"World White Hate" Söldner, Soldaten und Veteranen

1 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:06,440 A former German colonel dreams of a coup d'état... 2 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:10,760 The special forces need to be sent into Berlin 3 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:12,400 to really straighten things out. 4 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:15,280 Extreme right-wingers are going to the front, 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:17,440 some of them fighting for Ukraine, 6 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:19,400 some of them for Russia. 7 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:22,640 Yes, I'm a Nazi. 8 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:24,160 A Nazi. 9 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,920 American veterans are joining extreme right-wing groups. 10 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:30,240 OK, get back in, Sir. 11 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:32,640 Any further description? Is there an additional shooter? 12 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,760 The threat of far-right terrorism is growing worldwide. 13 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:38,680 They spread propaganda on the Internet. 14 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,080 Among them are many ex-soldiers and veterans. 15 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:43,560 They're not veterans, we are! 16 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:44,640 Officer down! 17 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:52,074 18 00:01:12,320 --> 00:01:16,560 The whole front of the federal building is gone. 19 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,520 We're supposed to have at least 25 to 30 children in this area, 20 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:22,560 we've only found about four or five. 21 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,200 We need a police dog, please. 22 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,360 Our deadliest modern domestic terrorist incident 23 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:32,480 {\an5}was perpetrated by a small cell of military veterans 24 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:33,760 with combat experience. 25 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:36,440 In 1995, 26 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,200 Iraq War veteran Timothy McVeigh 27 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,240 killed 168 people, 28 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,040 including 19 children. 29 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,400 This is something that happens in places 30 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,680 like Beirut. It's not something that's supposed to happen... 31 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:51,720 at home, 32 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:53,400 but it has. 33 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,160 {\an5}One interesting aspect of... 34 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,120 {\an5}those who carried out the Oklahoma City bombing 35 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:02,440 {\an5}is that they were in the military and received combat training, 36 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:07,360 and Timothy McVeigh used some of that to build this truck bomb. 37 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:10,640 McVeigh later said, 38 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,640 "Lots of people ask me, Tim, isn't this a paradox? 39 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,440 In the Gulf War, you received medals for killing people". 40 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:21,760 The topic of radicalisation 41 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,280 and the military is completely radioactive. 42 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,400 These people have counterintelligence training, 43 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,440 counterinsurgency training. 44 00:02:30,640 --> 00:02:35,120 They understand how to unnerve and destabilise an enemy. 45 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,000 So of course, it's a serious threat. 46 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:48,960 We're here this morning to announce the arrest of Sarah Clendaniel 47 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:50,880 and Brandon Russell. 48 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,720 Clendaniel and Russell conspired and took steps 49 00:02:53,920 --> 00:02:57,280 to shoot multiple electrical substations 50 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,120 in the Baltimore area, 51 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:03,800 aiming to quote "completely destroy this whole city". 52 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:07,760 The FBI says Brandon Russell 53 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,560 planned to open fire on electrical substations 54 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,040 around Baltimore, which is 62% Black. 55 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,360 Their aim: to spark chaos 56 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,360 and a race war. 57 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,680 One of the terrorists who was arrested 58 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,240 in Maryland was also a soldier once. 59 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,240 Why do former, and sometimes even active soldiers, 60 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,400 become extreme-right fanatics? 61 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,360 {\an5}Scott Payne also exposed soldiers 62 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,640 {\an5}in the extreme right-wing scene as an undercover FBI agent. 63 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,600 I had been in a group called The Base. 64 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,720 I'm told to download the wire app, told to contact Roman Wolfe. 65 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,240 It was clear that Roman Wolfe was the leader. 66 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:48,840 We knew that he was an American citizen, 67 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,760 contracted in the Department of Justice. 68 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,440 I knew he was former army intel. 69 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,520 I ended up doing an interview with a panel. 70 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:01,960 "What can you help us train on?" 71 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,240 That was huge for The Base. 72 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:07,920 I ended up going with hand-to-hand combat. 73 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,280 They wanted military people. That was what the whole pitch was. 74 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:16,680 "We're a survivalist group." 75 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,800 In The Base, they had like one folder, 76 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,200 and it was called RaHoWa 14, was the name of the file, 77 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:25,600 so "racial holy war". 78 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,200 It is file after file. 79 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:30,880 It might be read Turner Diaries. 80 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,080 It might be a dated US Marine Corps manual. 81 00:04:34,280 --> 00:04:36,720 It might be how to shut down infrastructure. 82 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,720 So there was a few members that were army veterans. 83 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:46,520 If you've developed those beliefs, 84 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,440 maybe you developed them in the military. 85 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,320 Maybe the unit you were in was segregated. 86 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,040 And then that just starts pushing you down that hole. 87 00:04:58,200 --> 00:04:59,840 Emily Oneschuk was also in the army, 88 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:01,880 just like her father before her. 89 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,160 Her brother Andrew was part of a right-wing terror cell 90 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,960 that was led by soldier Brandon Russell. 91 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,040 Emily fought for a long time 92 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:10,800 to get her brother out of the scene, 93 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,240 but he was killed in the end. 94 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,120 The army never prepared her for something like that. 95 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,480 So, my great grandfather was in the Italian Navy, 96 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:21,160 and my grandfather was in the US Navy. 97 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,640 My dad was... a navy pilot, 98 00:05:23,840 --> 00:05:26,160 uncle was a navy pilot, godfather was a navy pilot. 99 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,080 Andrew, his whole life, had only ever wanted to be a soldier. 100 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,920 When he was 16, Emily's brother contacted 101 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:41,280 the then right-wing Azov Brigade in Ukraine. 102 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,720 He even gave an interview to some of the members. 103 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,800 Today, we have a live discussion with Andrew. 104 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:48,160 He's an American nationalist. 105 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:49,520 Does it feel to you 106 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:51,600 that America has started to become more degenerated? 107 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,320 They want people to have 108 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,840 friendly opinions toward immigrants, get rid of our borders 109 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,760 and bring an infinite amount of Islamic immigrants. 110 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,080 The biggest moment of crisis, at least for my mum, 111 00:06:05,280 --> 00:06:08,560 was when Andrew told her that he was going to go fight 112 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,080 with Azov in Ukraine. 113 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,920 He had funnelled money out of a PayPal account. 114 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:16,920 On the same day he bought tickets, 115 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,400 he got a fake passport off the dark web. 116 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,680 He had all my dad's old gear from Iraq. 117 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,080 My mum, she's driving him home from high school. I don't think 118 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:30,800 he could drive at the time, 119 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:32,640 but he was ready to go be a mercenary. 120 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:35,320 He told my mum, "Hey, 121 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,200 just so you know, I'm going to go fight in Ukraine 122 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,200 and I have a ticket, and here's my ride". 123 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:43,840 I think he got cold feet. 124 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:50,960 RIGA, LATVIA 125 00:06:51,280 --> 00:06:54,000 Russian neo-Nazis are also fighting in Ukraine. 126 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,680 A reporter from Moscow, now in exile, 127 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:58,960 has been researching them for years now. 128 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,120 When I found myself reporting about the beginning of the war, 129 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,080 I encountered the same people 130 00:07:04,280 --> 00:07:07,160 who I knew from the Russian neo-Nazi circles 131 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,040 popping up in Ukraine. 132 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,560 They cooperate across the front line, 133 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,880 they mingle with each other even as they continue to fight. 