"Murder 360" Episode #1.1

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1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:04,080 Every person that worked on this case 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:05,920 was traumatized at some level. 3 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:13,480 If you started out as a search and rescue, 4 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:15,080 you know you have a certain amount of time 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:17,400 before it's going to be a search and recovery. 6 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:21,160 We start considering that there may have been foul play. 7 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,280 She had been painted as a monster. 8 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,960 But sometimes evil is afoot in the world. 9 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:38,640 That's when I realized. 10 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,640 Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh! 11 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:43,360 At the flip of the switch, 12 00:00:43,480 --> 00:00:47,720 you would get this bloodthirsty almost animal. 13 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,920 That's just desperately wicked. 14 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:57,480 And she kept repeating, he's going to kill me. 15 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:00,680 And he shoots my daughter. 16 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:04,400 That's about the only time in my career 17 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:05,960 that I just wanted to shoot him. 18 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:13,074 Watch Online Movies and Series for FREE www.osdb.link/lm 19 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,720 You can run, but you can't hide. 20 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:37,360 Cole County is roughly 390 square miles. 21 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,600 One of the outlying communities is St. Martins. 22 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:44,480 It's a slightly more rural, smaller community, 23 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:49,200 a very solid community, good people. 24 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:50,920 Rarely had calls out there. 25 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:53,840 Teenagers may be driving too fast 26 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:55,120 or things of that order, 27 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,360 but really, it's a nice community, 28 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:58,880 a good place to live. 29 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,160 On that Wednesday, actually at 7:00 PM, 30 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,160 I was at one of the local churches doing 31 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,440 a church security workshop. 32 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,360 I received a phone call from one of my deputies 33 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,600 that said they had a report of a missing child 34 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:16,200 in the St. Martins area. 35 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,600 Elizabeth Olten was a 9-year-old girl, 36 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,640 by all accounts, a very nice person. 37 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,880 She attended a local grade school, 38 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,200 certainly was doing fine in classes. 39 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,440 She didn't seem to be unhappy with her family, 40 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,120 with her school, with anything that she was involved in. 41 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,920 She was just a happy, intelligent child. 42 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:45,320 Elizabeth Olten was our neighbor at that time, in 2009. 43 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:50,160 And she lived four houses, three or four houses down. 44 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,200 She is a girl that would come over to our house 45 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:54,880 from time to time, especially in the summer. 46 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,120 We have a swimming pool, and she came over 47 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,760 and went swimming a couple times. 48 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:02,120 We'd hang out at the Olten house, 49 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:03,760 and sometimes Elizabeth would be hanging out 50 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,040 with Emma, my little sister. 51 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,520 I get a call from Elizabeth's mother, 52 00:03:14,640 --> 00:03:16,440 and she's asking about her daughter. 53 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:17,720 And I said, well, I've not seen her. 54 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,080 I don't know anything about it. 55 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:21,840 And she said, well, I can't find her. 56 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,000 And it's dark, and she's never out at night. 57 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,320 And we went down there, and we talked to her parents 58 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,640 and we talked to the police. 59 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:33,840 And that's when I realized that-- 60 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,200 the seriousness of what was happening. 61 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,120 I didn't know if she was at a friend's house, 62 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:41,440 but then, obviously, we realized 63 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:46,800 that she's definitely missing. 64 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,280 Deputies are talking with the mother of Elizabeth, 65 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,600 the missing child, and finding out where she had been, 66 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:55,480 the last time people knew about her. 67 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:57,440 The mother had stated that her daughter, 68 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:01,280 she had been with some classmates, twin boys, 69 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,120 down the road. 70 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,240 They lived with their grandparents. 71 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:13,440 We just went to the Oltens' house, 72 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,120 and we were playing video games. 73 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,160 The sheriff showed up and spent more time 74 00:04:18,280 --> 00:04:19,720 asking questions, more than anything else, 75 00:04:19,840 --> 00:04:21,440 for a while. 76 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,640 And then that's when we found out that 77 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,760 Emma did go over there and knocked on the door 78 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,560 and asked if Elizabeth could come out and play. 79 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:31,960 And then, you know, 80 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,240 Elizabeth hadn't been home yet. 81 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:35,440 There's panic between, you know, 82 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,400 Mom and brother for sure. 83 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:38,760 And, like, you know, what could have happened to her? 84 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,320 Why wouldn't she be home by now? 85 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:45,000 The older sibling, which was Alyssa Bustamante, 86 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,400 had volunteered to walk her home. 87 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,840 And she said rather than walking on the road-- 88 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:51,760 and the road has no sidewalks on it. 89 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:53,880 It's a rural, paved road. 90 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,280 So rather than walk on that in the approaching darkness, 91 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,160 they took the back routes from the back of the homes, 92 00:05:00,280 --> 00:05:03,160 through some farmland and some wooded areas. 