"Ted Bundy: Dialogue with the Devil" Episode #1.1

1 00:00:01,251 --> 00:00:04,254 [♪ tense music playing] 2 00:00:11,302 --> 00:00:12,303 [clicking] 3 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:20,074 Watch Online Movies and Series for FREE www.osdb.link/lm 4 00:00:30,030 --> 00:00:32,031 [♪ tense music continues] 5 00:00:56,264 --> 00:00:58,475 [reporter] Convicted serial killer Ted Bundy tonight 6 00:00:58,558 --> 00:01:01,436 has lost two more appeals to halt his execution. 7 00:01:01,519 --> 00:01:06,024 Ted Bundy wanted a stay of execution, and Dad wanted a confession. 8 00:01:06,107 --> 00:01:09,110 [♪ ominous music playing] 9 00:01:13,114 --> 00:01:15,450 This guy is killing these women. 10 00:01:16,201 --> 00:01:19,746 We knew it was Bundy, but we couldn't even prove cause of death. 11 00:01:20,872 --> 00:01:24,292 [Katherine Ramsland] Bundy has raped and murdered these young women, 12 00:01:24,375 --> 00:01:27,420 whose families are left devastated. 13 00:01:27,504 --> 00:01:30,507 [♪ ominous music playing] 14 00:01:32,675 --> 00:01:36,679 We have almost two dozen young women dead, the victims of the Green River Killer. 15 00:01:38,014 --> 00:01:41,184 Robert Keppel got involved in the Green River killings, 16 00:01:41,267 --> 00:01:44,479 and now was on a mission nationwide. 17 00:01:44,562 --> 00:01:45,814 [reporter] Somebody has the key clue 18 00:01:45,897 --> 00:01:48,191 that this group in the Green River Task Force needs. 19 00:01:48,274 --> 00:01:51,277 [♪ tense music playing] 20 00:01:57,534 --> 00:02:00,787 Ted Bundy says, "I will help you identify him." 21 00:02:01,454 --> 00:02:04,958 The whole premise was using one killer, 22 00:02:05,041 --> 00:02:09,629 who, in order to stay alive, was helping police catch another killer, 23 00:02:09,712 --> 00:02:12,632 and that became The Silence of the Lambs. 24 00:02:15,343 --> 00:02:17,804 It was Bundy's nature to play cat and mouse. 25 00:02:18,555 --> 00:02:21,599 He was going to play that to the bitter end. 26 00:02:21,683 --> 00:02:23,268 In less than six hours from now, 27 00:02:23,351 --> 00:02:26,521 accused mass murderer Ted Bundy is scheduled to be executed 28 00:02:26,604 --> 00:02:27,605 in a Florida prison. 29 00:02:35,405 --> 00:02:38,408 [♪ dramatic music playing] 30 00:02:50,170 --> 00:02:53,173 [♪ dark music playing] 31 00:02:53,256 --> 00:02:55,258 [distant sirens wailing] 32 00:02:57,802 --> 00:02:59,888 [reporter 1] Along Washington State's Green River 33 00:02:59,971 --> 00:03:01,181 near the Seattle airport, 34 00:03:01,764 --> 00:03:04,058 police are hunting for a mass murderer. 35 00:03:04,726 --> 00:03:06,519 [reporter 2] Explorer Search and Rescue scouts 36 00:03:06,603 --> 00:03:08,688 have been combing the banks of the Green River 37 00:03:08,771 --> 00:03:12,942 looking for any clues as to who may have killed five women in the last month. 38 00:03:15,403 --> 00:03:18,406 [♪ dark music continues] 39 00:03:24,954 --> 00:03:26,998 [Bob Keppel] In the summer of 1982, 40 00:03:27,081 --> 00:03:29,500 first responders fished the body of a female 41 00:03:29,584 --> 00:03:32,253 out of the Green River near Seattle. 42 00:03:32,837 --> 00:03:34,339 She was found naked 43 00:03:34,422 --> 00:03:36,925 with a pair of blue jeans tied around her neck. 44 00:03:37,884 --> 00:03:41,137 This was obviously not the victim of an accidental drowning. 45 00:03:42,931 --> 00:03:45,433 [Katie Larson] Wendy Coffield was found first. 46 00:03:48,061 --> 00:03:49,771 And then Debra Bonner. 47 00:03:52,232 --> 00:03:55,276 Both found floating in the water hung up in a snag. 48 00:03:56,027 --> 00:03:58,863 We had two other victims that he had placed in the water 49 00:03:58,947 --> 00:04:01,908 and put large rocks on them to hold them down: 50 00:04:02,909 --> 00:04:04,077 Marcia Chapman, 51 00:04:05,161 --> 00:04:06,746 and Cynthia Hinds. 52 00:04:07,664 --> 00:04:10,458 And then Opal Mills was found in the tall grass. 53 00:04:13,253 --> 00:04:14,837 These were all prostitutes. 54 00:04:18,132 --> 00:04:20,885 [William Birnes] The crew that went into the Green River, 55 00:04:23,137 --> 00:04:25,223 they were tripping over the bodies. 56 00:04:25,306 --> 00:04:27,684 That's how he got the name the Green River Killer. 57 00:04:27,767 --> 00:04:28,768 [camera clicks] 58 00:04:29,310 --> 00:04:33,106 [Patty Eakes] In 1982, they created the initial task force. 59 00:04:33,189 --> 00:04:34,190 [camera clicks] 60 00:04:34,482 --> 00:04:40,613 In 1984, they made a larger task force because additional bodies had been found. 61 00:04:41,531 --> 00:04:44,075 [reporter] We have almost two dozen young women dead, 62 00:04:44,158 --> 00:04:45,868 the victims of the Green River Killer. 63 00:04:45,952 --> 00:04:49,789 And what we have here are the makings of one of the most grisly mass murders 64 00:04:49,872 --> 00:04:50,873 in American history. 65 00:04:56,087 --> 00:04:59,173 [Eakes] As a teenager living in Seattle, 66 00:05:00,300 --> 00:05:03,678 it was on the front page every day that bodies were being found. 67 00:05:04,178 --> 00:05:08,308 It had such a huge impact on our community. 68 00:05:08,391 --> 00:05:11,519 [protesters] One, two, three, four, we won't take it anymore! 69 00:05:11,602 --> 00:05:13,646 [speaker] All women are in danger 70 00:05:13,730 --> 00:05:18,609 when any woman is murdered by an unknown killer or killers. 71 00:05:18,693 --> 00:05:21,404 [protesters] ...three, four, we won't take it anymore! 72 00:05:21,487 --> 00:05:23,197 [Larson] Everyone was frightened. 73 00:05:23,823 --> 00:05:25,992 In Seattle, we had already dealt with Ted Bundy 74 00:05:26,075 --> 00:05:29,370 and, lo and behold, now we have a second serial killing. 75 00:05:29,454 --> 00:05:32,457 [♪ dramatic music playing] 76 00:05:34,417 --> 00:05:37,086 [Bob Keppel] The lead detective on the task force, Dave Reichert, 77 00:05:37,170 --> 00:05:38,338 came to see me. 78 00:05:38,421 --> 00:05:40,423 He was taking this case personally. 