Beautiful. - Got our sample.
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- All right. - I think we should take it to the assay lab
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and we'll put it in the furnace.
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It's impressive.
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There's a lot of gold taken out, and I believe there's
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a lot of gold left in. Proof's in the bag.
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We'll find out what's in there.
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At Nixon Fork you've gotta crush that rock,
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and to get the gold out of it, it's a very complicated, uh, chemical process.
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Abracadabra!
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It was pretty crazy.
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I felt like I was in, like, Merlin the Wizard's crazy laboratory.
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Blane mixes the crushed ore with a chemical mix
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known as a flux and heats the sample.
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So what's the temperature of your oven?
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Right now we're sitting at 2050 degrees Fahrenheit.
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It's very intensive, and I don't know much about that.
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It's not like placer mining, where you just use water and gravity
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and get the free gold.
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So this is a complicated process.
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After an hour of intense heat...
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- Are we ready? - Let's do it!
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Wow.
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The rock and chemical mix melt away, leaving behind pure gold.
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Oh, there it is right there.
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- Oh, that's better. - Yeah.
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Oh!
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Look at that! I like that one! Look at that.
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There we go. That's what we're looking for.
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One baby's a pretty good size.
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Look at how bright that gold is, though.
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Oh! Whoo! That's nearly a gram.
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Almost a gram out of that?
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- Out of that. - That little bit of ore.
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So with that sample right there, for each ton of ore
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today's gold price is $1991 per ton.
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- Whoo! - There we go.
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I placer mine and hope to get $20 a ton.
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So that's obvious.
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That's a door straight into hard rock mining, and now it's opening to me.
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That was a lot of gold, and, uh, it's really gonna give me
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something to think about.
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So Blane showed me how to fire assay.
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And that's not how you get gold out.
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That's way too expensive, takes a lot of energy to melt that out.
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So what Blane is using most of the time
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is a chemical process called cyanide leaching.
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When cyanide is introduced first
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in America in 1891, it sparks a second gold rush
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with the ability to extract gold from rock that had previously been impossible.
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Cyanide binds to the gold ions making them soluble in water,
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allowing them to separate from the rock.
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Cyanide is a dangerous chemical
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if it's not handled properly. What can happen is it could spill out.
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Many times that has happened.
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But when it first comes out, it's kind of nasty.
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It'll kill birds and animals, and... Look, you just gotta be careful with cyanide.
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So as I came up here, I saw a crusher.
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So you're crushing the rock, liberating the gold.
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How are you capturing the gold after you crush it?
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John was able to put together the leach that we have.
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- So you're leaching it? - We're leaching it.
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- Using cyanide? - No, sir, we are not. No, sir, we are not.
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You leach, but without cyanide.
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- That is correct. - I've never heard of that.
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We were in for permitting to do cyanide.
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And it's a very long, drawn-out process.
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But we just hate what it does to the environment.
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So John can leach out the gold and then add one more chemical to the leach,
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and it brings it back to a Ph of seven and just cleans it right up.
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I'm like, "No way." If that was the case,
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why isn't everybody using it, right?
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That's revolutionary.
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That could change the mining world.
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That could flip mining upside down.
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Dave Turin is on the hunt for hard rock secrets at Rich Hill, Arizona.
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Mine owners John and Andy Ullary have just revealed
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their cyanide-free method of extracting gold from hard rock.
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For these guys to find a way to leach not using cyanide,
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using something that's biodegradable, that's amazing.
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But before Dave sees the process, he first wants to investigate the rock.
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So the Ullary brothers and their process is revolutionary.
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It blew my mind.
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If those guys were telling me the truth,
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I want to see proof, and I want to know more about it.
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Well, I'm anxious to see what's here.
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I love looking at the land.
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You guys have a cut bank or something
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- that we could kind of look at decode? - We do.
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- Let's go take a look. - I'm all about that.
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So here's bedrock, right?
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- Yes, sir. - Well, you got a heck of a seam right here.
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Look at that. Look at that.
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You're finding free gold, probably, in this, as your placer, right?
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But you're also finding gold in these kind of rocks.
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What we found is the granite rock here,
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when crushed down, has chunkier gold in it.
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What made you guys look in the granite?
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Because my thoughts is that the quartz
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in between the granite is where the gold is.
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Now you're saying this granite, the parent rock
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the parent ore is carrying gold?
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We tested it.
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It had to have formed inside that
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at a different timeframe than the vein
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or the other placerable material that's here.