93 00:05:03,280 --> 00:05:05,600 And Alyssa said that she walked her to-- 94 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,760 in sight of Oltens' home and left her there, 95 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,240 with Olten walking home. 96 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,120 So we have that very short time of being inside 97 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,000 of the house and not seeing her again 98 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,000 and then never making it to the home. 99 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,200 So at that point, we're looking at perhaps 100 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,600 she got lost in the woods, or she fell and hurt herself. 101 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:29,640 A couple hours later, about the time 102 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:31,840 they really started searching in earnest, 103 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:33,440 it started to rain, which, of course, 104 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:34,960 made their search more difficult. 105 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:37,360 It was a dark night. 106 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,040 It was not just cloudy, 107 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,920 but we had torrential rains, great winds. 108 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,920 It was an uncomfortable time to be looking for a lost child 109 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:46,320 out in the woods and farm areas. 110 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:49,680 If you started out as a search and rescue, 111 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,160 you know you have a certain amount of time 112 00:05:51,280 --> 00:05:53,960 before it's going to be a search and recovery. 113 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,000 You know, you want to be able to use things like helicopters 114 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,360 with forward-looking infrared radar, 115 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:00,240 which normally is available to us. 116 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,600 That first night, the weather was too bad. 117 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,800 We couldn't use a great deal of the aircraft. 118 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:08,520 And so we're taking the assumption that 119 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:10,520 she could have fallen and injured herself 120 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,120 or, in the darkness, gotten a little lost. 121 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,240 And it's not a good place to be lost in. 122 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:16,920 The woods are very thick. 123 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,640 There's a lot of undergrowth, a lot of brush. 124 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:22,720 The creeks are full of water and running 125 00:06:22,840 --> 00:06:24,200 at a good rate of speed. 126 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,440 So in a situation like that, again, 127 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:30,240 you want to start looking at a search and rescue operation. 128 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,400 We got local fire departments, 129 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,320 and we set up a grid search with teams. 130 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:39,480 The way we do that is we pull up maps of the area 131 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,320 and we crosshatch it, covering literally 132 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,720 every square inch to every square yard, 133 00:06:44,840 --> 00:06:46,080 all the way across it, 134 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,800 from east to west and north to south. 135 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:50,800 There was so much underbrush that it's hard 136 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:52,720 to fight your way through. 137 00:06:52,840 --> 00:06:54,400 You've got people that were willing to get down 138 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,280 on their hands and knees and crawl through brush. 139 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:01,240 This is hours and hours and hours of work by people 140 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,960 in horrific conditions, and yet, 141 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,920 the rescuers did not give up. 142 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:08,960 We just kept looking. 143 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:13,720 But we didn't find her or any indication of her. 144 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,040 And we had to eventually call for that night 145 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,720 because it simply became too dangerous to be in the woods. 146 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,280 We were just totally in the dark 147 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,520 about what actually happened. 148 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,280 Her father was in jail. 149 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,880 A lot of people were thinking the same thing. 150 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,000 Perhaps somebody he knows had kidnapped her. 151 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,040 By the next morning, we had also started 152 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:49,800 having a dual command post. 153 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,120 One command post was search and rescue. 154 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,560 The other command post became investigative. 155 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,080 They had about 300 people were out 156 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,040 looking, trying to find her. 157 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:00,960 People we know, friends of ours, 158 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:02,360 everyone was out trying to find her 159 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,400 because we couldn't really figure out 160 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:05,560 what could have happened. 161 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,920 We were all just flabbergasted. 162 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,080 We had a good couple hundred volunteers, 163 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,600 not counting the fire department personnel, 164 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,040 the law enforcement personnel, ambulance crews. 165 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,440 Everyone wanted to volunteer. 166 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,360 We partnered with the Missouri State Highway Patrol, 167 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,040 and they set up checkpoints and literally stopped 168 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,200 every vehicle that came through 169 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,000 and asked what people had seen. 170 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,400 We had no visual sighting of her. 171 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,840 One of the other aspects that kept us on task 172 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:43,600 in this, certainly, limited-- 173 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:45,400 big area, but limited-- 174 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,320 was the fact that she had a cell phone. 