79 00:05:40,506 --> 00:05:43,968 And each new body found was like a left hook to his gut. 80 00:05:44,552 --> 00:05:45,845 He was desperate for help. 81 00:05:48,806 --> 00:05:52,352 [Eakes] Bob Keppel, who was kind of a legendary detective, 82 00:05:52,435 --> 00:05:55,730 he was really well-known for his role in the Bundy case. 83 00:05:56,606 --> 00:05:58,316 He was with King County Sheriff's Office 84 00:05:58,399 --> 00:06:00,777 at the time that the Bundy murders happened. 85 00:06:01,486 --> 00:06:05,907 He was known to be a very methodical, smart detective 86 00:06:05,990 --> 00:06:08,659 who was able to kind of think like criminals 87 00:06:08,743 --> 00:06:12,497 in order to solve cases that he might not have otherwise solved. 88 00:06:13,956 --> 00:06:17,168 My dad helped out with countless cases, 89 00:06:17,835 --> 00:06:19,712 uh, like over 50. 90 00:06:22,548 --> 00:06:23,841 [Bob Keppel] By the late '70s, 91 00:06:23,925 --> 00:06:28,221 I had figured out that my nemesis, Ted Bundy, had killed eight young women 92 00:06:28,304 --> 00:06:29,680 in Washington State. 93 00:06:31,224 --> 00:06:35,103 But I couldn't charge him, because he was in a jail in Florida 94 00:06:35,186 --> 00:06:39,273 and soon to be sentenced to death for three murders he committed there. 95 00:06:40,566 --> 00:06:44,195 Dad wanted to catch Bundy himself in Washington, 96 00:06:44,946 --> 00:06:46,781 but they didn't have the evidence. 97 00:06:48,408 --> 00:06:52,245 [Bob Keppel] The unsolved murders of those eight young women in 1974 98 00:06:52,328 --> 00:06:54,539 have haunted me ever since. 99 00:06:56,791 --> 00:06:59,836 [Birnes] Bob Keppel was a senior homicide detective. 100 00:06:59,919 --> 00:07:03,756 He was promoted to work directly under the Attorney General's Office 101 00:07:03,840 --> 00:07:06,843 as a chief criminal investigator. 102 00:07:06,926 --> 00:07:08,302 He was a big deal. 103 00:07:11,097 --> 00:07:15,309 And that's where Bob and Dave Reichert got together 104 00:07:15,393 --> 00:07:17,770 to try to solve the Green River murders case. 105 00:07:22,984 --> 00:07:25,945 [Eakes] The Green River Killer had a very simple method, 106 00:07:26,028 --> 00:07:28,364 in many ways, of selecting his victims. 107 00:07:30,533 --> 00:07:35,913 These were women that were engaged in the sex trade along Pacific Highway. 108 00:07:37,123 --> 00:07:38,791 Very difficult to find witnesses, 109 00:07:38,875 --> 00:07:41,794 very difficult to find out what their last movements were, 110 00:07:41,878 --> 00:07:43,379 when they were last seen. 111 00:07:45,798 --> 00:07:49,427 For Bob Keppel, it was so frustrating. 112 00:07:50,887 --> 00:07:52,472 They had no evidence. 113 00:07:53,222 --> 00:07:55,766 All they had were missing and murdered cases, 114 00:07:55,850 --> 00:07:57,226 just like the Ted cases. 115 00:07:58,352 --> 00:07:59,812 [reporter] They need a break. 116 00:07:59,896 --> 00:08:02,565 Somebody has seen something, they may not even recognize it, 117 00:08:02,648 --> 00:08:05,526 but it's the key clue that this group in the Green River Task Force needs. 118 00:08:11,782 --> 00:08:15,953 [Bob Keppel] One day in October 1984, I was buried in a pile of paperwork. 119 00:08:17,538 --> 00:08:20,374 I looked up to see a letter to the task force 120 00:08:20,458 --> 00:08:21,876 from a wannabe consultant, 121 00:08:22,668 --> 00:08:26,088 the most unlikely person I ever expected to be of assistance 122 00:08:26,172 --> 00:08:27,632 in the Green River murders. 123 00:08:29,050 --> 00:08:32,637 The letter came from a cell on death row in Florida. 124 00:08:34,055 --> 00:08:35,056 The sender: 125 00:08:35,681 --> 00:08:36,974 Ted Bundy. 126 00:08:37,058 --> 00:08:40,144 [♪ dramatic music playing] 127 00:08:40,228 --> 00:08:42,271 That's how this all began. 128 00:08:42,855 --> 00:08:47,109 When Bundy read in the newspaper that Keppel was now on the task force, 129 00:08:48,152 --> 00:08:49,153 he wrote to them. 130 00:08:50,530 --> 00:08:53,991 "I have some information, which I think could prove useful 131 00:08:54,075 --> 00:08:57,995 "in apprehending the person or persons responsible 132 00:08:58,079 --> 00:09:01,916 for what are referred to as the Green River murders." 133 00:09:05,253 --> 00:09:06,629 So, he's holding this out. 134 00:09:06,712 --> 00:09:08,756 "I can help you find the Green River Killer. 135 00:09:10,216 --> 00:09:13,261 I know what he's doing. I know what he's thinking." 136 00:09:18,558 --> 00:09:21,352 [Roger Dunn] Bob was shocked when he got the letter from Bundy, 137 00:09:21,435 --> 00:09:24,105 but, uh, it was still an opportunity 138 00:09:24,188 --> 00:09:28,359 to find out more information about his own cases. 139 00:09:32,071 --> 00:09:35,032 [Bob Keppel] Was this my chance to get Bundy to confess to the murders 140 00:09:35,116 --> 00:09:37,451 of the eight young women in Washington State 141 00:09:37,535 --> 00:09:39,120 that we could never pin on him? 142 00:09:40,871 --> 00:09:45,209 I had a hunch that Ted couldn't talk about the behavior of the Green River Killer 143 00:09:45,293 --> 00:09:47,003 without revealing some of his own. 144 00:09:49,505 --> 00:09:52,967 But his offer came with several strict conditions. 145 00:09:55,136 --> 00:09:58,556 [Birnes] "I do not want anyone outside your task force, 146 00:09:58,639 --> 00:10:03,936 "especially news media types, to become aware of my offer to help. 147 00:10:05,646 --> 00:10:09,942 "I would talk only about the Green River matters. 148 00:10:10,026 --> 00:10:13,112 "We will handle this thing in a straightforward manner 149 00:10:13,195 --> 00:10:15,072 or we don't handle it at all." 150 00:10:17,908 --> 00:10:24,707 1984 was the beginning of Ted Bundy's game to stay his execution, 151 00:10:25,458 --> 00:10:27,543 to put off his imminent death. 