"Eastern Wisdom and Modern Life" On Being Vague
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Movie Name | "Eastern Wisdom and Modern Life" On Being Vague |
Release Name | Eastern Wisdom and Modern Life S01E11 OnBeingVague1959 |
Year | 1959 |
Kind | tv |
Language | English |
IMDB ID | 27478207 |
Format | srt |
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Eastern wisdom and modern life.
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With Alan W. Watts.
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Alan Watts is a
scholar, lecturer,
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and the author of many widely read books
on comparative philosophy and religion.
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You know, it's not surprising
that in this day and age, the
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most up-to-date and respectable
form of academic philosophy
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taught in our universities, is
what is called logical analysis.
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A logical analyst, you know, is the kind of
fellow, the moment you say something, you hardly
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get a word out of your mouth before he says,
now just precisely what do you mean by that?
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You can't take a step
of the way in unfolding
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a proposition or
a thesis or an idea
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without his going minutely into the
meaning of each word that you say.
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And as a result of this sort of technique, most
logical analysts have come to the conclusion that the
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problems that have been discussed by philosophers for
several thousand years are mostly meaningless problems.
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Because when you look very
precisely at the form of words in
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which they're stated, and you
analyze each word bit by bit,
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you come to the conclusion that it didn't really mean anything but I think
there's a profound fallacy in this because it's based on the assumption that
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the meaning of words is supposed to be precise but unfortunately for this
sort of approach to things we're living in a world which isn't precise where
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Nature on the whole
is extraordinarily vague.
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I mean, it would be very nice for
purposes of precise calculation if
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the Earth in its orbit around the
Sun went round in a neat 360 days.
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But it doesn't.
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It goes round in 365 in
some wretched fraction.
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Everything's a little odd.
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Everything's a
little off-center.
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For example, how are we to
decide exactly where now is?
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You know?
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When is now?
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If I look at my watch and take a good
look at the second hand to find out exactly
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when now is, well, that second hand,
I can see it, so it must have some size.
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So let's take out a
magnifying glass.
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Then it appears that the thing
that marks now looks about so wide.
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And then, well, let's draw it a
bit finer and draw it a bit finer.
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But we never seem to be able
to get to the end of analyzing it.
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Now, you see, it's fuzzy.
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It's vague.
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It's like
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the field of vision which you have in front of your
eyes you can see clearly in the middle but going
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out to the sides things get a little bit blurred or
where exactly does the head stop and the neck begin?
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You hear?
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You hear?
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You hear?
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We can't really decide the only way to be
perfectly clear about where the head stops and
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the neck begins is to chop off the head then
you've got a neat dividing line in other words
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The whole process of analysis is a
process of chopping, of cutting apart,
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of approaching nature with a knife,
with a dividing line, with a scalpel.
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And although there is most definitely
a place in life for precision, for clear
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distinctions, for the attitude of the knife,
this kind of thing can be enormously overdone.
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And if one approaches the poet, I remember a cartoon once I saw in a
newspaper, showed Shakespeare walking on the clouds of immortality, holding his
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head in his hands, oh, he was being pursued by a pedestrian little man wearing
a cap and gown, saying, Mr. Shakespeare, your use of the conjunction if.
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And one knows all too well
a certain style of personality
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which likes to be precise.
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The sort of person who, always in
his opinions and attitudes, seems
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to be using his thought as a means
of tearing other people to pieces.
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Isn't it wonderful to be equipped
with a rigorous philosophical
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method that can tear all
fuzzy thinking to shreds?
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You know the kind of person
who says, I don't like fuzziness.
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I like to be definite,
clear, and meticulous.
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You always feel that person has got his knife
in your life or sometimes you meet among
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scientists sort of person who likes to talk
about brute facts why must facts be brute?
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Hard and clear facts aren't there
also facts that are soft and vague?
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But you see that kind
of attitude represents
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and in a way
caricatures something
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that is, on the whole, rather
characteristic of the total
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attitude of Western
civilization to the environment.
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You know, one of the first
things that Oriental peoples
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notice about us so-called
white people is our noses.
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After all, the bridge of a
Chinese nose is rather flat.