175 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,520 We can't locate the phone, but yet we have 176 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,320 a broad area that it's pinging in. 177 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,880 We knew that the area we were searching that 178 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:58,960 that phone was in that area. 179 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,360 We kept tracking, looking for that, 180 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:05,120 until eventually, the battery on the phone died. 181 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,200 We had almost gotten to the point of purely 182 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,760 search and recovery because the weather had been so bad, 183 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:12,480 the likelihood of her surviving 184 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,840 to that point was pretty low. 185 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,560 So we start considering that there may have been foul play. 186 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,320 That's where you start looking at, well, 187 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,760 who is the person that had last contact? 188 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,040 And the natural outflow of that is 189 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,160 where you would start looking at a person of interest. 190 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,800 So the last person to see her had been 191 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,280 15-year-old Alyssa Bustamante. 192 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,400 Elizabeth Olten's brother came over and was 193 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,040 asking where Elizabeth was. 194 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,560 And we didn't know. 195 00:10:07,680 --> 00:10:08,560 We had no idea. 196 00:10:08,680 --> 00:10:10,600 Why are you asking us? 197 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:14,880 He said, well, because she left and was with Alyssa. 198 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,680 I'm like, I didn't know that. 199 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,920 So we asked Alyssa, and Alyssa kind of 200 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:22,640 brushed it off and said, well, yeah, she was. 201 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:24,840 But then she left and went home, 202 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,400 or she thought she went home. 203 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,240 Alyssa was going to a church function at that time. 204 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,440 So Karen took Alyssa to the church function, 205 00:10:33,560 --> 00:10:37,480 and Elizabeth Olten's mother then got concerned 206 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,640 and was asking us, you know, what happened to Elizabeth? 207 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:45,720 The FBI wanted to talk to Alyssa 208 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:47,520 because they had been called in 209 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,440 since this was a missing minor. 210 00:10:49,560 --> 00:10:51,080 They got her out of school 211 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,720 and took her in for questioning, 212 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,640 and she answered all their questions for quite a while. 213 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:58,960 They paid a lot of attention to her 214 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,240 right from the beginning. 215 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,520 I was there when she was born, 216 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,600 so I got to cut the cord when she was delivered. 217 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:18,840 Her mother was just 16. 218 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:23,760 And she was the teeniest little baby, so sweet. 219 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:28,080 As babies go, she was very happy and cheerful. 220 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:29,120 She seemed like a pretty good sister. 221 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:30,680 Like, she, you know, tried to show us 222 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,680 the way with some things and help us out. 223 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:35,560 And, you know, I never really, you know, 224 00:11:35,680 --> 00:11:37,560 thought anything bad of her. 225 00:11:37,680 --> 00:11:40,960 Then they moved to Missouri. 226 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:42,720 I guess you'd call her a tomboy. 227 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:44,880 She liked playing outside. 228 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:46,480 She liked climbing trees. 229 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,960 And we had quite a few trees around, 230 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,360 and she climbed them all. 231 00:11:58,280 --> 00:11:59,760 I definitely remember as she got older, 232 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:00,920 she was more of like a recluse, almost, 233 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:02,400 you know, staying in her room, 234 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,840 doing her own thing, more, like, 235 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,160 depressed and definitely darker. 236 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:09,920 And it was definitely hard because, you know, 237 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:11,720 you remember her as, like, you know, a happy, 238 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:13,800 you know, sister. 239 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,120 And you can kind of, you know, also see her 240 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,880 transitioning into someone that's not very happy. 241 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:20,600 I think it was about the same time she was going 242 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,680 through puberty, and she had a real hard time 243 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:25,600 with that because of being a tomboy, 244 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,760 she wanted to be a boy. 245 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,480 And all of a sudden, she's developing, 246 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,520 and she didn't really want to develop. 247 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,120 So she had a real, what I would consider a dark period, 248 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:37,920 going through the goth stuff. 249 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:39,240 I couldn't get her to wear anything 250 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,240 that wasn't black or dark. 251 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,760 We'd go out, like, monster hunting, you know. 252 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:45,800 She made us believe that there were 253 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,320 actually monsters out there. 254 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:07,080 After school, the kids come-- 255 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,040 get home on the school bus at 4:30. 256 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:11,640 Alyssa wanted to go out in the woods, 257 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,000 so I said, yes, you can go out in the woods. 258 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:18,880 That's something she did real often. 259 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,920 She went out at about 5 o'clock. 260 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,560 She came back at about 6 o'clock, 261 00:13:25,680 --> 00:13:28,120 and it was just getting dark. 262 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,920 She went right upstairs to her room, 263 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,640 which is a little unusual. 