152 00:10:29,170 --> 00:10:30,755 Dad wanted a confession. 153 00:10:31,547 --> 00:10:34,133 They were playing this game with each other. 154 00:10:35,801 --> 00:10:41,849 Keppel wanted to use one serial killer to catch another serial killer. 155 00:10:41,932 --> 00:10:44,060 It had never been done before. 156 00:10:45,603 --> 00:10:48,981 [Louis Schlesinger] That theme was repeated in Silence of the Lambs, 157 00:10:49,065 --> 00:10:52,234 when Jodie Foster went to speak to Hannibal Lecter. 158 00:10:52,985 --> 00:10:55,321 Bundy was gonna be the professor now 159 00:10:55,404 --> 00:10:59,033 and teach, uh, Keppel about serial sexual murder. 160 00:11:01,994 --> 00:11:03,913 -[♪ dark music playing] -[chains rattling] 161 00:11:09,585 --> 00:11:11,170 [Bob Keppel] Bundy and I arranged a meeting 162 00:11:11,253 --> 00:11:13,422 by exchanging several more letters. 163 00:11:13,506 --> 00:11:16,842 And then Detective Dave Reichert and I went down to Florida. 164 00:11:19,512 --> 00:11:22,348 The assistant warden led us to an interview room. 165 00:11:24,183 --> 00:11:26,185 [chains rattling] 166 00:11:26,435 --> 00:11:30,981 Ted was brought in with chains around his waist, wrists, and arms. 167 00:11:35,903 --> 00:11:38,239 The touch of his hand was sticky wet. 168 00:11:38,823 --> 00:11:42,702 Ted's face was pale, cheeks hollowed, and his eyes were dark. 169 00:11:43,536 --> 00:11:45,705 He was like an animal just out of his cave. 170 00:11:46,872 --> 00:11:47,998 [tape whirring] 171 00:12:04,932 --> 00:12:07,685 [Bob Keppel] Bundy settled into his persona for the interview. 172 00:12:08,853 --> 00:12:10,229 I looked back at him. 173 00:12:11,147 --> 00:12:15,067 I was now face to face with my old nemesis. 174 00:12:16,068 --> 00:12:18,154 None of this was going to be easy. 175 00:12:22,616 --> 00:12:23,617 [match strikes] 176 00:12:24,994 --> 00:12:26,829 [♪ dark, ominous music playing] 177 00:13:17,546 --> 00:13:20,674 [Bob Keppel] Every gesture, every aspect of his speech 178 00:13:20,758 --> 00:13:25,304 was meant to convince us he was an expert in the field of serial murder. 179 00:13:26,388 --> 00:13:29,517 It was like Ted wanted some form of validation 180 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,185 and for us to feed his ego. 181 00:13:34,271 --> 00:13:37,441 [Birnes] Here's what happens with a sociopathic serial killer. 182 00:13:38,067 --> 00:13:41,195 A sociopath's world is the world around that person. 183 00:13:41,946 --> 00:13:44,114 You own the world. 184 00:13:44,198 --> 00:13:46,200 [bird squawking] 185 00:13:46,784 --> 00:13:48,786 And so, there's Ted Bundy, 186 00:13:48,869 --> 00:13:52,081 the sociopath who owned the killing grounds 187 00:13:52,164 --> 00:13:54,083 around Seattle and the Green River. 188 00:13:56,252 --> 00:14:00,005 Then, into Bundy's world came the Green River Killer. 189 00:14:00,089 --> 00:14:02,091 [♪ ominous music playing] 190 00:14:02,967 --> 00:14:05,261 Now somebody was in his killing grounds? 191 00:14:06,262 --> 00:14:08,180 Bundy was gonna put a stop to it. 192 00:14:49,471 --> 00:14:53,267 [Bob Keppel] Bundy believed the river man was comfortable around his victims, 193 00:14:53,350 --> 00:14:57,062 and that's part of the reason he'd been so successful 194 00:14:57,146 --> 00:14:58,606 and impossible to catch. 195 00:15:00,399 --> 00:15:04,403 Years later, we would find out just how right Bundy was. 196 00:15:04,987 --> 00:15:09,700 Ted Bundy was more accurate in profiling the serial killer 197 00:15:09,783 --> 00:15:10,826 than the police were. 198 00:15:11,410 --> 00:15:13,245 He was right all along the lines, 199 00:15:14,079 --> 00:15:18,709 where to find the victims and why he attacked the victims. 200 00:15:21,045 --> 00:15:23,672 [reporter] You're looking at two undercover King County police officers 201 00:15:23,756 --> 00:15:25,257 posing as prostitutes. 202 00:15:25,341 --> 00:15:28,344 Their every move is being carefully monitored by fellow officers. 203 00:15:30,471 --> 00:15:32,598 [Larson] I was hired in 1984. 204 00:15:34,141 --> 00:15:38,312 The sheriff's office was setting up prostitute decoy operations. 205 00:15:38,395 --> 00:15:41,690 At the time, I was 22 years old, fresh outta college. 206 00:15:42,942 --> 00:15:46,570 And the very first thing they had me do was put on a fur coat 207 00:15:46,654 --> 00:15:50,366 and start walking on Pacific Highway, attempting to lure the Green River Killer. 208 00:15:53,619 --> 00:15:58,248 [Eakes] The area had been pretty taken over by low budget hotels, 209 00:15:58,332 --> 00:16:01,377 motels that, you know, you could rent by the hour. 210 00:16:02,294 --> 00:16:05,047 And it had a real flourishing sex trade. 211 00:16:05,130 --> 00:16:06,548 Um, and that's kinda where 212 00:16:06,632 --> 00:16:09,426 the Green River Killer first started meeting his victims. 213 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,640 [Bob Keppel] We had drawn the same conclusion 214 00:16:56,724 --> 00:16:58,851 about the river man's victim class. 215 00:16:59,435 --> 00:17:02,730 It had widened to include runaways. 216 00:17:05,399 --> 00:17:08,777 [Eakes] Runaways had families that were dysfunctional. 217 00:17:09,319 --> 00:17:12,990 They'd come from abusive families, abusive relationships, 218 00:17:13,073 --> 00:17:14,867 and they were fleeing from something. 219 00:17:15,451 --> 00:17:16,535 And for many of them, 220 00:17:16,618 --> 00:17:20,748 engaging in prostitution was just a way to be able to support themselves. 221 00:17:21,957 --> 00:17:24,626 And he realized that people just didn't notice. 222 00:17:25,627 --> 00:17:28,589 These women became almost like invisible victims. 223 00:18:01,455 --> 00:18:03,457 [♪ ominous music playing] 224 00:18:07,961 --> 00:18:10,964 [♪ dark music playing] 225 00:18:14,802 --> 00:18:17,012 [reporter 1] Another terrible discovery in the woods near Star Lake 226 00:18:17,096 --> 00:18:18,305 in South King County. 