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Same with Negroes.
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And when they see us
Caucasians for the first time,
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What they notice about us is this
nose that goes out like this, and seems
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to be prodding into everything, and
the deep-set eyes with a fixed stare.
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If you look at old Japanese screens, which show what we
call caricatures, but what they thought were fairly good
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representations of the first Western people they saw, they
look like penguins or goblins because of their long noses.
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For it seems that this
Western man has this
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prodder out in front of
him, which is into everything.
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He can't leave anything alone.
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And although, as I say, there is a place
for precision, nevertheless, a fundamentally
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hostile, cutting up attitude to life gives us
dead knowledge instead of living knowledge.
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It kills things.
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You know,
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It's a way of approaching
everything rather on the
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lines of the old story about
Achilles and the tortoise.
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You know perhaps the problem
of Achilles and the tortoise.
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Achilles and the tortoise agree to
have a race, but because Achilles
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can run twice as fast as the
tortoise, the tortoise gets a head start.
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Achilles begins here,
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and the tortoise begins here.
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Now then, when the tortoise has gone half the distance
between his starting point and Achilles' starting point,
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when the tortoise goes that much and is here, Achilles,
who can run twice as fast, moves from here to here.
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The tortoise goes half as far as that distance Achilles does twice as
much and he lands up here and then the tortoise goes half as far as he
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went again and lands up here Achilles does twice as much and he's here
and so the tortoise goes half as far again and Achilles does twice as much
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and he lands up here and notice you see he, Achilles is still behind the tortoise and the next time
the tortoise will go half as much as that and Achilles will come up to here and we shall go on doing
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this thinking about smaller and smaller and smaller intervals and as a result of this Achilles will
never overtake the tortoise now of course in actual life Achilles jolly well does overtake the tortoise
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and goes right by him.
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That why this is a problem
is it is a way of thinking about
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the situation that is infinitely
and indefinitely analytical.
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It doesn't, as it were, let life go on, but
it stops to analyze the whole business.
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It breaks it down into
minuter and minuter and
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minuter quantities so that
the whole thing is delayed.
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The whole situation is, as
it were, stopped and killed.
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And this will always
happen whenever we get into
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the bind, the rut, of trying
to think too precisely.
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And it's for this reason that the Taoists, and I
think also the Confucian philosophers of China,
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are very mistrustful of logic chopping, of
being too analytical about the meaning of words.
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Let's take, for example, a word
that is absolutely fundamental to
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Chinese thought, a word which
I've used a great deal in this program.
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Tao.
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You know this is in
English, spelled this way.
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Tao, in Chinese,
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We usually translate that,
the way, the way of nature, the
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way of things, but that's only
one of its many meanings.
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Indeed, the term is so difficult to
define that Lao Tzu, you know this
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man, the man who was the founder
of Taoist philosophy, L-A-O-T-Z-U,
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Lao Tzu started out his book by saying and this is a
phrase which already shows how many meanings the word has
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Tao which can be Tao but here the word means spoken it
has that double meaning but Tao which can be spoken is not
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the eternal, the regular, or you might say the real Tao oh yes, he was inconsistent
he then went on to write a whole book about it but really the whole purport of
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the book is to show that Tao the fundamental nature of the world is something you
cannot get too precise about you can't think about it and understand it that way
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In other words, what is the
fundamental basis of one's
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life, as of one's thought,
always has to remain undefined.
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You see, if you insist, and Chinese philosophers and
scholars always are very clear about this, if you
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insist on defining words meticulously, you always
have to have other words to define your definitions.
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And then you have to have
words to define those words,
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and words to define those
words, and there's no end to it.
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But otherwise you can get around this by
going in a circle, which is that, you know,
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when you look up the dictionary and you look
up to be, you find the definition to exist.
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All right, you look up to exist
and you find the definition to be.
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And then where are you?
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Either you go around in a circle,
which fundamentally tells you nothing, or
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else you go on and on and on, getting
more meticulous, and you never arrive.
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Once, a Western psychologist
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asked a Chinese friend,
what do you mean by Dao?