264 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:36,320 A couple hours later, about 7:30, 265 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,920 8 o'clock, the sheriff was here and started looking 266 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,160 around for Elizabeth and started asking 267 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,280 questions of our family. 268 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,640 My first contact with Alyssa, 269 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:51,880 you would think that this is the person 270 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,680 that would be a good babysitter for your children. 271 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:58,040 She was engaging, good eye contact, 272 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:02,000 positive body language, comfortable with adults, 273 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:03,920 and seemed responsible. 274 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,080 We tried to help as best we could 275 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,000 because we still were wondering, 276 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:09,680 what the heck is going on here? 277 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,160 We never saw Elizabeth. 278 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,640 We used the FBI's evidence recovery team 279 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:33,800 to execute the search warrant, 280 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:37,800 and they went through with a fine tooth comb. 281 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,520 Goodness, there must have been 30 282 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,800 law enforcement people on this property, 283 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:47,400 including, you know, local people, FBI people. 284 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,840 And then you get the search of the bedroom. 285 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,360 And you start finding out that, 286 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,240 well, there's a lot of darkness. 287 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:58,200 When you think of a child 288 00:14:58,320 --> 00:14:59,960 writing something on the wall, 289 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:01,680 you think of a little kid with a crayon 290 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,880 or a paintbrush or a magic marker. 291 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:10,160 You don't think of a teenager immortalizing that which 292 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:14,360 is aberrant to society, looking like there's blood on the wall 293 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:18,200 or writing horrific statements on the wall. 294 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:25,080 They were focusing upstairs on Alyssa's room. 295 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:26,880 And I mean, looking back, I don't know why 296 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,840 I didn't catch something, but we really didn't. 297 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:32,880 I just--I didn't catch a thing. 298 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:34,440 But they were taking pictures, 299 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,480 and that's when they found her diary. 300 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,120 It turns out that that was absolutely crucial to the case. 301 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:50,240 She hid so much of herself from even her closest contacts, 302 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:54,520 but she surely shared her heart in her journal. 303 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,880 One of the investigators with my agency 304 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,840 was looking at the diary, and as he's going through it, 305 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,280 on the last entry on the last page 306 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,080 that she'd done anything on was a large section 307 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,800 that had been scrawled over with her pen, 308 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:14,600 so it was just all blacked out. 309 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:19,160 And honestly, he took a 20,000 candlepower flashlight, 310 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,160 put it under it, and you could clearly read 311 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,440 what was written on the page. 312 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:32,080 She's killed someone, strangled her, 313 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:36,880 stabbed her, and cut her throat. 314 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:46,600 I remember when my detective shared it with me. 315 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:50,520 And... 316 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:52,280 It's a confession. 317 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,200 It's a written confession. 318 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,640 I would say we were in the 95 percentile that this is it. 319 00:16:58,760 --> 00:16:59,760 We've got her. 320 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:19,120 When Alyssa was 7, and right before the boys-- 321 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,760 her younger brothers turned three years old, 322 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,560 her mother came to California 323 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:28,920 because she split up with her husband. 324 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,400 We soon discovered that her mother was a drug addict, 325 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,200 and what had been going on in Missouri was not good. 326 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:39,240 The kids were not very well cared for. 327 00:17:39,360 --> 00:17:41,120 There was one particular night 328 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:46,200 my husband had called me to tell me that 329 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,880 he went over to see the kids. 330 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:50,960 We'd gotten them a little trailer so they could have-- 331 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:52,040 Michelle could have a little privacy. 332 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:53,520 We were hoping that would help. 333 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,240 Anyway, it was a disaster. 334 00:17:55,360 --> 00:17:57,560 And so beer cans were all over. 335 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:01,080 And she was not-- 336 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,080 she was there, but she was-- 337 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:04,760 I think she was passed out on the bed. 338 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,760 And so, um... 339 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:18,760 I really didn't want to take these children away 340 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,880 from their parents, but we did. 341 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:23,320 We had to. 342 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:31,040 One of the things that the state-appointed counselor 343 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,000 said from the testing she had done with Alyssa 344 00:18:33,120 --> 00:18:36,560 is that she wanted me to be aware that there was 345 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,120 a possibility that her behavior 346 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,080 was going to get a little bizarre. 347 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:43,760 And I was really glad she told me this, 348 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:47,280 because it did. 349 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,920 We would be out, like, at a store, 350 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,840 and she would just go down on the ground. 