134 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,200 One says that Ukraine is closer 135 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:21,880 to the neo-Nazi ideals, 136 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,280 that Ukraine is the real Reich, 137 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,720 and the other says no, Putin is the real Führer, 138 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:29,240 and the real Reich is in Russia. 139 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:33,560 The difference was always about 140 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,120 where the capital of the Fourth Reich should be, 141 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:37,840 whether it should be Moscow or Kyiv. 142 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,560 Otherwise, it's pretty much the same. 143 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:45,720 It was probably a couple of hundreds 144 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,080 of neo-Nazi figures from Russia 145 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,400 who settled down in Ukraine. 146 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:52,960 By far, the most prominent personality 147 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,040 is Sergei Korotkikh. 148 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,640 He helped to form the biggest Nazi platform 149 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:00,560 that ever existed in Russia, 150 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:02,880 known as NSO-Nord. 151 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:04,480 They became a murderous gang, 152 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,680 which killed many, many people, 153 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:08,040 primarily migrants. 154 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,920 PERPETRATOR VIDEO POSTED ONLINE 155 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,320 To which extent he was involved in those killings is hard to say, 156 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,440 but he was... 157 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:19,160 trained in the crack troops 158 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,640 of the Belarusian military intelligence. 159 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:23,360 He knows how to kill. 160 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,240 Korotkikh was let go, 161 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,440 and he went to Ukraine 162 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,760 and became the head of reconnaissance 163 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:35,880 in Azov Battalion. 164 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,400 He was famously granted Ukrainian citizenship 165 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,240 by President Poroshenko. 166 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,280 Neo-Nazis were also fighting on the Russian side, 167 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:52,240 including a man who leads the Russitsch mercenary army. 168 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,160 On the Russian side, the Russitsch unit 169 00:08:56,360 --> 00:09:00,080 - was pretty openly neo-Nazi. - Yes, Nazi. 170 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:01,840 Yes, Nazi. 171 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:03,760 They still promote 172 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,000 extreme violence and sadism, 173 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,920 and, in that sense, they remain neo-Nazi. 174 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:14,800 They call themselves nationalists, 175 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,200 but they are internationalists. 176 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,720 They want to spread their ideology 177 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:21,760 across many nations. 178 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,720 It doesn't matter whether you're Ukrainian or Russian, 179 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:26,240 it's all the same to them. 180 00:09:26,560 --> 00:09:30,160 It's a movement which strives to unite the entire white race 181 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,160 from North America to Australia via Europe. 182 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:39,680 In other places around Europe, 183 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,080 authorities also have to investigate soldiers. 184 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:44,560 Waffenkraft was an especially dangerous group 185 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:46,400 in France. 186 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,520 There was a moment of upheaval 187 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:51,280 in the Waffenkraft group 188 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,040 when Alexandre Gilet joined them. 189 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,120 He had entered the army in 2015. 190 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,080 He then left the army 191 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:01,480 and became the group's leader. 192 00:10:02,680 --> 00:10:05,200 Gauthier was another member of the group, 193 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,200 who was 18 years old at the time, 194 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,800 and his father was an air force lieutenant-colonel. 195 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,080 So each of them either had some sort of connection 196 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,920 or a fascination with the army or security forces. 197 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,520 During the weekend of 14 July 2018, 198 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,920 they got together in a forest outside of Tours, 199 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,600 where they practised shooting 200 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:31,520 for three days. 201 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,520 In the end, the authorities 202 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,120 were warned by one of the members 203 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,080 of the Waffenkraft group 204 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,040 that an attack was being planned 205 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,240 that was highly dangerous. 206 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,600 While the leader of the group was obtaining a lorry licence, 207 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:50,840 the police arrested all the members. 208 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,880 {\an5}He wanted to emulate Islamist terrorist attacks. 209 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,880 {\an5}He was also inspired by right-wing terrorists. 210 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:58,560 One of them was Brenton Tarrant, 211 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:00,880 who murdered 51 people 212 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,200 in New Zealand. 213 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,120 Gilet was put before a judge after the attack 214 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:08,160 by Brenton Tarrant, 215 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,000 and he said, "It could've been me". 216 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:12,200 The Islamist attack 217 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,040 on the Bataclan Club in Paris 218 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,360 in 2015 was another model 219 00:11:16,560 --> 00:11:17,880 for Alexandre Gilet. 220 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,000 Alexandre Gilet had told 221 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,160 one of the other members of his group 222 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,040 that he wanted to do worse than the Bataclan. 223 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:28,080 According to him, a successful attack was one 224 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:29,280 with over 50 deaths. 225 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,280 In his declaration of war 226 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,600 and during his hearing before the judge, he said 227 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,400 he was following what Breivik had called for. 228 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:40,640 In other words, 229 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:42,880 attacking those in power, which meant Jews. 230 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:44,720 Norwegian right-wing terrorist 231 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,440 Anders Breivik killed 77 people - 232 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,600 mostly youths - in 2011, 233 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,400 which Gilet lauded in his declaration of war. 234 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:55,960 The extreme-right ex-soldier 235 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,280 was ultimately sentenced to 18 years of prison. 236 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:04,720 In 2017, in Germany, 237 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,720 an officer of a scouting unit was arrested: 238 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:09,840 Franco Albrecht, who had been trained 239 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:11,360 at an elite army university 240 00:12:11,560 --> 00:12:14,280 for officers in France. 241 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,520 He was planning terrorist attacks in Germany. 242 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:18,440 I can definitely assure you that I am not 243 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:19,400 a right-wing extremist. 244 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,240 Franco Albrecht was scouting 245 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,040 the parking garage of a foundation 246 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:25,760 working for migrant rights. 247 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,720 He wrote down registration plates and obtained weapons. 248 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,800 A Federal Army officer has been leading a double life. 249 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:33,880 He had assumed the identity of a Syrian refugee, 250 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,160 hoarded weapons 251 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,800 and created a list with the names of high-ranking politicians. 252 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,280 The 33-year-old defendant 253 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,160 must now serve five-and-a-half years behind bars. 254 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:49,800 Franco Albrecht is not the only officer 255 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:51,640 in a European army 256 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,000 to be suspected of being a right-wing extremist. 257 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,920 BARCELONA, SPAIN 258 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,640 In Spain, there was an especially explosive case. 259 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,080 Within the Spanish army, 260 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,040 there was a movement 261 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,520 called Citizens in Uniform. 262 00:13:16,560 --> 00:13:20,240 They found this captain, Antonio Meroño Jiménez. 263 00:13:20,560 --> 00:13:24,560 He was instructor at the General Academy 264 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,800 for Air Force Officials in Madrid. 265 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,520 He was an admirer of Hitler. 266 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,920 He was carrying all the Nazi paraphernalia 267 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:37,720 in demonstrations. 268 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:41,720 He was in official parades 269 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,960 doing this sign, the SS. 270 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:50,840 They began to look at the social chats 271 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,360 and found out that he was given, 272 00:13:53,560 --> 00:13:57,080 as a birthday present by his comrades, 273 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,400 a real Iron Cross of the Wehrmacht. 274 00:14:03,560 --> 00:14:04,880 Citizens in Uniform, 275 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,320 they went into some member of parliament 276 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:10,760 and said, "Please show this 277 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,000 to the Minister of Defence". 