227 00:18:18,972 --> 00:18:20,682 [reporter 2] This is the second time in five weeks 228 00:18:20,766 --> 00:18:22,726 a skeleton has been found around here. 229 00:18:24,061 --> 00:18:26,563 [Bob Keppel] No one who hasn't done this knows what it's like 230 00:18:26,647 --> 00:18:29,399 to be on the trail of a human killing machine. 231 00:18:30,192 --> 00:18:34,488 Every day, you second-guess yourself about clues you might've missed, 232 00:18:34,571 --> 00:18:36,406 and hot leads that turned cold. 233 00:18:36,490 --> 00:18:38,534 [reporter 1] Searchers have found a fourth skeleton, 234 00:18:39,827 --> 00:18:42,121 they fear, another victim of the Green River Killer. 235 00:18:43,497 --> 00:18:44,873 [reporter 2] Another 12 are missing, 236 00:18:44,957 --> 00:18:47,626 and police say they're sure those 12 are victims. 237 00:18:49,503 --> 00:18:52,297 [Bob Keppel] But the toughest part is facing the families. 238 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,843 You wish you could say something positive when they call you, 239 00:18:56,593 --> 00:18:57,594 but you can't. 240 00:19:01,723 --> 00:19:05,102 [Jenny Graham] Debbie was my little sister. 241 00:19:05,185 --> 00:19:07,729 She was barely 15 years old. 242 00:19:07,813 --> 00:19:11,108 Debbie was just like any-- any normal kid, 243 00:19:11,191 --> 00:19:14,069 you know, doing homework and playing with friends. 244 00:19:14,153 --> 00:19:16,989 [♪ gentle music playing] 245 00:19:17,072 --> 00:19:20,701 She loved horses. She absolutely loved horses. 246 00:19:22,995 --> 00:19:25,622 Because of the environment that we are in. 247 00:19:25,706 --> 00:19:27,332 We experienced abuse. 248 00:19:28,375 --> 00:19:31,670 It was her biological father and my stepfather. 249 00:19:31,753 --> 00:19:35,382 So, she left searching for safety. 250 00:19:36,008 --> 00:19:42,806 And she found two men that sex-trafficked her. 251 00:19:46,935 --> 00:19:48,812 The last time I saw Debbie, 252 00:19:48,896 --> 00:19:53,567 she had come back to the house and picked up some things. 253 00:19:53,650 --> 00:19:56,028 So, you know, I said, "Call me." 254 00:19:56,862 --> 00:19:58,572 Right? "Call me." 255 00:19:58,655 --> 00:20:01,909 They'd run away before, so you expected that they'll come back. 256 00:20:01,992 --> 00:20:04,620 Because they always come back. Right? 257 00:20:05,662 --> 00:20:07,164 They always come back. 258 00:20:07,664 --> 00:20:10,792 Well, they come back until they don't come back. 259 00:20:12,294 --> 00:20:15,047 [♪ dark, ominous music playing] 260 00:20:16,506 --> 00:20:18,759 [reporter] More bodies were discovered in the SeaTac area. 261 00:20:18,842 --> 00:20:21,887 That's the second one found around here in the last five weeks. 262 00:20:23,388 --> 00:20:24,389 [Graham] It was sad, 263 00:20:24,473 --> 00:20:30,520 because a lot of the victims were seen as basically throwaway people. 264 00:20:31,688 --> 00:20:35,275 I referred to them as paper dolls. 265 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:40,155 It really did seem like there was more anger, in a way, 266 00:20:40,239 --> 00:20:43,408 towards the victims than there was the murderer. 267 00:20:44,534 --> 00:20:48,038 [♪ dark music playing] 268 00:21:04,012 --> 00:21:06,265 [Birnes] Ted Bundy, when he spoke to Keppel, 269 00:21:06,348 --> 00:21:09,059 said he's a second-level serial killer 270 00:21:10,894 --> 00:21:12,854 'cause he's killing prostitutes. 271 00:21:14,356 --> 00:21:16,358 That's an easy kill. 272 00:21:16,441 --> 00:21:19,319 You say to a prostitute, "Here's 50 bucks." 273 00:21:19,403 --> 00:21:20,988 Gets into your car, you kill her. 274 00:21:21,071 --> 00:21:22,072 [door slams shut] 275 00:21:25,951 --> 00:21:27,995 [Bob Keppel] Every time Ted spoke, 276 00:21:28,078 --> 00:21:31,915 his feelings of superiority over the river man would show. 277 00:21:33,083 --> 00:21:36,962 He thought of himself as the Leonardo da Vinci of serial murder. 278 00:21:37,629 --> 00:21:39,756 I wondered whether I would ever get the chance 279 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,760 to see this ego of Ted's rupture and collapse. 280 00:21:43,844 --> 00:21:44,845 I hoped so. 281 00:21:45,595 --> 00:21:49,391 [♪ dark music playing] 282 00:21:49,474 --> 00:21:51,476 [film strip whirring, clicks] 283 00:21:52,477 --> 00:21:54,813 [people chattering] 284 00:21:55,564 --> 00:22:01,320 [Ken Katsaris] Ted Bundy struck at the epitome of what we revere. 285 00:22:02,112 --> 00:22:06,616 Young women outta college, they were all beautiful. 286 00:22:07,117 --> 00:22:09,786 [Steven Winn] This goes back to all of these young women in Washington, 287 00:22:09,870 --> 00:22:14,458 who, it's almost a, you know, Hallmark card of American innocence 288 00:22:14,541 --> 00:22:15,834 that Bundy exploited. 289 00:22:19,463 --> 00:22:23,925 [Kathleen McChesney] In January of '74, the Seattle Police Department investigated 290 00:22:24,009 --> 00:22:30,140 the first case of a woman in the area who had been assaulted in her sleep. 291 00:22:30,223 --> 00:22:32,225 [♪ dark, ominous music playing] 292 00:22:35,354 --> 00:22:37,481 Yeah, I think so, yes. 293 00:22:43,528 --> 00:22:46,031 [Karen Sparks Epley] January of 1974. 294 00:22:46,615 --> 00:22:48,867 I think it was a Thursday. 295 00:22:48,950 --> 00:22:53,121 The next week, I was gonna go back to class at the University of Washington. 296 00:22:53,205 --> 00:22:54,915 I was gonna start my junior year. 297 00:22:55,499 --> 00:22:58,627 You know, college kids are gonna go out and party a little bit. 298 00:22:58,710 --> 00:23:01,546 I didn't care to go out to drink, 299 00:23:03,256 --> 00:23:05,884 so I just stayed in my room. 300 00:23:06,593 --> 00:23:11,515 It was kinda weird because I do remember seeing some guy 301 00:23:11,598 --> 00:23:14,643 a few days before at the laundromat. 