351 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:56,320 Now, bear in mind she was 8 years old at this time. 352 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,840 And she would act out things like a 4-year-old would do, 353 00:18:59,960 --> 00:19:03,240 like she was a giraffe or a donkey or whatever. 354 00:19:03,360 --> 00:19:07,160 Or she would chase in and out of the clothes at the store. 355 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,920 And of course, people that are around at that time 356 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,040 are looking at me, like, well, aren't you going 357 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:13,920 to do something about this? 358 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:15,920 You know, this behavior is rather odd. 359 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,480 I don't know that any of us can understand 360 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,560 what it feels like to have a parent, not just one, 361 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:24,000 but two parents abandon you, 362 00:19:24,120 --> 00:19:26,360 and not just once, but over and over. 363 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:30,640 She wouldn't trust us with her feelings. 364 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:32,040 She thought she had to hide them. 365 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,240 Because, you know, her experience 366 00:19:37,360 --> 00:19:40,640 with adults in her early life was such that 367 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:42,680 when she did share, it-- 368 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:44,640 bad things happened. 369 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,960 We eventually moved to Missouri. 370 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:57,000 I only saw her cry once, one time. 371 00:19:57,120 --> 00:20:00,480 It was after one of the times her mother had left. 372 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:04,600 This was a little bit before Alyssa turned 12. 373 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,280 She was in her bedroom, in bed, 374 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,160 and she had the covers over her head. 375 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,600 And I could hear her crying. 376 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:12,640 And I went in and I lowered the covers, 377 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,440 and we cried together. 378 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,600 And--because we were both sad. 379 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:27,040 To have--to have a child that's an addict 380 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,960 is very difficult for a mother, a parent. 381 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,840 And for Alyssa, it's her mother, and she loves her. 382 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,320 And she's left her again. 383 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:41,000 And I think that in her mind, it was hopeless, 384 00:20:41,120 --> 00:20:43,000 and wasn't going to get her life together. 385 00:20:43,120 --> 00:20:44,280 And she finally had to face that. 386 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,560 Her mother wasn't coming back. 387 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:50,520 I guess she decided that it was more than she could handle, 388 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,840 and that's when she attempted suicide. 389 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:04,160 Once we tried to get help for her, 390 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,600 she was diagnosed as being bipolar. 391 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,520 And that's sort of explained her behavior in a lot of ways, 392 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:16,720 that she was down and up and so on. 393 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:20,120 And she would self-harm. 394 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,640 You can definitely see the scars on her arms 395 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,320 and, like, you know, how fresh they were sometimes 396 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,080 when she would cut herself. 397 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,200 And she would definitely get in, like, dark moods 398 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,080 where she wouldn't really talk, or, you know, 399 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,240 you could tell that something was bothering her. 400 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,880 When I looked at some of the things she was looking up, 401 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,440 she was looking up more ways of how to kill herself. 402 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,880 But at that point, she was at school. 403 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,600 We sent deputies to take her into custody. 404 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,160 As a 15-year-old, they just wanted us 405 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,680 to bring Alyssa to the FBI office on Friday morning, 406 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,320 which is what we did. 407 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,240 Alyssa and I went in, and we were being questioned 408 00:22:14,360 --> 00:22:16,720 by the sergeant, as well as they had 409 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,440 a juvenile officer there. 410 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:20,800 If you don't mind if I sit here so I can write-- 411 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,400 Yeah. 412 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:23,760 'Cause I'm going to be taking a lot of notes, so. 413 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:25,360 OK. 414 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,440 We really want to know, did you do it? 415 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:32,760 Which the diary gave it to us, but we want to hear her say it. 416 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,240 But we also want to know why. 417 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:22,280 Finally, he started asking her more pointed questions 418 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:27,280 and pretty much putting things-- 419 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,400 I remember thinking, wow, why is he-- 420 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,520 why is he saying this stuff? 421 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,800 At that point, I was still 100% sure that 422 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,360 Alyssa had nothing to do with anything. 423 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,920 If somebody had asked me, it was 100% sure 424 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,320 I knew that she was not involved in that. 425 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,120 But her denial then was contrary to 426 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,360 what the facts were that she was confronted with. 427 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,600 And they told her that they had found her diary 428 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,400 in which she mentions what she had done. 429 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,120 When you're doing an interview or an interrogation 430 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,280 with an individual, you're trying to get to the point 431 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,080 that the situation is set up where the only thing 432 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,040 where they sense relief is the truth. 433 00:26:58,440 --> 00:26:59,200 Oh! 434 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:11,560 That's when I realized. 435 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:12,640 Oh, my gosh. 436 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,760 Oh, my gosh! 437 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,000 And I just had a breakdown right there 438 00:27:17,120 --> 00:27:19,080 in the middle of this whole situation. 439 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:20,880 And I turned just to get out. 440 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,000 I just--I couldn't breathe. 