278 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,680 More than 100 pages of evidence, 279 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:17,960 of photographs, of documents 280 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,880 and what did the Ministry of Defence do? 281 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:22,200 Nothing. 282 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,920 I gave my information to the Euro Parliament 283 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,920 and several members of parliament there 284 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,960 asked the main NATO commanding officer... 285 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:37,320 No answer. 286 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:39,720 Later, he was upgraded. 287 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,360 He got a very special position 288 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,720 in the main jet fighters base 289 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:47,080 in Spain... 290 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,080 where you have the top gun academy 291 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,040 for the NATO forces in that base. 292 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,240 He's chief intelligence officer. 293 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:58,840 He not only has access to all that... 294 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,080 He gives clearance to other people 295 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,720 to have access to all that secret NATO documents. 296 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,600 All of us are demanding the Spanish government 297 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:13,200 to take it seriously, 298 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,400 and they say they take it seriously. 299 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,040 But of course they are lying, 300 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:18,560 they are just scared. 301 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,040 They don't want to have any problems with the military. 302 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,320 The word is appeasement. 303 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,200 This passiveness had consequences. 304 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,880 What I found out were chats 305 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,000 with officers that were ranking officers 306 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,000 within the armed forces, who are Nazi, 307 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,280 and they were openly talking about 308 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:40,800 that they should go back into power. 309 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,200 They even discussed in plans 310 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,720 to bomb the Catalan parliament, 311 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:50,040 saying, "I really want to divert fighter jet 312 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:51,880 and bomb their parliament". 313 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:55,800 They even shared in that chats 314 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:57,880 a petition to Trump 315 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,760 when he was president of the United States, 316 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,280 asking the United States 317 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,440 to throw down the Spanish government. 318 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,640 Extreme-right soldiers, veterans and police officers... 319 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,280 {\an5}It is a particularly huge problem in the United States. 320 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:17,480 {\an5}The country has waged many wars in recent decades. 321 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,720 For years, sociologist Peter Simi 322 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,600 has researched the right-wing extremist scene. 323 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:24,880 SOCIOLOGIST 324 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,840 {\an5}One of the most effective way to study white supremacists 325 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,000 is to spend time with people in natural settings. 326 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,480 I eventually lived with a family in Southern California. 327 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,920 The husband was playing in a white supremacist band. 328 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:44,720 They had three young children 329 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,360 and I babysat their kids. 330 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:50,480 Probably about a year into the field work, 331 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:52,920 I showed up at my main contact's home, 332 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,320 and this stranger opened the door. 333 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,280 I remember Page being, from the get-go, 334 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,560 quite... friendly. 335 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,960 He explained to me how he got radicalised 336 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,680 during his time in the military. 337 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,920 At Fort Bragg, he met somebody who was already a neo-Nazi. 338 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,560 That person introduced him to white power music, 339 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:13,800 gave him literature, 340 00:17:14,120 --> 00:17:16,720 violence is ever kind of present. 341 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:20,840 What we do know is, with a culture like this 342 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,680 that promotes, encourages violence, there will be violence. 343 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:25,880 The complicated part is trying to figure out 344 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:30,000 which one is going to act on what the culture says you should do. 345 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:37,840 Page decided to leave California. 346 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,280 He moved elsewhere and ended up in Milwaukee, 347 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,520 where there is also a very large Sikh community. 348 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,200 My grandparents were ex-military 349 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,000 and then farmers. The day-to-day grind 350 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:58,280 of working the field, 351 00:17:58,600 --> 00:17:59,800 it's a very difficult life. 352 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,760 There was a lot of reasons to leave at that time. 353 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,120 SON OF A TERRORISM VICTIM 354 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,320 And I think about my parents, the bravery 355 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,080 that they must have to come over. 356 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:13,760 My father worked at a factory for a while. 357 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:18,040 My mother also worked for three dollars an hour, four an hour. 358 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:19,720 I watched them struggle. 359 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:22,240 You know, when they let, 360 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:26,560 I think the real number is 15, 16 million people into our country, 361 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,480 they're poisoning the blood of our country. That's what they've done. 362 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:32,680 Pardeep's parents 363 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,520 helped to create the Sikh community in Milwaukee. 364 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:44,120 At that time, we could just drop our kids off at the temple. 365 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:45,960 That particular morning, 366 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,200 I wanted just to get my daughter to Sunday school 367 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,920 and run some errands, and as soon as we got to the freeway, 368 00:18:52,120 --> 00:18:54,000 she's kind of, like, "Dad... 369 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,120 I forgot my notebook at the house". 370 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:57,560 I didn't want her to get in trouble, 371 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,080 so we did turn around, 372 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,680 and one of the most vivid memories that I have of that day 373 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,800 is this joyous six-year-old 374 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:07,880 who's got a smile, 375 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,640 she realises that she's a priority. 376 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:13,160 We get onto the freeway 377 00:19:13,360 --> 00:19:15,560 and we start to see those squad cars 378 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:16,720 driving by us. 379 00:19:19,360 --> 00:19:21,640 There is shooting in this... 380 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,720 OK, did anybody get hit, Sir? 381 00:19:25,360 --> 00:19:26,720 Right outside the temple, 382 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,720 that's when the police officer was barricading it off 383 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:31,920 and he lets us know that 384 00:19:32,120 --> 00:19:32,960 there's been a shooting. 385 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,760 A bald male with glasses may have shot someone. 386 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:41,480 Wade Page, armed with a 9-mm handgun, earbuds in, 387 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:43,840 walked into a Sikh temple 388 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:45,320 in Oak Creek, Wisconsin, 389 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:46,800 and opened fire. 390 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:49,240 Hello? 391 00:19:51,120 --> 00:19:54,600 And killed six individuals. 392 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:56,720 My dad, 393 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,640 he was able to fight off 394 00:19:59,960 --> 00:20:02,120 this white supremacist gunman with a butter knife, 395 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:03,520 and... 396 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,080 he unfortunately lost that battle. 397 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:10,440 When he exited the temple, 398 00:20:11,120 --> 00:20:13,400 Page was using the car as a shield. 399 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,440 You'd think the military training would come into play there. 400 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,360 Methodically shooting. 401 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,480 - Officer down. - The officer also wounded Page, 402 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:25,320 hit him in the stomach. 403 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,360 Page went down and then shot himself in the head. 404 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,080 The terrorist attack changed the community 405 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,640 and Pardeep Kaleka's family forever. 406 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:36,280 Ten years after the attack, 407 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,840 his daughter addressed the murderer, Wade Page. 408 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:43,280 Wade Michael Page, 409 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,600 1971 to 2012. 410 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:50,640 Army veteran, neo-Nazi, monster, 411 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,520 a ticking time bomb of rage. 412 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,080 From American patriot to American terrorist, 413 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,640 with trauma beyond their brain's boundaries, 414 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:01,600 fighting war after war, 415 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,280 this time, the racial holy war. 416 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:06,360 A pseudo-religion 417 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,160 for the "white cause" is the description for it. 418 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,120 Page, he said, "Look, things are upside-down 419 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:18,320 in the military. He started seeing that Blacks were getting promotions 420 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,480 over whites when they didn't deserve it. 421 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,000 What he told me was, if you don't go into the army 422 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,600 as a racist, you're sure to come out as one. 423 00:21:26,120 --> 00:21:28,440 We go back to the founding of the Ku Klux Klan 424 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,040 after the US Civil War, founded by... 425 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:32,800 former Confederate officers. 