302 00:23:14,726 --> 00:23:17,979 He kinda would look at me and I would look away. 303 00:23:18,647 --> 00:23:20,732 You know, he was older, a few years older than me. 304 00:23:20,816 --> 00:23:23,402 I thought, you know, he was kinda nice-looking. 305 00:23:23,485 --> 00:23:25,195 And then I never really thought about it. 306 00:23:28,073 --> 00:23:30,700 So, I had a window that looked up. 307 00:23:33,245 --> 00:23:34,371 I was reading. 308 00:23:36,790 --> 00:23:37,958 I looked up... 309 00:23:38,041 --> 00:23:39,793 [♪ eerie music playing] 310 00:23:40,001 --> 00:23:42,587 ...I thought I saw some guy looking at me. 311 00:23:45,632 --> 00:23:46,842 It was just a flash. 312 00:23:48,844 --> 00:23:50,178 I just thought, "No, you know, 313 00:23:50,262 --> 00:23:52,472 it must've been a figment of my imagination," 314 00:23:52,556 --> 00:23:54,474 because, you know, who's gonna hurt me? 315 00:23:56,143 --> 00:23:59,813 Nobody had keys. We just kept the back door open. 316 00:24:02,691 --> 00:24:06,778 I probably went to bed about 1:00 or 2:00, Friday morning. 317 00:24:12,576 --> 00:24:16,371 [♪ tense music playing] 318 00:24:23,128 --> 00:24:30,010 Friday evening, my roommate, Bob, he went downstairs and went into my room. 319 00:24:31,761 --> 00:24:34,097 When he tried to wake me up, I wouldn't wake up. 320 00:24:34,181 --> 00:24:36,933 [♪ ominous music playing] 321 00:24:37,684 --> 00:24:38,727 Then he saw the blood. 322 00:24:43,899 --> 00:24:48,528 Karen Sparks was brutally assaulted and left for dead. 323 00:24:49,863 --> 00:24:51,490 She was in terrible shape. 324 00:24:52,532 --> 00:24:55,660 Ten days later, I just woke up in the hospital. 325 00:24:58,705 --> 00:25:01,875 I slept on my right side of the bed, 326 00:25:01,958 --> 00:25:05,504 and so they smashed me with something. 327 00:25:07,797 --> 00:25:10,091 I was sexually assaulted but not raped, 328 00:25:10,175 --> 00:25:15,722 meaning he slammed some foreign object up my vagina 329 00:25:15,805 --> 00:25:17,724 and it split my bladder. 330 00:25:18,225 --> 00:25:20,894 I've got like a big scar here. 331 00:25:21,853 --> 00:25:23,438 And then they put in a plate 332 00:25:25,315 --> 00:25:26,316 in there. 333 00:25:27,901 --> 00:25:30,654 I couldn't speak. I couldn't walk. 334 00:25:30,737 --> 00:25:36,451 I lost 50% of my hearing, and 40% of my vision, 335 00:25:36,952 --> 00:25:41,790 and then, they say, about 24% of my brain activity. 336 00:25:41,873 --> 00:25:44,042 [♪ somber music playing] 337 00:25:44,125 --> 00:25:47,921 There was a lot of years where only my closest friends knew. 338 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,007 You keep it to yourself. 339 00:25:53,385 --> 00:25:55,887 You just have to deal with it the best you can. 340 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,101 [Bob Keppel] And less than a month later, 341 00:26:01,184 --> 00:26:05,272 another attack, just a few blocks away. 342 00:26:05,355 --> 00:26:08,233 [♪ tense music playing] 343 00:26:09,234 --> 00:26:12,571 [♪ dark music playing] 344 00:26:13,238 --> 00:26:17,492 Uh, we have very few leads in the disappearance of Lynda, uh, Healy. 345 00:26:18,660 --> 00:26:20,537 [Bob Keppel] The Lynda Healy disappearance 346 00:26:20,620 --> 00:26:23,331 was one of the most bizarre and sinister chapters 347 00:26:23,415 --> 00:26:26,293 in Ted's career as a serial killer. 348 00:26:27,043 --> 00:26:30,130 She was probably his first murder victim. 349 00:26:31,590 --> 00:26:36,094 Lynda Healy was a Ed Psych major at the University of Washington. 350 00:26:39,472 --> 00:26:42,684 On January 31st, she said good night to her roommates 351 00:26:43,435 --> 00:26:45,395 and then went down to her basement apartment. 352 00:26:47,939 --> 00:26:50,734 [♪ ominous music playing] 353 00:26:50,817 --> 00:26:53,737 The next day, she was supposed to give a ski report 354 00:26:53,820 --> 00:26:56,823 on one of the local radio stations at 7 o'clock in the morning. 355 00:26:56,906 --> 00:26:58,033 She didn't show up. 356 00:27:00,327 --> 00:27:01,745 Her boss called the roommates, 357 00:27:02,829 --> 00:27:04,914 and they went downstairs to look. 358 00:27:05,415 --> 00:27:07,334 [alarm ringing] 359 00:27:07,417 --> 00:27:10,003 What was odd was that her alarm was still ringing. 360 00:27:12,964 --> 00:27:15,133 [Karen Hammond] Lynda and I had the two basement rooms. 361 00:27:15,216 --> 00:27:18,219 She and I had ground-level windows. 362 00:27:19,137 --> 00:27:22,140 And the side door right there was unlocked. 363 00:27:22,223 --> 00:27:24,392 [camera clicking] 364 00:27:25,894 --> 00:27:27,354 And her alarm was going off, 365 00:27:27,854 --> 00:27:29,481 and it kept going and going and going. 366 00:27:29,564 --> 00:27:31,399 [alarm continues ringing] 367 00:27:31,483 --> 00:27:33,234 We ended up calling the police. 368 00:27:33,318 --> 00:27:34,778 [alarm continues ringing] 369 00:27:35,111 --> 00:27:39,574 I took 'em down there, and then he said, "Does this look usual?" 370 00:27:41,409 --> 00:27:44,996 I said, "Well, actually, her bed is way too perfect." 371 00:27:46,873 --> 00:27:48,667 And then he whipped the covers off. 372 00:27:49,709 --> 00:27:52,712 [♪ suspenseful music playing] 373 00:27:55,048 --> 00:27:56,299 [voice breaking] There was blood. 374 00:27:58,259 --> 00:27:59,260 [choking up] 375 00:27:59,344 --> 00:28:01,012 [♪ ominous music playing] 376 00:28:01,096 --> 00:28:03,306 They opened the closet. 377 00:28:04,182 --> 00:28:06,351 We found her bloody nightgown in there. 378 00:28:06,434 --> 00:28:07,435 [flash bulb pops] 379 00:28:08,770 --> 00:28:13,024 And the only conclusion I came to was that there was somebody following her. 380 00:28:13,108 --> 00:28:14,943 She had been afraid someone was following her 381 00:28:15,860 --> 00:28:17,946 at the laundromat, and that sorta thing. 