441 00:27:25,120 --> 00:27:26,840 You saw how shocking it was to the grandmother. 442 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,360 Can you imagine finding out 443 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,080 that a person of your own blood 444 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,960 has acted out this horribly? 445 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,480 It was like something out of a movie. 446 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,120 And all of a sudden, you're in it, 447 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,400 and it's not where you wanna be. 448 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,480 She confessed. 449 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,280 And honestly, it was shocking to the two investigators 450 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:12,840 that were in there, to hear her coldly lay out what she did. 451 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,560 This girl didn't care who she killed. 452 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,000 She cared that she killed. 453 00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:59,200 That's frightening. 454 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,040 So at that point, she gave directions 455 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:07,800 to recover the body. 456 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,320 The grave site, that was under a tree 457 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,000 and some brush in the area. 458 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,200 When the body was recovered, it was in a shallow grave. 459 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,440 It was covered with some debris. 460 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,080 A lot of leaves were falling at that time of the year. 461 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,120 People had walked right there. 462 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,200 So it's not that that area wasn't covered. 463 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,560 It was covered. 464 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,440 They, of course, found the cell phone. 465 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,520 The autopsy report is sufficient on all 466 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,560 of the injuries, the violence, the anger demonstrated 467 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,800 by the method of death. 468 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:55,680 It's incredible to me that a 15-year-old girl, 469 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,160 as an outflow of her life, 470 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,440 was wanting to destroy other people, 471 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,640 was wanting to do it brutally. 472 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,240 And I think that we need to remember that for most 473 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,480 of us in society, this is so aberrant 474 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,960 that we are not going to understand it 475 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,200 because we're not that way. 476 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,440 And I thank God that we're not that way. 477 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,640 On that particular night, I had a big church activity. 478 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,480 And so I was preparing. 479 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,000 I had to bring the treats, and we were 480 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:40,400 going to be teaching dancing. 481 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,120 And Alyssa was going. 482 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,520 And I remember she asked if they could go over 483 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,960 and see Elizabeth, and we said no, 484 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,520 because it was already 4:30, and we needed to leave. 485 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,680 Then I think she came back and asked if they could-- 486 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,280 her and Emma could just go out in the forest 487 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,600 for a little bit and come back. 488 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,640 So they went. 489 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,240 And we agreed that they could do that, 490 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:06,000 and that's where we thought they were that night. 491 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,040 Later, it was obviously discovered that 492 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:09,800 Emma went over and got Elizabeth, 493 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,120 and then they went out into the woods. 494 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,600 And then I guess they ditched Emma and kept going, 495 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,400 you know, out in the woods. 496 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:23,480 While Alyssa was walking Elizabeth home, at one point, 497 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:28,160 out of view of anyone else, she started to strangle her, 498 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,440 and she found that the girl was too strong. 499 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,480 And when she was resisting being strangled is when Alyssa 500 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,240 had said that she pulled the knife out, 501 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,240 the kitchen knife out and began stabbing her. 502 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:44,320 She stabbed her repeatedly and cut her throat. 503 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,680 The brutality of it is just-- is shocking to the conscience. 504 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,000 And of course, the question there is, 505 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:52,920 where does the 15-year-old get this anger? 506 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,920 I don't know. 507 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,600 So at that point, for her, 508 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,040 she'd done what she wanted to do. 509 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,920 She'd seen the light of life go out-- 510 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,680 go out of a person's eyes by her hand. 511 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,240 That's just desperately wicked. 512 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,840 She was in the vicinity of the grave that she had dug. 513 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:19,280 She drug her to that grave, placed her in it, buried her, 514 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,920 spread some debris over it, walked back home, 515 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,640 threw the knife in the dishwasher 516 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,400 and turned the dishwasher on, 517 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,680 and went to her room like nothing else had happened, 518 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,240 wrote some information down in a diary, 519 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,440 and then thought better and scratched it out. 520 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,560 I distinctly remember the front door slamming open 521 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,520 and Alyssa running up the stairs 522 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,680 like a herd of elephants, which she didn't normally do. 523 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,960 I had met her briefly that first night. 