426 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,920 Every point in time in US history, 427 00:21:35,120 --> 00:21:36,160 if you look at the US military, 428 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,240 there's been the presence of white supremacists. 429 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,320 I wanted to be in the military my entire life. 430 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,240 It was the only thing I ever planned on doing. 431 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,960 I joined the army to kill people. 432 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,000 Joined the army to kill Iraqis, to kill Muslims. 433 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:58,280 I want to state that... 434 00:21:58,480 --> 00:21:59,680 Kris Goldsmith, 435 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:02,520 a veteran of the last Iraq war, almost joined 436 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,520 extremist groups after years 437 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,640 of disorientation. 438 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:08,960 But he turned his life around in time 439 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,440 and is now fighting on a different front. 440 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,320 I've chosen for... 441 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,800 this part of my life, my career is hunting Nazis. 442 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,360 Like, if you're filled with rage, that's a pretty good job, 443 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,880 fighting back against neo-Nazis, 444 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,360 for myself, for my family, for my friends, 445 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,280 for every other American. 446 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,240 It helps me 447 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,320 makes sense of... 448 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:36,600 the anger. 449 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,160 Chris Buckley, a veteran of the Afghanistan War, 450 00:22:43,360 --> 00:22:46,560 joined a Ku Klux Klan branch after his own service. 451 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,160 He managed to get out and now helps 452 00:22:49,360 --> 00:22:51,920 other extremists to leave the organisation. 453 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,520 I'll always be angry. 454 00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:59,200 Once you go through combat 455 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,840 and you experience the hell of war, 456 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:03,440 there's no forgetting it. 457 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,000 I know what it feels like to be in the darkness. 458 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,720 What it's like to have your demons wake you up in the night, 459 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,080 rattling the f*cking chains, you know? 460 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,120 Buckley suffered for a long time from an injury 461 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:17,920 that he got from his time in the army. 462 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,040 He consumed drugs as a result. 463 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:23,920 He is now clean 464 00:23:24,120 --> 00:23:26,200 and only smokes his own whiskey. 465 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,040 But he has come a very long way. 466 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,640 The doctor writes me a prescription 467 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,040 for 180 OxyContin, 80 mg, 468 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:37,720 with three refills a month. 469 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,200 I would make a pocket in my shirt 470 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,840 and pour out a couple of pills in the shirt and just eat them. 471 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:44,480 Eventually, 472 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,760 I realised that, if I crushed them, I could snort them. 473 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,280 You're in active addiction. 474 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,000 My kids are getting a little older, 475 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,320 can't take care of bills at home, 476 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:58,920 support my drug addiction. 477 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:00,960 You're just, you're drowning. 478 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,920 So a lot of people think "KKK". 479 00:24:06,120 --> 00:24:09,120 They think torches and burning crosses, right? 480 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,360 It's nothing like that, in the beginning. 481 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:13,880 Just like any other gang, 482 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:15,720 they're involved in the drug trade. 483 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,320 It was like, "Hey man, I know you're struggling. 484 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,480 Here's a box of clothes, a couple of bags of groceries". 485 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,000 But what it is, it's a recruitment technique. 486 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,560 So... I start to attend barbecues. 487 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,680 Now I start to hear this perverted version 488 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,880 of Christianity. 489 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,400 I start to buy into it, because I'm a junkie. 490 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,560 My mind doesn't work right. My heart's black as coal. 491 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,840 Buckley even took his son with him to Ku Klux Klan events. 492 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,800 Because of my experience with weapons and tacticalness, 493 00:24:51,120 --> 00:24:54,720 being able to train, I started out as what they call a night hawk, 494 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,640 which is the security section of the KKK. 495 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:00,720 I was really good at that. 496 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,400 I was living the lifestyle of violence, 497 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,200 sex, drugs, 498 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:12,840 like I was a rock star. 499 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,640 With the mindset of having been 500 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,200 deeply personally betrayed by the government, 501 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,920 I found myself with nothing to do. 502 00:25:29,120 --> 00:25:32,800 I spent a tonne of time on the Internet. 503 00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:36,000 Just before I deployed to Iraq, I remember being told that the order 504 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,120 had come down: "We're not looking for weapons of mass destruction". 505 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,960 The whole reason that I was there was based on a lie. 506 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,360 I went from the Iraq Wars, based on a lie, 507 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,040 to 9/11 was an inside job, 508 00:25:48,360 --> 00:25:52,440 like the algorithmic rabbit hole. 509 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,520 Well, I've been warning you about it for at least five years. 510 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,480 All terrorism that we've looked at has been government actions. 511 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,680 They're using provocateur Arabs and allowing them to do it. 512 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,480 The evidence is overwhelming. 513 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,000 Now, 514 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,360 I've become basically an anti-government extremist 515 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,080 and a conspiracy theorist. 516 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,680 Thankfully, I didn't have older Nazis 517 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,480 pushing me in a more harmful direction, 518 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,800 because with that anger that I carried, I... 519 00:26:24,120 --> 00:26:26,760 was in a state where I was easy to manipulate. 520 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,760 There's no shortage of people that are suffering. 521 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,400 There's no shortage of people that are angry. 522 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,960 When you can tie their suffering to your cause 523 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,080 and provide relief - 524 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:44,800 got him, hook, line and sinker. 525 00:26:45,120 --> 00:26:47,160 Find the need. 526 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,080 Find the injury. 527 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:50,840 Exploit it. 528 00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:52,160 Take care of it. 529 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:54,840 It's slowly indoctrinating. 530 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,280 It's all about where you're harvested, right? 531 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,080 I loved targeting veterans, because I could identify with them. 532 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,680 The probabilities of being able for a veteran recruiter 533 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,280 to bring in another veteran are 10 times higher than 534 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,440 somebody that's not a veteran bringing in another non-veteran. 535 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,360 I grew up in the global war on terror. 536 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,440 That was my whole upbringing. 537 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,840 I watched my dad go off to Iraq and Afghanistan. 538 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,080 I wanted to know, like, "Why are we there?" 539 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,480 Then he's like, "It's just a money pit". 540 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:36,600 Just a money pit. 541 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,160 And I thought, once I got there and I saw things, 542 00:27:40,360 --> 00:27:41,920 like, everything would make sense, 543 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,480 these wars we've been fighting for 20 years wouldn't be in vain, 544 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,840 and the lives we lost and the lives we took, it would all make sense. 545 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:49,240 And the more and more I saw, 546 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,200 the less and less everything made sense. 547 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,040 The only time I've incurred violence 548 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:56,920 is because of things that were existing 549 00:27:57,120 --> 00:27:58,840 within our own country that we never talk about, 550 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,280 like this wild hypocrisy 551 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:02,120 that I was living in. 552 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,280 I think there's plenty at home we need to take care of right now. 553 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,400 Like other countries, the United States also received 554 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,640 early warnings about extreme-right veterans 555 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,400 and soldiers. 