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Most placer miners would have taken the gold and then left.
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But these guys figured out a way
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to get more value out of their land.
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This is really like trying to understand geology by...
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It's almost like drinking out of a firehose.
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There's that much volume of information,
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and I can't digest it all.
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Millions of years ago,
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Rich Hill is formed when thick volcanic magma
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slowly cools deep underground.
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Pressurized boiling water from the earth's core
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distributes gold and other minerals in quartz,
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but also in the surrounding rock,
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and slowly crystallizes into granite.
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Over time, seismic activity brings this rock to the surface
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and produces the large boulders which now carpet the land.
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Typically, granite doesn't carry gold.
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But you're telling me that some of these granite boulders have gold?
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- Yeah. - That's highly unusual, right?
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- Yes. - Right.
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When the Ullary brothers told me that they can get gold out of granite,
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I'm like, "What?"
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It's new to me because I've always chased quartz veins.
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Dave's hunt for gold-rich quartz veins begins one year ago
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when he heads deep underground in Montana's Miller Mountain.
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Going to Miller Mountain was pretty amazing.
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I had never really gone underground into tunnels,
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and so it was somewhat daunting, and I mean, in some ways
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it was kind of terrifying.
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Watch your head, guys.
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Oh, my gosh!
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Un-freaking-believable. It's a whole different world.
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As we traveled in, I'm thinking, "What kind of guy would do this?"
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And what was his motivation to live such a dangerous, scary life?
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One rock falls... he's there, buried alive and nobody would know.
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Show me the sign. "Danger. Drowning hazard."
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Over millions of years, molten minerals move
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through the mountain and deposit quartz.
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The old timers chase these gold-rich veins.
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Now Dave looks for unmined quartz
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the original miners left behind,
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hoping it still contains millions of dollars of gold.
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I didn't think I was claustrophobic, but I got claustrophobic.
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I don't know. It was scary.
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Okay?
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Trying to get up this one spot,
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"your brain saying, "Got million pounds of rock above your head.
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You're in a confined space."
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And then you start to panic.
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If you don't... You know, a lot of times, if you don't try something,
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if you don't overcome your fears,
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you don't know what you're capable of.
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A quarter of a mile underground,
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Dave finally reaches the end of the old timers' tunnels...
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and untapped gold-rich quartz veins.
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See that quartz right there?
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- They were chasing a vein. - Holy crap. Look at this.
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There should be gold in this.
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So this is the gold-bearing veins here.
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So they only took as much as they had to.
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That's correct.
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So that was the first time I'd ever been that close and personal to an old time miner.
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Because I was right there on my elbows and my knees
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and chipping away with a little tiny light.
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His chip marks are still there.
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We heading out?
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Okay.
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Alright.
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All right, you guys, here we go.
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All right! Sunshine! Whoo!
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That was crazy. At first underground scared the hell out of me.
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I gotta hand it to the old timers.
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Takes a special guy to crawl underground and do that kind of work.
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It was fun to, you know, to do my first hard rock mining,
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but in the end, it didn't work for us.
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I'd say that's a little less than a quarter of a gram of gold.
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Opening a hard rock mine is very, very expensive.
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I could go placer mining for half a million dollars.
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And to open up a hard rock mine,
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it's ten times that.
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Probably five million dollars.
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Yeah, if you want to go into hard rock mining, you better have a lot of money
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or a lot of investors. It's so expensive because you're tunneling in.
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But Andy and John are above ground,
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so it's kind of a revolutionary way to hard rock mine.
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They got to be making money because they've got
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a lot of money invested in there.
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Will it change the face of mining in America?
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For the world maybe? I don't know. I need to find out.
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Coming up, Dave takes it to the next level...
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The big boulders concentrate the gold.
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So this is a good spot to look.
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...and uncovers Rich Hill's secrets.
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- Show me your gold. - Let's go.
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Show me your gold, John.
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In Rich Hill, Arizona, mine owners John and Andy Ullary
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have revealed a secret that could change the future of mining.
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What John and Andy have is no cyanide, and they're leaching,
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so it's completely environmentally safe.
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The odds of finding something like that? Unbelievable.
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Look, these guys are pioneers.
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They are pioneering a new way to leach gold out of ore.
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I was impressed because they're making money.
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For hundreds of years, the hunt for gold
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sees men push the boundaries of engineering to the limit.
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Necessity is the mother of invention.