524 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,560 She appeared to be concerned that 525 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,760 Elizabeth did not make it to her home. 526 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,520 In retrospect, you look at her and you go, 527 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,520 wow, she's thinking she pulled this off. 528 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,880 She's thinking that she's gonna walk on this. 529 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,480 She's thinking that we'll never figure it out. 530 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,840 And it seemed with her that it's like flipping a switch. 531 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,800 She would be this nice, normal person 532 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,680 that people were dealing with. 533 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,120 And then at the flip of the switch, 534 00:34:17,240 --> 00:34:22,120 you would get this bloodthirsty almost animal. 535 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,720 She's detained as a juvenile, 536 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,960 and then the application is 537 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,080 made to try her as an adult. 538 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,040 And when that goes through, then she's charged 539 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:44,640 as an adult with first-degree murder, 540 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,400 premeditated murder. 541 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,640 We have to remember that regardless of your age, 542 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,080 there's got to be accountability. 543 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,360 We had a 15-year-old that demonstrated 544 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,160 all facets of evil. 545 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,120 And she's accountable for her actions. 546 00:35:00,240 --> 00:35:05,080 If you act like adult, you can be charged like an adult. 547 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,480 And that's what happened in her case. 548 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,040 The lawyer for a teenager accused of killing 549 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,320 a 9-year-old neighbor says his client 550 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,320 shows signs of depression and tried 551 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,400 to kill herself two years ago. 552 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,640 It wasn't the Alyssa that I know. 553 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,760 She was on some kind of a high drug, 554 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,040 as far as I could tell, from the medications 555 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:26,760 that we were giving her, that the doctors were giving her, 556 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,320 and that I allowed them to give her. 557 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,640 She should have been institutionalized so that 558 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,360 we could protect her and anyone else while 559 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,600 we went ahead and messed around with what's going on 560 00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:39,400 in her brain as a 15-year-old. 561 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,040 I think that maybe it was the medicine 562 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,440 that kind of drove her, you know, 563 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,240 crazy, I guess you would say. 564 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,160 Was she mentally ill? 565 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:48,800 I don't think so. 566 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,240 I'm not a psychologist or a psychiatrist. 567 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,000 But it doesn't seem so because she functioned 568 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,040 in everyday society well. 569 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:56,840 But yet there was that side that when 570 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:01,520 the switch was thrown, she was willing to do what she did. 571 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,360 On her Twitter page, 15-year-old accused killer 572 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,440 Alyssa Bustamante lists her location as 573 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,800 "somewhere I don't wanna be." 574 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,920 That somewhere is now a jail cell, 575 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:13,840 as a Missouri teen awaits trial 576 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,120 for her role in the death 577 00:36:15,240 --> 00:36:17,080 of 9-year-old Elizabeth Olten, 578 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,240 who prosecutors say Bustamante strangled 579 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,000 and stabbed in a premeditated murder. 580 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,240 She had premeditated murder as a charge 581 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,480 because she planned it by digging the grave. 582 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,120 She planned it by taking the knife, 583 00:36:31,240 --> 00:36:34,440 and she planned it by waiting for the opportunity 584 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:38,240 to get this little girl alone and brutally kill her. 585 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,560 That defines premeditated homicide. 586 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,640 Bustamante has pleaded not guilty, 587 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,840 but a dark picture of the teen has emerged online. 588 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,000 In this video, Bustamante shown touching 589 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,280 an electric fence while encouraging her younger 590 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,080 brothers to do the same. 591 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,120 I knew about the electric fence video, 592 00:36:55,240 --> 00:36:57,320 but I guess, as a kid, we didn't really think-- 593 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,040 we didn't know anything about, like, YouTube or much then. 594 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:02,920 I guess it's not really 595 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:04,720 even a big deal for us 596 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,160 because, I mean, people could see that and be like, 597 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,000 oh, wow, like, she's forcing them to touch this 598 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:09,560 electric fence when, in reality, like, 599 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,480 we're growing up, you know, around horses 600 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,160 and around, you know, that type of stuff. 601 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:14,880 Like, you know how many times we accidentally 602 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,520 touched an electric fence? 603 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,320 And it's, like-- it's just a little shock. 604 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,520 It's not, like, oh, wow, like, that really hurt. 605 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,000 Joining us now from St. Louis is 606 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:24,760 Jennifer Meyer, who is best friends 607 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,120 with Alyssa Bustamante. 608 00:37:27,240 --> 00:37:30,160 Did she ever, in any conversation with you, 609 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,280 talk about wanting to hurt somebody else? 610 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,240 Yes. 611 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,920 In one conversation we had back in January, 612 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:40,840 she just pulled me off to the side 613 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,240 and basically told me, you know-- 614 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:43,760 she said, I wonder what it would be like 615 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,040 to kill somebody. 