556 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,800 In January of 2007, 557 00:28:21,120 --> 00:28:23,080 {\an5}we received a call from the Capitol Police, 558 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,360 {\an5}stating that there was a young senator 559 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,040 who was African-American, 560 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,600 and that he would soon be announcing his run for presidency. 561 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,040 We did not see any threats at the time. 562 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,680 When Barack Obama actually won 563 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,240 the Democratic nomination, 564 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,840 that's when the threats started coming in. 565 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,120 Barack Obama is our candidate 566 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,240 and he will be our president! 567 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:54,160 We started a huge research project, the Gathering Storm, 568 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,560 because it was a convergence 569 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,160 of a downturn in the economy, 570 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,960 the election of the first African-American president, 571 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,800 returning veterans to create this perfect storm. 572 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,320 Once Barack Obama won the 2008 election, 573 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,040 we have a brand new secretary 574 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:13,680 of the Department of Homeland Security, 575 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,400 Janet Napolitano. 576 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,360 Myself and the FBI briefed her on the assessment that I had written 577 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,400 with my team of analysts. 578 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,840 The team presented specific warnings 579 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:25,560 about veterans as potential terrorists. 580 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,880 The internal paper was leaked to the media. 581 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,400 During a news programme, 582 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,200 I overheard 583 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,720 that DHS had released this new report 584 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,880 warning of right-wing extremism. 585 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,560 Extremists recruiting US veterans, who take advantage 586 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:43,840 of their military training. 587 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,960 Veterans are trained to fight terrorism, 588 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,080 not to join terrorism. 589 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,080 Once the leak happened, all hell had broken loose. 590 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,040 To be frank with you, 591 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,480 {\an8}the topic of radicalisation and the United States military 592 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,080 {\an8}is completely radioactive. 593 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:08,160 {\an8}Part of the reason we've never had a solid response to it 594 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,040 is because people get very upset 595 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:11,960 very quickly. 596 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,200 Veterans groups are demanding an apology, 597 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:18,120 saying Americans aren't the enemy. Terrorists are the enemy. 598 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,320 I was very disappointed in how 599 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,000 the Department of Homeland Security caved into political pressure 600 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:25,000 within days. 601 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,120 They were issuing an apology 602 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:28,440 to veterans organisations. 603 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,040 They also disbanded my unit. 604 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:32,920 The group had explicitly warned 605 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,400 against radicalised veterans. 606 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,640 That these soldiers had formed an anti-government militia 607 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,600 and killed two people to keep it all secret. 608 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,440 A US soldier is accused of helping plan 609 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,000 a deadly ambush on his own army unit. 610 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,640 This threat continued to grow month after month, 611 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:51,960 year after year. 612 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:53,800 The body count starts going up. 613 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:56,560 Scott Payne infiltrated 614 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,520 the extreme right-wing group The Base 615 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,360 for the FBI, 616 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,440 which was being led by a former soldier. 617 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,840 They'd been looking at some targets who were anti-fascists. 618 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:09,800 One of the The Base's most dangerous members 619 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,240 was the inconspicuous Luke Lane. 620 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:14,520 He had the perfect cover, 621 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,720 because he looks like a normal person in society. 622 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,760 He was an IT specialist with a job. 623 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,080 He's got a girlfriend. 624 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,240 He said, "Bring your weapons and ammo". 625 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,760 I said, "Hey, what are we doing?" 626 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,280 He looked at me and he said, "We're gonna whack some people, 627 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:29,960 some antifa couple." 628 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,400 And you gotta understand how much research this guy had done. 629 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:34,960 Vaseline over your eyebrows, 630 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,120 facial hair, so nothing falls off. 631 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:38,680 He wanted me to come with him, 632 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,480 go down and kill the couple. 633 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,760 As we're driving out there, he says, "Hey man, if you don't mind, 634 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,480 I want to pop my cherry on this one. 635 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,440 I actually want to put a bullet in one of them's head". 636 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:47,760 I go... 637 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:49,480 "Why are you so haste?" 638 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,000 We don't know if there's any dogs, if there's any kids, 639 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:54,680 and without even missing a beat, 640 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,080 he said, "I don't have a problem killing commie kids". 641 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,080 He's like, "I'm just tired of waiting, 642 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,960 and man, I've been dreaming about this for two years". 643 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,040 He's been wanting to kill somebody for two years. 644 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:07,760 It's almost like a drug addict. 645 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,160 They're looking-- "I need the fix right now". 646 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:12,920 Scott informed his team, 647 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:14,920 and a trap was set. 648 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,560 I pick him up, we go to lunch and I acted 649 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,120 like my truck was having trouble. 650 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,520 I got out and the SWAT team came over the hill. 651 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,440 Everything went down good, no shots fired. 652 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,880 The FBI's investigation revealed 653 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,520 that The Base 654 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,480 was recruiting members around the world and had members 655 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,400 outside the US, even in Estonia. 656 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,240 One kid in... Europe 657 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,280 ended up being like the youngest 658 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,080 to ever be charged with domestic terrorism. 659 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,040 He was like 13 years old, but it was all for The Base stuff. 660 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,440 But the leader of the group, Roman Wolfe, 661 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,480 who had recruited Scott and other members, 662 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,040 still eluded the FBI. 663 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,200 American citizen, former army, 664 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:55,920 apparently speaks Russian, 665 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:56,720 and... 666 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,440 now all of a sudden, he resides in Russia 667 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,080 and he's still out there. 668 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,880 More and more neo-Nazis with contacts 669 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,560 in Russia are being trained on how to use weapons 670 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,120 and learning how to kill. 671 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,200 VIENNA, AUSTRIA 672 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,360 Especially in Ukraine. 673 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,320 Intelligence services in Europe are very concerned. 674 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,320 {\an5}Since February 2022, we've also had people 675 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,520 {\an5}from extreme-right circles here in Austria, 676 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,320 {\an5}who had fought in Ukraine. 677 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,560 Our security authorities see that as a problem, 678 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:30,800 because these people 679 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,960 are coming back with combat experience. 680 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,320 Nazis from Germany are also fighting in Ukraine. 681 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,160 The exact figure is unknown. 682 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,520 If you carry out terrorist attacks, 683 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,080 you can also ensure more victims 684 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:44,440 with a corresponding exercise. 685 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,240 Russian volunteers are also fighting for Ukraine 686 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,920 and are being led by a neo-Nazi. 687 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,320 Do you mind being described as a neo-Nazi? 688 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,160 I don't think it's an insult. 689 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:55,560 This war starts, 690 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,280 and all those bad neo-Nazis all of a sudden turn into what? 691 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,040 Patriots, freedom fighters. 