382 00:28:20,990 --> 00:28:22,784 [McChesney] When Lynda Ann Healy went missing, 383 00:28:22,867 --> 00:28:27,372 it was a very big deal for women who lived in the Seattle area 384 00:28:27,455 --> 00:28:31,543 and women who were on college campuses elsewhere. 385 00:28:32,293 --> 00:28:35,547 [Winn] It was a kind of end of an age of innocence in certain ways. 386 00:28:35,630 --> 00:28:37,090 Seattle felt stained. 387 00:28:37,966 --> 00:28:39,843 How could this happen in our culture? 388 00:28:43,388 --> 00:28:45,098 [♪ dark music playing] 389 00:28:45,181 --> 00:28:48,601 [Bob Keppel] When we asked Bundy how the river man found his victims, 390 00:28:48,685 --> 00:28:51,938 he couldn't help but talk about his own methods. 391 00:29:28,641 --> 00:29:30,602 [Bob Keppel] During our Bundy investigation, 392 00:29:30,685 --> 00:29:34,522 we noted similarities between the Sparks and Healy attacks. 393 00:29:35,106 --> 00:29:38,818 They happened in the same neighborhood, in basement rooms 394 00:29:38,902 --> 00:29:41,362 where the perpetrator could spy through a window 395 00:29:41,446 --> 00:29:43,740 and enter through an unlocked door. 396 00:29:44,657 --> 00:29:48,411 Plus, he appeared to have stalked them both in a nearby laundromat. 397 00:29:50,371 --> 00:29:53,583 But in the Healy case, the victim had been taken. 398 00:29:54,709 --> 00:29:55,710 Where to? 399 00:29:56,669 --> 00:30:01,424 We dug deeper and discovered troubling links between Lynda and Ted. 400 00:30:01,508 --> 00:30:04,344 Ted Bundy and Lynda Healy knew each other. 401 00:30:04,427 --> 00:30:06,304 She was a roommate of Bundy's cousin. 402 00:30:07,847 --> 00:30:10,183 They both had the same Psych seminars, 403 00:30:10,266 --> 00:30:12,393 and they would pass each other as they left. 404 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,313 And he began stalking her. 405 00:30:15,396 --> 00:30:16,523 [muffled laughter] 406 00:30:16,606 --> 00:30:18,233 How do we know he was stalking her? 407 00:30:19,067 --> 00:30:22,737 At the Safeway, Lynda Healy's check would be cashed at the register. 408 00:30:23,655 --> 00:30:25,657 The next check cashed was Ted Bundy's, 409 00:30:25,740 --> 00:30:28,201 the same cash register at the same Safeway! 410 00:30:28,284 --> 00:30:29,661 [♪ dark music playing] 411 00:30:29,744 --> 00:30:31,830 [film strip whirring, clicks] 412 00:30:34,249 --> 00:30:37,836 [Bob Keppel] Lynda Healy was not the only young woman who'd vanished. 413 00:30:40,046 --> 00:30:43,675 [Knute Berger] As you got toward the summer of 1974, 414 00:30:43,758 --> 00:30:46,469 there were people missing from Oregon State, 415 00:30:47,679 --> 00:30:50,682 there was a person missing from Central Washington University, 416 00:30:51,933 --> 00:30:53,685 from the University of Washington, 417 00:30:54,519 --> 00:30:55,520 from Evergreen. 418 00:30:57,146 --> 00:31:00,650 And so, it began to create a picture 419 00:31:00,733 --> 00:31:02,694 that was highly unusual. 420 00:31:04,195 --> 00:31:08,950 They were not treated as homicide cases, because a body wasn't necessarily found. 421 00:31:09,701 --> 00:31:13,538 People had simply disappeared, especially from college campuses. 422 00:31:16,708 --> 00:31:19,210 [♪ dark, ominous music playing] 423 00:31:19,294 --> 00:31:23,548 The circumstances of this were strange and unnerving. 424 00:31:25,508 --> 00:31:27,635 It's as if they'd been vaporized almost. 425 00:31:28,469 --> 00:31:31,014 And that was part of what was so haunting. 426 00:31:32,265 --> 00:31:36,144 It's as if they had sort of been whisked away into some other dimension. 427 00:31:36,895 --> 00:31:39,355 So, knitting it together was hard. 428 00:31:41,482 --> 00:31:46,029 And it wasn't until Lake Sammamish that the story really coalesced. 429 00:31:46,112 --> 00:31:49,949 [♪ ominous music playing] 430 00:31:52,660 --> 00:31:56,039 [♪ dark music playing] 431 00:31:57,874 --> 00:32:01,836 [Winn] Lake Sammamish, not far east of Seattle, 432 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,671 is a beautiful recreational lake. 433 00:32:03,755 --> 00:32:05,423 [boat motor revving] 434 00:32:06,507 --> 00:32:11,971 That day was a Rainier Beer promotion that attracted 40,000 people to the site. 435 00:32:12,805 --> 00:32:14,307 [people chattering] 436 00:32:15,266 --> 00:32:20,313 Several people reported a man introducing himself as "Ted." 437 00:32:21,481 --> 00:32:23,733 [♪ dark, ominous music playing] 438 00:32:23,816 --> 00:32:25,860 He was speaking with an English accent. 439 00:32:26,736 --> 00:32:30,615 He had his arm in a sling, asking for help with his sailboat. 440 00:32:33,409 --> 00:32:35,870 One of the women went to the parking lot with him. 441 00:32:35,954 --> 00:32:37,580 He had a Volkswagen Bug. 442 00:32:37,664 --> 00:32:39,374 She said, "Well, where's the boat?" 443 00:32:39,457 --> 00:32:43,086 And he said, "Oh, it's up at my parents' house in Issaquah." 444 00:32:45,505 --> 00:32:48,925 She got suspicious. She said, "I'm sorry, I'm meeting some people." 445 00:32:49,008 --> 00:32:50,176 [♪ lively music playing] 446 00:32:50,259 --> 00:32:52,011 This happened on several occasions. 447 00:32:56,474 --> 00:32:59,268 [Richard Kraske] Janice Ott was a probation officer 448 00:32:59,352 --> 00:33:01,980 with the King County Criminal Justice Group. 449 00:33:04,732 --> 00:33:05,858 She lived in Issaquah 450 00:33:05,942 --> 00:33:09,112 and she wanted to go over and join in the party. 451 00:33:10,113 --> 00:33:13,783 Her husband was away, down south in California. 452 00:33:14,283 --> 00:33:19,622 So she got on her yellow tiger bike and pedaled over to the park. 453 00:33:20,289 --> 00:33:22,875 [♪ lively music playing] 454 00:33:24,794 --> 00:33:26,671 [Winn] When Janice Ott was approached, 455 00:33:26,754 --> 00:33:30,216 two people were lying on a towel nearby, sunbathing, 456 00:33:30,299 --> 00:33:32,051 and-- and they were eavesdropping. 