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And the friend said, go
and look out of the window.
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And he went and
looked out of the window.
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What do you see?
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He said, I see
houses in the street.
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What else?
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I see people moving around.
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What else?
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I see clouds in the sky.
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What else?
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And the wind was blowing.
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The Chinese extended his hands
like this and said, that is the Dao.
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And so I remember, too, a very great
Japanese artist who was teaching over here in
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the United States, and he was always being
pressed by his students to define himself.
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And he used certain expressions.
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They said, now, exactly
what do you mean?
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They were always saying this.
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And one day he got mad.
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And he said, what's
the matter with you?
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Can't you feel?
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And so it is that there
are certain basic ideas
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like Dao, which the
Chinese feel must come to us.
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We can't go out to get them.
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We can't grab them.
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They must come to us in the
same way as light comes to our eyes.
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This thing then is
mysterious and unknown.
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Like the hermit sage in one of the
most famous of all Chinese poems,
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jarred dowels, seeking
for the hermit in vain.
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I asked the boy
beneath the pines.
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He said, the master's gone
alone, herb picking somewhere
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on the mountain, cloud
hidden, whereabouts unknown.
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The whole power of the
poem is in the mysterious
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imprecision of the old
man's whereabouts.
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Which, somehow or other,
brings the spirit of the hermit
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sage closer to the inquirer
than an actual meeting.
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His absence says
more than his presence.
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Lost somewhere on the cloud-hidden
mountain, he communicates
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far more than if he had
come down to explain himself.
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And this spirit would
be totally missed
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by the literal-minded, no-nonsense sort of person who at
this point would want to clear away the clouds and the
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mystery, to rush in and find out just exactly where the
old fellow has gone and just what herbs he is picking.
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You know, it's absolutely impossible
to understand and appreciate
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our natural universe unless you
know when to stop investigating.
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In our restlessness,
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you're always tempted to climb every hill and cross every skyline to find out what lies
beyond yet as you get older and wiser it isn't just flagging energy but rather increasing
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wisdom that teaches you to look at mountains from below or perhaps just climb them a
little way or at the top you can no longer see the mountain and beyond on the other side
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There is perhaps just
another valley like this.
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An old Indian aphorism says, what
is beyond is that which is also here.
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And you mustn't mistake this for a
kind of blasé boredom, tiring of adventure.
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It's the startling
recognition that in the
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place where we are now,
we have already arrived.
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This is it.
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What we are seeking is if we
are not totally blind already here.
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For if you must follow that trail up
the mountainside to its bitter end,
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you will discover that it leads
eventually right back to the suburbs.
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But only an exceedingly
stupid person will
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think that that's where
the trail really goes.
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For the actual truth is
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that the trail goes to every
single place that it crosses.
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It leads also to where you
are standing and watching.
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Watching it vanish
into the hills, you are
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already in the true
beyond to which it leads.
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Many a time, I have had
intense delight in listening
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to some hidden waterfall
in a mountain canyon,
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a sound all the more wonderful since I have
set aside the urge to ferret the thing out,
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clear up the mistletoe, and find out just
where the stream comes from and where it goes.
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Every stream, every
road, if followed persistently
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and meticulously to its
end, leads nowhere at all.
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And this is why
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The compulsively investigative mind
is always landing up in what it believes
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to be the disillusion, the hard
and bitter reality of the actual facts.
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Playing a violin is, after all, only
scraping cat's entrails with horsehair.
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The stars in heaven are, after
all, only radioactive rocks and gas.
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But this is the illusion.
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That truth is to be found only by picking
everything to pieces like a spoiled child.
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This is why the painters of
the Far East so seldom tell all.
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Why they avoid
filling in every detail.
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And why they leave in their paintings
great areas of emptiness and vagueness.
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These aren't just
unfilled backgrounds.
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They are integral parts
of the whole composition.
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Suggestive and pregnant voids and mists, which
leave something to our imagination, even though
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we don't make the mistake of trying actually
to fill them in with detail in the mind's eye.
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We let them remain suggestive.
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Autumn clouds,
vague and obscure.
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The evening, lonely and chill.