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I don't know if it makes you smarter, but it makes you more creative
498
00:28:42,950 --> 00:28:44,980
because you're going to starve to death
499
00:28:45,020 --> 00:28:48,130
if you don't find that gold, and you know the gold's there,
500
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:49,690
so you try different methods.
501
00:28:51,860 --> 00:28:53,490
For hard rock miners,
502
00:28:53,530 --> 00:28:58,360
what starts with picks and shovels to crack open the rocks and hunt for gold
503
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,270
takes a leap forward with the onset of steam
504
00:29:01,300 --> 00:29:05,440
and air-powered drilling and advancements in explosives.
505
00:29:05,470 --> 00:29:08,470
And now tunnels can be made longer and deeper
506
00:29:08,510 --> 00:29:11,880
as they chase new gold-bearing veins.
507
00:29:11,910 --> 00:29:14,550
In the 1900s, we started to develop
508
00:29:14,580 --> 00:29:17,480
a lot better techniques of hard rock mining.
509
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,150
The invention of dynamite, because in the past
510
00:29:20,190 --> 00:29:22,790
they were using black powder, which was pretty unstable,
511
00:29:22,820 --> 00:29:26,630
very dangerous. Dynamite, much more stable.
512
00:29:26,660 --> 00:29:30,100
You could put it where you want it, and you could light a fuse
513
00:29:30,130 --> 00:29:36,000
or ignite it when you wanted it to ignite, which really changed hard rock mining.
514
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,610
Now those guys could blast out a ton of rock in say,
515
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,240
an hour after drilling the holes.
516
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,640
Now they're moving... Literally, they're moving mountains.
517
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,850
In 2019, I go visit Lovitt Mine,
518
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,790
which was incredible to see the advances.
519
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,190
High in the northern cascade mountains,
520
00:29:59,230 --> 00:30:04,230
Washington State's Lovitt Mine has stood abandoned for over 50 years.
521
00:30:06,870 --> 00:30:11,340
What was so incredible was to see how big they could make some of these mines
522
00:30:11,370 --> 00:30:16,040
and some of these tunnels, over 12 miles of tunnel in this mountain.
523
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:20,380
Lovitt Mine is a feat of old timer engineering expertise.
524
00:30:20,410 --> 00:30:23,720
With ten levels of tunnels bored deep into the mountain,
525
00:30:23,750 --> 00:30:26,750
the lowest at 700 feet above sea level,
526
00:30:26,790 --> 00:30:29,690
the highest 1700 feet.
527
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,360
Today, the middle level is where it is believed
528
00:30:32,390 --> 00:30:35,430
the best gold still waits to be found.
529
00:30:38,100 --> 00:30:39,600
What year were you mining here?
530
00:30:39,630 --> 00:30:45,040
1962, 1967 when it closed up.
531
00:30:45,070 --> 00:30:46,410
Wow. You were here.
532
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,510
You're part of the old fixture.
533
00:30:48,540 --> 00:30:50,880
- Wow. That's quite the history. - Yeah.
534
00:30:50,910 --> 00:30:54,810
You know, I suppose when you do the same job as somebody else,
535
00:30:54,850 --> 00:30:58,050
for many years, you have some things in common.
536
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,550
And Jim was a great guy, and we just connected.
537
00:31:01,590 --> 00:31:03,790
I mean, we're both miners. We both worked the ground.
538
00:31:03,820 --> 00:31:05,220
We've gotten gold.
539
00:31:05,260 --> 00:31:08,230
And it was just a lot of fun because he was, you know,
540
00:31:08,260 --> 00:31:11,460
an old timer shared stories.
541
00:31:11,500 --> 00:31:12,560
It was pretty cool.
542
00:31:16,340 --> 00:31:17,400
Open it up, Jim.
543
00:31:18,300 --> 00:31:20,610
- Okay. - There you go.
544
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,140
Ooh! This is a little scary.
545
00:31:24,210 --> 00:31:26,580
Look at the size of that rock that they left there.
546
00:31:26,610 --> 00:31:28,380
That's a big no-no, Dave.
547
00:31:28,410 --> 00:31:30,780
They should have never left a belly like that.
548
00:31:30,820 --> 00:31:34,490
So I've got an engineering background and I understand physics.
549
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,690
When you're underground, you've got a million tons above you.
550
00:31:38,730 --> 00:31:42,060
And I also know that if there's nothing supporting that,
551
00:31:42,130 --> 00:31:43,900
that gravity will take over.
552
00:31:43,930 --> 00:31:45,930
So as I looked out into some of these rooms,
553
00:31:45,970 --> 00:31:49,130
I'm thinking to myself, "That doesn't look very structurally sound."