457 00:33:32,802 --> 00:33:37,473 And this time, they said that he had altered his story a little bit, 458 00:33:37,557 --> 00:33:40,351 and said, "My boat is up at my parents' house in Issaquah. 459 00:33:40,435 --> 00:33:42,186 Would you help me go up and get it?" 460 00:33:42,270 --> 00:33:44,230 [♪ ominous music playing] 461 00:33:44,313 --> 00:33:49,068 He was very persuasive, very agreeable, gregarious, friendly. 462 00:33:50,069 --> 00:33:51,946 [Dr. Peter Salerno] Ted Bundy knows how to fake it, 463 00:33:52,030 --> 00:33:54,323 using props, feigning injuries, 464 00:33:54,407 --> 00:33:56,951 doing all these kinds of things that could disarm somebody 465 00:33:57,035 --> 00:33:58,745 and-- and make them more vulnerable. 466 00:34:02,123 --> 00:34:03,958 [Winn] The witnesses watched them go. 467 00:34:06,294 --> 00:34:08,004 And, of course, she wasn't seen again. 468 00:34:08,504 --> 00:34:09,922 [♪ ominous tones playing] 469 00:34:11,924 --> 00:34:14,594 -[♪ lively music playing] -[people chattering and laughing] 470 00:34:14,677 --> 00:34:19,557 Two hours later, the same guy is going through the park again, 471 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,601 asking women the same question. 472 00:34:24,062 --> 00:34:27,023 And he came across a very attractive young lady, 473 00:34:27,106 --> 00:34:28,775 long black hair. 474 00:34:30,026 --> 00:34:32,236 [Winn] Denise Naslund was 18 at the time. 475 00:34:33,529 --> 00:34:35,656 She tooled around the parking lot for a while 476 00:34:35,740 --> 00:34:38,618 and finally found a spot to sunbathe. 477 00:34:39,410 --> 00:34:41,079 [Kraske] This was about 4 o'clock, 478 00:34:41,162 --> 00:34:44,415 and he picked up on her when she came out of the lavatory. 479 00:34:44,916 --> 00:34:47,502 [♪ dark, ominous music playing] 480 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:49,378 Well, she went with him, 481 00:34:51,380 --> 00:34:52,715 and they left the park, 482 00:34:54,801 --> 00:34:56,427 and she never came back. 483 00:34:59,889 --> 00:35:03,267 [Winn] Introducing himself as Ted and using his real name, 484 00:35:03,351 --> 00:35:05,311 that was another piece of audacity. 485 00:35:06,521 --> 00:35:08,356 He felt invulnerable, 486 00:35:08,439 --> 00:35:13,945 and the need to ramp up the thrill of it, the daring of it. 487 00:35:16,030 --> 00:35:19,367 I think the entire process for him was extremely exciting. 488 00:35:20,076 --> 00:35:22,703 And he patted himself on the back when he succeeded. 489 00:35:22,787 --> 00:35:25,665 [♪ dark music playing] 490 00:35:31,379 --> 00:35:34,048 [Bob Keppel] Ted believed the Green River Killer had a method. 491 00:35:34,132 --> 00:35:37,009 He would quickly move on from anyone who resisted, 492 00:35:37,093 --> 00:35:40,721 and instead focused on those who went along with his ruse. 493 00:35:41,889 --> 00:35:43,891 The more Ted talked about the river man, 494 00:35:43,975 --> 00:35:47,270 the more he seemed to be alluding to his own crimes. 495 00:36:17,300 --> 00:36:19,510 [Bob Keppel] Years later, we would discover 496 00:36:19,594 --> 00:36:23,264 that Ted was also right about the river man's ruse. 497 00:36:24,348 --> 00:36:28,352 [film strip whirring, clicks] 498 00:36:31,147 --> 00:36:34,066 At Lake Sammamish, the ruse worked like a charm. 499 00:36:35,651 --> 00:36:40,281 The stranger, known only as "Ted," took two victims that day. 500 00:36:40,364 --> 00:36:43,117 The police and the searchers have to contend with the grim idea 501 00:36:43,201 --> 00:36:44,744 that there might have been foul play, 502 00:36:44,827 --> 00:36:49,624 but there really are no clues, no theories as to the disappearance of the two girls. 503 00:36:53,878 --> 00:36:57,340 [Bob Keppel] Lake Sammamish, that's when Roger Dunn and I were assigned 504 00:36:57,423 --> 00:37:00,593 to the Ott and Naslund missing person cases. 505 00:37:01,344 --> 00:37:04,847 Bob was pretty much a rookie in the homicide unit, 506 00:37:04,931 --> 00:37:06,349 but he was very intelligent. 507 00:37:08,059 --> 00:37:13,356 Bob and I first met when we took the test to go into the detective division. 508 00:37:13,439 --> 00:37:17,235 He had finished number one on the test, and I finished number two. 509 00:37:18,069 --> 00:37:21,614 I wondered, what-- "Who is this guy, Bob Keppel, that beat me on the test?" 510 00:37:21,697 --> 00:37:22,698 [chuckles] 511 00:37:22,782 --> 00:37:25,284 I-- I found out he's gonna be my partner. 512 00:37:26,244 --> 00:37:27,912 [Ramsland] He became a homicide detective. 513 00:37:27,995 --> 00:37:34,293 And within two weeks, two women disappeared from Lake Sammamish. 514 00:37:35,795 --> 00:37:38,589 [Bob Keppel] When Janice Ott and Denise Naslund disappeared, 515 00:37:38,673 --> 00:37:42,593 we suddenly realized there was a total of eight missing girls 516 00:37:42,677 --> 00:37:44,595 in the Greater Seattle area. 517 00:37:45,263 --> 00:37:48,349 [Berger] You could begin to get a picture of these missing women. 518 00:37:49,308 --> 00:37:52,270 Similar age: 19, 20. 519 00:37:53,104 --> 00:37:56,816 Similar height: five feet, five four. 520 00:37:56,899 --> 00:37:59,443 Brunettes, hair parted in the middle. 521 00:38:00,152 --> 00:38:03,155 It became pretty clear there was a type. 522 00:38:04,991 --> 00:38:06,158 [Bob Keppel] Within months, 523 00:38:06,242 --> 00:38:10,621 those missing girls would become the eight murdered girls 524 00:38:10,705 --> 00:38:13,457 that I wanted Bundy to confess to. 525 00:38:13,541 --> 00:38:16,043 [♪ dark music playing] 526 00:38:17,712 --> 00:38:21,257 [♪ dark, ominous music playing] 527 00:38:23,968 --> 00:38:25,761 [Bob Keppel] Sitting across from him now, 528 00:38:25,845 --> 00:38:29,890 I wondered exactly how Bundy killed those eight young women 529 00:38:29,974 --> 00:38:31,309 in Washington State. 