692 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:02,840 So, did anything change about us? No, 693 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,160 everything changed about your perception. 694 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,040 Denis Kapustin is his original surname, 695 00:34:08,240 --> 00:34:09,600 he grew into, currently, 696 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,480 probably the most important far-right figure 697 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,080 of Russian origin in Ukraine. 698 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:16,640 He was raised in Germany, 699 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,280 where he emigrated when he was very young 700 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,360 and became the head of what is known 701 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,840 as the Russian Volunteer Corps. 702 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,040 The other aspect is that 703 00:34:27,240 --> 00:34:30,960 these people were promoting the idea of white terrorism. 704 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,720 Back in 2019, especially around the Christchurch attack, 705 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,040 platforms like Wotan Jugend in Kyiv, 706 00:34:39,720 --> 00:34:42,400 they ran Brenton Tarrant's manifesto. 707 00:34:42,720 --> 00:34:46,040 It's an 80-page document, which was translated into Russian, 708 00:34:46,240 --> 00:34:48,040 quite possibly before the attack happened. 709 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,840 They were publishing manifestos 710 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:53,520 of other white terrorists 711 00:34:53,720 --> 00:34:56,080 in the United States and, of course, of Breivik. 712 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,560 War veterans who glorify right-wing extremists 713 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,880 are obtaining a massive amount of modern weaponry, 714 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,920 creating a horrific scenario. 715 00:35:05,240 --> 00:35:07,760 On one occasion, the Russian volunteer corps 716 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,520 was boasting about 717 00:35:09,720 --> 00:35:12,160 new Belgian-made rifles, 718 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,440 that they received, NATO weapons. 719 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,240 Ultimately, this war 720 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:20,400 will end at some point, 721 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:22,840 and lots of highly-modern weapons 722 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:24,360 will suddenly be available. 723 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:26,840 Organised crime groups 724 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,160 of course have a very strong interest 725 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,200 in making those weapons available for sale 726 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,520 for terrorist organisations, 727 00:35:34,720 --> 00:35:36,440 so both for extreme right-wing terrorists 728 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,360 as well as for Islamist extremists. 729 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:42,960 Ultimately, these people, 730 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,960 they are like angels of apocalypse. 731 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,240 All they want is more war. 732 00:35:54,720 --> 00:35:56,760 Seeing how people are so easily killed, 733 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,200 how they kill one another, 734 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,280 the constant presence of death... 735 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,200 All of that changes many veterans 736 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:03,760 and makes them vulnerable. 737 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,560 It became my job to photo document 738 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,120 everything that my unit did. 739 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,200 Most days were boring and nothing happened. 740 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,040 But in May of 2005, 741 00:36:17,240 --> 00:36:21,120 we got a call to go respond to some bodies being found, 742 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,800 and we got there in time to see locals digging up 743 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,480 freshly murdered victims of torture. 744 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:37,040 It became my responsibility to take photographs, ostensibly, 745 00:36:37,240 --> 00:36:39,880 to find justice for these victims of murder. 746 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:46,400 At 19 years old, it wasn't something I was prepared for. 747 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,760 That mass grave, that smell, was inescapable, 748 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,920 like every minute of every day, I would smell it. 749 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,440 I was a... horizontal light combat engineer. 750 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:02,960 We... 751 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,040 breach obstacles, enemy obstacles. 752 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,720 And it was a day like any other day. 753 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,960 We get to a dried-up riverbed called a "wati", 754 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:12,960 very rocky, just unstable. 755 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,960 The guy leading the convoy called back and said, "Hey, 756 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,360 I want you guys to get out and tighten the binders down". 757 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,200 My comrade got out of the vehicle 758 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,400 and took the first round over his left eye. 759 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:30,360 One eye... 760 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,800 that didn't swell completely shut 761 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,480 from the impact of the trauma, 762 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,760 it slowly was looking around, 763 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:38,720 like the eye was moving, right? 764 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:40,240 You see the jaw tense. 765 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,000 He's trying to breathe, guys. You know what I mean? 766 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:50,760 I'm very much used to the outdoors - hunting, fishing. 767 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,400 I've seen what happens when something dies. 768 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,760 There's a lot of muscular reaction that... 769 00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,840 doesn't necessarily mean that the animal's alive. 770 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,440 It just means that its body was cut short really quick 771 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:06,520 and there's nothing you can do. 772 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:16,280 I was coming home from war and then training for war. 773 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,160 I would buy a plastic bottle of vodka, 774 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:20,600 super cheap. 775 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:22,360 My roommates would find me in the shower 776 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,280 under scalding hot water, 777 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,080 and it took me years of therapy 778 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,480 to figure out that what I was doing 779 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,520 was trying to burn that smell out of my body. 780 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,400 It's just a matter of time. 781 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,840 You'll either kill yourself or kill somebody else if you don't get help. 782 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,480 There's lot of anger, a lot of hatred that's bubbling up. 783 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,440 I would try to overdose 784 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,200 because I felt like it would be painless. 785 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,960 It would be easier than putting a gun to my head. 786 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,560 The night before what would've been my second deployment, 787 00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,640 I attempted suicide. 788 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,440 I found out that my contract with the military 789 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,520 was going to be involuntarily extended. 790 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,120 I didn't just attempt suicide 791 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:09,560 to end my life. 792 00:39:10,240 --> 00:39:12,880 I attempted suicide to give my life meaning. 793 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,520 The veteran doesn't benefit the country anymore. 794 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,280 So, that's why veteran suicide 795 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,240 is 22-plus a day. A day! 796 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,840 That's a school bus of people, 797 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:28,760 and we don't care. 798 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,720 The only fucking people that care if other veterans care 799 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:32,960 are extremists, 800 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,240 you know. "Hey dude, you're already on the fence. 801 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:36,800 You're going to kill yourself anyway. 802 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,400 Why not put some use into you for my own purpose? 803 00:39:39,720 --> 00:39:40,600 Go shoot up this school. 804 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,480 Go shoot up this mosque. 805 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:43,960 Go blow up this synagogue. 806 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,880 Take out a lot of that anger, and you'll still get suicide". 807 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:53,560 In 11 German federal states 808 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,920 on this Wednesday morning, more than 25 809 00:39:56,240 --> 00:39:58,920 suspected right-wing terrorists and "Reich citizens" were arrested 810 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,520 for plotting a coup against the German government. 811 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,920 ALLIANCE 90/THE GREENS MP 812 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,200 The plan was to storm this building, 813 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,320 to take people prisoner 814 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,520 and even kill some, if necessary. 815 00:40:13,720 --> 00:40:16,280 That will all now be handled before several courts. 816 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:19,840 Some major figures of the terrorist cell 817 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,880 were former head officials of the German army, 818 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,880 who also wanted to overthrow the federal government. 819 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,160 One of the suspected figures was a former high-ranking officer, 820 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,560 who spent many years leading missions abroad 821 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,000 for the German special forces unit. 822 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,160 He became radicalised during the pandemic. 823 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,240 The special forces unit should be sent into Berlin 824 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:45,680 to finally straighten things out. 825 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:47,720 Then you'll see what they can do. 826 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,920 Maximilian Eder always defended his unit. 827 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,240 At times, at least 40 right-wing extremists 828 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,680 fought in the special forces alone. 829 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,200 Two years on probation. 830 00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,160 A KSK soldier got off 831 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,320 with this rather lenient sentence 832 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:02,800 in Leipzig today. 