554
00:31:52,370 --> 00:31:59,140
So I was a little bit scared, a little bit tense and anxious about, uh,
555
00:31:59,180 --> 00:32:01,750
some of the big voids in that mountain.
556
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,210
- Looks to me like this just fell out. - Yep.
557
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,320
So inside Lovitt mine, it was almost like a honeycomb.
558
00:32:38,350 --> 00:32:43,260
There wasn't enough support, and all of a sudden, it just let loose and caved in.
559
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,760
Oh my goodness. Look over here. It's just fell out.
560
00:32:51,970 --> 00:32:54,970
Oh yeah, okay. This makes sense.
561
00:32:56,940 --> 00:33:00,870
You can only mine it so long, the structure starts falling apart.
562
00:33:00,910 --> 00:33:04,210
It starts imploding. Collapsing on itself.
563
00:33:05,550 --> 00:33:06,880
Yeah, this is a little spooky.
564
00:33:10,550 --> 00:33:12,720
In the end, it would just cost too much money.
565
00:33:12,750 --> 00:33:15,150
The dangers, the risks
566
00:33:15,190 --> 00:33:19,490
and the amount of money that it costs to rehabilitate all those tunnels...
567
00:33:19,530 --> 00:33:21,660
It didn't match the gold that we saw in the pan.
568
00:33:25,870 --> 00:33:28,400
Through the years of chasing these lost abandoned mines,
569
00:33:28,430 --> 00:33:31,640
I've seen how technology has advanced us
570
00:33:31,670 --> 00:33:33,370
and what it's done is that
571
00:33:33,410 --> 00:33:37,540
it allows us to go deeper and longer and find more gold, right?
572
00:33:37,580 --> 00:33:40,910
But it also lends itself to hazard.
573
00:33:40,950 --> 00:33:45,080
Look at the Lovitt mine. Because they went deeper and they got more ore out,
574
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,050
it became very dangerous.
575
00:33:53,230 --> 00:33:57,760
The next evolution has to include environmentally safe things,
576
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,370
taking care of the land, putting the land back.
577
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:05,400
And I wonder if Andy and John is the next step.
578
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,640
The next big step that takes mining,
579
00:34:07,670 --> 00:34:10,680
not only safe, but it's green.
580
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:12,810
Look at the size of those.
581
00:34:12,850 --> 00:34:14,410
You guys got some big boulders here.
582
00:34:14,450 --> 00:34:16,350
- Yes, sir, we do. - Is that why you got big excavators?
583
00:34:16,380 --> 00:34:18,480
That is why we have a big excavator.
584
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,350
I really want to go see Andy and John's plant
585
00:34:21,390 --> 00:34:23,990
and see how it works and functions.
586
00:34:24,020 --> 00:34:27,490
How about if Casey and I just prospect and we find
587
00:34:27,530 --> 00:34:29,960
a good yard of dirt, what we think's good yard?
588
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,300
Run it through your leaching process.
589
00:34:32,330 --> 00:34:35,230
I would love to see how much gold you're getting with your process.
590
00:34:35,870 --> 00:34:37,100
We'll show you.
591
00:34:37,140 --> 00:34:38,240
We'll take that challenge on.
592
00:34:39,870 --> 00:34:42,870
Coming up, the Ullary brothers reveal...
593
00:34:42,910 --> 00:34:45,610
Basically, you make flour, rock flour.
594
00:34:45,650 --> 00:34:48,250
...their revolutionary leaching process.
595
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:49,610
Nice.
596
00:34:49,650 --> 00:34:50,820
Really nice.
597
00:34:50,850 --> 00:34:51,920
Look at that.
598
00:34:57,420 --> 00:35:00,390
There are so many dangers and risks in underground mining.
599
00:35:00,430 --> 00:35:03,460
You've got this steel poker that you poke the rock
600
00:35:03,500 --> 00:35:06,470
and it's called sounding, and it makes a "ting."
601
00:35:07,830 --> 00:35:09,600
That means it's solid rock.
602
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,040
If you go and you just hit it and it goes "thud,"
603
00:35:14,170 --> 00:35:15,740
it means there's air behind that piece of rock
604
00:35:15,780 --> 00:35:18,840
and you have to knock it off because that's a dangerous piece of rock.
605
00:35:19,950 --> 00:35:21,980
Woah!
606
00:35:22,010 --> 00:35:24,150
That right there could have been a serious headache.