530 00:39:10,848 --> 00:39:13,351 [Bob Keppel] I didn't believe Bundy for a second. 531 00:39:13,893 --> 00:39:17,563 [film strip whirring, clicks] 532 00:39:19,732 --> 00:39:23,819 Ted's only contribution was chaos and fear. 533 00:39:25,404 --> 00:39:26,614 [Dunn] It was a frenzy. 534 00:39:28,491 --> 00:39:31,118 The entire Seattle area was on edge. 535 00:39:32,620 --> 00:39:33,913 It got to the point where 536 00:39:33,996 --> 00:39:37,083 I think they were making almost daily press conferences. 537 00:39:38,167 --> 00:39:40,419 [reporter] In other words, you don't know anything really. 538 00:39:40,503 --> 00:39:41,629 We don't know anything. 539 00:39:42,797 --> 00:39:46,425 There was a lot of media the day the girls went missing, 540 00:39:46,509 --> 00:39:50,179 and so we took as much footage as was available 541 00:39:50,262 --> 00:39:54,058 and we looked at people's photographs that they turned in to us. 542 00:39:54,141 --> 00:39:55,142 [camera clicks] 543 00:39:55,226 --> 00:39:58,479 [Bob Keppel] One particular photo was of a light-colored VW Bug 544 00:39:58,562 --> 00:40:00,314 with its driver behind the wheel. 545 00:40:00,398 --> 00:40:01,399 [camera clicks] 546 00:40:01,482 --> 00:40:03,609 The license plate was obscured from view, 547 00:40:03,692 --> 00:40:07,947 but in our minds, there was no doubt it was the man named Ted. 548 00:40:08,948 --> 00:40:10,074 There were witnesses 549 00:40:10,157 --> 00:40:14,161 who could provide details for a composite sketch. 550 00:40:15,371 --> 00:40:18,582 [reporter] Police were getting reports that Ted was at Central State College 551 00:40:18,666 --> 00:40:21,585 and at the Seattle Tavern where two other girls had disappeared. 552 00:40:22,711 --> 00:40:24,755 [Winn] Dozens of people, hundreds called in 553 00:40:24,839 --> 00:40:29,260 about somebody they worked with, their cousin, their brother. 554 00:40:29,343 --> 00:40:33,305 [reporter] And soon, Ted was being spotted behind every tree, behind every bush. 555 00:40:36,809 --> 00:40:39,687 [Rich Bundy] I had a paper route when I was 13, I think. 556 00:40:40,271 --> 00:40:42,314 You see the front-page headlines, 557 00:40:42,398 --> 00:40:44,358 you know, "Police looking for the mysterious 'Ted'." 558 00:40:45,109 --> 00:40:47,987 And I'm delivering these newspapers to people's front porches. 559 00:40:48,070 --> 00:40:49,530 And I'm looking at this sketch, 560 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:54,326 not even for a second, I didn't even make any connection to my brother. 561 00:40:59,039 --> 00:41:01,041 [♪ dark music playing] 562 00:41:01,667 --> 00:41:03,961 I sat in that [bleep] car. 563 00:41:04,044 --> 00:41:06,338 The very first time I ever got behind the wheel of a car 564 00:41:06,422 --> 00:41:08,257 was in that little tan Bug. 565 00:41:09,383 --> 00:41:10,718 I was 9 years old or so. 566 00:41:11,051 --> 00:41:13,429 And he's like, "You probably should get used to what it feels like 567 00:41:13,512 --> 00:41:15,014 behind the steering wheel of a car." 568 00:41:15,723 --> 00:41:18,058 He was sitting there and he pulled the seat back 569 00:41:18,142 --> 00:41:20,936 and so I could sit on his lap and steer that [bleep] thing, 570 00:41:23,814 --> 00:41:27,151 his murder cage, his mobile murder trap. 571 00:41:27,234 --> 00:41:29,236 [♪ eerie, ominous music playing] 572 00:41:31,572 --> 00:41:32,573 [hacking] 573 00:41:33,157 --> 00:41:35,493 People try to tell me, "Oh, but he coulda had a good side to him." 574 00:41:35,576 --> 00:41:36,952 [bleep]! 575 00:41:37,036 --> 00:41:39,413 I didn't find any-- any decent side of him. 576 00:41:39,497 --> 00:41:41,832 It was just an exercise of his craft! 577 00:41:41,916 --> 00:41:43,918 [♪ eerie, ominous music continues] 578 00:41:46,879 --> 00:41:48,756 Don't ever [bleep] try to tell me 579 00:41:48,839 --> 00:41:52,968 that he had some "legitimate," decent part of him. 580 00:41:53,052 --> 00:41:54,762 It's just all [bleep]. 581 00:41:54,845 --> 00:41:57,806 [♪ music intensifies] 582 00:41:59,850 --> 00:42:01,602 [bleep], people, wake up! 583 00:42:01,685 --> 00:42:04,688 [♪ dark music playing] 584 00:42:07,358 --> 00:42:09,276 [♪ dramatic music playing] 585 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,738 We have almost two dozen victims of the Green River Killer. 586 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:14,865 [Larson] Everyone was frightened. 587 00:42:14,949 --> 00:42:18,369 The body count was getting to the point where it was nuts. 588 00:42:19,286 --> 00:42:22,122 There had never been a crime spree like that. 589 00:42:23,165 --> 00:42:25,167 [♪ dramatic music continues] 590 00:42:32,049 --> 00:42:35,636 He had covered my mouth, strangling my neck. 591 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,513 I was trying to survive. 592 00:42:38,430 --> 00:42:40,975 Young women brutalized in unthinkable ways. 593 00:42:41,058 --> 00:42:43,018 He would have sex with the dead bodies. 594 00:42:47,940 --> 00:42:51,068 Ted Bundy is just one step away from the electric chair. 595 00:42:51,652 --> 00:42:53,320 [Birnes] In order to stay alive, 596 00:42:53,404 --> 00:42:57,491 Bundy has to tell Keppel the secret of how to catch a serial killer. 597 00:42:57,575 --> 00:42:59,618 [Ted Bundy] We need 60, 90 days. 598 00:43:00,202 --> 00:43:03,163 It was Bundy's nature to play cat and mouse. 599 00:43:03,247 --> 00:43:07,084 To him, this whole dialogue was a game that he was gonna win. 600 00:43:07,167 --> 00:43:09,628 [Bundy] There's just no way it can be done in this amount of time. 601 00:43:10,212 --> 00:43:14,216 He was just a simple, basic, devil monster. 602 00:43:15,092 --> 00:43:18,095 [♪ eerie music playing] 602 00:43:19,305 --> 00:44:19,319 Watch Online Movies and Series for FREE www.osdb.link/lm