833 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,040 The elite soldier was a troop instructor, 834 00:41:05,240 --> 00:41:07,080 who had hoarded two kilos of explosives, grenades 835 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,240 and several thousand rounds of ammunition 836 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,320 in his garden. 837 00:41:12,240 --> 00:41:14,040 The police found a bazooka 838 00:41:14,240 --> 00:41:16,280 and lots of Nazi memorabilia 839 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,080 in the soldier's hiding place, 840 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,520 including an SS songbook. 841 00:41:20,720 --> 00:41:23,640 But the special forces trainer claimed his innocence. 842 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,640 It's not just a bunch of blokes, and now girls, 843 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,800 who would only be right-wing extremists. 844 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,120 The KSK is a commando 845 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,160 with incredible merits 846 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:35,960 that are not known to the public. 847 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,560 The government keeps all of that silent. 848 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,960 The terrorist cell was willing to kill for its worldview, 849 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,080 because its members believed that the government 850 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,840 belonged to a satanic cult. 851 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,000 Maximilian Eder told the court 852 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,080 that covert special forces missions in foreign countries 853 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,400 and seeing so many dead bodies had traumatised him. 854 00:42:06,720 --> 00:42:09,360 In my Afghanistan mission three years ago, 855 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,320 a pointless 20-year mission, 856 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,120 soldiers were wasted 857 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,200 and abused. 858 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:22,720 The Office for the Protection of the Constitution 859 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,640 regularly produces a report on enemies 860 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,800 of the constitution of all stripes 861 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,040 in the ranks of security authorities. 862 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:32,680 You can easily see there are still problems 863 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,200 that won't just disappear overnight. 864 00:42:37,720 --> 00:42:40,320 The many extremists who have left the KSK 865 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,360 must now be permanently monitored by counter-terrorism. 866 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,440 One group of these terrorists 867 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,560 has already spied on Berlin's water supply. 868 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:56,760 Today begins the trial 869 00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,520 of the former soldier who is being accused 870 00:42:59,720 --> 00:43:01,200 of attempting to organise 871 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,440 attacks against Jewish institutions. 872 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,760 In 2022, Aurélien Chapeau 873 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,240 wanted to attack a synagogue. 874 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:10,400 Yet another soldier... 875 00:43:10,720 --> 00:43:12,360 In most of the cases 876 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,520 dealing with far-right extremism in France, 877 00:43:14,720 --> 00:43:17,000 the people involved are almost always people 878 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,960 who come from the armed forces, 879 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:21,960 either soldiers 880 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,000 or former police officers. 881 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:25,400 Just like in Germany, 882 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:29,160 soldiers in France also target their own country. 883 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:30,960 Conspiracy theorist Rémy Daillet 884 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,000 wanted their help 885 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:34,120 in 2021 886 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,840 to storm the presidential palace and parliament building. 887 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,760 The police are taking this case very seriously, 888 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:42,720 since Rémy Daillet managed to recruit 889 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:44,080 around 300 militants, 890 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,720 including soldiers and police officers. 891 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:51,640 In 2021, 892 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,280 veterans and extremists 893 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,160 marched on the US Capitol. 894 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:56,360 Cut their head off! 895 00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,680 If you voted for treason, 896 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,040 we're going to drag your ass through the streets! 897 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:02,760 They're not veterans. We are. 898 00:44:06,720 --> 00:44:09,760 It brought me back to being 16 years old 899 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,200 and seeing the towers fall in New York, 900 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,240 and there was nothing I could've done about it. 901 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,880 In the case of January 6th, I watched them in real time 902 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,520 from the perspective of the insurrectionists. 903 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,400 Goldsmith was drawn to conspiracy theorists 904 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,400 after his time at war, 905 00:44:28,720 --> 00:44:31,440 but eventually began to fight against extremists. 906 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,560 I had spent pretty much five years 907 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,680 in a dark hole after getting out of the military. 908 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:37,720 After that, I went to school. 909 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,440 I found community there, Student Veterans of America. 910 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,840 I practically lived in the halls of Congress, 911 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,640 meeting lawmakers to try to get them to help veterans. 912 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:52,680 A buddy of mine that I served with in the army 913 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,120 had seen photos of me, 914 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:55,320 and he called me up 915 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,560 and said, "Hey Goldie, I joined a neo-Nazi organisation. 916 00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,080 I want you to help me take them down". 917 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,080 Life, liberty, 918 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:02,400 victory! 919 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:03,720 I infiltrated 920 00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:05,920 a couple of extremist organisations, 921 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,240 neo-Nazi organisations, unlawful militias. 922 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:11,480 Within days, 923 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,440 I was in the 3% security force. 924 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:19,320 I was recording their audio 925 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,480 of them discussing storming the Georgia State Capitol 926 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,240 months before they were actively training 927 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:29,080 with live ammunition to "clear the Capitol". 928 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:31,920 I was already an FBI informant. 929 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:33,920 I was handing over intelligence packets. 930 00:45:34,240 --> 00:45:35,120 Those warnings 931 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,360 were completely ignored in an America 932 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,560 that was being governed by Donald Trump at the time. 933 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:42,640 ASSAULT ON THE CAPITOL 934 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,000 It wasn't just that so many veterans were involved in the violence 935 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,680 of January 6th. It's that they were involved in organising it. 936 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,200 It was veterans who were the ones 937 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,400 who made the violence happen. 938 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:56,680 What do you got to say? 939 00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:57,720 This is awesome! 940 00:45:58,040 --> 00:45:59,400 A federal judge on Thursday 941 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:03,320 sentenced Joseph Biggs to 17 years in prison. 942 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:05,360 The former army paratrooper 943 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,200 and leader of the far-right Proud Boys 944 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,680 is one of the most prominent defendants. 945 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,840 With the backing of figures like Steve Bannon, 946 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:14,240 a former navy officer, 947 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,040 guys like Mike Flynn, disgraced former general, 948 00:46:17,240 --> 00:46:18,480 whipping up the crowds. 949 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,360 We decide the election of the president of the USA. 950 00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,320 It is their veteran status 951 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,400 that lent credibility to their lies, 952 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:28,720 that led to people dying that day. 953 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:34,480 Behind that, were months and years 954 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,760 of training to radicalise these people 955 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:41,120 to literally be lined up like cannon fodder 956 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,360 to go make their revolution happen. 957 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,880 ASSAULT ON THE CAPITOL 6 JANUARY 2021 958 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,200 The idea of storming a government building 959 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:51,920 with help from extremist soldiers 960 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:53,600 and veterans in far-right circles 961 00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,840 also took root in fertile soil in South America. 962 00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:02,840 RIO DE JANEIRO, BRAZIL 963 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,840 This one could feel a little bit like déjà vu. 964 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,240 Supporters of a former president 965 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,760 storming the Capitol over accusations 966 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:13,760 of election fraud. 967 00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,280 ARMY POLICE 968 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,160 {\an5}UNIVERSITY HISTORY PROFESSOR 969 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,120 {\an5}There are some similarities 970 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:23,920 {\an5}between the storming of the two Capitols, 971 00:47:24,240 --> 00:47:27,280 such as the mobilisation efforts, the specific strategies, 972 00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,920 the discrediting of the electoral process, 973 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:31,560 conspiracy theories... 