607
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:34,130
Lost mine hunter Dave Turin is on a hard rock mining mission...
608
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:35,830
I see some sunshine!
609
00:35:35,860 --> 00:35:38,100
...and after a bust placer prospect...
610
00:35:38,900 --> 00:35:41,130
Sluicing, you need clean water.
611
00:35:41,170 --> 00:35:43,500
Well, look where we're at. In the middle of the desert.
612
00:35:43,540 --> 00:35:46,570
...Dave finds that the real gold at Rich Hill...
613
00:35:46,610 --> 00:35:49,610
- We're pouring gold bars. - You're pouring gold bars?
614
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,840
...is a revolutionary hard rock process...
615
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,580
So you're telling me you have a cyanide-less way
616
00:35:56,620 --> 00:35:59,650
- to leach gold, without cyanide? - Exactly.
617
00:35:59,690 --> 00:36:03,790
...with the potential to change his life and mining forever.
618
00:36:06,390 --> 00:36:08,460
So Casey and I are gonna go find some ground.
619
00:36:08,490 --> 00:36:12,860
I want the Ullary brothers to crush it and run it through their leach process.
620
00:36:12,900 --> 00:36:16,330
I'm really interested in seeing their whole process
621
00:36:16,370 --> 00:36:18,870
to see, you know, if it is valid?
622
00:36:26,110 --> 00:36:29,080
So what I'm doing is I'm digging under the big boulders.
623
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,020
The big boulders concentrate the gold.
624
00:36:32,050 --> 00:36:33,620
So this is a good spot to look.
625
00:36:40,660 --> 00:36:42,730
With the yard of dirt collected,
626
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,100
John and Andy are ready to give Dave a tour of their plant.
627
00:36:47,770 --> 00:36:49,870
I've been around rock crushing my whole life,
628
00:36:49,900 --> 00:36:53,910
and I was very interested in figuring out what they have and how they do this.
629
00:36:58,240 --> 00:37:02,110
Right here, Dave. We're feeding in the material in the back end of the ball mill.
630
00:37:02,150 --> 00:37:03,780
- I'll show you what's inside the ball mill. - Okay!
631
00:37:03,820 --> 00:37:06,050
So over here we have balls.
632
00:37:07,690 --> 00:37:09,850
We have about 80 tons of balls.
633
00:37:09,890 --> 00:37:12,020
You got 80 tons of these.
634
00:37:12,060 --> 00:37:14,230
So they sit there and they roll on each other?
635
00:37:14,260 --> 00:37:16,390
They just spin around in the weight,
636
00:37:16,430 --> 00:37:19,230
they just collapse on top of each other and crush the rock.
637
00:37:19,270 --> 00:37:22,230
You're crushing your rock to the size of the gold.
638
00:37:22,270 --> 00:37:25,540
- And that frees that gold out of that ore. - Exactly.
639
00:37:25,570 --> 00:37:30,510
You're basically making, like, flour. Rock flour.
640
00:37:30,540 --> 00:37:33,950
They want to get as much gold out of that ore as they possibly can.
641
00:37:35,310 --> 00:37:39,320
And then as you continue in, you see the big, huge tanks
642
00:37:39,350 --> 00:37:41,220
where they're leaching the material.
643
00:37:41,250 --> 00:37:42,990
So this is where all the magic happens?
644
00:37:43,020 --> 00:37:44,860
This is where all the magic happens right here, Dave.
645
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,760
The rock dust is then mixed with water,
646
00:37:48,830 --> 00:37:52,760
turning it into a slurry, and the secret solution is added.
647
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,330
So right now, our goal in this right here
648
00:37:55,370 --> 00:37:58,070
is to allow the solution to get around all the rocks.
649
00:37:58,100 --> 00:38:01,040
You're leaching solution gets into the rocks,
650
00:38:01,070 --> 00:38:05,680
pulls the gold in the solution and then it's in that liquid form, right?
651
00:38:05,710 --> 00:38:07,350
The gold is in the liquid.
652
00:38:07,380 --> 00:38:11,650
Let me ask you something. So typically in probably... What would you say?
653
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:17,490
...99% of gold leach processes, this is your cyanide process, correct?
654
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:18,820
Yes, it would be.
655
00:38:20,930 --> 00:38:22,630
Similar to cyanide,
656
00:38:22,660 --> 00:38:28,000
the Ullarys' non-toxic leach captures the gold by seeping into the rock ore.