616 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,400 I thought it was kind of strange, 617 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,400 but I just dismissed it, I guess. 618 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,480 I wouldn't really think that my best friend would do that. 619 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,320 She had been painted as a monster. 620 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:14,360 Awaiting trial, she was in jail. 621 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:18,080 And because she was a minor 622 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,640 and because there was ill feeling against her, 623 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,360 they thought she was in danger in jail, 624 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,240 so they kept her in solitary confinement 625 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,960 for a year and a half. 626 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,720 And by this time, she was ready to do anything 627 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,160 to get out of solitary. 628 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:38,120 So when her attorney suggested that they offer a guilty plea, 629 00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:39,640 she went along with it, just because 630 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,000 she knew that she'd get out of it. 631 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:47,440 At that point, she elected to enter a plea of guilty. 632 00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:01,880 In Alyssa's final statement, I think that 633 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,840 as best she could, that she truly did feel remorse. 634 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,560 Granted, she was under the influence 635 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:08,880 of extra medication, 636 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,840 but I think that as best she could, 637 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,680 she really did feel the remorse. 638 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,480 And if she could have switched places, 639 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:16,400 she would have. 640 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,480 Since she was pleading guilty, there was a sentence. 641 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,360 And the judge basically gave her 642 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:28,840 the maximum sentence she could. 643 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,960 It was like two 30-year terms 644 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:33,840 to be run consecutively. 645 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,080 I look at all the cases that I've been involved in, 646 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,280 in 34 years of law enforcement. 647 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,840 This was one of the two most difficult cases 648 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,400 that I was ever involved in. 649 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,520 Every person that worked on this case 650 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,360 was traumatized at some level. 651 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:09,640 But I can tell you that the technician for the FBI 652 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,920 that brushed the soil from Elizabeth's face was, 653 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,360 at that same moment, recognizing 654 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,640 she had a 9-year-old daughter at home. 655 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:24,600 I just never, ever, in my wildest dreams, 656 00:40:24,720 --> 00:40:29,240 imagined that Alyssa would have the capability 657 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:30,800 to do what she did that night. 658 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,080 Never, never in my wildest dreams. 659 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,880 Sometimes it's not that anyone failed her. 660 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,520 She was getting counseling. 661 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,760 She was involved in a local church. 662 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:44,840 She had grandparents that cared deeply 663 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,800 for her and her brothers. 664 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,120 But sometimes evil is afoot in the world. 665 00:40:51,240 --> 00:40:53,120 And in this particular case with her, 666 00:40:53,240 --> 00:40:56,400 that's what I think was there. 667 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,320 So I know that, you know, on the outside, 668 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,440 people definitely see her as, you know, a villain. 669 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,360 And, like, you kind of, like, see her like that a little bit 670 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,600 on the inside of the family, but she's still family. 671 00:41:05,720 --> 00:41:09,160 And, you know, with the things that happened to her and stuff, 672 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:10,720 it's hard to put, you know, all the blame on her 673 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,680 and not, you know, other circumstances. 674 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,360 She didn't have remorse at that time. 675 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,440 She has remorse now because now she has matured 676 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,040 and finally understands 677 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:21,880 what it was she has done. 678 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,120 She is much better now. 679 00:41:36,240 --> 00:41:37,680 She doesn't have to take drugs. 680 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,440 And where she is in prison, 681 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,280 she still needed rehabilitation, 682 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,600 and she's gotten it. 683 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,440 If her life changed dramatically 684 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:58,480 and they could document that it changed dramatically, 685 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,760 I would say you might have 686 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,600 a more sympathetic parole board. 687 00:42:03,720 --> 00:42:07,680 In this case, I don't know that she can change. 688 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,120 You have hopes, but I don't think she can. 689 00:42:11,240 --> 00:42:14,480 It's so aberrant to the average person 690 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,240 that you can't make sense of it. 691 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,280 I'm not so naive to think that there's 692 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,640 no evil afoot in the world, because there is, 693 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,720 and I know it because of people 694 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,280 like Alyssa Bustamante. 695 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:43,640 To shoot two people six times each? 696 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,600 I can't even climb into that darkness. 697 00:42:46,720 --> 00:42:50,520 The creepy dude was most likely right there. 698 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,560 They assume that 699 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,600 the murderer knows the victims. 700 00:42:54,720 --> 00:42:56,800 Everyone is a suspect. 701 00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,200 Gabby Petito never goes outside. 702 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,840 Did Brian Laundrie have something to do 703 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,280 with the disappearance of these two girls? 704 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,480 This blew my world apart. 704 00:43:07,305 --> 00:44:07,744 Watch Online Movies and Series for FREE www.osdb.link/lm