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I felt the dampness on my garments, but
saw no spot and heard no sound of rain.
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Cliffs that rise a thousand
feet without a break.
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Lake that stretches a
hundred miles without a wave.
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Sands that are white through
all the year without a stain.
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Pine tree woods, winter
and summer ever green.
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Streams that forever flow
and flow without a pause.
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Trees that for 20,000
years your vows have kept.
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You have suddenly healed
the pain of a traveler's
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heart and moved his
brush to write a new song.
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There was something vague
before heaven and earth arose.
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How calm, how void.
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It stands alone, unchanging,
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It acts everywhere, unpiring.
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It may be considered the mother
of everything under heaven.
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I do not know its name,
but call it by the word Tao.
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The Tao is something
blurred and indistinct.
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How indistinct, how blurred,
yet within it are images.
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How blurred, how indistinct,
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yet within it are things.
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How dim, how confused,
yet within it is creative power.
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Picking chrysanthemums
along the eastern fence.
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Gazing in silence at the
southern hills, the birds fly
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home in pairs through the
soft mountain air of dust.
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In all these things
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There is a deep meaning,
but when we are about
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to express it, we
suddenly forget the words.
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The song of birds,
the voices of insects,
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are all means of
conveying truth to the mind.
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In flowers and grasses, we
see messages of the Tao.
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The scholar, pure
and clear of mind,
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that serene and open of heart should
find in everything what nourishes them.
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But if you want to know
where the flowers come
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from, even the god
of spring doesn't know.
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Things are produced around
us, but no one knows the whence.
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They issue forth, but
no one sees the portal
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Men, one and all, value that
part of knowledge which is known.
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They do not know how to avail themselves
of the unknown in order to reach knowledge.
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Is not this misguided?
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But, it isn't by pushing relentlessly
and aggressively beyond those hills
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that we discover this unknown and
persuade nature to disclose her secrets.
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What is beyond
that is also here.
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Any place where we are may be
considered the center of the universe.
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Anywhere that we stand can be
considered the destination of our journey.
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But we have to be
receptive and open.
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We have, in other words, to do
what Lao Tzu advised when he said,
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While being a man, yet one should
also preserve a certain femininity,
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and thereby one will become a
channel for the whole universe.
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You know, that's one
of the things which I
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believe in our culture of
the West is submerged.
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The feminine values
are despised values.
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And we find, typically
among men, a strange
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kind of reluctance to
be anything but a man.
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A kind of anxiety
to be 100% male.
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And that's a kind of monster.
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A man who is 100% male,
100% tough guy, is a sort of
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human mollusk who has no
softness and no sensitivity.
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And indeed, it's a common psychological observation that people who are
constantly anxious to prove their masculinity, who are scared to death of being
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sissy, of being weak, of being unaggressive, those are the very people who
have doubts about their own masculinity, who are not really sure of it.
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And so, there is a
tremendous necessity for us
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to value alongside, as it were, the
aggressive masculine element symbolized by
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the sword, the receptive feminine element
symbolized perhaps by the open flower.
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For after all, our human senses
are not knives, they're not hooks,
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they are the soft ball of the
eye, the delicate drum of the ear,
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the soft skin on the tips of the fingers and on the body it is through these
delicate receptive things that we basically receive our knowledge of the world and
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therefore it is through a kind of weakness and softness that it is possible for
knowledge to come to us so putting it in another way we have to come to terms with nature
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by wooing her rather
than fighting her.
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Not just putting nature at the so-called
distance of objectivity as if she were an
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enemy to be shot, but something rather to
be known by embrace like a beloved wife.
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For you see, what does one
really want to know about?
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Does one rather want to
manage the whole thing
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Does one want to be a kind of
omnipotent God in control of it all?
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Or does one rather
want to enjoy it?
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One cannot, after all, enjoy what you
are all the time anxious about controlling.
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One of the nice things
about one's own body is
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you don't have to think
about it all the time.
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If you had, when you woke
up in the morning, to think about
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every detail of your circulation,
you'd never get to the day.
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As was well said, the
mystery of life is not a
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problem to be solved, but
a reality to be experienced.
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