657
00:38:28,030 --> 00:38:31,170
It binds to the tiny gold particles,
658
00:38:32,670 --> 00:38:35,510
freeing the precious metal from the rock.
659
00:38:37,140 --> 00:38:39,640
So you've eliminated the cyanide?
660
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,710
What's in here is actually biodegradable?
661
00:38:42,750 --> 00:38:44,080
Environmentally friendly?
662
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,380
- Yes, it is. It is. - It's amazing.
663
00:38:46,420 --> 00:38:49,290
I don't suppose we'd want to bathe in that, though.
664
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,590
It wouldn't hurt you, but no, I wouldn't want to bathe in it.
665
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:55,990
Well, they found a way to do it
666
00:38:56,030 --> 00:38:58,560
that's biodegradable, environmentally friendly
667
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:03,070
and, they claim, that could do just as good as cyanide leaching.
668
00:39:03,100 --> 00:39:05,470
So that, to me, is a pioneer.
669
00:39:07,510 --> 00:39:09,310
24 hours later...
670
00:39:09,340 --> 00:39:11,340
The secret. No cameras allowed in here.
671
00:39:11,380 --> 00:39:12,640
This is where it all happens.
672
00:39:15,310 --> 00:39:18,380
There you go.
673
00:39:18,420 --> 00:39:22,390
...the gold-bearing pulp is heated to 1500 degrees
674
00:39:22,420 --> 00:39:26,360
burning off the impurities to leave pure gold.
675
00:39:26,390 --> 00:39:27,830
You know, that's the moment of truth.
676
00:39:27,860 --> 00:39:30,500
How much gold is in that ore?
677
00:39:30,530 --> 00:39:32,630
- Let's do it. - All right, show me your gold.
678
00:39:32,670 --> 00:39:35,070
- Let's go. - Show me your gold, John.
679
00:39:39,910 --> 00:39:40,940
Well, there it is.
680
00:39:44,010 --> 00:39:46,680
Nice, really nice.
681
00:39:46,710 --> 00:39:47,750
Look at that.
682
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,380
Look how bright it is.
683
00:39:50,420 --> 00:39:54,720
John's leach removes over 90% of the gold from the rock.
684
00:39:54,750 --> 00:39:59,460
Compared to Dave and Casey's $15-a-yard placer bulk test,
685
00:39:59,490 --> 00:40:03,800
John and Andy's process claims almost five times as much gold
686
00:40:03,830 --> 00:40:08,170
from the same ground, making it worth over $70 a yard.
687
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,670
That's a lot. I didn't expect to see that much, John.
688
00:40:11,700 --> 00:40:15,670
Oh my gosh, John is amazing. He's a hard-working guy
689
00:40:15,710 --> 00:40:22,010
that's figured out a way to dissolve gold without using cyanide.
690
00:40:22,050 --> 00:40:26,680
You know how revolutionary that it is? That could change mining.
691
00:40:26,720 --> 00:40:30,490
So for me, I got to figure out what that means to me and my crew.
692
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,960
We got a big boost in technology on Team Turin today.
693
00:40:33,990 --> 00:40:37,900
We just got a huge leap from being placer miners,
694
00:40:37,930 --> 00:40:41,400
to seeing that we can make a lot more money in mining than we ever knew possible.
695
00:40:45,300 --> 00:40:48,370
I've learned so much from this hard rock mining experience.
696
00:40:48,410 --> 00:40:51,610
You know, the adventure, the journey. I've learned about the history...
697
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,310
...and what it allows us to do is learn from our past
698
00:40:56,350 --> 00:40:58,450
so that we don't make the same mistakes.
699
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:02,550
You can only mine it so long. The structure starts falling apart.
700
00:41:02,590 --> 00:41:08,790
And if we do that, I think the future is really with the Ullary brothers' system.
701
00:41:08,830 --> 00:41:10,260
And we could be a big part of it.
702
00:41:10,300 --> 00:41:11,600
Using cyanide?
703
00:41:11,630 --> 00:41:13,130
No, sir. We are not.
704
00:41:13,170 --> 00:41:17,040
- We are not. - You leach but without cyanide?
705
00:41:17,070 --> 00:41:19,440
I think, after I've met the Ullary brothers
706
00:41:19,470 --> 00:41:24,110
and seen their process, I think hard rock mining and that gold,
707
00:41:24,140 --> 00:41:27,680
that vision, that dream is more clear than it's ever been,
708
00:41:27,710 --> 00:41:29,350
and I'm excited about it.
708
00:41:30,305 --> 00:42:30,207
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