974 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:33,960 But it wasn't a simple copy here in Brazil. 975 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,880 Bolsonaro, a far-right former army captain, 976 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,280 has for years claimed the country's voting machines were faulty. 977 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,520 {\an5}POLITICAL SCIENTIST UNIVERSITY OF RIO DE JANEIRO 978 00:47:54,720 --> 00:47:57,040 Bolsonaro is from a military background. 979 00:47:57,240 --> 00:47:59,000 He was in the army 980 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,000 for almost two decades. 981 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:03,840 It's now a militarised country. 982 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,840 Brazil had more military than women in key positions. 983 00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,880 Bolsonaro got connected also to paramilitary groups, 984 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:16,520 weapons and ammunition 985 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,920 has been deviated from traditional barracks 986 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:20,240 to those groups. 987 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,800 Bolsonaro praising those militias, saying, 988 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:25,160 "They are the future, 989 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:26,720 because with a strong hand, 990 00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,320 those guys will be able to get rid of the bandits 991 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:30,520 on the street level". 992 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:32,840 The right-wing militias 993 00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:34,760 backed by Bolsonaro 994 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:36,960 did not only control a large swathe of Rio de Janeiro 995 00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,040 but also held a lot of power in the country. 996 00:48:40,240 --> 00:48:42,880 And they are quite vocal that force should be used 997 00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:44,160 to protect the family 998 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,320 and somehow weapons are the best answer. 999 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:49,120 Where you have a traditional army 1000 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,200 and a paramilitary group 1001 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,720 with the same far-right authoritarian thought, 1002 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,320 saying that we somehow have to save the country, 1003 00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,040 this is scary, and this is still around. 1004 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,160 Slowly, those far-right militia 1005 00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,040 infiltrating statehood bureaucracy, 1006 00:49:06,240 --> 00:49:08,120 they're electing congressmen. 1007 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,800 The state is slowly integrating those groups inside them. 1008 00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,160 It's slowly becoming the state. 1009 00:49:22,240 --> 00:49:24,240 Extremist far-right activists are trying 1010 00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,800 to undermine and control the state. 1011 00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,720 This is not only a danger in Brazil. 1012 00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:33,800 We looked at a leak of information, 1013 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,720 and we went through a membership list 1014 00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:38,880 of 38,000 subscribers, 1015 00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,920 people who paid money to the Oath Keepers. 1016 00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:43,840 The Oath Keepers is essentially 1017 00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:45,800 an anti-government organisation. 1018 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:47,560 Specifically, they recruit 1019 00:49:47,720 --> 00:49:50,160 from military and law enforcement. 1020 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,240 What is the Oath Keepers' vision 1021 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,920 for America? It includes 1022 00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:58,560 trying to to get their way through lies, through deceit... 1023 00:49:58,760 --> 00:49:59,400 FORMER SPOKESMAN FOR THE OATH KEEPERS 1024 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:00,760 through intimidation, 1025 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,400 and through the perpetration of violence. 1026 00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,480 A lot of people were, I think, surprised 1027 00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:13,160 at just how... 1028 00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,360 deep the message of the Oath Keepers 1029 00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,680 got into our institutions. 1030 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,120 There were over 1000 former law enforcement 1031 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:23,880 on the list that we looked at: 1032 00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:25,560 military professionals, 1033 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:27,440 a shocking number. 1034 00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:32,600 We found over 300 what we believe to be current law enforcement. 1035 00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,160 People in positions of power 1036 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,880 have an extra layer of responsibility 1037 00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:41,600 of not normalising that. 1038 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:43,760 {\an5}The founder of the Oath Keepers was sentenced 1039 00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:47,320 {\an5}to 18 years in prison for storming the Capitol. 1040 00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,120 {\an5}Trump pardoned him in 2025. 1041 00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:51,400 I have no doubt. 1042 00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:52,680 I have faith in what we're doing. 1043 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:54,440 What do you want to say to Trump right now? 1044 00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:55,400 Thank you. 1045 00:50:55,720 --> 00:50:57,880 In 2016, I declared, 1046 00:50:58,200 --> 00:50:59,720 "I am your voice". 1047 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,720 Today I add, "I am your warrior. I am your justice. 1048 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:08,000 And for those who have been wronged and betrayed, 1049 00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:09,440 I am your retribution. 1050 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:11,520 I am your retribution." 1051 00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:15,960 It has reached a critical point. 1052 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,760 The countermeasures that we need 1053 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,680 {\an5}are not going to be implemented, because... 1054 00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:25,280 {\an5}you have half of the country who chooses to reject the fact 1055 00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,000 that we have an issue in our country. 1056 00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,480 We pledge to you 1057 00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:31,600 that we will root out 1058 00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,280 the Communists, Marxists, fascists 1059 00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:35,960 and the radical-left thugs 1060 00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:37,600 that live like vermin 1061 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,600 within the confines of our country. 1062 00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,480 {\an5}When you have a leader like Donald Trump 1063 00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:47,880 {\an5}saying and encouraging, promoting and endorsing violence 1064 00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:49,240 the way he has, 1065 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,360 we are in a very dangerous situation. 1066 00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,240 When Trump was elected the first time, 1067 00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:56,680 far-right violence began to rise, 1068 00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,320 starting with the unrest in Charlottesville in 2017, 1069 00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:01,280 the attack in Pittsburgh 1070 00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,040 in 2018, 1071 00:52:03,240 --> 00:52:05,320 until the storming of the Capitol in 2021. 1072 00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,000 We've kind of reached this point of no return, 1073 00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,320 {\an5}because these cycles of right-wing extremism 1074 00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,160 {\an5}has now taken a new deadly turn. 1075 00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,920 We're not going to see any reprieve in this type of violence 1076 00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:19,880 anytime soon. 1077 00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:23,600 Donald Trump appointed Pete Hegseth 1078 00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,800 to the position of Defence Minister, a man 1079 00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,400 who has called Islam "the enemy of the West". 1080 00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:31,600 We haven't seen a president 1081 00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,160 have the kind of relationship that he has 1082 00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,240 with extremists of any kind for that matter. 1083 00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:38,840 This does keep me up at night, 1084 00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,800 and I feel deeply troubled 1085 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:43,920 by our inability 1086 00:52:44,240 --> 00:52:45,920 to counter this effectively. 1087 00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,120 Political violence right now? 1088 00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:58,400 Man, 1089 00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:00,880 like, it's just a matter of time. 1090 00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:01,920 It's a powder keg. 1091 00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:10,240 The right-wing online warriors are also still at the ready. 1092 00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,920 We're talking about a massive underground 1093 00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,440 that's mobilised on social media. 1094 00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,240 And that will act if their leader 1095 00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:25,640 tells them to. 1096 00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:27,240 The leader being Trump. 1097 00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:31,880 If 1% of those people start to justify violence, 1098 00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,160 we are dealing with a terrorism problem 1099 00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,880 on an enormous scale. 1100 00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:41,160 I think you're likely to see far more aggressive efforts 1101 00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,920 to cleanse this city 1102 00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:47,600 of the people who have stood against his agenda. 1103 00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:53,360 Their goal is to burn the whole thing down 1104 00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:54,240 and rebuild 1105 00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:58,240 a fascist Reich in the aftermath. 1106 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:05,560 I don't want people to feel like 1107 00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:08,280 it's got to take a civil war to solve the problem. 1108 00:54:09,720 --> 00:54:11,160 We're not there yet. 1109 00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:13,360 But if we don't fight back, 1110 00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:15,280 we lose. 1111 00:54:48,240 --> 00:54:51,960 Giuseppe Ilisco Subtitles by TransPerfect Media 1112 00:54:52,305 --> 00:55:52,710 Watch Online Movies and Series for FREE www.osdb.link/lm